Why It Is Important To Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Over the last few days the hashtag #IStandWithPP has taken over social media sites like Twitter. The hashtag is a response to a movement to defund Planned Parenthood who receives some federal funding.

Defunding Planned Parenthood would be a huge mistake and would affect many young women across the country. A common misconception is that Planned Parenthood solely exists to perform abortions. Sure, Planned Parenthood does help women who, for whatever reason, decide to have an abortion, but they help women (and men) in countless other ways.

Planned Parenthood also provides treatments for STD's, help with cancer realted issues, contraceptive services, PAP screens, and maybe most importantly education on sexual and reproductive health care.

To remove funding for Planned Parenthood would be a huge oversight and nothing more than mistake. It is important that women have a safe place to go when they feel they need help and there is no other place to turn.

Several people have shown their support and the reasons they stand with Planned Parenthood recently.

Hell yes #IStandWithPP! As a mom/sister/aunt/friend I believe that every girl should have a safe place to turn when she needs one. #PinkOut

— Katie Aselton (@duplaselton) September 30, 2015

#IStandWithPP !! because I want all women, regardless of economic background, to have nonjudgmental access to reproductive healthcare.

— Stefan Moorehead (@mrpilkington) October 1, 2015

#IStandWithPP because my reproductive health depends on it.

— Betzabear (@OsaColorRosa) October 1, 2015

#IStandWithPP keep fighting for women's health care!

— Vixen (@VixenHidden) October 1, 2015

Proud to say #IStandWithPP! Thank you @PPFA for giving me safe access to birth control & UTI meds & advice & normal check ups! ❤️

— Shadi Garman (@ShadiGarman) September 22, 2015

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry but there are plenty of other health care providers that deserve the funding. Planned Parenthood is no better than any other women's health care provider. Therefore, I will stick to a real hospital with people who genuinely care about my health.
Planned Parenthood is known as the "Abortion Clinic". I was told, when I was younger, that Planned Parenthood was a Women's Health clinic. So, I booked an appointment and went in in hopes to get Birth Control. As soon as I walked in I was automatically asked if I wanted to get an abortion. When I said no, I was questioned about why I had come to them in the first place if I wasn't seeking to get an abortion. When I mentioned birth control, they told me to go to the hospital down the street and speak to an OBGYN. Never again in my life will I go to Planned Parenthood. Given my experience with these people, you will never be able to convince me that this place isn't strictly a Abortion Clinic. I will stand behind anyone trying to defund them.

[Anonymous]

Reading the male responses to this take, it's clear that a lot of people understand nothing about what Planned Parenthood does -- or anything about women's health, for that matter. Really disappointing.

#IStandWithPP

[GirlScout]

Shocking huh.

[sluggognatface]

Yeah shocking. *rolls eyes*. Good answer man thank you

[pnl86]

Regardless how anyone feels towards Planned Parenthood, can we all stop mindlessly pretending like they're on the verge of bankruptcy and closing their doors anytime soon?

www.lifenews.com/.../

There are plenty of other organizations fighting for other noble causes that don't receive nearly as much funding... from anyone, let alone the government or billionaires.

So, where exactly is this sense of hyper-zealous "urgency" regarding Planned Parenthood coming from?

[Pat8707]

for anyone who wants to know what he's talking about, here:
www.lozierinstitute.org/.../

[Ratiocinative]

Why are some people so desperate to murder babies? Fetus is just the latin term for baby. Fetus means baby. Planned Parenthood even admitted just yesterday in a congressional hearing that they don't do mammograms and that women's health would not be affected if they lost funding because of how many other clinics are out there.

Planned Parenthood is nothing more than a corrupt Democrat doner group that takes tax payer money, donates some to Democrat candidates, keep some for its executives, and on the side they target and murder babies of minority races.

#IRacistMurderWithPP

[melinanardelli]

It's easy for you to say, you can just leave if you dont want the baby. Us women have to actually grow a being inside us and take care of it. #myuterusmychoices Its not murder it's common sense. If one doesn't want a baby, they have a valid reason. The child won't have a good life if the parents didn't want him/her in the first place.

