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The doctor (Dr. Money) who created this idea that we "pick our gender" was a fraud.
In the 1960's he had a boy regendered as a girl (completely *all genitals removed) and he was raised as a girl never knowing that he was actually a boy.
He was forced to believe all the typical female girl ideas. Playing with dolls, not being agressive, etc.
But no matter how much they tried to force the gender, "she" would always show boy traits and want to play with trucks and "boy" based toys. "She" was more agressive. Etc.
Eventually the child became so agressive and depressed because he was being told he was a female and he didn't feel like he should. The parents finally broke down and told the child that they were born a male and turned into a female.
He instantly changed back to a boy and got a medically created penis. He finally felt normal and started to live a somewhat normal life. Except for the torment of what had been done to him which lead him into drugs. He eventually killed himself.
Gender is NOT a social construct!
People who claim this is a scientificly proven truth are basing their stance on THIS doctors corrupt papers.
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11 30I can agree with sentiment I was born male but even as youngster pre school I always never fitted in to the male norm I still to this day feel I should have been born female. All my ways of looking at life are towards that gender. I describe myself as transgender but really are non binary , hate being male but cannot be female. At times life is tough tried suicide a few times couple of times but someone stopped me from dieing...
So the part " I always never fitted in to the male norm" seems ok. A lot of people don't fit in with a lot of norms, at first glance of course. But the part "I feel I should have been born female" seems to be where you went wrong. Adding the part "hate being male but cannot be female", sort of implies you have a problem with societies' nosey disapprovals (who doesn't? ) and hate to face it so bad, that instead of getting around it, you are trying to change yourself or more accurately, your gender, in order to fit in. And naturally, you can't force yourself into that, so you are getting yourself confused. This kind of confusion usually leads to depression. I think maybe a traumatic social incident lead you to hate being a male. It's just a theory of course. I feel sad that you should have to go through probably unnecessary pain. So, could you please explain more about how you did not fit into the male norm?
There are lots of men out there who are not necessarily interested in aggressive "male" activities, if that's what you mean. For example, we have tons of male artists in painting, music, beauticians, with very sensitive souls, male writers, dancers, clothing designers, cosmetic surgeons, nurses, teachers, cooks, and even OBGYNs. Some of the best ones too. And some of them are EXTREMELY famous and super rich and you probably hear their names everyday. Anyway, before females entered the workplace, who was doing that sort of stuff in the first place?
@BeautifulMind59 It's a little complicated what you may find easy to sort looking on but I get physically upset at not being female it's like not being whole. Majority of my friends are female I enjoy the company I find it relaxing and enjoyable to be considered as a equal maybe because I don't hit on them. Even down to my second wife came out with a remark being married to you makes me feel like a lesbian she thought she was being funny I thought it was great made me feel happy. I know you probably think what a weirdo but that's me!!!
Ok, just don't judge yourself. What's happening isn't your fault.
Nice
I agree with your point fully.
Simples...
Your examples missing some facts that I think should be taken into consideration, first off it was a botched circumcision that caused this that's how this doctor got his foot in the door.
Secondly the actual "therapy" that was used was basically child abuse which also included his brother who committed suicide before him.
Lets be honest if gender was just a social construct trans people wouldn't be a thing.
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Someone understands
Of course everyone's preferences are genetic-based. Cons/Reggies, deal with it. Libs/Alts deal with it. But who fucking cares? What people want at the time is important. NUFF SAID
Very nice point. Gender IS strictly male or female. And there are no crossing the lines. If you are "unsure who you are" look down when you're in the shower. If you see a penis you ARE a male. If you see a vagina you ARE a female. No matter how hard you try to debate this it is a scientifically and medically proven fact. There is no such thing as a male having a female brain or visa versa. Its it. Done. End of discussion. You were born that way. And the only way to change is with reconstructive surgery. But it WILL NOT change your brain into the brain of your new sex.
"There is no such thing as a male having a female brain or visa versa. " Oh? Please enlighten us with the studies that say so. Aw, Christ, who am I kidding? We all know that you're just another bigot who can't accept reality,
@JenSCDC the studies conducted either feed false information to you or they misconstrude the information they give you. Gender IS either MALE or FEMALE. Im not a bigot. The bigots are the ones who get on here and hate against those who are confused. Look at the facts. Most of the people going through a so called "gender crisis" are young teens. These people are still trying to find who they are. And they find they get more positive attention from being different than traditional. This whole conceept of more than 2 genders is created solely by the media to put a monkey wrench into things and cause confusion. YOU CANNOT BELIEVE ALL THE MEDIA YOU SEE. The media has an agenda behind it to take us to socialistic and eventually communistic government regimes. You dont see it right now but we are already on our way there unfortunatly. And you think you're discriminated against now... wait till were communistic and the governement controls literally every aspect of your life.
