Would girls be OK if part of their clitoral hood was missing?

[Anonymous]

I get called a wimp or crybaby because I am insecure about being circumcizes..but the foreksin is basically the clitoral hood for males (dont deny this...they develop from the exact same organ in the womb..they are identical) So I'm wodnering if girls would be okay if part of their clitoral hood was missing. I still think (I hope so anway) that I can have a normal, decent sex life even though I'm missing my foreskin (I am goign to begin restoring..so it might get better but not to 100% its not the same thing)..I don't think I'm 100% ruined but I do feel handicapped and less of a man...i wodner how girls woudl feel if a simailr prcedure was done to them?

[samhradh_leannan]

If you are against circumcision, I completely respect that. But before you let your own lack of a foreskin ruin your life, remember that 140,000,000 girls and women worldwide are living with the consequences of female genital mutilation, a practice far more extreme and dangerous than regular male circumcision. Cutting off the entire clitoris and/ or labia, sewing the vagina and/ or labia shut, and slicing or cauterizing the genitals are common practices in many counties. This mutilation has severe health risks and NO health benefits (not the case with male circumcision), yet is frequently performed by quote- unquote "health care" providers. I hope that information will put your situation in perspective at least a little bit.

You have every right to be against circumcision, to wish that you were not circumcised, and to fight for the rights of others. I'm sorry that you're living with something you wouldn't have chosen for yourself and that you weren't given that choice. But it's time to reel in the drama and make the best of your situation. You are in no way handicapped or less of a man. Whether or not circumcision decreases sensation, it will not stop you from having an enjoyable sex life. I have never heard a circumcised man complain about bad sex, only about the emotional concerns caused by being circumcised. There is no reason why sex should be unsatisfactory for you or your partner. So learn to love your penis and be confident in who you are. What's done is done. Not having a foreskin won't ruin your life, but obsessing over it could.

[Asker]

male circ benefits are debatable...kind anonsense too...i mean if you cut off the entire penis you woudnt get ifnection there...just like ud never get athletes foot if you cut your toes off...it just doesn't add up. and yes I realzie fgm is worse (well most of it atleast). and again..its not that I'm cut...its that girls ARENT and I'm below them..they know theyr more itnact and bette than me and I can't sleep with someone who pities me..thats why id actually date a an fgm girl because I wouldn feel inferior

[samhradh_leannan]

The health benefits of male circumcision may be debatable, but there are definitely strong indications that they exist. That doesn't necessarily justify circumcision, but it does explain why many people choose it for their sons, and why it isn't always viewed as a negative thing. Try to understand that your parents, right or wrong, thought they were making a good decision. It's not unusual to be circumcised (in the U.S. anyway) and people will not judge you for it. There's no reason to feel

[samhradh_leannan]

inferior to girls who are intact. The vast majority of girls won't pity you, and some will even enjoy sleeping with you more because you are. YOU are the one who pities you. YOU are the one who sees you as inferior. YOU are the one who gives a crap whether or not you have a foreskin. So don't feel inferior to girls, and don't worry about what they will think. You're only getting in the way of your own happiness by doing so. This inferiority concept is in your head, not ours. Remember that.

[Asker]

thats easy for girls not to feel bad...they get to feel all the pleasure their bodies are meant to..but I'm not and not to mention sex can be aorse for women with cut guys..there is studies that show that too...guys taking foerver to cum, extreely hard painful grinding and scrapping because the penis is de-senstized and it has ot skin to creat a smooth gliding action..i bet a lot of issues girls think are normal are due to circ...plus...women should pity me? why wouldn't they..their gentials

[Asker]

are intact..meaning BETTER than mine...i don't get why they wouldn't pity me? or alteast understand that they SHOULD or CAN?

[samhradh_leannan]

Regardless of what our bodies are meant to do, women have trouble reaching orgasm far more often than men do. Yes, men can struggle with it too, and it may occasionally be caused by circumcision. But if the majority of circumcised men are regularly unsatisfied by sex or frequently have trouble reaching orgasm, that will be news to me. And most women aren't in the mindset of pitying circumcised men. In places where circumcision is common, it's not given a lot of thought either way.