[GirlScout]

Saw this today, what a surprise!

www.greenvillegazette.com/.../

[Minxxie]

Seriously though when my friend found a lump in her breast and could not afford a cancer screening anywhere else we were glad to have Planned Parenthood. We didn't want anyone else to know until there was a result, and they were very kind and discreet. It ended up being benign but she still had to get surgery to have it removed. Without Planned Parenthood we still wouldn't be able to afford a screening and we would still be terrified not knowing what it was.

[vishna]

There was actually a group on my college campus today with a hundred mini pink crosses and signs with captions like "Planned Parenthood Sells Baby Parts"

I think those responsible SHOULD be punished to the full extent for corruption and deception. However, planned parenthood does a necessary service to society.

Everyone who hates the idea of abortions or giving aid to those lazy welfare queens, should understand that unsafe abortions, drop out rates, and child neglect will probably rise if women are denied access to affordable birth control and abortion clinics.

As someone who has received birth control from planned parenthood, if I was unable to get this effective affordable treatment and accidentally got pregnant, abortion would be a serious consideration.
I'm already in debt to the government for my college education, and I don't see dropping out as an option.
Making it harder to get birth control, a vastly larger service of PP than abortions, will negatively affect women and children. People get abortions because they can't take care of children, why make it worse on both parties and force a child on someone who doesn't want it or a risky abortion?

Punish those responsible not the women and potential children.

And for everyone crying bloody murder over their alleged tax dollars being used to abort fetuses, it is 100% against the law to use federal money to fund abortions.
If PP did do that, then punish whoever did, but know that regulations are in place that Forbid this and this probably isn't the case.

[lePoivre]

When I saw the picture in the thumbnail image, I swore it said "sandwich people" at first.

[thedevilwithin]

Why don't people just go to the doctor if they need medical assistance? Wouldn't they do all the same stuff? I'm not from the States, we have healthcare in Australia which lets our doctors do all the cancer screenings and provide contraception etc, so we don't have organisations like PP. I mean, isn't checking for cancer a thing that doctors are supposed to do?

[OlderAndWiser]

Is there anyone reading these posts old enough to understand the euphemism "koolaid drinker?" That is what I thonk of when I hear people wanting to support the corrupt organization known quite ironically as "Planned" Parenthood.

[GirlScout]

Accidentally upvoted you there sorry!

[OlderAndWiser]

@GirlScout Oh, I wouldn't think of holding anyone responsible for their behavior! How unkind would that be?

[DarkHumorRUs]

Haha, so true. Everything you said.

[GirlScout]

I'm all for being accountable, but abortion is like drug use, like it or not it will always happen. You can either let people die in back street alleys bleeding from their wombs or we can be realistic and make sure there are safe places for this to happen. First and foremost we need to provide adequate education and prevention, but abortions will always happen.

[OlderAndWiser]

@GirlScout People who are against planned parenthood are not necessarily against abortions. They are opposed to the barbarism which has been exposed and they would like to see the funding transferred to other groups which will not sell body parts for profit.

[aliencreature]

they get money from the government and from selling dead baby parts. while i'm all for stem cell research, i'm not for a privatized organization receiving funds from the government, especially when they make so much money off baby murder. either they should be a state sponsored, non profit organization or a for profit, private organization with no ties to the government; not both. they dont get to sit on the fence and reap the best of both worlds, especially not on such a contentious issue. abortion should be illegal after the first trimester for 2 reasons: 1, science has proven after this point the vital organs and nervous system develop so with every week after that point the chances you're killing a living feeling being with a heartbeat get higher and 2, if you can't decide after 3 months if you want a child, that is no longer your choice to make-- a kid doesn't deserve to die because you were too irresponsible to make up your mind.

[aliencreature]

its not a matter of whether we should be "pro-choice" or "pro-life" because while both sides argue black and white there is always a 3 month window where we can have both. but whether abortion is ethical or not, i can still set that whole argument aside and say without a shadow of a doubt that planned parenthood does not deserve a single penny of our tax dollars, and that regardless of what kind of business they are engaged in, they are entirely unethical if only on that epithet alone

[GirlScout]

So the issue is that they get government funding and make a profit? Is this a rare thing in America? The abortion thing... I just can't get into that because it's just not a case of one person is right the other wrong. I don't quite understand why people are so so protective of only just humans when there are millions starving in this world.