@JenSCDC besides. Did you not read the original post that STATED the CREATOR OF THE IDEA was a FRAUD? Why do you bring up studies when he basically ruled out the credibility of any study in the very first post?
So, so, sorry: I accidentally cut off the first part of the quote. "If you are "unsure who you are" look down when you're in the shower. If you see a penis you ARE a male. If you see a vagina you ARE a female. No matter how hard you try to debate this it is a scientifically and medically proven fact. There is no such thing as a male having a female brain or visa versa. " There, I think that fully captures your bigotry.
@JenSCDC what bigotry? Its BIOLOGY!!! Are you so crazy to debate a science? Because biology IN FACT is a SCIENCE!!!
My point exactly, but because you're a bigot you don't like it because it deals with actual facts.
Sexual identity is biological. Gender in the modern SJW sense is made up and yes, its a choice
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if there are 50 genders, then I guess there can't be a "pay-gap" for women, huh?
Only the mentally ill degenerates think it's a 'choice'
This was because of a botched circumcision.
Just another reason why infant circumcision should be banned.
Everyone who isn't nuts or brainwashed knows this.
No intelligent person ever thought gender was a social construct, no matter how many bullshit made up scientific "researches" they publish. Even science can't tell you what your eyes can see, and can't talk about things that are against nature, logic, common sense etc. Modern science is as credible as a hobo yelling shit in front of Walmart...
I see. So if I grow tired of my Johnson I can just switch. Hmmm, I think I'll hold onto them for now
You are confusing sex with gender.
No he isn't. The idea that gender is separate from sex comes from this theory, which as you can see from the result of his sick experiment was proven untrue.
@englisc Thanks. It's amazing how so many fail to see basic logic. But this anon post shows us that even though sex and gender are not separate. It doesn't stop virtue signaling males from being little bitches.
Can't wait for your next post about the existence of a master race...
I have no idea what your sad attempt at a shaming tactic is referring too. But I do recognize that it is a pathetic shaming tactic, so you get a b+ for trying.
Looks like I passed! YAY!!!
Agree for the most part.
Biological gender is not a social construct, but gender roles definitely are a social construct, you need to learn the difference.
Actually, I don't need to learn. Roles are NOT a social construct. Roles were defined by the default actions of people. In countries where people are given every opportunity to choose, women almost always go for typical female roles and males go for male roles. Even in infants, boys go for object-based toys (Trucks/guns/etc) and girls go for the humanity toys. (dolls/stuffed animals/etc)
Nope, roles were constructed by the patriarchal society, actions of people were influenced by Christian church (as well as analogous religious institutions in Judaism and Islam) - for hundreds or even thousands of years. In countries where people are given every opportunity to choose: There are lots of girls who like playing with guys, as well as lots of boys who don't like it... and vice versa - there are lots of boys who like stuffed animals, and even more girls who don't like playing with dolls (I know cause I was one of them).
*girls who like playing with guns* (typo).
Its not about who plays with what. If you watched survivor, you would see how, in a natural, survivalist setting, it is the men who hunt, work and build. The women could have done it too. Why didn't they? Its only rational that they assigned houseroles and caretaker roles to women. They looked at where women axcell at and gave them their job.
@lord_chilled Well, Survivor is based on stereotypes, but there were women who were huntresses and warriors, during the entire history, on all continents. Some modern women can't cook at all, on the other hand, some men are excellent chefs ;)
Wrong. It's biological. Look at any of our closest relatives and you'll see that they also have gender roles that conform with ours.
@Kkaos Wrong, unlike our closest relatives, we have evolved beyond animals.
You say our gender roles are societal. I then say that they are biological and mention how our closest ancestors all have them.. Then you say that we've evolved beyond gender roles.. Have we? If we have, we wouldn't even be having this conversation and you would not be able to say gender roles are 'societal' because clearly our society is just following the biology. We are still animals and we still have a lot of behavior that is instinctual, we're not as special as you think we are.
@Kkaos Have a look at our closest relatives? What are you going to find? A mostly peaceful matriarchal society.
@lilaqua We're talking about gender roles, for example chimps. "With early adolescence, 8-12 years of age in males and 8-10 years of age in females, chimpanzees begin to show significant differences in their behavior. Males spend more time with adult males patrolling the perimeters of their home territory, to detect and pursue chimpanzees of other communities. Females remain close to their mothers and begin to show adolescent swellings that signal the reproductive status of the female to males. Young females learn to be mothers by watching their mother and helping her with younger siblings. At 13-15 years of age, late adolescent male chimpanzees spend most of their time with adult males and females in estrus (sexually receptive), remaining peripheral to the main body of the community. During this period of time, young males attain dominance over all females."
