One in ten men over 30 in US are virgins and one in three women will not have children.
Is society simply weeding out the unsuccessful from a Darwinian point of view?
Well there are a lot of moving variables here. For example I am not sexually active right now but I did have a hook up 6 months ago. I’ve had long term monogamous relationships in the past.
But I agree something is happening and it isn’t good. It’s extremely toxic combination of modern feminism shunning marriages and children, porn addiction, hook up addiction (if you can do it), incel backlash, people not interacting i. e. the lockdowns did have long term impacts.
I honestly have no idea how to solve this. I am not going point the finger at one cause nor avoid responsibility for my own bad past decisions. I’ve been more introperspective lately about my own shortcomings. I know I need to improve.
But I do see a lot of men just giving up because the standards are just too high. Women have it hard too given they are being pressured by the hook up culture (some like it but others feel like they have to participate it in). Then some men try to do the right thing but they ended up getting exploited vía friendzone bs (being too chivalrous is boring to a lot of women). It’s an all around shit show.
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Just further commenting about the hook up culture. Some women like this but most don’t. But many find themselves participating in it but they are doing it with higher level guys. Higher level guys enjoy (or should I say intoxicate themselves with) a short term hyper ego boost. But unless they are famous and/or rich it won’t last. They themselves don’t know how to develop a real relationship. Meanwhile women aren’t built for promiscuity. But they are under societal pressure to be “equal” and “sex positive”. There are far fewer risks for them compared to 100 years ago given birth control and a high percentage of pro choice attitudes (more among women). But this isn’t really making them happy but instead depressing them. So what has to change? Really? Is it even possible to steer the ship?
I'm in the U. S., doing well with sex, but not having kids. Which button to I click?
Doing well. You may change your mind anyway.
I may change my mind and become a homosexual with a fetish for the Wizard of Oz and the Golden Girls but it seems pretty bloody unlikely at this point in my life.
So you’re into the Tin Man? Don’t even tell me if its a flying monkey.
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!Interest and proactive thought process here. Because nature always finds a way, right?
When you look at some of the societal issues we are facing today with LGBTQ, in a way you have to ask is Darwinism happening right now?
With all the progress made by woman and eroding of traditional family values and explosion of single working moms, rising children without any father or man in the picture. With the gender confusion we see today, issues around sexuality, men wanting sex less, women not wanting kids... is it Darwinism fighting back against human efforts to social engineer people to combat their own very human natures?
If you believe in evolution, then you have to believe the human race evolved around the very concept of heterosexual relationships.
Time will tell... but I will say this. We all know where children come from... so those that survive will do so because biological men are coming together with biological woman, and ensuring the future generations of the human races continues to move forward. And as human being if I choose not be part that then nature will run its course.
So maybe they are just thinning out the herd for us, and that isa good thing, right?
If homosexuality is caused by genetics (“I was born this way”) then not forcing people to marry as society did in teh past will definitely thin that herd. Bad moms, those who have other interests, will thin as well.
@davejord just last week a good friend who mine who is 28 told me he voluntarily got a vasectomy. He’s in perfect health. He’s never had kids. He’s not married. He’s just passed his state bar examination to become an attorney. He’s not even a manwhore who is worried about having an accident with the wrong woman. His choice was absolutely insane.
@blueonblack22 well, he is a genetic dead-end now.
I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I strongly believe that anything that results in men getting less pussy is an extremely positive development, because the less pussy a guy gets, the greater the benefit to the women who enjoy taking advantage of him.
No. They are relying on immigrants to provide babies as well.
But those countries are in decline as well. I think there’s like a dozen countries left but those are also dropping fast.
In order to sustain our current population most people need to have at least 2 kids. 3 kids or more are needed to increase population. Immigration is a temporary fix that won’t last much longer with the continuing decline of quality of life in America and Europe. Unless everyone starts having kids in the next 30 years there will be significantly more people dying of old age than being born. Meaning there will be more retirement homes than schools.
This is surprising if it is true.
Here is one article of many. Search on sex recession and a lot pf articles come up.
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...NS-women-childless.html
Not enough options in your poll.
I'm a high sex drive virgin who's only interested in marital sex with a likeminded woman who shares all my hobbies and interests, but once I find a perfect match to marry, either I will get a vasectomy, or she will get a tubalcoagulation (assuming one of us has not done so already), and we will not be having any kids, but will be having a lot of sex, video game time, etc.
So I'm not part of a sex recession, but also not part of the slut/player movement either. I've got the 1990s view on relationships.
When there's not much to provide, or anything at all, the last thing in mind is having a girlfriend or wife. Same rule doesn't apply for women's, because even jobless they always find a partner, and traditionally, they depend on their partner.
*or sexual partner. Only reason I am in a RL sex recession, is because, well, I am jobless. If I am jobless, no point in having sex, according to my common sense.
What type of work do you do? I wouldn’t pass on dating when out of work. You don’t need to spend a lot of money to have a picnic at the river. I would trust people more when I have little going for me as they like me for me.
I am literally broke. I was studying in college, finished my carrier, but months later: COVID-19. Not to mention that I can not get a job, for one important reason. My only option is creating my own business—something I am working on. In my country you don't want to be in a relationship been broke AF. Many don't give a damn and still go for it, but I ain't taking that risk.
People who are meant to reproduce will reproduce. The rest of you stay out of the gene pool.
your kinda dumb for a 106 year old man if we're being honest here.
: D So… you think i’m 106 because that’s what is shown? I selected that to show I am older but not provide an accurate age as too much personal information out there is… well… not smart. I am older than 35 though. When I was 35 I was running a global team on 6 continents for a global giant of a company. I was smarter then I guess so you’re right there (see how that is spelled, “you’re” meaning you are.. so “your kinda dumb” should be you’re kinda dumb… yeah).
I like how in a effort to negate sarcasm you end up proving me right
Yeah, yeah, yeah… moving on now.
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