Technically speaking, NO, there isn't a way to be sure a woman is a virgin. A missing hymen might be missing since birth or might have been thorn in a very innocent way: jumping, horse riding, ballet, using tampons, fingering herself. At 16 or at 6 or before.
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A gyno couldn't know it, unless he examined her right after it happened, so how could a guy know it? She's the only one who knows.
Indeed, a hymen can be faked: the blood, by choosing a day at the beginning or the end of her period, the pain is as easy to fake as an orgasm:Enjoy Meg Ryan at Katz Delicatessen in 'When Harry met Sally", it's a cult scene in American movie history.
Being tight is also possible to fake -or not: some girls are just born wide. A dry vagina will feel tight of course.
If she doesn't want you to know it , you'll never know. But is it that important? I don't think so.
Is it important to know if she had vaginal sex? She told you she had oral sex. That should be enough: it's her past and everyone is entitled to his past.
"If she lied about that she can lie about anything." Or not: she can have lied just about that, only about that, for some stupid reason, because at that time she said it, she maybe thought it was the best thing to say and afterward it was to difficult for her to go back. Or she may speak the truth
Forget it, stop torturing yourself with it.
I think my wife was a virgin when I met her. I believe that because she told me so. She had had some boyfriends she made out with. I probably knew them. I never asked names or details. She doesn't talk about it. I'm OK with that: it's her past, she's entitled to have a past. If she wasn't a virgin, if she lied about that, she's still the same, the one I love. That's enough for me.
Believe your girl.1 0 0 0If you're discussing this with friends you're on a bad road, man. Face it: are you looking for an excuse to dump her? Then do it, it will be more honest.
On a completely diferent route. Were you wearing any protection?. Sometimes, People (men and women) use lines like " I am clean" or "you are the first "or "i am virgin" if they want to convince you to go ahead without a protection (may be it was that moment when its too difificult to stop and arrange for a condom)-:) lol...idk.
It may be just a white lie to convience you that you have nothing to worry about and you are safe. I am sorry to say that the way you are getting paranoid about it seems like your girlfriend know how you behave in small and petty things.0 0 0 0
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#1. lots Of people have relationships where they don't have intercourse but they have oral or fingering etc. Its not that hard to believe. #2. Plus you say why would she just give it up but you said you've known her for ten years so its not exactly giving it up. If I like a guy I like him dating or not- It doesn't just start once things are recognized by both parties officially or w/e she may have felt like she knew you long enough to trust u- that too is not hard to believe. #3 The 3rd not that hard to believe thing, is reading about virgins being deflowered. If you've never done something- & I speak for myself here as well - it becomes very fascinating. I've read like probably hundreds of stories and no guys stuff has ever ben even remotely close to entering me.. yet I read & continue to...
You don't want to offend her by asking her point blank, but you do not mind disrespecting her by assuming she's a liar. You gotta set your sh*t straight. Either it bothers you enough to talk to her- or you let it go. Its irrational to expect a better answer from us* than she can give you, when she is alive and well and you can talk to her about it in the flesh. Or to expect you'll be at peace from a few agreed or disagreed, comments on this site. Ask her or trust her. End of story.
You're right- you've got a daughter , so for her sake don't be a hypocrite :)
Don't start off with suspicion. You thinking she is lying and not talking to her, is like her lying to you about w/e. Stop the game now- before you get used to it.
Good luck :)1 2 0 0it may very well be possible that indeed she was a virgin. Take into consideration how long you two have known each other... 10 years... for her that may have been a sign that she could trust you if you'd been in her life for that long. And the whole bleeding when you loose your virginity... yeah.. isn't always true. It is far too easy for a woman to accidentally pop her own hymen so that doesn't mean anything. heck a tampon can do it. But that is besides the point. The fact is that she told you she was a virgin before hand. That's an honest step. She could have told you after then it would be manipulative. Trust her judgement. it takes balls to admit to a man especially in your late 20s that you're a virgin. and what woman really wants to admit that when there are a lot of men who won't touch virgins with a 10' pole? You can't build a relationship with her if you're automatically assuming she's lying. Give her the benefit of the doubt and be happy.
0 0 0 0lol OK if she bled after having sex then she was a vigin. DOnt look to far into it bud. I don't think that she would start her period at that very moment, I know when I'm on my time of the month I don't even think about sex. So why would she give it to you that night. I think you are picking whatever you have good apart because you are scared that something might actually work out. I was a virgin till I was 17 and I wanted to save it until I was married but then I started dating this guy that I fell for, he did not rush anything, did not pressure me or anything, it just felt right at that moment. It was my decision and I gave it up to him. Be thankful for it, and the truth will come out if she was lying by chance but I dought it. Maybe she was one of those girls that didn't get pretty until after high school. If I were in your shoes I would play it by hear, and just have fun. Let go a little
0 0 0 0doubt* and its 'play it by ear' im OCD when it comes to grammer.
grammar* sorry,i couldn't help it XD
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20 8I don't know if this helps or not, but here goes.