[Asker]

that just means the girlts are ignorant of its..its still a fact..and like I said I would only date anti-circ girls...because I would never father a son with someone who would cut him..and all the pro-intact girls know that I'm inferior

[samhradh_leannan]

What you don't realize is there are tons of girls- probably the majority- who could go either way. Just because a girl doesn't care that you're circumcised doesn't mean she will insist on circumcising your son. If you choose to view that as ignorant, then feel free to have a hard time finding a partner. My sympathy is running out. By the way, the possible health benefits of circumcision go way beyond preventing problems with the foreskin. Circumcision has been shown to reduce the risk of

[samhradh_leannan]

penile cancer, HIV, and urinary tract infections. And no, nothing is certain. But those are some big ones, and I'm sure you can see why many people are under the impression that it's safer to circumcise.

[Asker]

HIV is acutally not well established at all..infact circ men in some countries have been found MORE likely.besides..if you cut my whole d*** off I wouldn't hiv either! you act like I plan on sleeping with a bunch of girls that might have hiv and wanna make it less liekly ill get it (like that would protect me anway) and thsoe infections can't be cured and avoided if you clean regualrly...no medical associations reccommend circ...not one...they realize its not jsufiied at all.

[musicbrain5]

I'm just going to say that female circumcision is often WAY, WAY different than male circumcision. It often goes as far as female genital mutilation, where the clitoris is completely removed and the urethra and vagina are crudely sewn shut so the girl cannot have proper periods or even PEE properly, both of which will lead to serious or fatal infections. Not to mention the fact that it happens when the girl is like 12 or 13, and they still don't get a say in what happens to their bodies.

Of course you can have a normal sex life. There are millions of men around the world who are circumcised and they get along in life just fine. Being circumcised is not going to stop you from having great sex or being able to reproduce normally (they didn't cut your balls off did they) or any of that. The only thing that will stop you from fully enjoying sex is a NEGATIVE ATTITUDE, both about your own body and how you think sex will be like.

So, stop bitching about this like a baby, think positive about you, your body, and your penis, and your life will be so much better. I don't agree with the practice of circumcision at all either, but what I hate even more is men who think they are "damaged" and "no longer a man" or who are all "oh woe is me" about the fact that they were circumcised as a baby. It's totally unattractive and I just want to say GET THE F*** OVER IT.

[Jaleel]

horrible, funny and made me laugh, but true all at the same time. I'm circumcised and it doesn't bother me lmao. I don't know why people almost have a heart attack over this xD

[samhradh_leannan]

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[Asker]

Circ DOES cause sex problems...and it makes snesitivity WAY WAY worse...and again..if you read above...i am not aruging fgm is worse...but my bottomline is NO girls are cut..every single girl that is not mutilated (unless theyre immigrants...almsost NO girls in America have been cut) and gets all the pleasure she was meant to...which is more than me...and I can not be in relationship with someone that pities me or who I am sexually inferior to.

[Asker]

Also..how cna say circ is not "damagin" I lost 16,000 nerve ednigns and only have 4,000 left...to put that in perspective..my glans is expsoed and has been damaged and will continue to get damaged unless I restore (which I am working on) restoraiton brings sensitivity back to the head but will not bring back any nerve endings...

[musicbrain5]

A lot of women will go their whole lives without having a proper orgasm, did you know that? So you can't say that all women get all the pleasure that they were meant to have, or whatever. You never argued that FGM is worse. I was the one who stated that it was worse - after learning about FGM you should have NOTHING to bitch about. At least you can still pee properly. How is sex for you anyways? Do you just not feel anything? How do you know any different?

[Asker]

do that many? why would these women bother having sex then if they don't get anything out of it that's really sad. I don't know a lot abou FGM and male circ...id have to aska biologst but yes the extreme FGM's are definitely worse. by the way why does girls ina frica being abused suppsed to make me feel better when all the girls over here are intact.? sry it doesn't. And also ima virign but I cna tell my head feels not really snesitive...i get all my pleasure from the skin on my shaft rubbing on things..

[Asker]

i also kind ahave ocd and take long showers sometiems and I wash my penis heavily with soap..ive been thinking maybe I should find some cetaphil or mild soap to use on it..but also I read restoring reverse the kerantinization and even makes the old callous skin wear off...so hoepfully I get my head more sensitive...i have a lot of loose skin on my shaft though..from what I've read I might even have some remainder of my foreksin left..so my shaft is where I feel most of the pleasure.

[musicbrain5]

Having sex isn't just about orgasms you know.

[Asker]

its the finale..its the whole reason you spend any time having sex...

[kysalle]

Would you say think positive and get the f**k over it to a girl with body image issues, I bet you wouldn't.