[skykidx1]

@aliencreature i dont mind paying for birth control

[OlderAndWiser]

@GirlScout 1. We can't save all the starving people in the world so it's okay to kill babies. 2. It's not about abortion. It's about planned parenthood flagrantly violating the law in barbaric ways and having the unbridled arrogance to think that they are immune from prosecution.

[GirlScout]

They aren't babies though - why are people so concerned about them? I genuinely don't get it. We walk past people on the floor, begging for help every day. Why care about an unwanted unborn baby? I honestly do not understand. With regards to selling body parts of dead things no one wants, don't see that big of an issue as long as consent has been gained. I know there has been a lot of false figures and bullshit circulated with regards to this issue. It's hard to know fact from propaganda.

[OlderAndWiser]

@GirlScout Your response tells me that there is no point in discussing the subject further; you refuse to acknowledge the presence of moral issues. It is your right to bury your head in the sand but not all of us will follow your example.

[GirlScout]

How is it burying my head in the sand? Moral issues? You mean like looking after the people already born instead of those yet to be? That is my moral issue with anti-abortionists.

[aliencreature]

@GirlScout you dismiss terrible terrible things because other terrible things happen every day. thats pretty fucked up

[aliencreature]

and yeah they're not the only private organization to turn a massive profit while leeching off the government for 100% of their overhead when they could easily afford to do so on their own. the government does the same thing when they outsource for municipal violations and its fucking terrible. didn't your mother ever tell you 2 wrongs dont make a right? they just make a whole shitload more wrong with this world.

[OlderAndWiser]

@GirlScout Anti-abortion people say, "Screw all those starving people!"? Do you know who operates most facilities that feed homeless people in this country? Churches. And are you really saying that it's okay to kill unborn babies because there are people who are starving? I guess we should allow depressed people to commit suicide so there will be fewer mouths to feed. And we can kill anyone who goes to prison for the same reason. Do you really want to stand on that logic? You must know that is horribly wrong, even if you refuse to admit it to anyone else.

[aliencreature]

whoops meant to post this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjpmT5noto

[John_Doesnt]

@aliencreature you didn't read the take did you? It specifically tries to teach you that planned parenthood does a lot more than abortions. In fact abortion only makes up about 3% of their income. Just because you think it is immoral doesn't mean you can force that belief on other people. If you don't like abortion, then don't have one. But you can't make it impossible for other people to have one safely.

[John_Doesnt]

@opinionowner your idea of morality is different from other's. You can't force it on a woman's body. Just like I can't force my morality on you. I can't force you to have an abortion anymore than you have a right to force a woman not to have one. Your morality doesn't rule the world, stop thinking that your way of thinking is superior to everyone' else.

[OlderAndWiser]

@John_Doesnt So, if you don't think it is immoral to commit murder, then my morality can't be forced upon you? Want to come up with another explanation?

[aliencreature]

@John_Doesnt yeah most of their money goes to advertising and propaganda--just like the pro-life front; only they dont get tax dollars for preaching their abstinence bullshit. you can't pontificate with your sanctimonious bullshit about forcing your beliefs on people in defense of an organization that forces the public to financially support their beliefs--thats hypocrisy at its finest. i believe in a happy balance, but at the very least i expect that government funds stay the fuck out of strictly partisan pursuits and especially stay the fuck out of using everyones money for the shit that only one group wants

[John_Doesnt]

@opinionowner it is your specific belief that abortion is murder. Many people don't believe it is murder. Just like vegans can't force their belief that eating beef is murder on you. You pro-lifers just regurgitate the same argument over and over. @aliencreature try reading what I said again. Only 3% of their profits and income come from abortion. The rest of the profits come from the things the Takeowner mentioned. Learn to read, but if you could learn to do that you wouldn't be pro-life.

