myTake on Pap Smears (Possibly TMI for men, you have been warned)

My take on Pap Smears (Possibly TMI for men, you have been warned)

Many women believe that Pap Smears are an essential part of womanhood and that their vaginal health DEPENDS on the Gynecologist.

This is most definitely, not the case.

I'm sure that every woman is afraid/terrified/embarassed by getting this procedure done every so often, which is obvious, because seriously, what isn't absolutely HORRIFYING about having cold utensils stuck up your vajayjay by a man you don't know to test if you have possible diseases? So I did my own research on whether or not this is actually necessary.

To get to the point, let's start with the first and possibly most important reason NOT to get a Pap Smear;

Pap Smears have a 67% innacuracy rate.

It's true. The majority of Pap Smears give back INCORRECT results. Isn't that what we go through this for, to know for sure that we're healthy?

Let's take a look at the second reason, NOT to get a Pap Smear.

Pap Smears can actually HARM you in so many ways, such as:

Cervical Stenosis which can lead to:

- Endometriosis
- Infertility
- Hematometra
- Pyometra
- Menstrual dysfunction such as no periods (amenorrhea)
- Painful periods (dysmenorrhea)
- Haemorrhage from the cervix
- Cervical incompetence
- Difficulties during labour
- Miscarriages
- High risk pregnancy
- Premature babies
- C-sections plus
- Psychological issues as well as
- Loss of sexual sensitivity

Does that not make you feel a little unneasy? I know it certainly doesn't make me feel good. Why are we risking all of this for a test that is innacurate 67% of the time?

To make matters worse, we have been convinced by docters that if we don't get this test we are at the highest risk of cervical cancer.

Is it just me, or does that seem a little illogical? Like really, either we are at high risk or not, whether or not we get a Pap Smear does not change that fact (except prossibly negatively).

Cervical Cancer risk factors include:

- Human papilloma virus (HPV) infection: This is the most important risk factor for cervical cancer
- Smoking
- Weak immune system: From HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) infection or medicines
- Taking birth control pills
- Chlamydia infection
- Having 3 or more full-term pregnancies
- Giving birth before age 17
- Your mother taking the drug DES (diethylstilbestrol) while she was pregnant with you
- Having a mother or sister who had cervical cancer
- Being overweight or obese increases the risk of one kind of cervical cancer (adenocarcinoma)

So, basically, if you haven't slept with untrusted men (or any men at all), haven't taken birth control pills, or aren't obese, the chances of you getting cervical cancer are pretty slim to none. Actually, it's next to impossible.

"The virus that causes cervical cancer is spread through sexual contact. The best way to avoid getting a sexually transmitted infection is to not have sex. If you do have sex, practice safer sex, such as using condoms and limiting the number of sex partners you have."

So why are women who only have had one trusted partner or no partners at all getting Pap Smears? I guess an important part of avoiding cervical cancer is to just not be a sl*t. (Pardon my langauge).

Here we have a piece from cancer.org on HPV:

"HPV is very common. As we have said, most people who have had sex have had HPV. Many young women (younger than 30) will have HPV. These infections
are more likely to go away in younger women. These HPVs do not need to be detected because they will not cause any harm. If a young woman is tested and found to have HPV, then she’s likely to have more tests and more appointments, which could cause her to be anxious and worry. Also, she will have tests for an HPV that would not have caused her any problems, and these tests could cause side effects that she would not want."

May I just say that stress is the most common indirect cause of cancer? Think about it, how much stress are you feeling the hours leading up to your pap smear and the anxiousness you feel waiting for your, most likely, innacurate results? Stress causes a person to do things such as smoke, overeat, and drink exceedingly large amounts of alcohol, which all contribute to a higher risk of cancer.

"Psychological stress describes what people feel when they are under mental, physical, or emotional pressure. Although it is normal to experience some psychological stress from time to time, people who experience high levels of psychological stress or who experience it repeatedly over a long period of time may develop health problems (mental and/or physical).

Stress can be caused both by daily responsibilities and routine events, as well as by more unusual events, such as a trauma or illness in oneself or a close family member. When people feel that they are unable to manage or control changes caused by cancer or normal life activities, they are in distress. Distress has become increasingly recognized as a factor that can reduce the quality of life of cancer patients. There is even some evidence that extreme distress is associated with poorer clinical outcomes. Clinical guidelines are available to help doctors and nurses assess levels of distress and help patients manage it."

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/coping/feelings/stress-fact-sheet

Here above is more information on how stress can effect a persons health.

Now obviously, if you have had numorous sexual partners, have been an avid smoker, gave birth before 17, or your mother took DES while pregnant with you, then you have perfect reason to be tested with a pap smear. But most of the time, these examples are not the case.

If you don't feel that these apply to you, then you definitely do not need a pap smear.

A lot of women will get HPV in their life but almost none of them will get cervical cancer. By taking the Pap Smear you are putting yourself in more danger than you were in before taking it, just for different reasons.

I'd really appreciate other womens opinions on this because it has been torturing me for years.

Docters convince us of needing so many things we truly don't need, so isn't it obvious this could be one?