[EverythingReal]

Female circumcision usually happens around age 13, very different. And it is hard to remove the clitoral hood without removing the whole clitoris, so typically the whole clitoris (and usually parts of labia/vulva) are removed in the process. A very different process. It is not only extremely painful, but there is no pleasure to be had in sex or masturbation whatsoever. Unlike male circumcision. The healing process is also very painful and makes urinating difficult. The clitoral hood is connected to the lips, it's not just on the clitoris.

Also, the clitoral hood is protection for the clitoris (the clitoris is extremely sensitive, I believe something like 10x more nerve endings than the head of a penis), which would make any sort of contact with it (given that one was able to remove just the hood) very painful.

Even though that they develop from the same organ, they are completely different in this aspect. I am sorry you are insecure about being circumcised. Could be worse, they could remove the penis in it's entirety. Look on the bright side, you're alive, and the sun will still rise tomorrow.

If I got my hood removed I'd probably learn to live with it. Probably wouldn't be able to have sex though due to the pain. But sex isn't everything. I'd rather have love.

[Asker]

"you're alive, and the sun will still rise tomorrow. " that's what I amafraid I wish I was dead...all I want outt life is a wife I cna have a full relaitonshipw itha nc hdilren..i know I can't have that now and every second I spend realizing kills me...im too cowardly to kill myself thought..the act of sitting down and trying to do it and coneie of it is nerve racking but I sometimes just hope sometthing will isntnatly take me randomly..like a car aaccident.

[EverythingReal]

Listen. Women love penises. Just as many women love cut as they love uncut penises, most women would be happy if you just had a penis. You can have a full relationship. You still feel pleasure. Sure, it's not the same as it would be with foreskin, but you still get PLENTY of pleasure, and a woman would still love to pleasure you. You can have children, you can not get your child circumcised and join the movement against it.

[Asker]

the ones that love cut are selfish though..they only like it because it looks good to them...they don't care that it makes sex a lot worse for the man. and newayz...the thing is..i wouldn't date a girl that's likes cut because if we ever had kids she might wanna cut our son...and IF I dated an anti-circ girl then she's know the truth..and she will pity me and know how damaged I am and I can't have a girl ptying me on the bedroom..i can't have sex with someone who does that..it will not work out.

[musicbrain5]

Well with that logic QA, you won't be dating anybody at all, therefore no sex. So you have nothing to worry about.

[Asker]

thats my point...i want to but I can't even get aroused with a girl that ptiies me and looks down on me...its because I'm circed and you expect me to just be happy being inferior and ptiied?

[EverythingReal]

A girl can be anti-circ and not pity you. She can understand that it was not your choice, and bond with you over the same opinion on the matter. And the majority of girls are indifferent on circumcision, so you could date a girl who didn't mind you being cut, without wanting to cut your child. I mean, they wouldn't know if you were cut or not by meeting you, thus they really wouldn't care.

[Asker]

i just don't get how you couldn't pity someone? knwoing they feel less pleasure than you.

[EverythingReal]

The majority of the American male population is circumcised, that'd be a lot of pitying to do. Also, the majority of women don't orgasm from intercourse, so I don't see how I'm feeling less pleasure than them. I'm dating a circumcised male, he has plenty of pleasure in our sex life, we do not plan to circumcise a baby if we have any (so that they can make the choice for themselves). I do not pity him at all.

[Asker]

women might not orgasm from intercourse...but they do orgasm...they cna get off on other things...a circ guy still can't feel as much pleasure...and I think you should pity him..its only natural..hes misisng part of his penis...wouldnt a guy pioty you if he had aprt of your sex organs cut out and got less pleasure?

[EverythingReal]

I don't pity him at all. Correct, girls orgasm. But so do cut guys, and actually, they orgasm from sex too! Should you pity me for not being able to orgasm from sex? No! Because I can find pleasure elsewhere. YOU can still find pleasure too! You just have poor self esteem and some grudge you need to get rid of. Look into counseling and therapy departments to help get over your self-pity problem, they really help

[Asker]

idk...its not something I really wanna talk about with a counselor...but also my point was that girls not only orgasm..they orgasm BETTER because they are not cut...thats why I'm saying they would pity me.

[EverythingReal]

No, the orgasm is the same. Your orgasm is the same as an uncut guy. Same exact thing.

