OK! I have read ALL the comments; and your right- " the best" commenter was great, and SURE it was words of comfort they just aren't ALL the words you need to hear.
What happen that night was bad! Did he manipulate you? MAYBE! Should you be mad? HELL YES! But I think you are going about this the wrong way. I know you are upset, pissed, angry, regretful; but it's done, it's in the past. Try not to dwell on it to much, the more you do the worst you feel.
Also you need to take responsibility for your actions. Was it rape?; NO! But you feel like it was(and some may argue with you) but you didn't do much to stop him. I KNOW a few rape victims and each and every last one of them will tell you the same thing: You let him. Rather you know it or not. You said STOP once, and he SHOULD HAVE STOPPED RIGHT AWAY, but from what you said he stopped; but keep going?!? What is wrong with the both of you? Your mad and pissed off at people that obviously care more about you then the GUY or even your SELF; your a young respectful women, don't make compromise's for anyONE.
I'm not here to tell you how to live your life. If you want people to take what means a lot to you then that is on you. You are older then me; act like it. I'm not mean, I'm giving you some knowlged you should have learned along time ago. Don't let them take you frogranted.
NEVER let ANYONE walk all over you. And NO not all guys are manipulating; you just need to look for them- it might take a while but I believe that there are still GOOD guys out there. Just wait you WILL find him. I can promise you that. :p
Don't let what happened that night happen again. Be strong, like I know you are. You are better than him, you should NOT stay with him because your scared to be alone. Your only 20, LIVE&LOVE! What happened should just make you want to get up and take what you learned into consideration.
You are both to blame, I know you DON'T want to hear it but it's true. If you REALLY didn’t want him to then you would have found a way for him to stop even after the first time- why did you stay? Of course he thought that you wanted he to pick up where he left off. Guys are not that smart when it comes to us females, plus by that time he was thing with the wrong head. Never lead guys on if you don’t plan on following through. It could have be worse- he could have been the type of guy who doesn’t give a rats behind about your feelings or needs. Sure he ‘hopped back on the horse’ after you said no but you didn’t fight, did you? Not from what you said up there-so of course he went through with it. It was an easy hit. And thinking about it, it does sound like he coaxed you, BUT you let him and it sucks.
I hope you listen to what we have to say and don’t get all offensive about we are only trying to help.
I’m SO sorry what happened that night/day but I do wish you well…
:(0 1 0 0This isn't exactly an answer to your questions, but here is my advice to you:
If you can't be assertive, do not put yourself in sexual situations. You're not ready yet.
You will come across men who are manipulative, or men who are simply not mind readers and might not understand what the problem is, or even that there is a problem. Not every guy will verbally ask your permission before doing something---and not because they're bad guys, but simply because most people just let sexual activities go with the flow and don't stop in the middle to say, "Is it okay if I penetrate you vaginally now?"
Before you put yourself in a situation that might become sexual, know what your boundaries are. If things start heading in a direction that you're not comfortable with, speak up and tell the person. If you don't feel comfortable talking to someone about sex and about your boundaries, how can you be comfortable fooling around/having sex with them? Communication is very important when it comes to sex. You need to be able to talk about it, and you need to be able to say "no" or "stop" if something is making you feel uncomfortable or if you don't want to do something.
I know it isn't always easy to say no or to tell someone to stop. Sometimes you feel pressured or scared, or worried that they won't like you or that the mood might be ruined, or whatever. But unless you can be assertive enough to say it anyway, things like this might happen.
And it's great that you did say stop, but if someone isn't taking you seriously, continues to try, or tries to persuade you to keep going but you don't want to, stand up and put your clothes back on... or even leave if he isn't getting the picture. Maybe he's a douchebag, or maybe he just doesn't understand how serious you are, but actions will speak louder than words.
You're a smart girl, so don't allow yourself to be manipulated or pressured into doing something you don't want to do.
I'm not saying you're to blame if you say stop and someone doesn't listen (that's all him), but unless he's holding you down or threatening you, you do have more power to prevent things from continuing than you're probably giving yourself credit for.12 7 0 1Thank you so much...this is exactly what I needed to hear :)
Glad to see you helped her, but I honestly think she needs some tough love. Soft people will stay soft and vulnerable unless they get a kick in the ass and stop seeing themselves as vulnerable. She is 20 for gods sake. I wanted to but wasn't ready for the comitement of having sex till I was 24 or so, and didn't seek it till 26. There is no reason she should still have these problemes. Your a big girl now, don't expect people to treat you like a princess every time. I feel for you but tough love.
Sorry buy I think "dudeman" has a point. You obviously regret what happened and it IS stressing you out. Again, the bottom line is, he was an ass and you let it happen. He didn't rape you or force you or blackmail you or anything else. He just tryed real hard and got what he wanted. Next time your in this situation you'll know or have the balls to stand up for yourself. Happy F***ing
Okay a couple things... First, fooling around (e. g. oral sex) is still sex. I'm assuming you mean intercourse here. Second, anything other than "yes" is not consent to sex. Silence is not consent. So, yes, he was manipulating you and he should have stopped, especially after you explicitly said stop. Essentially you could say he raped you (how much hate will I get for saying this I wonder?). Now, in this awful patriarchal society that we live in, where men hold all the power, you do need to learn to stand up for yourself. But you also need to know that this sort of thing isn't your fault. A guy not being able to control his sexual urges is his own fault. It's just unfortunate where we live in a society where the message is "don't get raped" and tells girls what to do/what not to do, rather than directing the message "don't rape" at men. But anyway, I'm not going to get into that. I just want you to know you are not alone but you've got to learn to be stronger and more assertive in this world. Men love submissive and weak women because they are so easy to manipulate. So don't let that happen anymore. It's unfortunate this happened to you, but at least you can learn from this experience. Good luck, I hope you can turn things around for yourself. Find a new man (or maybe woman!), one who deserves you. Or take some time to yourself. Just do what makes you happy and don't let others walk all over you.