[aliencreature]

@John_Doesnt you learn to read you piece of shit. i'm not "pro-life" or "pro-choice" or any of these stupid fucking labels people use to stigmatize their opponents or stroke their morality boner and pretend they're the world authority on anything. PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION THAT doesn't DESERVE A DIME OF TAXPAYER MONEY. I'll say it again. PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION THAT doesn't DESERVE A DIME OF TAXPAYER MONEY. PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION THAT doesn't DESERVE A DIME OF TAXPAYER MONEY. Forget baby murder, it wouldn't matter if they used that money for the noblest purposes in the world--which they dont, they use it to increase their profit margins--PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION THAT doesn't DESERVE A DIME OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

[OlderAndWiser]

@aliencreature @John_Doesnt Can we have a truce here? Obviously, none of us are stupid, and disagreements happen among people of intellect on a routine basis. We do obviously share some differences in values, but values tend to be based on some assumptions which are incapable of being proven right or wrong. We will not change each other's beliefs and spewing vitriole accomplishes nothing. The subject of our disagreement will be resolved in Congress and perhaps by the next president, but it will certainly not be resolved on G@G!

[John_Doesnt]

@aliencreature nice way of getting emotional and childish. The government makes profits in most of their workings and organizations. The DMV actually makes profits and the police raise money through police auctions. It makes the burden on tax dollars less of a problem. @opinionowner no it will not be decided by congress because it was already decided by the supreme court back in 1984 during the case of Roe v Wade. Congress and the president can't overrule that. Abortion will always be legal nation wide thanks to that case, but what we're actually talking about is how it goes about, how it's funded and when a woman has a right to abortion.

[aliencreature]

but once again this is not a debate about abortion, take that out of the equation and what planned parenthood is doing is still OBJECTIVELY wrong. i shouldn't have to get into the whole kantian "moral imperative" to explain exactly why that is, but this is the generation of lexiconical skeptics, where everyone debates every definition, every truth, the very idea of truthfulness, until the language, the way we see the world, every rock solid factual idea we put our faith in crumbles under the weight of an insurmountable ignorance that points the finger at everyone else like they are the ignorant ones, like ignorance itself has become this subjective issue--but its not!!! a truth is a truth no matter how few people believe in it, ignorant is ignorant even if the whole world believes it is the smartest thing in the world, not relative to our personal definitions but irrespective of us, the world will go around the sun, 2+2 will always equal 4 and taxation without representation is evil

[GirlScout]

No, I'm not saying it's ok to kill babies because people are starving, I just genuinely don't understand why people care so much an out other people's unwanted babies.

[OlderAndWiser]

@John_Doesnt I am an attorney and I understand how the legal system works. The issue to be decided by Congress and perhaps the next president is the issue which I have been discussing: the funding of planned parenthood. As an aside, you should understand that Congress could propose a constitutional amendment which would overrule Roe v. Wade and the amendment would require approval by the state legislatures. @GirlScout You don't understand why people would care about other people's unborn children. Does that mean that other people really don't care - because you don't understand it and, therefore, it can't possible be true - or does it mean that you truly do not understand what motivates Christians in their opposition to abortion?

[John_Doesnt]

@opinionowner you just exposed yourself by admitting you're doing this for Christian reasons. If you're an attorney then you should know that the first amendment clearly states "Congress shall make no law with respect to a religious institution". So you're completely wrong about congress having the power to repeal it. They could only repeal it if there was no religious motivation whatsover. And the only argument you have is the same argument vegans have about why eating beef is murder. Do you not understand why some people care if you "murder" a cow or fox for a fur coat? Vegans can't force congress to rule that fur coats are murder.

[OlderAndWiser]

@John_Doesnt A subsequent amendment to the constitution can amend or repeal a prior amendment, or even the body of the Constitution itself. And it would not matter what motivated people to propose or vote for the subsequent amendment. If a subsequent amendment can have no effect on a prior amendment, as you erroneously suggest, how did this country repeal Prohibition?

[GirlScout]

This is messy enough without bringing religion into it.

[John_Doesnt]

So you're suggesting we repeal the First Amendment? Hell no, never. Move to a theocracy if you want your congress to make decisions based on Christianity or some other religion.