[Asker]

not true...the uncut guy has 3 times as many nerve e dnigns and by the way iv eheard from guys that got cut ina dulthood and know the difference they say often that they loose around half of the sensation...less in other more in others...etc...and not to mention mine could be calloused to the piint where I have to rub really hard to get off...sometimes harder than a girls body can stand or allow...and so I might not even be able to orgasm.

[EverythingReal]

3 times as many NERVE ENDINGS. That only has to do with reaching the orgasm, not the orgasm itself. Cut guys usually enjoy oral and intercourse more, and handjobs less. There's a guy here on gag who got circumcised a few years ago who even said so. It's ridiculous to assume your penis will be calloused, I have NEVER come in contact with that.

[Asker]

i think it definitely has to do with the orgasm...u don't feel it in as many places... and I don't know about that...i don't feel much snesation in my head (why I'm tryong to restore...it can help my head atelast)..me getting off all depends on my shat...a handjob would undoublty work better for me//but during interocurse...i don't know how I can get off inside a girl when there isn't any friction...atleast not enough probably...and I don't mean like hardcore calloused like feet...its a medical fact though

[Asker]

that the head gaisn alyers of calloused skin...google keratinization...and also if you look at picutre sof cut vs uncut guys.u cna see the difference.

[EverythingReal]

Orgasms have to do with muscle contractions, not nerves. True story. It's just as intense as it would be with foreskin. Sorry.

[Asker]

source?

[EverythingReal]

Sex ed, freshman year

[Asker]

the bottonline is that pleasure and orgasm aren't the same thing.

[Anonymous]

That's because you ARE a crybaby.

Try to understand this : Grown men, who have had sex as uncut, and then been circumcised, and had sex as a cut, can TELL YOU FROM BOTH SIDES THAT THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO DIFFERENCE.

So yeah, anyone still weeping over it like a little baby, is a crybaby.

If you feel handicapped, it's your own mental f***up to bear.

[Asker]

1)many men complain that circ did cause sex to feel worse... 2) those men that say it doesn't make a difference JUST recently got cut...when you get cut at birth...ur glans are expsied and get calloused and damaged over the years..

[Opinion Owner]

You're repeating the same bullsh*t as always... The men who say it made no difference are not just recently cut. We have at least one on this board for example. Stop talking through your arse and repeating the myths of the rabid anti-circ cry babies, and talk to some real people for a change.

[Asker]

how does he know then? if he was cut as a baby then he can't compare it anyway?

[Opinion Owner]

They were cut years ago. As adults. After having sex. How hard is this to follow, seriously?

[Asker]

theres difference in opinion..and by the way how amyn years? beign cut as a baby and having it dry out for 25 years I s different than gettint cut at 16 and being 20 now.

[Opinion Owner]

You are such a whiner, facts just won't penetrate your thick head...

[Andrew74]

Your penis doesn't f***ing dry out.

[Asker]

just google dekaratinization...yes it does.

[Andrew74]

You're f***ing stupid. I have had a great sex life and I'm circumcised girls don't find an uncircumcised penis attractive or a circumcised penis attractive you're insecurity is morer than foreskin deep

[Asker]

u don't realize what your miisisng...just know 80% of men in the world feel over 3 times what you do...

[leximarie]

Well I think it is different because removing the foresking DECREASES the stimulation the male gets, whereas if my clitoral hood were removed it would be to excruciating to even touch because of all the concentrated nerves there and no barrier between them. Without your foreskin you can still touch your d*** and the tip of your penis, without the hood I couldn't touch my clitoris at all ( I'm not saying that it is worse for either males or female or that male circumcision isn't damaging to sensitivity because I think it is)

[Asker]

hmmm I didn't know that...i don't think it would callous up and be oaky evnetually? africna girls ahve it done and I'm not saying its okay but they seem to still have sex and stuff...but anways I just wanted to know how bad it really is I guess...baby girls are proetected from parent shwo wanna cut their gneitals but guys arent...i wondered if I really should feel bad about my body or if its just something ufnrotuante but not a huge ordeal.

