A great thought came to me due to a Mr Anonymous from my previous take of women getting sex much easier. (https://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a21819-real-life-examples-of-how-women-utterly-annihilate-men-in-the-sex )
People generally complain that male sluts are regarded as “legends”, “hero’s”, “the man” and female sluts as “easy”, “loose”, “bear with wide canyon ha ha” etc. Basically, hooray for male sluts and boo-hoo for female sluts. This seems unfair. But…there is a hint of truth to it:
Again, I am all for both female and male sluts, BUT the reality is a girl can get sex so bloody easy versus a guy, that a guy deserves to be called a “legend” when he gets it. Any moderate-to-hot looking girl just has to be cool and spread her legs. Done.
Men…well I don’t have to harp on about the challenges men face. Notwithstanding all the hoops men have to jump to win her heart (the usual checklist of having confidence, being well dressed, playing that fine line between nice and cocky, having some sort of humor, being cool, assertive, fun, saying the right things, timing, etc) men also have to outdo their male brothers who are going for the girls. Men have to “compete” and women are simply the choosers of who wins the competition. So yes, those few guys who do this well are damn legends and hero’s because they have somehow mastered something that the greatest of scientists could never get (need I remind everyone that Nicola Tesla died a virgin ha ha).
Whereas for a girl…it is easy. It’s like…just do your thing, be cool, and men will hit on you (or crush on you at least). Yes, some girls may have to gym and eat healthy, but that’s piss easy and guys have to do this too in the looks department. So I wouldn’t say a girl has to be “easy” in the sense that she will just sleep with whoever, but she has a far smoother and better road of choosing the type of guy she wants. And she at least has options. Even if she is introverted or shy, she just puts up an online profile and gets requests. Guys don’t have this privilege at all. To me a “Female Player” cannot exist, as any girl can do this successfully if she wants, and there is no “game”, it just is. Men have to play the game.
So in that sense, yes, generally men who manage to get lots of girls deserve their credit, because they can do wondrous things, whereas women who get sex…it’s like meh, whatever, nothing special to see here folks.
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18 8I've personally known many guys who get lots of girls and don't try especially hard. Including some who were average and below average in looks, wealth, intelligence, etc... (though generally they were sleeping with partners of the same looks range). The "fat chicks" guys gripe on are usually sleeping with fat or less attractive guys, by the way, A few who have really pretty faces or are very bubbly may sleep with other guys, but it's not the norm.
I think guys online overestimate some things:
a) how often really hot guys want to sleep with average or below girls
b) Top 20% What does that even men? Of all the men in the world? The statistic is totally made up or only movie stars, pro athletes, musicians, etc would get laid.
c) Nikola Tesla likely could have married easily in his prime, but he had a quality of finding criticism and only seeking the ideal (an imaginary/impossible one, at that) that probably helped him scientifically, but also led him to idealize eugenics, for example.)
I'm not saying the mansosphere thinking is completely without a kernel of biological truth, just that it's very exaggerated. Men desire casual sex more than women do, that's a fact for various reasons. But "most guys'" inability to get sex or attention whatsoever is largely a myth.
What I do notice, is that dating/mating requires a social element that more guys than gals have trouble grasping (though some gals lack it too, I have an anime-obsessed, cosplay type cousin who fits the bill). I think it's due to the differences in the male and female brains. And even then, the guys could possibly get more sex than they realize (my cousin, for example had a huge crush on this similar guy to her but somehow they didn't manage to make it come to fruition).
The issues is that these guys tend to only socialize with each other, both in person and online, so they don't necessarily learn any new habits and often blame others for their lack of success and make it out like an insurmountable hurdle. So nothing gets changed.
I have sympathy for these guys, because I've known many who were fairly cool dudes with this socialization issue (my last boyfriend was an EE). I think it'd be better if there were resources outside of PUA style crap that is just manufactored to cash in on guys' hopes and fears, though.
PUA is the only hope for men. Saved me from the depths of virginity. Im not blaming anyone, Im not an online person. I am a relationship manager, do boxing, gym, music, and am always out. Bottom line, women get it easier.
1% of men can knock up 100% of women, so female sexual worth is far higher than males see bateman's principle that's all that needs to be known a 1000:1 reproduction fitness ratio, 99%of men are superfluous to reproduction, sex is and will always be the female genders biggest asset and advantage
More PUA style advice could be actually helpful, is what I'm saying. The same goes for all "How to catch a man." crap. Or the "how to overcome fear of public speaking" or "how to lose weight fast" junk for that matter. The amount of truly helpful information out there compared to the crap is disappointing. Women may have an advantage towards getting causal sex (that we're not wired to want as much, for that matter), but that doesn't mean that no men (including average ones) ever get laid. It's not an all or nothing proposition.