I was 30 when I lost my virginity. But he was the first guy I ever even dated ( first kiss & everything).
Things went kind of fast, but we knew each other for years before hand, he pursued me for three years and asked me to be his girlfriend on our first date.
The moment I said yes to that, I was committed in my own mind.
Perhaps she felt a commitment to you before you too were an official couple. Maybe things did feel right to her or maybe she kind of f carried away at the time.
People change as they get older, so she may veiw relationships differently now then she did in 2005 when she was dating those other guys.
It sounds like this is really bothering you and if so - it will effect your relationship. You need to talk to her and clear the air.
Just be honest and dirrect without being confrontational.
Best of luck0 0 0 0lol dam, 30 years old sh*t how did you wait that long
I guss I was also just wise enough to know there are more importaant things in life then sex.. I mean sex is nice, but it's not everything. :)
I don't think she actually lied about it. I went 6 years without having sex agian and I didn't bleed from the sex, so she wasn't lying about it. Because you only bleed when you are a virgin. She told you she was a virgin because she trusted that you being her first that she would be safe and that even though it hurt a little or a lot. I think most woman tell the person that they want to be with that she hadn't had sex ever. Why would she be upfront about everything but lying about being a virgin. I was raped I told the boyfriend up front because I may have a had a flashback or something to set me off on that night. I honestly think she was being up front about it. Best of luck to you.
0 0 0 0She very well could have been. My wife was V when we met, and gave it up after 3 weeks. It was just the right time, she was ready, it felt right, we really hit it off...call it what you want, but it worked. That was 12 years ago, been married for 6 and have 2 wonderful boys. The only over V I've been with was the same way, she was just ready, I was the right guy, whatever. It happens, don't read too much into the "Why me, why so fast" thing or you could ruin a good thing.
1 0 0 0I think you might be a little paranoid, to be honest. College is the place for casual flings. All the way or not. She's getting older and has likely moved passed that part of her life. Sometimes things just feel right, even if you're not sure why. I think she might be telling you the truth, of course I don't know her. Sometimes things don't have a rhyme or reason.
0 1 0 0I'm not saying that college is not the place for casual flings. Infact, I would have preferred that she had not been a virgin. The issue is not about whether she was a virgin or not. It is about whether she fibbed for some reason. I know the guy she did casual oral with and he was the type in college to party with easy girls. He had a huge reputation for that. Again, I don't care if she messed around. I just want to know she is being honest.
Part of it is due to my situation. I'm a single dad due to a woman's inability to be truthful. No, I don't have baggage. But I'm not foolish either. I guess what I'm asking is if she did make it up, why bother? Virgins rarely accept a guy 'in' in under a month. So part of it is I just don't see what is so special about me.
I wasn't addressing the issue "if she was a virgin or not" I'm saying I think you're being paranoid about her lying. No, I don't think she's lying.
Some women think that after going so long without sex can make you like a born again virgin. I know in my case the first person I went with was so horrible and such a jerk that I don't really count him as the person I lost it to. So when my boyfriend that I wanted to lose it to asked I told him I was and I bled too becaue it had been so long anyways.
0 0 0 0How long did you waited to have sex again? How many times did you did it before? I will really appreciate if you reply, pls? Is kind of what I am going through right now. Thanks!
You seem like someone who compares everyone and everything to what they are accustomed to. Why does she have to be like everyone else? Maybe she is telling you the truth and maybe she isn't who knows. Only you will know in time that is, because time always reveals the truth. Yes there are a lot of psychos running around lying and doing all type of stuff but at the end of the day it shouldn't matter to you unless you love her. If you do love her you will find all of the answers to your questions sooner than later. You cannot cookie cut and expect everyone to be like everyone else. Maybe she really connected to you and likes you, so that is why she did "it so soon". If the truth be told if she was being dishonest why would she share her oral experiences with you? Oh hell I don't know, like I said...If she is important to you and you Love her...I said Love not like or infatuation! Then in time you will get the answers to the above question..>CiaO
Vonda G. Nelson1 0 0 0I don't think she would have any reason to lie. Why would she say that if you were already about to enter as you say. You already wanted her so she didn't need to attract you even more. When you add that to the blood you say you saw it all adds up to her being a virgin. She probably really liked you at that time and just decided she couldn't stand waiting any longer.