[peace-love-couture]

Actually, the women have to have it surgically removed or they cut it open manually. My best friend works with an African-American woman who had it done when she hit puberty. She didn't remember it and when she came to America and met her fiance and they tried to have sex, it was impossible. She had to have it surgically corrected You can't compare female genital mutilation to circumcision. Guys can have sex and still enjoy it. Cutting off the clit and sewing up the vagina is different

[leximarie]

no no, in cultures where they practice female genital mutilation the WHOLE THING is removed and so the girl can't orgasm at all.ever. that is the difference I don't think it would callous eventually I probably just wouldn't touch it or let anyone else touch it, or somehow find a way to decrease the sensitivity. Those girls have sex because they have to, they don;t have a choice, sex for them is about having babies and nothing else, they don't do it for enjoyment because they cant

[Asker]

peace: the penis loose 16,000 of only 20,000 nerve edngins and those nerve endings are major pelasure receptos comapred to the others..plus since the head is expsoed it dries otua nd calllouses...causing it to be desensitized...its devastating to the penis...it makes me wanna cry and be celibate wehn it hinka bout...idk if its worse than all forms of fgm or if those are comaprable but it is a big deal...i can tell you because I've been suicidal when I found out about it.

[peace-love-couture]

If this is true, why do so many guys continue to have and enjoy sex? And you've been suicidal because you're a certified dumbass

[leximarie]

i think pcl has really summed it all up

[Asker]

i think its sucz theyre ignroant or brainwashe dot be oaky with it..a man cut at birth doenst knwo how bad he's got it...some men who get cut later have said theyve lsot sensaton and say sex is worse...althoguht I guess it can debated if it pyschological...and exacuse me..who are you to judge me...u have all your genitals intact...geez you women geta ll up in arms when men wanna keep you from controlling your own body but you expect me to be aoky with aprt of me penis being choopped off? really?

[Asker]

it makes me furious...women like you just cut off your baby penis jsut becuase owmen think it lookes better...i hate my mom for what she did...i live with my rents now and she doesn't realzie it but when I move out..shes otta my life for good...along with my dad..

[leximarie]

so...you are gonna cut your parents completely out of your life over a procedure which slightly decreased sensation? you can still orgasm and have sex and maintain an erection...but you are going to destroy a relationship with the people who took care of an provided for you your whole life? and you don't think you sound irrational or off base? that is ridiculous and you are making yourself sound worse. men without foreskin can still orgasm and have sex WOMEN CANNOT that is the difference

[Asker]

Slightly? OH NO...majorly...and in turn..it ruine my chance at a good sex life and therfore a chance at a family and happiness..my mom would have been better off aborting me. and idunno if can orgasm or ahve sex..i ahvne yet..but I can't tell you I know I'm not sensitive at all down there...i have a ahrd tiem believeing I could ever even get off from sex...if I touch myself I have to stroke fast and hard to get it to go..a girls body canty do that

[Asker]

and again..maybe your right and the two aren't comparable..but that doesn't make male circ okay...and it doesn't chancge the fact that my parents ruined my life...so yes...and I hope it causes them pain...they deserve worse than emotional pain...but msot of all they disgust me and I don't wanna see them anymore is the main thing even if they don't care about me not being in their lives.

[peace-love-couture]

If you're between the ages of 18 & 24 and you're still stuck on circumcision(which you can't even compare before and after), then you've got bigger issues and need to seek therapy. Get over it; how do millions of men manage to not complain about this but you continue to make these retarded posts with your God awful spelling/grammar?

[Asker]

btw if your dad took care of and raise he..fed you etc...BUT he raped you or abused you...would it be fair to ask you to jsut overlook it and have him in your life...well my parents did WORse..i wish I was jsut beaten or abused...thouse wound heal and aouldnt harm my ability ot have a full sex life later in life...they permanently removed my body and took away part of my penis...i definftely hat ethema nd want the out of my life...heck id like to see them die.

[leximarie]

you really do need help, if you think your DICK is worth throwing away your rents, and that your lack of sensitivity rules your life you are seriously disallusioned and as pcl said you need to seek therapy, the problem is that you feel emasculated

[Asker]

the status of my d*** affects my life and happiness...do you realize I don't give a sh*t about my job or education etc...i only do it because I want a wife and family and I can't have that now because I know I have an inferior mutialted sex organ thatd I never feel good about using?and yes..damn right I feel emasculated .part of my penis is missng and I'm an inferior mutialted freak because of it...and what a thrpesit gonna do "Calm down about being sexually mutilated" they just want money..screw it

[leximarie]

WAIT WAIT WAIT you think being circumcised is worse than being raped and abused by your FATHER? ARE YOU F***ING KIDDING ME? I was willing to listen to you before, but now I know you are insane and out of touch DO NOT compare those thing, they ARE NOT comparable gtfo and get on with your life. If you don't think being raped by your parent would affect your sex life you are dumber than you sound, which is pretty dumb, you are f***ing nuts. seriously GET HELP...you are really just...i cant

