Gender Roles Are Natural...

What If I Told You Gender Roles Are Natural?

Let me explain...

**Here is a very triggering meme below just to get you rustled up and excited**

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Introduction...

I'm going to start out this take by giving you an example to consider instead of a formal introduction. The title of this take is self explanatory, so let's dive right into it. Let's consider the debate with women getting tattoos.

My Stance...

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Women have to have a certain body type and swagger to pull off tattoos. There is a difference in dynamic here and I'm not just going to negate that to sound politically correct. I have 3 tattoos, all of which I can hide with a shirt. (Well my shoulder one sort of sneaks out of my sleeve but not too much).


For men, tattoos are masculine and they almost always symbolize a story. That projects rugged wisdom and experience, which is masculine. My tattoos are military and they have stories. Chicks have always been down to hear them when my shirt comes off. It's not that feminine for a woman to have a bunch of rugged ass stories permanently written on their body.

Consider that women are very emotional beings and are turned on by much more so than solely the physical perspective. Men are in polar opposition of this. Men are much more simple than that in regards to attraction.


I realize as I get older, these tattoos will start to fade. Even with faded tattoos, I'll still be able to pull it off as sexy to a lot of women. That's due to the fact that it's emotionally stimulating to them. It projects and image of a man with wisdom and rugged stories just as I stated before. Men can pull off rugged... Women? Not so much.


A woman's physical attractiveness is based on purity. No, not in the sense of virginity or innocence. I'm talking about that soft and radiant skin, feminine facial features, and a body that screams fertility. I'm talking about that certain glow that attractive women have. You know what I'm talking about...

I can't say that I'd enjoy a spontaneous hand job in the car as much from my girlfriend if she had bigger callouses than me. I can't say that I'd be as sexually attracted to my girlfriend if she sounded like Hulk Hogan in the sac. "ALRIGHT BROTHER.. I'M READY.. LET'S DO THIS."

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This same concept goes with a bunch of tattoos on her skin. I'm attracted to my girlfriends femininity. By default, tattoos are not that feminine.


Having said all that, my chick loves my scars, loves my callouses, and loves my tattoos. She actually loves my bent ass nose from wrestling/fights in the past (Can't really see in my pic). She has heard all of my fight stories and she loves them. She absolutely despises "pretty boys". Not because she couldn't get them before. She is a fucking knockout, much prettier than me forsure. She just likes masculine men.


I digress. I guess what I'm getting at is that women appreciate masculinity in a man and men appreciate femininity in a woman. Tattoos by default are not very feminine for the reasons I've stated.


Concluding on this example, I'm a man and I'm fucking happy to be a man. I have tattoos, I cuss, I have scars, I've gotten in fights, I'm rough, and I'm loud. That's me and if you don't approve then I don't really care.

Let's Talk Logic...

I don't hate men who are feminine by nature, but I do see them as weak. Now femininity is very vague in the basic sense of the word. It's very fluid and it's interpretation is almost always dependent upon personal discretion. I'm using this word in the basic sense of it's definition.

I think being submissive and passive as a man is personally pathetic. It sort of goes hand in hand with this counter-argument in which gender roles are to be considered a social construct. Let's logically break down why this is not applicable in even the slightest sense.

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KEY WORDS: Constructed through cultural or social practice

When you try and correlate this into gender roles, it's flawed logic. It's flawed logic for the sole fact that masculinity for the most part is the result of biological science. Let's look at the two major ones here.

1) Men have a very different hormonal structure in comparison to women.

(source: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2012/02/11440/male-and-female-behavior-deconstructed )

2) Men have have a different neurological layout than women.

(source: https://www.columbia.edu/itc/anthropology/v1007/jakabovics/mf2.html )

Men are significantly different than women in a lot of different ways and this isn't my opinion. This is based on factual information. Here is a video of more random facts about our differences, that might not be directly applicable to gender roles, but still carry a point.

Let's Digest This Logic...

1) Why Third-Wave Feminism Is Bullshit...

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This is the whole issue with modern day feminism. The logic of modern day feminism is that it completely deviates from what would be considered rational logic. Modern day feminist want to believe that they are completely the same as men. Feminist might not believe this at surface level, but if you actually look at the feminist agenda, it's literal embodiment is based on that very idea.

