Why Female and Male Circumcision are Incomparable, but Still Equally Bad

Let me tell you this, I don't agree with any form of genital mutilation. Because essentially, that is what circumcision is. It's unnatural and doesn't have real advantages to it. Some medical risks might be lowered but it's a highly unnecassery procedure.

Why Female and Male Circumcision are Incomparable, but Still Equally Bad

Let me explain the male procedure first, for those that aren't accquinted to it.

The head of the penis is covered by a hood, aka the foreskin. During the procedure, that skin is removed and exposes the head of the penis.

In newborns, circumcision can be performed in several ways. The most common techniques protect the head of the penis with special devices while the foreskin is removed. Your doctor will determine which method is appropriate.

In newborns, the three most common circumcision techniques are:

1. The Gomco Clamp
A special instrument called a probe is used to separate the foreskin from the head of the penis (they are usually joined by a thin membrane). Next a bell-shaped device is fitted over the head of the penis and under the foreskin (an incision may be made in the foreskin to allow this). The foreskin is then pulled up and over the bell and a clamp is tightened around it to reduce blood flow to the area. A scalpel is used to cut and remove the foreskin.

2. The Mogen Clamp
Again, the foreskin is separated from the head of the penis with a probe. The foreskin is then pulled out in front of the head and inserted through a metal clamp with a slot in it. The clamp is held in place while the foreskin is cut with a scalpel and remains for a few minutes after this to make sure that bleeding has been controlled.

3. The Plastibell Technique
This method is similar to the Gomco clamp technique. After separation with a probe, the plastic bell is placed under the foreskin and over the head of the penis. A piece of suture is tied directly around the foreskin, which cuts off the blood supply to the foreskin. A scalpel may then be used to cut off the extra foreskin, but the plastic ring is left on. About 6 to 12 days later it falls off on its own.

The female procedure is a bit more complicated since it's almost never surgically performed. If it is, not in a western country.

There are three types of female circumcision that a woman can have done to her. Girls anywhere from infancy to adulthood can have this practice done in any of the three types:


1. Sunna circumcision (Type I)

The word “sunna” refers to Muhammad’s early tradition of the practice. Here the tip of the woman’s clitoris is shaved or cut off, found in many countries in both East and West Africa, and in countries in the Middle East.


2. Clitoridectomy (Type II)

They cut off the partial or entire clitoris and the inner labia. Clitoridectomics most often occur in places where Infibulation (or Type III) has been banned.


3. Infibulation or pharaonic Circumcision (Type III)

This most drastic form of FGM is the removal of the clitoris and labia, with the remaining skin stretched across the vagina from both the sides and stitched together with either thread, thorns or catgut. This leaves only a small opening through which the woman can urinate, and which menstrual blood can come through.

Now, as you can read, the two procedures are very different. With male circumsicion, only a liece of skin is removed while with female circumsicion, an entire organ is removed. Female circumsicion has no benefits at all, male circumsicion at least has the benefit of easy cleansing (even though it's not very valid to me). Many females that have had to endure curcumsicion have died due to infection, blood loss or extreme pains. Both procedures are inhumane and I don't support neither. I don't think we should make the choice to do something unnecassery to a born child. To me it's the same as tattooing a child or giving them earrings. Purposefully harming your child makes you unfit tp be a parent in most cases, so why not in the case of circumsicion?

source(s);

https://www.axomlive.com/blog/female-circumcision-a-ritual-or-a-mode-of-torture.html

https://m.kidshealth.org/en/parents/procedure-circumcision.html?WT.ac=

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  • It's done for religion. Addressing the science doesn't accomplish anything because religious people are anti-science.

    • I agree, but talking about it and making sure people are aware it's still happening can create space for religious people to change their ways. (Even though that rarely happens, each generation becomes more progressive)

    • I'm religious, A pagan and I hate creationism being taught in schools, think that we should cut the military budget not just for social services but NASA needs at least 40 billion dollars more a year, etcera

    • And we still got people like waffles that have common sense lol

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  • I considered touching on this topic before, but I feel like you've covered it quite well. Good work.

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  • They are equally important issues, but not equally harmful practices.

  • I don't agree with circumcision but then again most reasonable people don't. In general I don't mind religious customs and my philosophy is "if you don't push your beliefs on me I won't push mine onto you" but as far as circumcision is concerned- religious beliefs gone too far.

    • Actually science has shown lower risk of infection with circumcision. The foreskin was there for protection running through brambles; not many people do that naked anymore.

    • @zagor So you're okay with cutting your baby's dick in order for them to have less infection risk? You could also just teach your child how to wash his dick.

    • It's excess skin. You cut your nails don't you?