[leximarie]

YOU CAN STILL HAVE A WIFE AND FAMILY

[Asker]

YES...i can heosntly tell you id rather be raped...heck...if I could be raped right now and in exhange my forsekin would grow back...id be thrilled about it...i can get over abuse..the scars would heal...or at least become mangeable...its my penis not working and not being able to enter into a full relatiosnhip EVER...thats killes me...btw...ur showing how SEXIST you are...u think girls problems are lways worse and since your genitals will never be harmed or permanently ruined...u can empathize.

[Asker]

I can have a wif ena d amiyl..but only if I somehow become okay will sleeping with a woman whos superior to me in the bedroom...and have her ptiy me...and know she's better than me and intact and whole and I'm not...sorry can't do it...and this isn't my failing...if I parents would have just left my penis alone...id feel fine and be equal with any sexul parnter I'm with...but I will not be a ptiied mutilated freak in a relationship.

[leximarie]

you are crazy...Im done with this conversation..Im sexist because I think being raped by your father is worse than being circumcised? right, I will make sure to take that down. You clearly lack an understanding of rape and abuse and the subsequent effects. You are seriously out of touch and I really hope you get the help you clearly need. I never said female problems were worse, I said that the circumcision between males and females wasn't the same, You understand malecircumcision is detrimental

[Asker]

raped girls still recover and have fuls ex lives with their itnact gentials. I PHYSICALLY can not ever do that...my foreskin is gone for good...ill never have a full sex life...thats the reality...and you wanna lecture me about how its no big deal while your gneitlas have never been touched with a knife...u have no right to tell me how tio feel about it.

[leximarie]

* I understand that

[leximarie]

raped people don't have full sex lives, you do. Your's is perfectly fine, only you are messing with it you are insane, I'm sorry you feel so wronged, goodbye and have a nice life...oh wait you can't because you are circumcised and apparently that is everything to you

[Asker]

i jus don't see how you cna tell me to have a normal sex life...how would you like it if EVERY guy was intact and you werent and you knew he got WAY more pelasure than you and you also probably couldn't perform as well as other girls who got spared from being cut?

[leximarie]

guys with foreskin do have more nerve endings than females...doesn't mean my orgasms aren't as intense or special, I don't even think I can orgasm from vaginal sex unless my clitoris is stimulated, does that bother me? sure sometimes, but I can have orgasms and damn good ones, so what if I have pay special attention to my clitoris or go out of the way to play with it. OH WELL at least I can have them, I just move on with my life, its not that big of a deal

[hannabbanana]

you ARE wrong. raped girls do not always have good perfect sex lives. Very few girls after being raped and abused will have a normal sex life. A lot of them suffer from mental diseases such as PTSD or anxiety. They also usually have poor self esteem and may develop substance abuse problems. Some may even take their lives. Look up stories and try to tell me that all rape victims lead perfectly normal sex lives.

[Asker]

Well guess what...i don't have a foreskin..so...i do have less nerve endings and guys are expected to get off isndie a girl and I don't know if I cna honestly..i might be too damaged.

[leximarie]

EXACTLY,same goes for male rape victims/victims of abuse

[Asker]

hana: those are mental..and are fixeable..girls have gotten over ptds and anxiety..not one single man had ever regrown his foreskin...it not pretty obviously but I'm telling you id rather be raped than circumcized because at least there's a CHANCE id recover..there is no hope for every getting my penis whole again.

[leximarie]

whatever man, good luck to you

[Asker]

i don't get why that doesn't make sense...do you know hats it liek to know ull nbever get aprt of your body back and that ull never have the one thing in life you need to be sane? (as in marriage or a family)...i don't believe in luck, that it would be able to help if I did.

[hannabbanana]

haha ptsd fixeable? try telling that to the girl who was raped and has nightmares every night and can't hold a stable relationship because she relives the moment every time she tries to have sex. You're an idiot

[Asker]

i know girls who got raped and are now married and having sex with their hsubnads and have kids..etc...now..show me a man who regrew his foreskin and ill believe u.

