1) They Won't Change No Matter What You Say
A lot of guys waste time seducing good girls. A woman has decided whether she wants to have sex with you very on upon meeting you. What this means is that if you were the exception to her rule, you'd know it. The reason is that it has nothing to do with how "cool" of a guy you are. It doesn't matter if you have a great personality or are physically attractive. It's a rule that's built to make herself feel like more feminine. She's been taught to treat her vagina like a priceless artifact and so it continues to collect dust, while she waits for a guy to "commit." So, eh, we don't need them...
2) Good Girls Are Not "Normal Girls"
One major psychological trick (I don't think they do this intentionally as a weapon but it comes across that way) is to suggest that all "normal girls" don't want to hook up even if they're feeling the guy and all "normal girls" wait until the guy is their boyfriend or have known them for months to sleep with them. What she's doing unconsciously is pulling you into her reality, meaning her way of thinking which she believes to be very true. If she believes her truth more than you believe hers you're likely to go along with it. However, most guys are just as convinced about how important sex is and such is the nature of a lot of early conflict. The reality though, for both, is that "normal" varies greatly. There are a lot of sexual girls there are a lot of prudes and there's a lot of in between. Trying to see all women one way or the other is not effective or true.
3) Good Girls Are Rightly Terrified That Their Mindset Drives Men Away
A big thing that seems to drive good girls is their belief in the higher purpose of their resilience and stubbornness. They fully expect men to not like their attitude towards sex. Thus, even if you would have come around to it, any initial resistance will have them heading for the hills in fear that you might be "just like every guy" and reject her because she won't have sex.
4) Honestly, Non-Hot Good Girls Are The Scraps Other Men Don't Want
Yes, you can become a lot more attractive both mentally and physically, but given a positive attitude anyone can find like minded people. Usually if you're shy, a lot of the girls you meet are easy to meet because, surprise, not many dudes want to eff with them. These girls have gone through countless experiences of a guy trying hard to change their mind then leaving after having wasted valuable time and probably money. It creates a lot of bitterness and shame when you can't even bag a girl that no one wants but the irony is that no one wants them because they can't be bagged. They want a relationship. They've made it clear. You only have yourself to blame for wasting your time and money when she made it plain.
Worst Offenders:
-Ex-Sluts who traded one extreme for another
-Good Girls who intentionally show off their butt or cleavage to get male attention and then feel like that attention should be paid to getting to know them ( Not talking about girls who actually just show off a lot of skin and don't have any interest in male attention for it. You can tell the difference.
-Virgins
What Girls & Guys Said
14 14What's the point here really? Why shame people who think sex is meaningful and should wait?
cuz its a stupid thought
In your opinion. I don't see a point in having sex unless it's someone I have feelings for and someone I can trust, you can't get such deeb emotional connection in few days. It's not a game to manipulate guys. It's what I personally need to be intimate with someone. The guy who stays is the kind I want to be with, someone with same views in life, simple as that. And if it's "JUST sex" why is it so important to be sexually compatible?
Stupidest thing I have read for a while.
Basically it's wrong that I want to know the person I have sex with? I should just fuck every guy I have even a slightest interest? If spending time with me, not only as a woman, but as a person isn't worth your time if I don't fuck on the first date, I don't think you are the kind of person I want to be with.
I want sex in a relationship, I think it's important, but not the only thing that makes me valuable to him.
not saying its the only thing at all. if anything it gets blown out of proportion by this make him wait attitude
You said getting to know to a woman is a waste of time if she doesn't fuck first.
i mean you act like i just show up and am like ok take your pants off. we hang out for a bit. if she's attracted she should have sex if she's not feeling me then she should tell me she just wants to go home etc. and then i'll disappear from her life without insult or complaint
Is it really that hard to wait until you are able to know are you serious about her or not? Women want to make sure man they get attached to won't bang other chicks the next day.
What difference does that make?
Okay, let me explain: If we don't feel special, if we are just like the other girls you hang out with, we know you clearly don't care that much. So we wait until you give up other girls, because it usually it means you are serious, tou know what you want, we don't have to just guess and waste our time.
Why not say well he's attractive I'll do the quick hit and still have my guy I'm serious about until I'm ready to commit
Women don't just "hit" a guy if we are looking for a relationship I mean. Some try to use good sex to trigger men think they need and "love" them, but often it ends badly because sex is mostly physical to guys while for women it's more mental and often get emotionally attached after it. The default woman thinks no sex before monogamy as good system. So good girls ARE normal girls.
No it's not the default it's just a minority
Because "No they are not!" alone is a quite valid argument? Anyway, normal women (majority or not...) do not like being used for sex by a dude who haven't made his intentions clear. Seriously, even here we see questions like "I hooked up with great a guy, had a fun night and then he didn't text back, I'm sad what to do?"
normal women don't look at every casual sexual encounter as "her being used" especially since it can be mutual. here is definitely not the norm. i think you'd agree when it comes to the gag guys as well.
I said, some guys don't make their intentions clear. That's the problem. They hang out few days, being all nice and trying to impress, maybe some romantic sweet gestures but after sex, won't be seen again. I don't want to deal with that dumb shit. In any case sex is most enjoyable when you are doing it to show your affection to someone. It's called making love isn't it?
So go for sluts
I suppose it depends on what you want. Do you want a serious relationship or just a fuck? If you just want to fuck - duh, find a slut. If you want something serious, of course you want a good girl. She's the least likely to cheat, most likely to be loyal. I agree on the worst offenders apart from the virgins, of course they'll be careful about their first.
Sweet! Chalk one up for the sluts! ::fist pump::
Why not just avoid ALL girls? Every type of girl will create problems no matter what the man is looking for. All girls play tricks and create traps one way or another. In the end they always win.
i disagree
If you think "the woman wins" = "the boy loses", you need to throw out every thought you currently have about relationships, and start over completely again from zero.
@redeyemindtricks i don't need to do anything. i'm not sure why you think I or any other man values your opinions. who gave you this notion?
I'm responding to the opinion owner. mahah what? "In the end they always win" ... he seems to be implying that "[women] always win" = "we [boys] always lose".
@redeyemindtricks ahh, i withdraw my previous comment lol
ahha no worries