[OlderAndWiser]

@John_Doesnt I NEVER said anything about repealing the First Amendment. You have jumped to a conclusion which is unwarranted. You believe that because Christians are opposed to abortion, a constitutional amendment would need to repeal the First Amendment. Wrong thinking! Roe v. Wade was decided on the basis of an implied right to privacy based upon the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. A constitutional amendment to restrict abortions would amend, not repeal, the Due Process Clause. You are trying to argue about things that you apparently do not understand and that places you on thin ice. The fact that you feel passionately about your position does not mean that you are right or that you understand your opponent and can shred his arguments. Passion breeds a species of arrogance which actually weakens your arguments.

[John_Doesnt]

@opinionowner talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Your only argument is about passion and emotion. The only argument you have against abortion is "Abortion is murder" which you have absolutely no way of proving because it's an opinion. Science has determined across the globe that abortion is not murder. So unless you can get the majority of scientists in the first world countries to agree they were wrong you will never have a valid scientific argument.

[OlderAndWiser]

@John_Doesnt I never claimed that my position on abortion was based on science or scientifically supported facts, so your response has missed the mark. Passion has not clouded my judgment because I understand why people taking an opposing position. As for the other points I made, you did not respond, so I will assume that you have conceded your errors. Respond if you must but I am getting tired of the same old angry liberal rhetoric. If you insist on having the final word. . . have it. I abandoned that need many years ago.

[John_Doesnt]

I didn't respond because you never responded to my original question which is: what other argument do you have that abortion is wrong? If you don't have any other then it's not enough to say abortion is murder. While the pro-choice people have plenty of evidence to prove that women will get an abortion whether it's legal or not.

[lucrecia]

It is important to stand AGAINST it

[Curmudgeon]

Gee, maybe all these wealthy celebs should donate to Planned Parenthood. It could be a charity tax write off for them. Meanwhile, those of us who don't want to pay for abortions, and those of us watching the budget going deeper and deeper into Red ink, want the federal government to squander less of our tax money, starting here.

[Gonetowardthewind]

Why should I care about planned parenthood? They don't help with men's health at all, all the while taking money from the government. I can tell you if any other group did that and excluded females then there would be title 9 lawsuits being thrown at them and they would instantly get defunded for violations of title 9.

[gotc147]

Other than abortions, Planned Parenthood doesn't do anything other clinics don't.

The options women have are nearly endless, supporting Planned Parenthood is solely about abortions, nothing more.

[sluggognatface]

I see you make an effort at trying to be truthful at least some of the times. You and I both know this answer of yours is not true at all. Planned parenthood is about (in order) birth control, women's health then abortions in that order. It just so happens that they are needed more for abortions because of this ridiculous notion that abstinence is a realistic form of birth control and religion will somehow save us all from being mammals with sexual urges. Bristol Palin could probably chime in but she is currently involved in a gang bang.

[gotc147]

@sluggognatface my statement is 100% true, clinics hand out condoms like candy and women's health clinics are plentiful without Planned Parenthood. Once again, Planned Parenthood doesn't do anything other clinics don't OTHER THAN abortions. You not liking that fact doesn't change it validity.

[sluggognatface]

Many PP's are being targeted because there are no other options within a close distance. Believe what you want I guess.

[gotc147]

Wow, you went from argument A to argument B faster than I can blink...

[DarkHumorRUs]

If people support Planned Parenthood so much, then it should be defunded from the government, and they can all donate to help it. Why can't they support themselves like any other business...

[Midgetgirl28]

It's not funded by government. People are just idiots and think that they do.

[DarkHumorRUs]

@Midgetgirl28 then what would refunding it even mean

[Midgetgirl28]

I have no idea

[DarkHumorRUs]

Defunding fucking auto correct

[aliencreature]

exactly the same argument i use against socialists who claim to want healthcare because its an "inalienable human right". i say awesome, so what of the many many healthcare charities out there have you actually donated to? none of them? big surprise :)

[Claireluvskaren]

The U. S. Government provides $550 Million to PP of which $525,000 is paid to the CEO, so your taxes are paying for this. Plus they are receiving extra income from selling aborted baby parts, true they provide other services but the bad well outweigh the good.