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Not all men are this manipulative. I strongly urge that you discontinue this relationship. If he really loved you, he would have more respect for you than this. At the very least, the absolute minimum, he would have asked permission instead of just forcing himself on you, as he appears to have done. You deserve so much more of so much better, better than what this guy is capable of.
The best place I can think of is church. The best way to tell, though, is who are is friends and what are his interests? That way, you can get an idea as to what influences him. Or at least observe how he behaves in the presence of said influences. For example, if he's out with friends and they say "hey, dinner's over and we've got some time to kill. We're going to that there strip joint across the street. Do you want to come?" "No, thanks. Not into that". "Okay, cool, we'll see you at the movie theater in an hour".
One time, I got a card in my mailbox at college from a girl who said she would never forget the time when she saw/heard me call (not chew) some guys out for being rude and unchivalrous towards some girls in the cafeteria. Personally, I have no memory of this, but still, you just have to observe how some guys behave when they're not in the safe zones of their homes.0 0 0 1Guess what? Just because he wasn't wearing a ski mask and he wasn't tying you up, you had non-consentual sex.
Think about that for a moment.
Now, what to do about it? The legal avenues will be entirely unhelpful because, well, reasonable doubt and all that. First things first, discuss this with someone you can trust. Second, discuss this with the guy with perfect frankness. His response will determine whether he's a scumbag or if he truly got the wrong idea.
For the other side of things, shore up the things in your life you need to take care of. Not knowing the whole story, it doesn't appear that he was especially manipulative; the coercion here is minimal, more a lack of speaking up on YOUR part. You said stop, he stopped. Then he started again. I can't say any more on the issue because that's all I've got. However, now that you know what to look for, you can fix this in the future, but you especially need to face the attitude of being willing to compromise your values so that you're not alone. This is an unhealthy attitude that can easily land you in abusive relationship that ends up with you being manipulated.3 0 2 2by law it was concesual sex since they were fulling around and she made no attempt to physically, or verbally stop him
She clearly said "stop," which he did, then started again. I'll just leave this Virginia code here: A. If any person has sexual intercourse with a complaining witness, whether or not his or her spouse, or causes a complaining witness, whether or not his or her spouse, to engage in sexual intercourse with any other person and such act is accomplished (i) against the complaining witness's will... But of course since you were the one having sex against your will, I guess w should listen to you.
nope she said stop and he did then he thought that everything was OK and he started again it was a misunderstanding it wasn't rape legally she gave permission
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16 20If you thought he manipulated ou then why would you keep seeing him/? Two wrongs don't make a right. I honestly can not believe I just read that you were going to continue to see him. That tells me that you must care and are attracted to him in some way. The situation you lost your virginity in was not the ideal. You already understand that you both were equally responsible for your actions. He didn't steal anything that you didn't lie there naked and wasn't willing to give. Many of us would never lie naked and then say please don't come inside me unless the rules were concrete. Then you gave into to him again after you said NO. You regretted it and it bothers you because you can't believe that you didn't get up and leave after the first time. So do you love this guy? Are you angry about the fact your first memory stinks? Well you did say he is still with you so make his life hell for it. Give him an education on what a mainpulating SOB he is.
0 0 0 0This is a none issue. You just lost your virginity, good for you, realy. It didn't happen the way you wanted maybe, but you still went along with it. Your 20, you can't be that stupid to not know wheather your about to have intercourse. This is just a learning experience and you should see that and learn from it. You don't need this guy, but if he is a keeper than keep him.
3 2 3 0If its a "non issue" like you say it is, then why is it stressing me out and constantly on my mind? Just to give you a taste of what it was like, imagine constantly reaching down to check that its not going in, saying ?be careful? repeatedly, and not giving any indication that it was OK to continue. I even told him I was not OK with us both being naked at the same time but he disregarded and made sarcastic comments like "I can't get your breasts pregnant".
its stressing you out because you regret what you did
You can't regret something that wasn't you fault to begin with...
get a hold on yourself..you don't want it to happen but it did, some guys are smooth talker letting you hear what you want to hear but at the back of their minds it's just words in the air..after he gets you to bed..it's game over for you he will probably take his time with you since you were his first but after he losses interest he'll leave you..don't also pressure yourself on having someone for the wrong reasons..based from what your saying your not that happy at all your just looking for security..learn to love and value yourself and set your standards..the guy your with is just taking advantage of you
1 1 0 1no, all guys are not that manipulative; however, you have to find someone who fits you like a matching puzzle peice. ther's no 'find mr.right here!' stores so you're going to have to spend a little time with the person before deciding to give them what you've got- it really pays off in the long run.
0 1 0 1The guy stopped when you said stop. He may have been persuading you to keep going when it was clear you were uncomfortable, but it was ultimately your choice to keep going. It didn't have to happen that way...you let it happen that way. What I'm saying may come off as harsh but really, you need to stand up for yourself.
And no, not every guy is like that. Although a lot of people are willing to say anything to get what they want.2 0 0 1
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