The men saying "chicks are only worth sex and men can't get it cuz science," are like the women who cling to the fact that women tend to have lower metabolisms and higher body fat as an excuse for why they're vastly overweight, rather than making changes. Is it harder for women to stay fit - yes, slightly. Does that mean doing nothing or actually hindering your progress is the best plan of action. Definitely not.
Fuck science, or sociology, or evolution or any of that. Humanity can choose. My point is, male wants to be a slut, women wants to be a slut. We have 2 slut contenders. She will get every wish fulfilled in a short amount of time (and it can be an average girl... even chubby girl), wheras male contender will have to work is friggin arse off. That's why guys who do this are legends.
Yes, men get the short end of the stick when it comes to sex but that doesn't mean women should be vilified for it. That's the issue I have a problem with.
I don't vilify anyone. There is just some truth that women who sleep around are "easier" and men who do this are "legends"
A man can knock up 5 women in a day, but a women can only get knocked up once in 9 months, so you only need a small percentage of men to knock up all the women. A man will need a lot going for him to have the same potential sexual success as the average women. So male promiscuity is celebrated (because it's hard to do) while a women will just be considered a slut (because all she needs to do is open her legs). A man also doesn't know if a child is his while a women will always know, thus a promiscuous women is subconsciously seen as a risk that a man will waste his time and resources raising someone else's genes, it is a risk to male reproductive fitness. Also look up male michrochimernism (sperm from previous partners can influence your eventual offspring). I am not saying that we should shame women who sleep around, but be warned, it is an innate biological trait that sluts are devalued for long term commitment, so sleep around but don't cry when no guy will commit to you.
Men have the right to not want sluts, and almost all with a choice will chose the girl who has slept around less (for long term commitment), this is all biology, you can't have you cake and eat it too, female promiscuity will almost always have negative ramifications.
Lies. Males can get sex as easily too as long as he's attractive so gtfo
Utter crap! Please see my take that actually proves you wrong. And here is another thing to consider: what makes a guy attractive isn't always looks. It's power. Only a few select men (minority... some people give an estimate of 10% of guys and I have seen even 1% thrown out) of guys can get that which the majority of girls can get generally.
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a21819-real-life-examples-of-how-women-utterly-annihilate-men-in-the-sex
.. generally get;)
You are close minded and cannot see the forest from the trees. The truth is a bitch. For guys in this case.
Prove me wrong and I will put up my white flag. You will never be able to, there is not one shred of proof that helps your case. I can get loads to support mine.
I don't feel like it. Sowwy
Actually, she's right. Men just generally have to do a lot more to be attractive to women. I've been in both places (unattractive and attractive) and I understand the amount of investment I had to make in myself to get to where I am. It wasn't easy, but it was totally worth it.
@someguy17 actually you wrong and proved my point. You said "Men just generally have to do a lot more to be attractive to women" Thank you very much. Well done.
Shut up dude. You're a sexist. At my college if you're a male and attractive females will literally throw themselves at you. Nothing wrong with that. It depends on where you are. Some women that wonna have fun might throw themselves at a sexy guy, he can easily back off because he has standards and wants a girlfriend or someone he knows better. Same with women.
Plus if a woman doesn't want to, he'll rape her. Again you're sooo wrong and know it. BE BYE
A man can knock up 5 women in a day, but a women can only get knocked up once in 9 months, so you only need a small percentage of men to knock up all the women. A man will need a lot going for him to have the same potential sexual success as the average women. So male promiscuity is celebrated (because it's hard to do) while a women will just be considered a slut (because all she needs to do is open her legs). A man also doesn't know if a child is his while a women will always know, thus a promiscuous women is subconsciously seen as a risk that a man will waste his time and resources raising someone else's genes, it is a risk to male reproductive fitness. Also look up male michrochimernism (sperm from previous partners can influence your eventual offspring). I am not saying that we should shame women who sleep around, but be warned, it is an innate biological trait that sluts are devalued for long term commitment, so sleep around but don't cry when no guy will commit to you.
@my take owner "Lies. Males can get sex as easily too as long as he's ATTRACTIVE so gtfo."(emphasis added.) That is the statement I was commenting on and it is completely true. By agreeing with that statement, I wasn't disagreeing with your take about the effort men have to put in. So chill out. So few men put in the effort to be attractive to women that when one is actually attractive, it is a literal feeding frenzy. Women will start to do all kinds of crazy things to get your attention and make sure you know that they find you attractive. I was kind of nerdy growing up, and I didn't really put a lot of effort into meeting women. Now things are different and the difference in the way women act towards me is wild as hell (and fun).