[Riggers]

Why should taxpayers have to fund this?

If you want an abortion you should pay for it yourself, Not dozen's of taxpayers, Some of whom may not agree to abortions.

Thats not fair.

[GirlScout]

Are you crazy? So someone who is too incapable or poor to care for a child is forced to keep it because someone thinks it's special little snowflake that must be saved? Because she can't afford birth control or an abortion? Personally, I feel irresponsible people like that should t be encouraged to have offspring. It's not a smart move. I pay for your welfare and have been doing for over a decade, you will have been getting child benefit until you were sixteen, why should I pay to raise someone else's child? Because we live in a semi socialist society where we care for each other. I'm surprised at your response Riggers.

[Riggers]

Actually, You haven't been paying jack towards me, My parents earned over 'X' amount of money so we were never entitled to child support for me or my sister. Look, I am not personally against abortions, Personally i think lack of financial stability etc are very good reasons to have an abortion, Though, i am just saying, This issue is probably split 50/50 between people who are Pro abortion, and those who are not, So it dosen't seem fair to me that 50% of people need to pay tax towards something that they consider murder. (Personally i dont, But i appreciate their perspective). And, Surprised? How come?, Surely by now you know that i'm a retard who says antagonistic crap right? xD

[brookeelizabeth96]

i agree with Riggers. Why do taxpayers need to pay for your abortion?

[Dandeus]

Would rather pay for the abortion of someone with no financial means? Or the 12 years of schooling, the 18 years of Medicare, the WIC, and all the other loads on infrastructure that will come with forcing the girl to have the unwanted baby? @brookeelizabeth96

[brookeelizabeth96]

@Dandeus Maybe protection should be used to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Birth control is cheap, and condoms are easily accessible.

[Riverock]

A discussion on the issue of women's rights and reproductive rights?

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I'll need to remember to search why they're actually looking to cut back.

[NatashaJ]

you know I never understood because in America its a woman's fundamental right to have abortions. Aren't these people damaging American women fundamental right and how come the government is not stepping in and saying No we will not close down planned parenthood. Hope they happy with more people in America. Then blame immigrants for no jobs even thou they let the population get bigger.

[Explore2016]

Planned parenthood yes but abortion no. You should plan when you have your family for sure and thankfully with todays modern contraceptives you can. Abortion is wrong and should never be used as a form of contraception. If you have sex while not on contraception you should accept the consequences if you get pregnant.

[SilenRose]

Lol, I've been standing for planned parenthood. Had there icon as my profile pic for two months now. ;)

[dudeman]

U like killing babies

[SilenRose]

@dudeman They aren't babies and you just like controlling other people.

[dudeman]

They are babies thats a science fact.

[SilenRose]

@dudeman I suggest you go and review your scientific facts.

[dudeman]

lol if you wish to remain ignorant on the subject that's your decision. it just makes you wrong.

[SilenRose]

@dudeman Same with you buddy. I hope you enjoy being blissfully ignorant. :)

[dudeman]

well seeing this is first semester biology and I do have a degree in the subject I am well versed on it.

[SilenRose]

@dudeman Says the internet troll. Come back once you've posted your graduation certificate and transcripts.

[melinanardelli]

@dudeman that's very ignorant of you.

[Dandeus]

People with degrees in science don't use terms like "That's a science fact" unless the degree is bought online from a fraudulent service.

[Minxxie]

@Dandeus I'm laughing so hard right now, sick burn! Seriously though I have had to study preserved zygotes and they are not babies by far, if you see one in real life you will understand. Anything past legal abortion looks like a baby, anything within the limit of legal abortion is very basic in it's structure. There is also no pain response that early in the gestational period, because the central nervous system is not formed enough for pain to be processed by the brain.

[SilenRose]

@Minxxie and @Dandeus Ahaha! Thank you!

[dudeman]

now why would I do anything like that. just because I am more educated then you and hold a different opinion based on science and logic makes you scared I know. maybe you are wrong, maybe you have been pushing for the murder of young human beings aka a baby. its a possibility that you don't even want to think of because gasp that would make you a bad person.