[hannabbanana]

i know men who were circumcised and are now married with kids

[Asker]

theydont know what was done to them..ignorance is bliss...and their wives if they are eduacted pity them secretly if they know the truth..i can have that I'm not having any woman pity me...im not gona f*** someone that looks down on me

[hannabbanana]

im educated and I don't pity circumsised men. I'm sure they are fully aware of what happened to them and they probably choose to live with it instead of being a big baby and whining about it.

[Asker]

htey ahve no idea that they get maybe aone third of the pelasure that almsot all other men do...excuse me but when your gnetials are cut and your sexual pleasure reduced by one third...then you cna jduge me about about being upset about it...and you shoudl poity circ men..u realize they will never feel the same palsreu as you...not even close.

[hannabbanana]

Instead of whining about it on the internet-do something about it. Try that foreskin restoration you are always talking about, or join an anti-circ group to speak out for those who can't. You're right saying you'll never get your foreskin back-so stop complaining. No matter how much you whine and make ignorant comments, it's not going to bring back your foreskin and from the looks of it it's not making you feel better either by the looks of it. You also might benefit from joining a support group

[Asker]

restoration doesn't bring everything back..not evne close...its just keeps the he'd from srying out and maybe restore s bit of snensitvity to the head...all thsoe nerve endings are lost forever. and joing an anti-circ groupd won't do jack sh*t for me.and actually seeing my mom cry and get hysterical because he son ahtes her and told he hopes she dies will make me feel a bit better causing suffering to the person who ruined my life is the only thing I can really do...acitivism won't help ME.

[hannabbanana]

Nothing will help you. Have fun leading a miserable life full of hatred and no sex.

[Asker]

ur damn right...cuz my foreksin is gone..if someone cut off your se organs you might be that way too...dont act like its my fauly..its my **** of a mothers fault.

[hannabbanana]

No its your fault.

[Asker]

i don't see how...if my mom left my penis alone id be aconfident happy normal boy and wouldn't hav eany resevations about sex.

[hannabbanana]

Well I guess you'll never know? Now will you.

[leximarie]

honey honey HONEY stop arguing with this fool, I had to give it up a long time ago, he's delusopna; and f***ing insane, he thinks women looks down on guys who are circumcised even though there are good bit of women who prefer their men to be, he is not worth wasting time over, I agree with you completely rape is HORRIBLE and for him to compare it to...circumcision is upsetting, My best friend had to leave college after being raped because her anxiety was so bad, so really I get you

[leximarie]

*delusional

[Asker]

thanks for laguhin about a baby being sexually mutilated hanna...and its easy for you women to tell me "man up" if your misisng a sex organ and about about 2/3 of gth nerve endings you need for sex...and us men were perfect and intact and told you to just deal with it...my god wed never hear the ends of it and the feminists would be causing a huge fuss about it.

[leximarie]

you're insane and your grammar/spelling is utterly atrocious

[Asker]

u just joked about circumcision which is just a nice term for genital mutilation...its just the culture you grow up in thinks its normal just like the girls in africa that are cut up..everyone considers them normal.

[leximarie]

ok

[Asker]

that was all I was saying

[leximarie]

im saying OK so I don't have to deal with you anymore not because I agree

[Asker]

fine...u just wanna hold contradictory ideas you go right ahead.

[leximarie]

okay

[samhradh_leannan]

To answer your actual question, no, I would not feel okay about my clitoral hood being removed. However, that doesn't mean I would feel like less of a woman or let it ruin my life.

[Asker]

ok...maybe you wouldn't feel that way but I bet many women would...and it would make them feel worse if every man was 100% intact and she was sexuall below them.

[samhradh_leannan]

I honestly doubt that very many women would feel like less of a woman because of that. They may have many negative emotions about it, and justifiably so, but there's no reason to feel like less of a woman or man because you lack one flap of skin.

[Asker]

its not just one flap of skin...its thousands of nerve endings and it also is protection for the head...basically half of my pleasure is missing (ive heard guys cut as adults say they lost 40% of their sensation)...in all honestly its the fact that girls are itnact and I'm not which bother me..if boths exes got cut I wouldn't worry about feeling inferior.

