A relationship should never be anyone's ultimate purpose in life, I don't see why everyone feels the need to think that? Men are definitely not my ultimate purpose in life, but I'm not gonna follow or identify myself into some kind of group though.
Men going their own way in theory isn't bad itself at all, it's always good for people to focus on themselves, and that should be one of their priorities in life. It's just that many men who identify themselves as it are so bitter to women, making extremely sexist remarks and downgrades all women.
Even as a feminist I can say the same about feminazis that think men should go to concentration camps and whatnot. Any type of extremism is bad. Just like the opposite, thinking women are pure angels and such is bad, we are not, we are just human and all individual people.
I also think that just because people have gone through bad things in life because of specific people they shouldn't hate a whole gender for it, if that was the case I would've been spewing all kinds of hate on men because of the horrible shit I've gone through by some guys. But I'm not gonna let that destroy my view of all men because they're all not the same, and I think MGTOW's should do the same. It's rather simple really, and bitterness takes up so much energy anyway.1 2 0 0Well if they are a group dedicated to male , masculinity, self improvement and success through traditional values as their website claims they sound like good guys and im all for a group promoting the return of real men. Im so tired of these male feminist guys who would let a girl walk all over them because they think it will lead to sex (it wont). I know a few MGTOW guys some seem very shy and timid but some are so passive aggressive towards women I guess they feel impotent in their lives but all those guys live at home and spend their nights playing computer games.
0 1 1 0If they're respectful of women and view me as their equal, it's all good. I prefer the realistic view of women, I don't want to be viewed as this beautiful, angelic creature foreign to men that needs to be defended, it's annoying as fuck. Obviously at the same time being thought of as nothing more than a stupid, manipulative whore isn't nice either :P But from the sound of ROK, it sounds okay.
2 1 0 0Its really really not,
Its sexist garbage here is the site
https://www.returnofkings.com@Waffles731 Well, damn :P
I dont see whats sexist about apart from the fact that its a site for men.
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I believe in the philosophy of listening to all but following none. I prefer to take a piece of what all these groups are saying (ROK is a new one...) and hold onto what works for me. People these days are too fixated on being part of some particular group/clique
1 1 0 0That actually sounds a lot like me. I definitely agree. Nice details too.
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6 10Why define MGTOW as losers? They're not doing anything bad. They're just avoiding what they see as a fruitless situation.
0 5 0 0well would you describe them as winners?
Neither. They're just people who are looking out for themselves and themselves only.
thats what makes them lifes losers
Isn't it founded by Roosh V or someone? And doesn't he want to legalize rape on private property? Yeah, no, I'm out.
Source: https://www.xojane.com/issues/roosh-v-legalize-rape3 0 0 0When Roosh made the suggestion about legalising rape on private property, it was a combination of irony and a thought experiment to illustrate his point that women should take more responsibility for their safety. He was actually talking against rape and urging women to take more care to avoid being raped. If you listen to his talk, rather than rely upon what someone (who was clearly not terribly bright) said that Roosh said. I am not even a Roosh follower. I am MGTOW, so I do not have anything to gain by defending Roosh. I am interested only in truth and accuracy.
@cth96190 Okay then, thanks for clearing that up.
if a guy merely suggests to a woman these days to take more care and dress appropriately to discourage rape he's attacked by rabid feminists who twist his words to say he's justify rape and that rape victims deserve it.
Return of Kings? No, thank you.
0 1 0 1They probably still don't like them cause it's another antifeminist thing.
0 2 1 0I find it interesting that the Return of Kings (ROK) author of this piece was not enough of a man to put his name to it.
He calls MGTOW losers, then is too gutless to put his name to it.
Pathetic and predictable.1 2 2 1Of you knew how ROK guys are harrassed by jigglypuff and other rabid SJW/feminists
Do you actually fear Trigglypuff, Big Red and the mentally defective social justice warriors? ROTFL I enjoy meeting those sort of idiots and traitors when they attempt to disrupt patriotic events. Once they strike the first blow, what follows is self defence. :-)
thats the problem you get persecuted if you do as they play the victim.
Daryush "Roosh" Valizadeh created ROK in October 2012.
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...-rape-deleted-post.html0 1 0 1@_Asker Non sequitur.
But this is of the ROK vein:
https://oi66.tinypic.com/14y7bs8.jpg
Why can't men just date normally without all these groups? Just be normal, no need for all this extremism (I know thats not what you're doing). We are all people. Just act normally x. x
4 0 0 0nothing extreme. ROK is just about self improvement and being the best you can be.
I was more talking about the guys who get hurt once and think women are horrible for the rest of their lives.
thats those MGTOW guys
I've never heard of ROK. Are they basically purple pill men?
1 1 0 0How do I feel about Republic of Korea guys?
1 1 0 0Also Return of Kings is horrifically sexist
no more than buzzfeed or the Huffington post. Is it sexist because its for men?
No its sexist because of lines like, "flakiness is a trait for women"
Whenever you use an acronym, you define it first. That's one of the most basic principles in writing. I don't even know what the fuck ROK stands for, so I can't answer your question.
0 0 0 0I fell asleep
1 1 1 0and accused some guy of rape.
whtas ROK guys and whats MGTOW?
0 0 1 0Return of Kings. Men go their own way.
I dont need a movement for not dating girls.
0 3 0 1ROK has plenty of dating tips
Il check it out what does the acronym stand for
Return of Kings
ugh... I think anyone who defines themselves by a shitty website like rok is probably not gonna make it
4 3 1 1Mehh
0 0 0 1Well I don't really see the point since I don't think women and men are that different after all. I treat everyone with respect and expect them to do the same. Society has some problems, some of which concern women's issues, some men's. I don't think there is such a thing as nowadays women rule the world and the "the reason Clinton is considered better than Trump is because she is a woman" -thing is just nonsense, pretty much anyone would be better than Trump. So yeah, you can think what you want but I do not necessarily I agree and if someone told me they think like that I most likely wouldn't want a relationship with them.
1 1 0 2Clinton is a terrible candidate
To the asker: well, still better than Trump. @ayylamo I live in a country where education and health care is free and the opportunies are pretty much the same no matter how much money you have. That is what the taxes are for and I am very happy to pay a lot of them when I graduate Uni and get a job. Trump will make the US a better place for mostly rich white men. Hillary tries to make it better for everyone.
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