@Kkaos This still doesn't really tell us anything about humans specific gender roles, since we share as much DNA with the common chimp as we do with the bonobo, who have an entirely different social structure to common chimps. Bonobos are female dominant and share a lot more of our sexual dynamics and behaviours than chimps do.
then again we should delve into the aspect that humans are not the same animals. We have the capacity for sentience, for original thought and expression. We have shown to manipulate social settings to our own will. We are not animals our behaviour is too variable to be categorised in the same way. From our preferences for food, colour, looks up to sexuality, philosophy and faith. We cannot be compared to an animal in terms of our social capacity.
You lost when you said "Patriarchy". You can't use fictional concepts as a base for an argument you want to be taken seriously.
Here's what happens when women are expected to do what men do naturally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7NoW703iQY
I don't know if you're talking to me or not but I didn't use the word patriarchy.
@Kkaos Yep, it's just social construct, we have evolved, but some people are obviously not (yet). People are not "following biology", they are following patriarchal religions, that's the only thing holding humanity back in the dark ages of ignorance. As for the animals, you know very well that some animals have dominant females, so your theory has no point.
@myTake Owner Patriarchy is not "fictional", it was imposed by the chauvinist religions (judeo-christian-islamic). As I said, Survivor is just a childish tv show, and those are wimpy western women, they don't know anything because they are raised in patriarchy... that's why all of them are "girly girls".
@lilaqua Excellent points :)
@lilaqua "We are not animals"... LOL.
@Kkaos I'm not saying we aren't but out social abilities do not match that of animals. It is far to varied an complex. You also ignore my bonobo point.
@lilaqua I just wanted to get that bit clarified first. Within the animal kingdom there's always big differences. A wolf is far more intelligent than a chicken for example, but both are animals. We can look at Bonobos, who are a rare example of female dominance. And then we can look at not just our other closest ancestors, but the vast majority of other animals in the animal kingdom and guess what? They also conform to our society. Look at tools, weapons... They're all invented by men. Why is that? Because when we were hunting in the wild, who were doing most of the hunting? Men. Who were doing most of the fighting? Men... Hence they developed tools to aid them in that. It's just the way things are. You cannot tell me that male dominance in general is a societal thing when the 'MALE HORMONE' is testosterone. Men produce far greater levels of testosterone than women and which hormone is linked to aggression and dominance? Testosterone.
@Kkaos sure, but dominance and being aggressive is one thing and social dominance is another. If you believe women should just be subjegated and placed in cells and immediately executed once they can no longer reproduce all in the name of male “domination” then fine, have a good day.
@lilaqua " If you believe women should just be subjegated and placed in cells and immediately executed once they can no longer reproduce all in the name of male “domination” then fine" That's disgusting, you're showing your true colors now. Not once did I say anything that implied that. If your tactic is putting shitty words in people's mouths then clearly you lack the capability of having a mature discussion. Good day to you too.
@Kkaos sorry I got bored and shitposting is fun. But to be fair I’ve encountered people who do think like this on these kinds of posts
@lilaqua Haha, I realize that. For the record I don't necessarily think men are better leaders, I simply think there are certain biological factors that cause men to be more power hungry on average.
@Kkaos Women also have testosterone, men also have estrogen, those are just hormones. Tomboyish women have more testosterone compared to girly girls. Sissy guys have more estrogen compared to macho men. So, it's all about the percentage of hormones... Some women like weapons, sports, cars and other so called "men's stuff". Some guys like cooking, fashion, cosmetics and other so called "women's stuff".
@lilaqua The Bonobo point was excellent, thank you for the opinion ;)
"Women also have testosterone" So? I never said women didn't. I said "men produce far greater levels of testosterone than women". Fact is men on average have much higher levels of testosterone than women. Men on average have far more muscle mass than women. Men on average are stronger than women. Men on average have more stamina than women. These are just basic biological facts which show which gender is better suited to which roles. Remember, the key word here is 'average'. There are always exceptions.
@Kkaos yes but in a modern day scenario what jobs are these relevant to. Women are just as physically suited to science, the arts and business physiologically.
@lilaqua It's irrelevant for most modern day jobs, or at least one's that aren't physically demanding. But the point is men and women are generally interested in different things and the reason for that is far more complex than it just being a societal thing.
