Do you have to be in the top 10 to 20% to get laid as a guy?

[Anonymous]

There are studies showing that apparently women only find 10 to 20% of men attractive enough to get laid while the other 80% are unattractive. So it means that a lot of men are virgins & it's no wonder onlyfans & other paid porn sites are also on the rise. So in your own opinion do you think that the only men that get
laid are in the top 10-20%

https://blog.timesunion.com/kristi/2016/02/22/about-80-percent-of-men-unattractive-women-say/
https://www.psypost.org/2020/11/study-uncovers-a-large-increase-in-sexual-inactivity-among-young-heterosexual-men-in-the-united-states-58505

[ChrisMaster69]

Nope not at all.

You do need to be able to talk, be respectful and fun to be with.
however having seen what guy mates often tap off with, nah you don’t need to be in the top whatever lol.

I would say it’s likely guys talking themselves out of sex..

such as these weird fucking Incels lot, I mean a bunch of no hopers that blame others for their own failures lol. About as far from being a man as you can get.

[JDavid25]

Nah, it's difficult depending on the circumstances but Especially online, but a guy in the right place at the right time, can get laid no matter where he is on the totem pole.. I guess many guys don't find themselves in that position..

[Asker]

You have to admit though, men do have a harder time getting laid than women

[JDavid25]

Oh, most definitely!.. A very hard time.. Even with nice looking guy it's like pulling teeth a lot of times.. You would have to be in the right places at the right times for it to be at least not as "frustrating"..

[dirtydiary]

don’t believe this at all. 29 yo guy I work with still lives with his parents, drives a Nissan, and sucks at his job…. He’s average looking. Still makes me drip every time he talks. I would take his D any day. He’s not super smooth or good at flirting but something about him gets me. All my girlfriends have similar crushes thing is those guys never make a move and that’s why they don’t get laid.

[Asker]

Then i wonder why 80% of men aren't getting laid. And again exceptions dont disprove the rule

[DocJones]

She just told you why. They don't make a move

[SecretsofKB]

Yeah... no. that looks to be far from a reputable study. These findings need to be verified and reproduced. I wouldn't put much stock in this idea.

[Asker]

But a lot of guys do have to work on themselves though. Like they have to go to the gym and also make sure they're financially stable. Women really dont have to do anything but just be a girl & be descent looking & guys will approach you. Im not complaining about it but i do notice there is a big difference when it comes to men and women

[SecretsofKB]

That's a true statement. The issue I have is with the top 10-20% statement. That seems pretty implausible. But yes, generally men approach women more and have to some amount of "reproductive value" as I heard a Harvard psychologist call it on Joe Rogan's podcast a few weeks ago. Women also need that "reproductive value" also. It just differs to that of men. But really, it's just that 10-20% that I have an issue with.

[Asker]

If i told you that only 10 to 20% of men are sexually active with women, would you believe it?

[SecretsofKB]

No. Not at all.

[Asker]

Hypothetically if it was proven to be real and factual, what would your opinion be about that

[SecretsofKB]

My opinion is that we'd be screwed as a species. Because that wouldn't be sustainable to maintain a good population size

[Asker]

Yeah. Luck is also a factor too. Id argue that a lot of men get lucky with women

[SecretsofKB]

To some degree, maybe. The majority of men are average looking. Same as the majority of women are average looking also. Its the bell curve honestly. So the majority of couples out there making babies and having sex are average looking people. Definitely not just a lucky few.

[Asker]

Maybe. Pretty long analogy but someone basically wrote this to explain how its easier for women to get laid

[Asker]

Okay so there's a candy shop. Right when a girl turns 18, she can gets to go in because she's a girl and has access to it. So the girl can walk in and pick and choose what candy she wants. There's starburst, airheads, jolly ranchers etc. So she's been in the store picking a bunch of candy while there's guys outside that can't enter the store. They can't get in and are stuck outside. So the girl continues to look through the candy and eventually she gets grossed out by certain candies and decides to stick with certain ones and she knows the candy to stay away from and sticks with the ones she wants. Now 10 to 15 years have past and now some of the guys that were outside made some improvements. They went to the gym, make a lot of money and have built their status up, so those guys that did all that get to walk into the candy store and now can choose what they want. Guess what happens? BOOM he's going through all the candy and just keeps on taking a lot of candy from different piles. And the girl is looking at this guy like wtf why is he acting like that? there's plenty of candy around. What she doesn't realize is he had to work his ass off and make improvements to be able to do that now. And other guys outside that can't get into the store are cheering him on because they know it wasn't easy for him to get into the candy store and now because he made changes and worked for it, he now gets to take his pick of any candy

[loves2learn]

Nah. That seems extreme.

[Asker]

What makes it even worse is that only 10 to 20% of men are getting laid while the 80% are invisible to women

[loves2learn]

I am still not buying this.

[Asker]

Thats fine. Lets agree to disagree

[NathanDavis]

"studies"

[exitseven]

No, but it helps.

[Riebeck]

Considering about 50% of people are in relatioships

[Browneye57]

Yes. 80% of women are chasing 10-15% of the top guys. The rest of everybody else is standing on the sidelines waiting for something to happen.
Do the work. Be the man. Do you have any idea what that entails?

[Asker]

Im not complaining. As men we have to bust our ass and work for our success

[Browneye57]

That is correct. Always has been, always will be. The burden of performance is on the man. If you fail, she'll shut down sexually, cheat bail or any combination of these. She'll wander off looking for CHAD THUNDERCOCK. LOL

[moviedude714]

I never was fan of the social dynamics of dating

[Twalli]

For ONS sex, but for relationship sex it doesn't matter.

[OnTheLevel]

Not even close. Look around you at the guys who are with attractive women. Confidence is all it takes.

[Asker]

Again the exceptions dont disprove the rule

[DocJones]

Confidence and guys that can make women laugh

[OnTheLevel]

Asker... stop looking for excuses as to why you can't find a girl. Man up and put in some effort.

[DocJones]

Well said.

[Asker]

Oh i know we have to put effort. Men have to put in effort if they want a shot. They have to go the gym and make a descent amount of money. Women dont have to do anything but just be descent looking & boom its easy. So yeah i agree we have to work hard

[DocJones]

I know a few guys that are in the bottom 25% as far as looks go and they are with women that are easily in the top 10 or 20%. Rich good looking guys hit on them all of the time and their wives don't even hardly acknowledge the other guys. Makes me wish more women were that way and also that I was more like the guys with those women. Looks and money aren't enough to keep a woman trust me. It takes more than that

[DocJones]

I don't buy it, I never had any trouble getting laid.

[Asker]

Exceptions dont make the rule

[DocJones]

I have seen a lot average looking guys do just fine because they had the right personality and were funny so not really the exception

[Asker]

Then luck is factor too

[bigfinger4u]

Uh no I've seen dudes with no game no looks no nothinget laid..

[Asker]

How the hell did they do that? They gotta teach a lot of men

[shydude1991]

But of course

[Anonymous]

There are all kinds of unattractive guys married to beautiful women, so apparently it doesn't matter.

[Asker]

The exceptions dont disprove the rule

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not in the top 20% and I get laid. None of my married friends are particularly attractive either and they are all getting laid. It appears women don't only hook up with just the top 20%, thankfully.

[Asker]

Do you agree though that its harder for me to get laid?

[Opinion Owner]

If you're looking for casual hook-ups, yes.

[Asker]

I meant men

[Opinion Owner]

It's more difficult for unattractive men to pick up girls for a casual hook-up.

[Asker]

a lot of average looking guys have trouble too

[Opinion Owner]

True.

[Anonymous]

No, the bottom 80% pay for it in some way