@Opinion Owner "Plus if a woman doesn't want to, he'll rape her." Literally one of the worst comments I have ever seen on GaG. Do you seriously believe that if guys don't get laid they will all resort to rape? Most guys will simply be lonely and angry and then just adapt to their situation. To imply that there is something inherent in male nature that will lead him to rape a women is disgusting. There is something in the psychology of some PEOPLE that will lead them to want to rape others. Genghis Khan is a good example. He got tons of consensual sex, but still chose to rape frequently. 1 in 200 men in Asia is literally descended from Khan. Did he have to rape in order to get sex, nope. Was there something about his character that caused him to do so, yep.
@amphet11 No male promiscuity is celebrated because the world is sexist and want women to be virgins forever until one male that sleeps around want her. And a women doesn't have to get pregnant, all she has to do is be smart n use protection, be on the pill or both.
@Someguy17 What do you mean chill out? I was commenting to the other guy. I knew you agreed. Anyone with a brain will KNOW my statement is true
@Someguy17 First of all I am referring to rapists not normal guys that can easily go out and find a willing female
Holy moose testicles you people, draining: @opinion owner. Yeah rape? Wtf is up with that. I'm with someguy17 on that one. I don't believe you are in college because saying my take is sexist is the dumbest thing ever. Because a female can get sex easier than a male, doesn't make it sexist, seriously!! I am not attacking anyone, I'm not vilifying anyone, it's just how it goes. 2) @all of you... especially someguy17 you keep proving me right! you said men have it harder, you said men can get it IF he is attractive (shared by opinion owner) That's all I care about. You said men have to put in the effort! That's what I'm on about. Women don't. I also put in effort, but it's that effort that I'm on about. Effort... work... blood sweat and tears for pussy. Where a girl just has to show up. The men that have mastered this (the few) are legends. It mathematical.
@Opinion owner Yeah, that first comment with the "chill out" in it was directed at the take owner, not at you. You literally said "Plus if a woman doesn't want to, he'll rape her" with no other context around it. That doesn't imply any group of men, but men in general. Besides, most guys cannot go out and just find a willing female even if they're normal. Men at the top of the food chain (read attractive) can, no problem, but that's not the norm either. The majority of men have to work really hard to attract women, and success is never guaranteed. Trust me, I'm one that moved from the middle up towards the top. It is a different world. There really is a minority of men that are having the majority of sex.
@someguy17 thank you man. Exactly. And I wish you all the best to get into that top tier of male awesomeness. Sounds like you getting there. I know the amount of hard work it takes (women take this for granted, they see this awesome guy but we know it's taken years of pain, rejection and overt work to get to a females definition of "awesome")
@myTake Owner Whatever. Your crap is so wrong because IT DEPENDS where you are. Women that love sex and doesn't care about emotions can have sex randomly all she wants MEANING give it to any guy that ask. Same with men. It seems like 'women can just have sex easily' because most women have standards and we wonna make sure our partner is the right one for us before choosing to have sex. MEN DO THAT TOO so shut up
@Someguy17 Lies lies lies. Men can't attract some women that give it up so easily because THEY HAVE STANDARDS. Go after the ones that doesn't mind having fun and doesn't care about emotions. Not saying those 'easy' women doesn't have standards, maybe she just want fun. We don't know
@myTake Owner HAHAHA please you WISH he was awesome. The reason women probably didn't want him was because he's a sexist which smart women WILL run away from
Please don't knock someguy17. He said he was shy when he was younger. You opinion owner are living proof of why some guys are legends. You, and the rest of you girls have no idea how hard it is to become that which attracts you females. Then you clutch at sexism as the problem? Where you get this, I don't know.
Well he should stop being sexist and I won't knock him. I treat people how they treat me PERIOD. As for what you said, most people are sexist, males AND females
Please explain to me how I'm being sexist. To talk about intelligent girls; I've been with doctors and pre-meds, lawyers, an engineer, an architect, and many professional business women. And yes, the amount of time before sex can vary, but when you know what you're doing, it moves fast. Besides, I don't do it to rack up a big sex count number, I couldn't care less about that. I enjoy spending time with women, and they like spending time with me. Not sure how that's wrong or sexist. Further, I don't see how I've treated you poorly or called you a liar. I simply called you out on a very poorly worded phrase. Now I also have to point out that you've gone from "Lies. Males can get sex as easily too as long as he's attractive so gtfo" to "... lies. Men can't attract some women that give it up so easily because THEY HAVE STANDARDS." Which is it? It seems like any statement that disagrees with your worldview is a "lie" even if it's mutually exclusive.