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  • Thank you for your reasonable approach to this. As someone who is very opposed to all genital cutting on any unconsenting minor, I feel like people that try to compare the procedures, or worse, argue that since male circumcision is legal that female circumcision should be as well, are not moving the cause forward, and may actually be hurting the cause.

    Their arguments look ridiculous to most people, which automatically get them placed in the "this person is crazy" category, meaning their opinion has been discounted. If someone hears this type of argument too often, they may start to place everyone who is anti-circumcision into the crazy category, discounting all of our arguments.

    People that try to say that they are the same also tend to immediately go to that argument, which leaves valid arguments unheard. The best argument for not circumcising is that it is an unnecessary permanent change to sexual function and removal of erogenous tissue. Leaving a child intact leaves that decision up to that child when they reach adulthood. There of course are many other valid arguments to be made against circumcision as well, but jumping immediately to the false equivalency with the misnamed female circumcision leaves all of those valid arguments unheard.

  • Circumcision doesn't impede sexuality or diminish pleasure. Just keep Junior moisturized.
    Clitoridectomy severely reduces a woman's capacity to enjoy sex.

    • As she said - not equal or compariable - but both bad.

    • Besides, how do you know male circumcision doesn't impede sexuality of pleasure? comparing two different people in this is meaningless. Mechanically, about half of the nerve endings in the area are cut away during circumcision - I think I will err on the side of suspecting that will have an effect.

    • @Walrus_au More nerve endings or fewer, the goal is to accrue sufficient stimulation to reach orgasm. What I have "left" has always been sufficient.

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  • I'm circumcised and I had no choice in the matter, it's unfair to be honest.

  • I know this is post is old, but I did a Mytake on this if you wanna check it out 🤗

  • For me its a simple question. Is this medical procedure necessary for the child's health/well being, or is it cosmetic?

    If the answer is cosmetic, then they can make up their own mind when they are an adult.

    • Considering that even when American doctors might think that it's necessary it almost always isn't and can be treated in a much less invasive way, this rule of thumb should bring the rate to near zero.

  • I'm glad I was circumcised. I understand the surgery sounds horrifying to people, but really it's actually one of the most minor, preventative surgeries available. Neo Natal is the best time frame for the procedure if one was to theoretically need a circumcision. The recovery time and risk are significantly lower than compared to being circumcised as an adult. It also lowers the risk of a urinary tract infection, and the reason being is that anaerobic bacteria thrives under foreskin. This is the type that can survive in your bladder, which is a low oxygen environment. By removing the foreskin, the glans of the penis is covered instead by aerobic bacteria. You also never have to worry about phimosis, or smegma.

    www.aap.org/.../...ill-Up-to-parents-Says-AAP.aspx

    • It is also an "extra layer" of protection if you will against STD's.

    • So it's cutting in your newborn because the CHANCES are LOWER, meaning still possible, or it's not cutting your child and teaching him how to wash his penis? Yeah.. imma go with the latter if you don't mind. I think circumsicion isn't a choice we should get to make as parents since it's value is so little, harming my own child just wouldn't be worth it.

    • @bente2 It doesn't really harm the child. They typically cry at first, but are fine after a few minutes. Doctors used to circumcise children in a line in the hospital, and literally the child he first works on tends to stop crying when he gets to the last one. It's a minor preventative surgery, with a lifetime of benefits. Also, phimosis and smegma are impossible to get while circumcised. It's also cost efficient on a medical basis. It's not necessary, but the procedure does have medical purposes. It isn't all for cosmetic or religious reasons. Also, how do you feel about vaccinating children? Should we not vaccinate them because they are not old enough to give their consent?

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  • Yay for a nuanced and thought out statement on it. Thankyou!

  • I was circumcised as there was no other option for me (due to a medical condition) and I feel way better.
    The advantages outweigh the disadvantages so I have to disagree with you.
    P. S I have no idea about female circumcision.

    • I wrote about female circumsision, which is an illegal practice in most countries. If circumcision is nesaccery, that is not the same as just doing it for the sake of doing it.

    • Yes, but circumcision itself is not bad if done with the right reason and motive. It can prevent a lot of problems including penile infections etc. Just for the sake of doing it? Nah. I don't support that.

    • And just for you to know, male circumcision doesn't diminish sexual pleasure.

  • nice take

  • Nice take. You characterized this issue perfectly in the title, and the take itself is spot on. Thank you for taking the time to write it.

    Female genital mutilation is horrible. I think no person in their right mind would argue otherwise.

    There is no valid justification for male circumcision these days either, and it does do a lot of harm. The challenge is raising awareness about it, and your take does just that.