0 1 0 0Well, that is another thing I should mention. She shared a collection of erotic stories that she has collected and almost all of them deal with a virgin being deflowered fo the first time. So it crosses my mind that maybe she has a fetish. I mean, she could have been starting her period, you know?
Maybe she liked erotic stories about women losing their virginity because she always fantasized about what it would be like to lose her own virginity. If she has always been truthful about other things there is no reason to believe she is lying about this.
And again, it does not matter if she was a virgin or not. I just want to know that she is comfortable enough to be truthful with me. I just feel in my gut that she is holding something back due to shame, regret, or whatever.
there is a chance that she had decided it was time to move to the next level. with some women it does not matter about the man (ok so sorry if I hurt feelings) it is a personal decision with ourselves that we (me myself and I) are ready for the next step. I did this but trust me I wish I had choosen a better guy. I am also a private person so I only told 2 other people. This is partly because this was a decision with myself not an "I'm so in love I want to share this oh so important thind with him" moment. (again please don't take offence). Do you have another reason to think she is lying? If the truth of her virginity weren't in question would you still question her honesty? I hope I have helped I just wanted to show you another point of view.
1 0 0 0That's the dang truth! It really doesn't matter the guy! She could have decided that she was ready to lose her V card before she even started going on dates with you!
Sounds very much like you are making a mountain out of a mole hill here.
1 0 0 0Even though you have only just started dating technically you aren't actually really getting to know each other because you have known each other for 10 years you guys are just moving into the dating whelm. Offcourse all the initial dating stuff like first times are going to happen faster . Ultimately she already has trust in you so even though she is a virgin(to intercourse) she already trusted you and so she didn't really have to wait. I don't think she lied I think she probably would have been a little hung up about it otherwise she would have told you as soon as you started dating not just before sex like that.
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Beeing a virgin amon thousand of non virgins in your enviremont is sometimes hard because it gives you the feeling your like some kind of a weirdo. You already have a kid and have had relationsships so she knows you obviously aren't a virgin anymore. waiting that long for the right guy is hard because you don't wanna make a bad decision. And if she gives it to you, she decided that you were the one because else she wouldn't do it with you trust me. (im a virgin to)
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She kind of is a whore and knows that your not one and wanted to let you know that she is a dime, untouched, like a virgin. because like I said I'm a virgin and would never put a man penis is my mouth is he isn't my borfriend. A real virgin doesn't do things like that. who does that; I will suck a random but will not have sex? wtf0 0 0 0if you're wondering... ask her about it. I don't think this is something that should be avoided
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0 1 0 0I think he meant he has kid. maybe. I don't know how you find out without p*ssing her off bro.
Friend answered without logging into his account. LOL I'm the one with the kid.
Why should she lie to you about that? I don't quite get it.
As I see it, she's quite honest about everything telling you about her "sex" life and you turn it against her, because you can't imagine her to have stayed a virgin all those years.
Just take her word for it...again why shouldn't you?1 0 0 0why can't you just believe her? why do you have to think she lied?
0 0 0 0Because of her wild oral sexual encounters with other people
but so what? maybe she was just comfortable with oral.
Maybe she just decided not to wait anymore. You could have broken her hymen who knows, you're gonna have to take her word. Some guys do like making love to virgins for some reason, if she wasn't and actual virgin maybe she had been celibet(sp?) for the past few years?
0 0 0 0Like BreathMe said, you are freaking out right now. That is pretty wimpy and your just ruining anything potential by worrying about IF she maybe lied to you. Even if she slept with someone before, who f***ing cares? What are you some uptight prude or something? Seems like she has to lie to you because your so godamn judgmental about things.
1 0 1 1she was a virgin. she told you right before. you couldve stopped if it freaked you out. because you kind of seem like you're freaking out. she felt it was right because you've known each other for 10 years. despite if you were only dating 10 days. she clearly has always had feelings for you then. you are definately putting way too much thought into it. dont. just enjoy what you have for the time being. if you're lucky it could go somewhere. and "keep in mind", she was honest.
0 0 0 0Seems she's overtly self conscious. In my experience girls past 22 who preach virginity fall into one of the following categories:
1. She comes from a strict household and doesn't want any guy to think she's anything short of wholesome
2. She still thinks guys think it's sexy when a girl is a virgin and hasn't been with anyone else
3. She's a former party girl who for one reason or another wants to change that by recreating herself
4. She wants to start fresh with a guy so she doesn't feel cheap
or magic number 5: She doesn't want you to ask about her past sexual relationships!0 0 0 0Or she is really a virgin.
Well I thought that's covered in #1.
If she did, its probably because she's embarrassed about it. She's afraid that you would judge her negatively.
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