[dudeman]

@Dandeus well I can say that that is not true. in fact its used often in my circle.

[SilenRose]

@dudeman Please. Let us not talk about who is more intelligent. I let you slide on spelling, grammar, and word usage because I really don't care since everyone makes mistakes. However, if you wish to talk about who is more intelligent I will be more then happy to go through each of your response and correct you. As for proof of education, you are the one trying to make a point. Therefore it is up to you to show proof and evidence. If you are a biology major then you should have at least learned that much when writing research papers. "Different opinion"? Now you are back tracking. "They are babies thats a science fact", is what you originally stated. You believe your opinion (which it is just that) is a scientific fact. Now please get a life.

[dudeman]

this isn't a research paper this is the internet. also yeah grammar is for dumb dumbs

[JamielovesKU]

PP has also murdered innocent unborn children. I will NEVER support them!

[BelleGirl21]

Planned parenthood is in the business of performing abortions, not women's health. A huge majority of their business and profits comes from abortions. Why should I as a person opposed to the murder of innocent babies have to fund them?
There are plenty of clinics that women and girls can go to for reproductive health.

[Dandeus]

3% of their services are abortions. 3%. And since government money can't be spent on abortions, PP charges for abortion services. So you're not really funding abortions anyway, you're funding the other things they do.

[BelleGirl21]

www.redstate.com/.../

That 3% is a misleading lie @dandeus
It's actually somewhere between 12 to 55%.
And I don't think I should have to support any company even a penny if I'm morally opposed to their services.

[NatashaJ]

Regardless if you don't want to pay for these abortion have fun paying for most of these moms welfare checks since their right to abortion is taken away.

[BelleGirl21]

@natashaj well I don't consider welfare to be comparable to murder so no problem there.

[NatashaJ]

k you think its murder but if a woman chose not to be a mother good for her too many people on this planet and too many people don't know how to take care of a child because of abortion 50 to 80 million people are not on this planet. So women who are having abortions are doing a big favor specially if they know they can't afford a kid.

[BelleGirl21]

@natashaj or women could use some brains and or condoms and birth control. It is not difficult to not get pregnant. A little responsibility for their actions would be great. Nothing justifies murder. 50 to 80 murders... how tragic. What kind of amazing people did we lose out if those people? What kind of talent? What kind of intelligence? What kind of love?

[NatashaJ]

and defunding planned parenthood takes away birth control for women you know that right because its way cheaper to go to a clinic then a pharmacy or store. Doesn't seem fair that people like you want to screw over these women who want abortions when 1 your not the father 2 its not you who is raising this kid and 3 your not affect the most the women who having this kid will be not you. don't say adoption is a option when most people don't even adopt most people I met in school so far only 1 teacher I know adopted no one else. You wants all these babies to live but won't adopt them or help these women that much to take care of them and refuse to let them get a abortion because of your opinion is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

[NatashaJ]

Plus the right to abortion is consider a women fundamental right the fact that you want to take that right away is wrong as well.

[BelleGirl21]

@natashaj all I'm saying here is I shouldn't have to pay for something I'm morally against. Why should I have to pay for their poor judgement and lack of responsibility? And there are pleeeenty of places to get birth control. If they can't afford a box of condoms then maybe they aren't adult enough to be having sex.

[BelleGirl21]

Also my sister adopted a baby. My aunt adopted 2. My friend adopted 3. I'd love to adopt if my circumstances were different. Don't pretend you know what I'd do or want. The real solution us for women and men to use caution when having sex. It isn't that hard. @natashaj

[BelleGirl21]

And I think babies have a RIGHT to life. Who are you to take that away?

[NatashaJ]

I'm pretty sure in America they have to pay for it by themselves anyway so its not affecting you but typical capitalist mentality huh? only help yourselves when you could help others and society as a whole but nope just want cheap stuff for yourself nice.

[NatashaJ]

and the mother life is affect too and its not like your helping her most mothers have to take majority of the care of their children and who are you to say they have to be mothers when they don't want to?