@Kkaos You said "it's a male hormon" - As if only men have testosterone. Sure, men produce it in greater levels on average, but doesn't mean that all women have insufficient testosterone to make decisions, or that all men have enough testosterone to be "in charge". Of course, there are exceptions like women who have more stamina than men, or even more muscles, but it's not all about physical strength, it's about capability. If you are bothered by biology, remember, in UFC - the largest fighters are usually not the champions ;)
@lilaqua It all depends on personal preferences, not all the women like science, the arts and business, on the other hands, some men like "girly stuff" :D
I didn't say 'male hormone' as to imply that only men have it, if I was trying to imply that I wouldn't have said that men produce more (thereby implying women also produce it).. Testosterone is commonly referred to as the male sex hormone because it's the primary hormone that gives men male characteristics. The more testosterone you have, the more masculine you are. The more estrogen you have, the more feminine you are. That's why men produce far more testosterone and women produce far more estrogen. I don't really care about who's larger, or who's stronger. I'm just using that to explain why men are usually interested in different things than women. Another example, men are far more likely to take risks than women. Another thing that benefits hunting.
@Kkaos I think it’s sad that “female” orientated jobs don’t have as much perceived value in society or aren’t as well paid, even though they are a cornerstone of society. I guess if you look at it being a doctor is a “female” career and it is well respected and paid but that’s the only example I can think of.
@lilaqua I get what you're saying. I've seen plenty of women in business. Law is another one, I think there's plenty of female lawyers and judges. To be fair, there's plenty of 'male' jobs that aren't respected either- builder, electrician, mechanic etc. As long is everyone is free to follow their passion and there's no discrimination, I won't complain.
@Kkaos Actually, you wrote "when the 'MALE HORMONE' is testosterone" (with capital letters) - obvious implication ;) The thing is, some men have more estrogen, so you call them "feminine" (despite the fact they are males), and some women have more testosterone, so you call them "masculine" (despite the fact they are females). Gender roles are just a social construct, in modern society, a woman can be a hunter, soldier, police officer etc... evolution ;)
@lilaqua This is my opinion, not his.
Oh my God. I LITERALLY wrote 'men produce far greater levels of testosterone than women'... That is what I said. I said men produce more than women, thereby clearly saying women produce it to. That's what I said. Don't assume just because I used capital letters that I meant something that literally goes against what I said in writing. Testosterone is commonly called the male sex hormone. That's a fact. "woman can be" No no no. This isn't what I'm talking about. A woman can aspire to do whatever she likes. I'm explaining why women and men in GENERAL are interested in different things and it's not just societal.
@Kkaos nah, at least where I live builders, electricians and plumbers are one of the most highly paid jobs.
@lilaqua Eh, maybe they own their own business or something.
@Kkaos no this is just labouring. They earn over 100k a year generally.
@lilaqua I see. If the market sustains it, then cool I guess.
@Kkaos Don't try to make excuses, the first thing you wrote was: "when the 'MALE HORMONE' is testosterone". After that you said that men produce it more than women. First you used capital letters - showing your obvious chauvinism... you can't hide it, you lack self-control. Testosterone is falsely called the male sex hormone, because women have it too. Now you are generalizing again, not all women are the same, and not all men are the same. People like different things, regardless of their gender, despite the fact some societies and religions are trying to impose so called "gender roles" on them. That's it, now stop spamming on my post.
@lilaqua Considering you are pretending that I'm not here, I presume you are some kind of troll, who likes to spam on other people's comments, so I'm telling you for the last time, stop spamming on my opinion or I'll report both of you. You have inbox messages, so you can talk all you want, but not on my opinion!
Alright, it's becoming quite clear you're not all there, mentally speaking. I use capital letters to emphasize things. We're going around in circles, it's not called the male sex hormone because only men have it, brightspark. It's called that because that's the hormone that gives men their defining features and is the hormone of masculinity. I'm repeating myself. And why the hell are you having a go a lilaqua now? She was on your side, you nutcase. And sorry, your threats to report people for spamming will be just treated as nuisance reports. No one was spamming, we were having a casual debate/conversation and we'd actually finished talking. You're the one continuing this. If you don't like getting notifications, mute this post. And if you don't like people commenting on an opinion you leave, don't comment on people's mytakes.
@Kkaos Oh I'm here alright, and of course you are using capital letters to emphasize things, you were emphasizing MALE HORMONE, not "Men produce far greater levels of testosterone than women", obviously implying that testosterone is irrelevant in woman's body. You are repeating your chauvinist nonsense. Nope, she wasn't "on my side", in fact, I think she is just one of your fake profiles used to spam on other people's opinions and troll around pretending to "debate". I never mute my opinions, because I can't stand trolls like you, this is NOT YOUR MyTake, therefore - you can "debate" with "other people" on your own opinion, NOT on MINE, I don't care what you think, I never asked you for a comment, this is my comment, get it? Now sod off!.