@Someguy17 To your statement about you never treated me poorly: Sexist people disrespect me as a woman. Sexism also means a person that bases a certain behavior based on a certain gender, Everyone is different. Females are not all the same. We all can't go up to some man (WITH STANDARDS BTW) and easily have sex with him. You can't group women into one group of being able to have sex whenever they want when it's not even true. Guys can't have sex with three types of women. 1. Women they view as ugly (THEY'RE CHOICE BTW) 2. Women with standards (could be anything) 3. Lesbians I'm honestly tired of explaining this
Sexist or not... girls get laid easier generally. Sexist or not, men are physically stronger than women generally. Thats just how it goes.
Not true but whatever. Think what you want
Again... find me evidence to prove me wrong (and I really hope somebody can) and I will "think" differently. Unfortunately, you can't, and you outright dismiss the evidence I show (even look at the_champ opinion where he has a link to an experiment) so it's impossible to argue you (lol kind of like arguing against a Christian)
Dude all that statics crap is stupid. The ONLY way to find out is to know EVERY person in this entire world. That's not gonna happen so there you go. And never EVER compare me to a Christian, there are stupid like y'all lol :)
Lol well at least we have common ground with the Christian thing ha ha.
Are you a guy? I can't believe an actually guy isn't a Christian lol. That's... unbelievable tbh
Yeah, women can't just walk up to any man they want and get sex. We are talking in generalities here. If a woman walks up to a man and asks for sex, she is WAY more likely to get it than in the opposite scenario. Women have to put in as much (or more) effort to be attractive for a relationship, just not for sex (in general). Women are just more physically attractive than men. About me being sexist when I was younger, that is not the case at all. I was educated in liberal arts, took female studies classes, and identified as feminist. Things change with experience. Funny you bring up christianity, because my exit from christianity and from feminism were very similar. Woke up to the brainwashing and decided to think independently for myself. Life has been much better since I made both of those decisions.
@Someguy17 man you are contradictory. This paragraph made my mind jump in all directions: "Yeah, women can't just walk up to any man they want and get sex" (implies its just as hard for women)"If a woman walks up to a man and asks for sex, she is WAY more likely to get it than in the opposite scenario" (that's what this take is all about, it implies women have it easier) then "Women have to put in as much (or more) effort to be attractive for a relationship, just not for sex (in general)" (this implies that its harder for women) "Women are just more physically attractive than men" (this implies its easier for women again). Lol... yeah. @ girl who thinks everything is sexist (you must really hate Lions and their relationship with lionesses), I hate religion. Its the reason why I am the mentally unstable dude I am ha ha.
I'm not gonna read what y'all said Good day
Yeah, it's a mess isn't it. Basically, when men have options, their standards go up, so a woman walking up to ANY man may not work. That was my implication. Also, sexual attractive and relationship attractive are two different things. I'm sexually attracted to lots of women, but she has to be special to relationship me. I'm a lot more picky on who I get into a relationship with than who I sleep with. It's like the old saying "women are the keepers of sex, men are the keepers of relationships." Women sure as hell don't have it easier than men outside of the gettin sex arena. I was mainly throwing that out there to address the standards argument of the opinion owner.
@Someguy17 Well just so you know, just because I believe what I believe doesn't mean I sleep around. I actually never had sex before
Didn't get the impression that you sleep around. We all make the decision about our own sex lives and it's not my place to tell you how to live yours. I just relate mine.
Well I get told I'm attractive but the men who approach me are usually unattractive and smell and look like druggies ew
At least you get approached. That's why it's easy for girls. You... vs druggies and smelly men:) you even used plural which means several guys got rejected.
But I don't get a lot of sex. I choose not to have sex with random men
That's the key my dear... you have CHOICE:) that's why it's easy for a girl. A guy can't choose, he has to make shit happen and when he does it well, he is a legend. Anybody who does anything well is a legend.
It's not hard for all men to get sex: Dan Blizeran comes to mind
Well the men I find attractive do not approach me and it's not fun at all
Oh c'mon... that dude is like semi-famous. I'm talking about your average Joe. Please see my take that I copied in the other anonymous girls comment thread.
He's not that famous he's just rich and good looking
He is famous :)... and rich and good looking. I googled him. Yes, he is the top few men who has the sexual power of your average girl.
That is pretty pathetic if Dan Blizeran is the idol to average girl.
He's not an idol
dan bilzarian pays prostitutes and is very rich, any average girl can have more sex than him without paying a cent
@amphet11 thank you
@Opinion Owner "Well the men I find attractive do not approach me and it's not fun at all" Ever consider approaching them? I mean, it's your life and your happiness. Also, if the guy is attractive, there are probably a lot of women approaching him. There are so few attractive men running around these days that the market kind of inverts for them.