This is just false on so many levels. We will never be the same because biology won't allow us to be the same. That's not to say that one gender is superior or inferior, but rather to say that we are different. That's not sexism. That's just logic.

There are men that certainly differentiate from what I just told you. There is no generic man, or generic woman. I realize this but I also realize that there are still significant differences between men and women. A feminine man is still going to be significantly different than your average woman, just as a masculine woman is still going to be significantly different than an average man. I'm referencing this statement in regards to biological facts.

2) Why are we attempting to favor femininity in men?

Consider this... If a man deviates on a biological level from what is considered masculine, then by logic, he would be considered genetically inferior.


According to the National Institutes of Health, the normal range of testosterone for a man is 300ng/dl to 1,200 ng/dL (nanograms per deciliter (ng/dL). If a man has a testosterone count of 115ng/dl, then he would be considered significantly below average in comparison the the your every day man, thus making him genetically inferior. He would be genetically inferior for the sole fact that he has a severe disadvantage in life. That's not an opinion of mine either. That's factual information that actually go hand in hand with almost every theory in the real of sociology itself. That's why these people are sort of out-casted. That's why some people are naturally intolerant to these sort of things.

3) Women, stop shaming traditional masculinity...

There is absolutely no benefit in rewarding these types of people in society by delusional favoring. Stop shaming the traditional masculine man! Acceptance is absolutely necessary for people who differentiate, and if you have any sort of empathy, then you would agree. Having said that, the issue arises when society attempts to shame those who are not of inferiority status.

I see this all time. A great example of this is when girls attempts to bring down masculine men by saying that what they are doing is a result of overcompensation, and/or a small penis. If you drive a truck, you have a small penis. If you workout, then you have a small penis. If you have shoot guns, you have small penis. If you do anything remotely masculine, then by misguided influential default, you have a small penis. That's absolutely ridiculous.

4) Men, stop shaming traditional masculinity...

Another example of this would be in regards to men shaming other men for acting in any which way that would be considered masculine. To the insecure feminine man, masculinity is intimidating.

Let's talk about the overused term 'developed'. Yes... "developed". A lot of men who are feminine by nature like to shame other men who are not by derogatory means. They do this by claiming that masculine men are of neanderthal status, and they themselves, are developed and educated. They synonymously correlate "developed" with sitting in an air conditioned room at university all day utilizing their brain. If you don't abide by that definition of development, then you are considered of neanderthal status and/or a 'meathead'.

Let's talk about reality here for a second. The key to the pursuit of happiness is a well rounded life. I'm 23 years old and at first glance, you would probably make your assumption that I match the criteria of a meathead. I'm also in engineering, and I do study for hours on end in a air conditioned lab. That being said, I like to do other things as well. Mind blowing shit right?

The reason why the feminine man does this, is because the masculine man is a direct reflection of what they strive be, but cannot for whatever reason. The issue arises when they intentionally attempt to bring you down by using these negative stereotypes in a derogatory manner. That within itself fits the criteria of what we call insecurity. That's when I have an issue. That's when I realize that this feminization of men propaganda is pushed too far. I see this all too often.

5) Concluding as to why gender roles are not a "social construct"...

By this logic, what I just mentioned would actual be intertwined with a social construct. That being said, the social construct part is set on the foundation of cold hard facts. That's why masculinity and femininity is not a social construct. Some of it's variables are applicable to the definition, but nothing more than that.

If you look at history, it evidently proves this to be true. Yes we are much more developed and that's a common response to this whole argument. It doesn't matter though, history is history, and we are still human beings. No amount of social awareness will change out the foundation of our biological wiring.

The social construct variable to this argument is simply responsive. Society is responsive to our biological wiring. Again, this is why masculinity and femininity by itself is not a social construct and never will be.

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We're Getting Too Soft. Stop Adhering!

I grew up in an environment where being overly emotional was shamed. My dad spanked me and pulled the belt when I talked back or did something stupid. When I broke up with my girlfriend at the time for cheating on me when I was younger, I told my dad. He saw me depressed and called me one day and told me grab my fucking balls and move on. I did. It snapped me back into reality. I sincerely thank my dad for all that tough love today because it molded me into the man I am. It made me into a stronger version of myself. I personally think that a lot of men these days are too emotional, and too soft. I think it's a mistake to reward that kind of behavior and shame in opposition.

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1) It's Called Banter... Calm Down Becky...