[samhradh_leannan]

It's not your brain or your heart or even a limb. It's a flap of skin. Yes, it's important, and yes, you have the right to miss it. But it's not something that has a major impact on your life as a whole in the first place. It does NOT make you less of a man, or inferior to girls or uncircumcised men. There's no reason to see it that way. If you're missing out of 40% of sensation (that's also debatable), that sucks, but you don't know the difference anyway. Sex will still feel good to you. If you

[samhradh_leannan]

are so hung up on how much pleasure you will feel during sex that it's giving you a complex, then frankly I think you are a little too much of a hedonist. Sex will still be satisfying to you, and there are so many other ways to get enjoyment out of life. Many people don't have even that much. Letting this ruin your life and affect your self esteem is, to be absolutely blunt, pathetic and greedy. I don't say that to judge you, but to let you know honestly how this excessive concern appears to

[samhradh_leannan]

others. I absolutely understand your objection to circumcision from an ethical viewpoint, and I think that's a strong and positive position to take on the matter and you should pursue action. However, letting your own circumcision affect your life to this extent is completely negative and unproductive. If you have any interest in creating a more positive future, you need to accept your body the way it is and stop viewing yourself as inferior or incomplete. You're not. You're just one more

[samhradh_leannan]

struggling, complicated, imperfect human.

[Asker]

i do know the difference can I know I coudl be feeling 2 times what I am...and I'm still not geting u.if I feel less pelasure...like you even admit..how am I not inferior tio a girl of circumcized guy? they are more full sexual beings and I'm not. and also I wanna know why I'm being greedy? I just wanna be equal to a girl I sleep with...the only way I can is to find a girl that's had fgm done to her...and I'm actually thought about it but there's hardly any girls like that in America.

[Asker]

i know we all struggle with some things...but I can change this...im working on restoring actually but that won't get it all back...cant regrow the nerve endings..ill just have the skin and protection back...and ill believe I'm not inferior if intactists stop telling me I am...but I know theyre right...all anti-curc women..who are the only ones I wanna date...KNOW I'm inferior...otherwise why oppose circ? if it didn't make me a mutilated freao why even care about it?

[samhradh_leannan]

First of all, I did not admit anything. I pointed out that the concept was debatable. Second, sex is not perfect for anyone. No one is satisfied 100% of the time, and lots of people of both genders have disorders and struggles for all sorts of reasons. Many women never have an orgasm in their entire life. I just don't think you're putting your concerns in perspective at all.

[Asker]

women have to have orgasms how can they not? and besides I wouldn't be with one that wouldn't have one anway..why would she ever even wanna have any sex at all then? some girls need extra sitmuation but they still get to have orgamss and they will be better than mine because they have their entire body.

[samhradh_leannan]

"women have to have orgasms how can they not?" What the heck kind of comment is that? Are you aware of ANY problems other than your own? Do you really think that a person's capacity for pleasure is what makes them worthwhile to be with? You know what, I'm done here. You are one messed up fellow, and there's clearly nothing I can do about it. If a guy who wouldn't be with a girl because she can't orgasm has trouble finding a partner, that's not my top priority of problems to solve.

[Asker]

wellyes women can have issues...but its not like someoen cut part of her body out and its ruined and 100% incapable..some girls just need the right stimualtion etc...its not like the stuff that causes their orgamss is missing like me...and also theyre vagian doesn't get dried out and desensitized...and anwayz I think you msiunderstood...id actualyl LIKE to be witha girl who has issues with orgasming as long as she still wanted sex...and id be with somoen who felt less intesne orgasms. THATD

[Asker]

BE GREAT..because that girl I could relate to and feel equal to..and she wouldn't pity me.

[stillagoodgirl]

Well I don't look at other girls so id think my was normal if I hadd it done at childbirth and my parents expected me to know..but as long as I can have children naturally I don't care.

[Asker]

u woudlnt care about sex at all? what if viturlaly all boys had itnact sex organs and you didn't and you knew that you received much less pleasure than them? because that's the boat I am in.

[stillagoodgirl]

No I wouldn't care

[Asker]

well I dot think you cna aimgine it...u look down and know your gneitals are damged goods and every man isn intact and you are not..ur an inferior specimen in the bedrooma dn something to be pitied whehter you admit it or not...thats th reality I live in.

[Anonymous]

Oh my god how can you even spell so bad in your answers?

[leximarie]

right?! hahaha his grammar skills are non-existent

[musicbrain5]

lol

[Asker]

u don't need to talk to me.

[Opinion Owner]

Also, I'm sorry, but you have psychological issues connected to circumcision and should really seek counseling.

[Asker]

i don't think itll help...i think how I feel is the natural reaction to what was done to me and taken from me.

[Opinion Owner]

And a psychologist is trained to help you with your natural feelings towards what happens in life. That's what counseling is. I really suggest you see one