Bdsm is more fundamental than anything else in human life?

The simple biological fact that men are bigger and stronger than women, that men are ravenous horny for women, and that men can use their superior strength and power to force absolutely any kind of act onto a woman they desire.

This is like, the ultimate root of everything that it is to be human I feel like. Every culture in earth is shaped by this fact.

Our religions are wisdom teaching us to use our consciousness and to project ourselves into other people. To feel their pain and to not use our power however we want.

And it all comes in my opinion from men raping women. That is everything. That is our history and that is also how our societies were built.

Societies rose because society put restriction on the free use of female sex. They forced men not to do whatever we want.
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  • Your dichotomy is incorrect. First BDSM is about WILLING exchange of power. What you are talking about is rape. Further not every D in a D/s relationship is male. There are dominant females as well. Lastly with the advent of weapons the playing field is more normalized. There were and are some very talented swords women, and once you bring in firearms that strength simply no longer matters.

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  • In other words, it is societally beneficial to be "Vanilla", and that kink stuff, taken too far, is dangerous. That makes sense.

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  • Wow your so backwards all the men now want me over them! The woke boys want a women on their face crushing their balls tied up with a strap on inside their ass

    • No I mean it goes all the way back though. Our very conception of gender is shaped by the fact that men are bigger and stronger. Our concept of man, and concept of woman is rooted in what I said above. No need to be mad. I'm not a conservative or a red pill or whatever. But it's scientifically interesting isn't it? To see how the fact of male domination over women has shaped literally everything about society. What I find strange is that feminists don't really make this explicit. I think implicitly feminism on the scholarly level recognizes how men have dominated women since the beginning. But I never read anything in feminist literature really making sense of BDSM. They say no its only an emotional thing. But submission and domination are real things. That's why men can get their balls stomped on right? They can say "hey, I'm a beta male, women don't want to reproduce with me. I'll be a cuck. I'll be the beta that I am." And he can receive sexual pleasure from that. And I think toxic masculinity circles that area too. The purpose of it ultimately is to cut men off from The ability to have a submissive sexuality. To disconnect us from our animal roots. In animal species the majority of males does not reproduce. I think we are now returning to our roots in nature where most men will cease to reproduce. But that is scary because the desire for sex in men is so profound that once the balance goes too far off, men will trigger like the locust, and just destroy everything, burn it all to the ground, in order to recapture power over sex with women.

    • What ever you tell yourself so not reading that

    • I'll just respond like men do! You think! Maybes no idea

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  • Nope.

    @_Maya_ ... Monday is not yet over.

    • Sorry if you didn't know it is masturbation Monday. I only had one hand free for a like for a minute there. Another user told me about this so figured why not? Is this guy championing rape?

    • I don't think so. I think he just wants you tied down while you masturbate. Against your will. Oh, wait...

    • I mean I read a book recently called "The second sex" which details how men literally owned women. Is that a book that is pro male ownership of women? I don't understand how you draw the conclusion that I think men should rape women based on what I have said. I feel like my grammar is pretty decent too. But I see how this works. Something about what I said triggers you, and you are not capable of entertaining whatever idea I am presenting. Instead, you will evade any kind of honest discussion, while leaving snarky remarks and walking away feeling superior. That's fine. Let's just get it over with.

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  • Well, BDSM is supposed to be consensual power play, so I think you got that wrong.

    • Sure, BDSM is a framework created so that people can safely engage in their kinks. Nobody's kink is for safety. But if you want to live any kind of life, you have no choice but to be as safe as possible. That does not mean that the root of BDSM is ultimately the most violent is disturbing concepts imaginable. Those things which men can and did subject women to for probably thousands of years. We live in a civilized society now, sure. But I am being scientific here. I guess these are just truths people don't like to think about.

    • Well, I mean, it's too late in the day for this debate. But I think you're focusing on the violence too much. There may be an element of violence, but really the key concept is dominance. Not reckless brutalisation. There is beauty in the natural power dynamics between men and women. Not in brutalising her or people. These things always exist on a scale, and you always get the odd nutter who takes it too far.

    • I think for some reason a lot of people feel a very strong need to ground everything in morality. All I'm talking about is theoretical shit about the fundamental nature of human beings and our development and how this spectrum of BDSM like activity which comes from our past, has shaped us. And I guess that need to ground everything in morality causes people to become afraid that somehow what I am saying is amoral and needs to be shut down.

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  • Really I'm not sure about it

    • Alex, good sir, don't use this as your intro to thoughts on BDSM.

  • FAAFO