My senior year of high school, I enlisted in the Marine Corps. I left right after graduation. You can probably assume that I've been surrounded by hyper masculinity to the extreme just from knowing that about me.

If you were skinny, then they made fun of you. If you talked like a nerdy bitch, then they made fun of you. If you didn't get pussy, then they would make fun of you. If you fucked up doing simple things, then they would make fun of you. The list goes on...

You see, this was all in good humor though. If someone was personally making fun of you then that meant they liked you. My roommate here at university is a virgin and I call him a pussy all the time for it. He in return makes fun of me for a lot of other things. We laugh about it. It's called banter. It's called men being men. A lot of men don't have thick enough skin to even joke around like that anymore. I personally think that is pathetic that we can't even joke around like that without someone getting all butthurt and beat up about it.

2) Story Time...

I remember the first account I had on here. I answered this guys question. I sort of made a joke at this guy in reference to my answer. He was twenty-four years old and wearing a Pokemon T-Shirt in his profile pic. I was expecting this guy to make fun of my nose or some shit in which I would of laughed. No. This grown ass man wrote me a goddamn novel as to how he has the right to express his individuality in any way that he see's fit. He said my comment was offensive and went onto tell me about his broken childhood and how Pokemon was apparently his only escape. I was staring at my computer like this...

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It was a strong "what the.. fuck?" I actually ran into a similar scenario on here just a couple days ago. Cringed so hard that I turned into a fucking raisin.

3) Stop taking yourself so seriously everyone... Stop this politically correct bullshit!

Here is an example from what I see on gag in which you can all relate to.

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It's entirely up to your judgement as to whether or not you deem my humor funny. In my opinion, people should be able to laugh at themselves a little more instead of taking themselves so seriously all the time.

I'm vulgar. I'm loud. I joke around. That's me. I'm not going to filter everything I say in attempt to satisfy everyone else. I'm going to be myself. Life is too short for that. Enjoy life. Learn to relax and laugh at yourself once in a while.

Here is an example of how it should be in my opinion. Here is an example of someone rational.

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Concluding...

Men...

This might be hard to realize, but women actually like feeling feminine. They actually like you slapping their ass unexpectedly. They like it when you have the ability to take control of a situation with ease. Embrace your manly ways, don't hold them back. Women love that shit.

Am I implying that you adhere to anything other than what is natural? Nope!

Trying to act and adhere to any type of masculinity with effort? That's all false dominance boyos, the girl needs to actually trust you to submit to you. Fabrication will turn a woman away from you very quickly. If she likes you, and is truly submissive towards you, then she will trust and respect you and your judgement. That doesn't come instantly, but rather through time.

Seriously, just act like a mensch. It's really not that hard. Act like a man, put all the bullshit aside, stand your ground while acting within the best interest of the two of you. Do this and your girl will respect you as a man. You need to be the leader. What kind of leader lets trivial guidelines get in the way of his better judgment? Be you... Be a fucking man...

Women...

This might be hard to realize, but men actually like feeling masculine. They actually like it when you give them a massage and home cooked meal when they get home from a long day. Not because you feel obligated to, but for the fact that you like to make your man feel like a king. By nature, you're much more nurturing than a man. Accept that. Embrace it. Men love that shit.

Am I implying that you adhere to anything other than what is natural? Nope!

Be genuine within yourself and with your intentions towards him. Be unapologetic in your feelings for the fact that you're entitled to them. Be genuinely interested in your man's life and his success. Compliment him when you feel it's compliment worthy. Be a badass bitch who isn't afraid to stick up for yourself. Make your man feel good about himself in every way. You're a team ready to dominate the fucking world together. No times to be playing games of trying to prove a point of where you stand as a woman. Games are for children.

Lettuce be real...

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Who do you want by your side when shit goes down? What kind of man will you be looking at?

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BOOM.

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You know what I like?

I like how my girlfriend and I have a dynamic in which we both know our place as me the man, and as her the woman. I lead and she trusts my judgement and ability to lead.

...Triggered?

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  • Why idiot men want to spend so much time putting together crap on a website is beyond me...

    • so idiot women can learn :)

    • @Tdieseler There's nothing to learn. It's bullshit.

    • Why is it bullshit though? You calling me an idiot isn't wit. Try to actually articulate as to why at least. You don't agree with it.. that's obvious. Why? This take took 10 minutes to put together. It was a opinions that I've posted in the past. I copied and pasted it into this take and changed some words around and put it together. Literally didn't take more than 10 minutes.