Sources:

https://www.choosingwisely.org/patient-resources/pap-tests/

https://womenagainststirrups.proboards.com/thread/70/harmful-consequences-pap-smears (read this)

https://www.webmd.com/cancer/cervical-cancer/cervical-cancer-topic-overview?page=2

https://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/content/@editorial/documents/document/acspc-043803.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervical_cancer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pap_test

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  • I'm a medical student: so let's just clear some facts up shall we. Firstly, pap smears test for the presence of abnormal cells in the uterus. By 'abnormal', I mean cells that are progressing to become cancerous tissue, but may not yet be cancer. If caught at an early stage, this is easily treatable, but if you don't catch it then within a few years it becomes cancer. HPV accounts for about 90% of cervical cancers, and also significantly contributes to vulvar, anal and penile cancers. Approximately 70% of people will contract HPV before the age of 50. The problem is that after the initial infection, there aren't any symptoms, but there is no cure. Once you have HPV, because the virus replicates within cells, there is a significantly increased risk that at some point those cells will begin to become 'abnormal', which is why you need to get them regularly to make sure this hasn't happened. Another thing to consider is that when you say 67% are false, that's not right either. When we talk about preventative medicine we use the terms 'sensitivity' and 'specificity'. Basically, it's better to get a false positive then a false negative. Pap screens are very good for this. You might get a false positive, but further testing will clear you. You're unlikely to get a false negative, which means if you have abnormal cells, they will be caught and cancer can be prevented. As for the vaccine, whilst it's fantastic and everyone should get it there's one thing everyone should know. There are 120 strains of HPV, about 40 of them significantly increase the risk of cancer. Yet in any vaccine, you're only getting covered for about 4, depending on the country. So it doesn't completely cover you, and if you have sex overseas you're even more likely to contract HPV. So yes, it's extremely uncomfortable, it's extremely inconvenient, and it's extremely embarrassing to get a pap smear. But in my opinion, it's better then getting cancer and having to have a complete hysterectomy or dying a slow and painful death.

    • I love you so much right now.

    • but the pap doesn't prevent the cancer, or stop it from developing... so if there's no cure then what point is there? you get radiation or scraping every six months right? so either way nothing's being cured or fixed. and I'm sure the treatment has side- effects.

    • No the pap smear doesn't prevent cancer, but if abnormal cells are detected early they can be removed (which does then prevent the cancer from developing) and if it's caught at an early stage in the cancer than the treatment is far more likely to actually cure the cancer. All treatment has side effects, but this form of treatment (the type you can have if it's caught early) has much less severe side effects. For example, less likely for the cancer to spread, less likely to need a hysterectomy, more likely to put in place mechanisms that will allow for pregnancy down the tract. Without the pap smear it is often too late to treat these cancers affectively by the time the cancer is caught. As my teachers always say - in many types of cancers by the time you get symptoms it's already too late. As for radiation and scraping every six months, it depends on the level of development of the cancer and the type of strain. Often, a scraping once or every few years is sufficient.

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  • yea and no more prostate exams too!!! screw doctors and their lies, they just wanna feel our holes

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  • Slut shaming isn't cool.

  • There was a good piece written on this by a British GP, who refuses to get smear tests herself. www.independent.co.uk/.../...-a-smear-7577967.html

    • Thanks!

  • My stupid doctor won't fill my birth control prescription unless I get a pap smear every year. :( It's literally the only reason I get one, lol.

    • what are those? never heard of pap smears before

    • A pap smear is when your doctor opens up your vagina with a plastic speculum and then swabs your cervix to test for... something. I'm not exactly sure what they're looking for, but they refer to it as a "cervical cancer screening." So I guess they're testing for cancer? I don't know.

  • As lon as we take care of our bodies, we don't need tons of check ups, that should ne common knowledge :)

    But sadly, you are right, hundreds of people are pressured to do things against their will, which, most of the time, are unnecessary.

    Ladies, let's live healthy lives and be happy

  • I didn't even know that such thing exists o_o

    This was very informative and eloquently written. You wrote it like a mature lady :)

    • Thank you very much :)

  • Good Take :) I just cringe at the thought of a pap smear :\

    • Thanks!, yeah me too xP lol

    • No problem. Lol I'd rather take an injection instead

  • Fabulous take. I've only had one pap smear done and it was incredibly painful. Thanks to this take I don't have to feel guilty about not doing them! ;)

    • I know right. I already have endometriosis as well.

    • They don't hurt as much after you have a baby

  • Pap smears aren't painful.
    And I'd rather have my gyn detect possible cancer cells before I find out the hard way.

  • Exercising and not hooking up is such a great idea.

  • Nice article, I have heard HPV is hard to detect on men or that it can even go undetected for years. How come?
    I would like to see more articles on this, sexual health.

  • I was cringing at the thought that I will have to get one some day but now reading this I think I'll pass on doing it.

  • you're awesome for being only 16 and writing about this. I only found out about all of this because my mom listened to a radio show!

    • Aw thanks so much! :D That was lucky! I found out because my mom tried to make me go for one, which is exceptionally weird considering my age and that I'm not sexually active lol

  • What gets me is that all girls in the uk are given hpv virus for free but boys are not. Is this not sexist?

    • Did you know that that has caused hundreds of women to go infertile?

  • There is a number of relevant research on this topic now. The NY Times has a series of articles as well.
    I am curious as to posts on this topic as my significant other had this test recently and I am not sure if this frequent test is required.

  • So happy I'm a guy right now

  • I don't like the wiki's used as a source but you did a great job putting this information together. What a lot of people fail to see is that a lot of medical test are accurate but have a significant amount of error in them. That is the best way I can describe it without getting all scientific. A lot of the issues with cancer nowadays can be linked to additives in food. Very good job though :)

  • we got a mandatory shot in grade 7 to prevent it too.

  • Honestly you are 16 you don't know it. My girlfriend has cervical cancer and her past sex life is partly to blame. Unprotected sex with several guys. This is not always the case

    • then how are you two having sex, since she's your gf?

    • They probably don't

    • ouch dude...

  • WHAT th is pap smears?

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