[BelleGirl21]

@natashaj this question is regarding funding for planned parenthood who commits many abortions and sells the body parts or did you miss that? I'm not sure what that has to do with capitalism? I am morally against abortion. I don't think I should have to help fund this organization, how is that confusing?

[NatashaJ]

Fine don't help them but don't do every thing you can to take away their funding because the defunding in america you do know that planned parenthood had start turning women away in Canada they can't even help them because of pro lifers who do everything they can to destroy it but oh your helping the babies huh but look you are affecting women by doing this. Where is this evidence that they are selling body parts? if you know more about abortions the first couple of weeks of a abortion is usually around the 1st or 2nd month of the pregnancy and the fetus wouldn't even have body parts yet that much. Wow you listening to that crap pro lifers giving to you maybe doing some research and you see that in America those types of abortion don't happen. but who I am kidding you don't even know America is a capitalist country.

[BelleGirl21]

1. I never denied America was a capitalist country, it just has nothing to do with this argument 2. Canadian women should get abortions performed in Canada 3. Whether they sell body parts or not it's still murder. There is NO reason for a woman to make it into a 2nd or 3rd trimester. With all of the contraceptives and plan B its inconceivable that someone would let an unwanted pregnancy happen and definitely confusing they'd let it continue that long. @natashaj

[NatashaJ]

1. google search would be nice since there are planned parenthood locations in Canada. 2. its a fetus it would not feel anything no pain, have thoughts nothing like that because its just a fetus. 3. the only birth control that 100% will protect you is abstinence. there still chance of getting knock from a bad condom things happen but if people want to have a back up plan they should have a right to the fact you want to get defund abortion clinics across America because its not fair for American women.

[BelleGirl21]

1. Why should Americans pay for Canadian programs? 2. It's a human life. My nephew was born at 23 weeks. Saying they don't feel pain is the most idiotic argument. 3. Right... don't have sex if you aren't prepared for the consequences. Or at least use plan b. Seriously it's not hard. And MILLIONS of women don't get pregnant due to faulty birth control. Its due to selfishness and irresponsibility and I shouldn't have to support their lifestyle.

[BelleGirl21]

@natashaj

[NatashaJ]

1. I stay by my case that you really don't know what you talking about planned parenthood is a American company that expanding into Canada so if you defund a company in its main country then funds to other countries locations won't happen. Common sense 2. one not every single child will be born at 23 weeks he was special case that your sister or brother wanted to keep but maybe you should but out of people lives that have don't want you in. 3. seriously? there still a 50% of your birth control failing while using if that happens it happens and second you can just use plan B whatever you want it can cause blood clots and other things that can damage your body. and if a person wants to have sex its none of your business if a person wants to abort THEIR kid not YOUR kid its none of your business.

[BelleGirl21]

And if it's THEIR business I shouldn't have to pay for it. Is thus truly a difficult concept to understand? @natashaj

[NatashaJ]

Yeah well your not looking into the bigger picture all you care about is your taxes which there pretty cheap compare to Canada's (America's:6% Canada's:13%) but the problem with that 6% is not really doing that much benefits for the whole nation while Canada 13% is going into multiple things that benefits the whole nation (free abortion, free healthcare, welfare, pensions plans etc) if everyone getting these benefits then there wouldn't be a issue but you Americans can't get or understand that concept.

[BelleGirl21]

Lol I don't want to follow Canada's economic choices. What you have is completely unsustainable. It isn't working for Europe and it is going to fail in Canada too. And like I've said many times already, I'm MORALLY against abortion. Its not an economic decision for me @natashaj

[NatashaJ]

LOL and capitalism is working for America sorry but Canada doesn't have a 18 trillion debt Honey who does oh yeah you guys. Whatever you want to be dumb go ahead all American women who wants abortions can come over to Canada and pay to get it done. Peace.

[dudeman]

@Dandeus no taxes are funding abortion just because they have a nifty way to work the books doesn't mean that money is not going towards abortions.

[FakeName123]

@NatashaJ I find it hilarious how often modern progressives always directly or indirectly complain - even if its completely off-topic - about capitalism. It's just so incredibly predictable and plain stupid.