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  • 1. ((Concerning most of your girls with tattoos bit.))

    So basically a truly feminine girl has to have had nothing wrong ever happen in her life? I suppose I can agree if the specific event was a little unsettling, but I've seen girls have tattoos to represent a period in their lives when things just weren't going right. Of course, you could just be using that as an excuse to bash on girls with tattoos simply because you don't like tats on girls. In which case, that's going to boil down to individual preference.

    2. "Concluding on this example, I'm a man and I'm fucking happy to be a man. I have tattoos, I cuss, I have scars, I've gotten in fights, I'm rough, and I'm loud."

    2a. Legitimate question, how do you get away with the fighting? I've always grown up being told crap that basically amounts to "if you put your hands on someone in an aggressive way AT ALL, you're going to jail." Where's the line?

    2b. I do not believe one has to be loud to be masculine. There are plenty of strong, "men of few words" types.

    3. "There is absolutely no benefit in rewarding these types of people in society by delusional favoring. Stop shaming the traditional {...} that, the issue arises when society attempts to shame those who are not of inferiority status."

    Tell me about it. Why do they do this when they know they're attracted to it? It's illogic bordering on mental illness.

    4. "I see this all time. A great example of this is when girls attempts to bring down masculine men by saying that what they are doing is a result of overcompensation, and/or {...} default, you have a small penis. That's absolutely ridiculous."

    While I agree with most of that, I do want to talk about the truck thing. The truck is only considered masculine because society associates it with big masculine men. If that association wasn't there it wouldn't have the same effect on women that it does because, in the end, it's just a truck.

    5. "I personally think that a lot of men these days are too emotional, and too soft. I think it's a mistake to reward that kind of behavior and shame in opposition."

    Who's shaming it? I haven't seen any examples of this in my life.

    6. "If you talked like a nerdy bitch, then they made fun of you. If you didn't get pussy, then they would make fun of you."

    ((Con't))

    • 6a. I'll admit that I tend to use a lot of complicated wording and terminology. I don't see why I'm any stronger or weaker for it, it's just how I prefer to talk. If you're talking about fantasy/gaming nerds, okay fair enough. 6b. While a guy having a lot of sex is a big indicator that he is masculine, I don't believe it's a true element of masculinity. Meaning girls want you because your masculine, you're not masculine because they want you. 7. "Am I implying that you adhere to anything other than what is natural? Nope!" I'd like to point out that trucks are not natural.

    • 8. "If she likes you, and is truly submissive towards you, then she will trust and respect you and your judgement. That doesn't come instantly, but rather through time." I don't know about that one. A lot of girls seems to fantasize heavily about a guy appearing out of nowhere in their lives and possessing them almost immediately. I'm probably going to be told that "fantasy isn't reality." To which I say, I've always known that's absolute shit used to ease uproar whenever rape fantasies are introduced in some way. 9. "Seriously, just act like a mensch. It's really not that hard. Act like a man, put all the bullshit aside, stand your ground while acting within the best interest {..} What kind of leader lets trivial guidelines get in the way of his better judgment? Be you... Be a fucking man.." Amen. ((Con't))

    • 10. "This might be hard to realize, but men actually like feeling masculine. They actually like it when you give them a massage and home cooked {...} you're much more nurturing than a man. Accept that. Embrace it. Men love that shit." 10a. They don't realize it. Either that or they don't care. 10b. I predict a lot of girls are going to misunderstand this as you whining that we have to feel superior in a relationship. This is something I've been thinking about for a while; that girls often feel the need to shame us for quote, "not being able to handle a superior woman." What do you think about that, I wonder? 11. "Am I implying that you adhere to anything other than what is natural? Nope!" I'd like to point out that the concept of having/not having tattoos isn't natural. ((Con't))

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  • too much good stuff

  • If the dishwasher stops working just hit her over the head.

  • No, gender roles are not natural, they are adopted.
    Androgynous personality is basic human nature and is highlighted by many well known social and psychological studies as being basic "gender nature."

    • Did you want to elaborate on why this conflicts with what I have said? I mean, I'm not going to do hours of research on this when you're not really directly opposing any of my points.

    • I am not directly opposing any points because arguing with you is pointless. I am simply stating an opinion of fact.

    • It's not pointless if you look at it for the sake of debate. I like debating as you probably know. It's never personal with me boyo. I like you and would want to hear your perspective. It's up to you though.

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  • I was enjoying this read, when a thought evoked in my mind. "This is good and all, but I really wish he would be more encouraging."
    And then I read the concluding part, and it was if you read my mind. Excellent writeup, good sir; I agreed with everything you wrote. Here's an imaginary fist bump.

  • I bought a house, because I have a small penis to compensate for, it seems :D You really do learn something new every day.

    For the record, I recommend making the distinction between "it is" and "its". I can understand most of the time which one you meant, but they aren't synonyms. (and no this isn't so-called grammarnazism. )

    "I personally think being submissive and passive as a man is pathetic." - I agree with this every day of the week.

    You play too fast & loose with terminology, though. (For instance: "rational logic" -there is no such thing. There are what you would call "rational thinking" or rationality and logic. Logic is not empirical, it is axiomatic, while rational thinking expects one to take into account circumstances that may not be explicity stated, hence there will always be ambiguity and such "discussions" follow naturally, because of it).

    "That's why masculinity and femininity is not a social construct." By the definition you gave, it follows immediately from logic.

  • Good take, but we already knew that 😉

  • One Y chromosome can cause wars! Can cause need to make a website called G@G, can cause gender wars, comment wars, attractions... 😂😂 Just one Y chromosome!

  • I'm not a fan of your lack of empathy towards soft guys, cause a lot of that has to do with a lack of male role models teaching them how to be men.

    Nevertheless what you wrote makes a lot of sense. Very insightful post.

  • So what you are saying is: Stop being a pussy. You have balls, learn how to use them. And feminists wanting men to be soft and feminine just like women is bad... And gender roles are good?

    Good fucking job boyo 👍 It's about time I start seeing more men with their balls on straight on here.

  • I don't agree with everything but decent take. Especially about men being sissies and over emotional.

  • If behaviors based on gender were 'natural' then guys would still be clubbing women unconscious to rape them. If behaviors by our genitalia were set in stone from the beginning of human life, we would never have evolved from apes.

    Behaviors are conditioned based on our environments, from the people who raise us to the access to basic needs. Every one of us humans have both a masculine and a feminine side to us. Men are never solely masculine because we happen to have dicks or balls. Women are never solely feminine because they have vaginas.
    No matter how condescending you may try to evoke your ideas, there will always be a variety of human behaviors and mindsets in human beings, whether or not you want guys to be masculine, or whether or not you want women to be feminine. Trying to force this way of thought is no less crazy than religion.

    • This goes intertwined with the whole "developed" argument. We aren't of Neanderthal status and that is a given. It is so be amused that I understand and grasp that concept. I recognize that society has an influence on how we govern ourselves. That doesn't change the fact that gender roles stem on the foundation of our biological wiring. To suggest that gender roles are simply a social construct would be to suggest that none of our behavior is inherent as men and women. I also mentioned that men and women don't have a generic personality. A feminine man is still significantly different than an average woman. The same goes in reverse. There are people who deviate from a biological level, but they are to be considered of inferiority status. That's not my opinion but rather logic. Testosterone is produced in the testes but to reference genitalia as whole that dictates our behavior is nonsensical.

    • It is to be assumed*

    • I'm also not trying to force any thought onto you at all. I didn't think I sounded condescending at all. I simply laid out logic and facts. Then I summed up everything with some of my opinions and explained to why I have my opinions.

  • Couldn't agree more. People are free to live as they like, but shouldn't bitch about when people don't agree with them.

    • like the OP did? :D

    • @Heroinne I guess a well laid out and articulated take is bitching. Lmao that's not wit. Try to actually oppose and debate me and then we'll see who has wit? 😄

    • I could try, but I don't count on your abilities to actually debate, since your logic follows a pattern of conclusions derived from your opinion on a fact, which you try to sell as an actual fact.

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  • ya a lot of them are easy to hate and resent but at the same time, there is no way around them, we have to live with them even if we don't like them

  • That was really the best thing I have read on gag so far , man you are genius and you showed whats most of the men hide inside, bravo !.

  • "If someone was personally making fun of you then that meant they liked you" Couldn't have explained it better

  • Nice memes, well written

  • great take!

  • I dont know why but people is to nice to me sometimes like if the words was going to punch me in my face...

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