How common are men who are whipped and submissive?

[Anonymous]

I would like to marry one. I was in an abusive relationship with a control freak who made my life a living hell and because of that, never again will I allow anyone to control me nor will I get into a relationship with a dominant person. I want to take the lead now and make sure that my partner does what I say instead. I guess I discovered my true dominant personality as a result.

[slatyb]

There are more submissive men than available dominant women. But being the dominant partner is not a free ride. To attract and keep a submissive male you have to be willing to meet his needs. There are some reasonable books on how to be a dominant woman, but I'm not finding them right now.

[Asker]

I agree. Both partners have to meet each other's needs. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to abuse anybody and this is not a fetish thing. It has nothing to do with sex. I want a natural relationship filled with love and all of my other needs. I just simply want to be the dominant one.

[abc3643]

It's tough discovering these things the hard way. Even tougher that you are in the minority as are submissive men.

If you PM me, I __may__ be able to help you find such a man.

[abc3643]

RESPONSE TO UPDATE: I was not going to discuss BDSM. Nonetheless, if you want my advice of where you might be able to meet such a man, PM me.

[abc3643]

RESPONSE TO 2ND UPDATE: I am serious. I believe that I can help you.

[Asker]

If it has to do with online websites, then I probably don't want to meet such men on there lol

[abc3643]

No, it does not - not exactly... You can do your own surfing, but I know of certain "markers" which will enable you to find a man who will likely be more complicit to your desires and needs.

[Asker]

share it. I don't mind discussing it on here lol

[abc3643]

I do. So, you need to PM if you wish to know more.

[Asker]

why so secretive? lol

[abc3643]

I can only answer that in PM.

[abc3643]

Look, you're missing out because I believe I can teach you how to find such men, but you need to PM me.

[Asker]

Dude, just say it. No one on here knows who you are and you're never going to meet anyone on here lol I don't like all this secrecy stuff.

[abc3643]

I'm sorry, but, excuse me, you wrote: "No one on here knows who you are and you're never going to meet anyone on here" then why are you asking your question anonymously? No need to answer. You understand that anonymity and privacy have their merits and people have reasons for choosing the path they take. So, you have to ask yourself: Do I want a chance at happiness in which case I will need to PM and trust this man that I will never meet with my G@G identity OR Do I not really care that much, but wish to remain anonymous at all costs?

[Asker]

I ask anonymously because people who use GAG regularly won't take my question seriously if they see who is asking it. It has nothing to do with hiding some random username with an avatar. And even if that was the case, I would have no problem discussing anything on here while showing my screen name and my avatar. I just don't see what the whole point of being secretive about this source you claim to know about. It sounds like some clickbait. No one is asking you to reveal who you are. You are being asked to just say what you have to say on here. Big difference.

[abc3643]

I have no interest in why you chose to go anonymously; it's none of my business. What is important to me is that I have an idea for a way in which you have a high probability of meeting a man who satisfies your criteria. It is no one else's business and, more importantly, I do not want interference from others. Therefore, my passing of this information to you is required by me to be private. Since I cannot message you, you must message me, then I can deliver that information and be available to you for any follow-up questions. Those are my terms. Accept my offer or not.

[Asker]

Aside from online dating sites and masochist clubs, I can't think of any other possible source. Submissive men come from all walks of life.

[abc3643]

"Submissive men come from all walks of life." That is true; submissive men can be found in all walks of life. Then, you don't need my assistance and should be able to find them just fine. However, you are not obviously aware of other facets of fetishism which may more suitably match your needs and desires.

[Asker]

I am not looking for someone who is "whipped" and submissive as a result of a fetish or because they receive sexual gratification out of it. It should be a personality trait. That being said, many people are saying that such men are "weak" and that desiring such a man makes me a weak person. Do you agree?

[abc3643]

1. I am not offering something AS A RESULT of a fetish. Think of it as the fetish is collateral to the personality trait. 2. No, I do not agree at all. That's idiocy.

[Asker]

1. What is this fetish? 2. Lol, That same guy said that being submissive and "whipped" is unhealthy. Just to clarify, what does being "whipped" mean to you? Because he says that a man who is whipped is "pathetic" because it means he wants to lose total control and be bossed around. Don't get me wrong, I'm a bossy person, but I wouldn't control someone to the point where they're unhappy and it turns into abuse. But, I still want to be dominant and be the decision-maker.

[Asker]

3. Are you saying it's idiotic to think that wanting submissive men is a sign of weakness or that it's idiotic to think that submissive men are weak? This person said that wanting to dominate out of fear of being dominated makes me a weak woman.

[abc3643]

It's idiocy to both. About other stuff, only in PM.

[Asker]

Gotcha. I mean, why do people think such things? It makes me feel horrible that people think that wanting these things represent some kind of weakness.

[abc3643]

Because most people are not deep thinkers and their "thinking" is conventional wisdom based solely on beliefs of what seems to plausibly make sense. There is little real verification of their beliefs.

[Asker]

Do submissive men like it when girls make the first move? Not pursuing though.

[abc3643]

All men are fine with women making the first move. In the words of Dr. Barbara De Angelis: "Men like women who like sex."

[Asker]

Do you agree with this statement? "There is no such thing as a good quality man who is submissive to women and lets them dominate them and do whatever they say. Any man who allows that is, by definition, not a good quality man. The biggest struggle you, and women like you, face is that good quality men are looking for good quality women, which rules out women like you right off the top." In essence, saying that submissive men are weak and that dominant women are not quality women.

[abc3643]

No. I disagree of course. The person who said that is someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. HOWEVER, there is a point to be made... Part of the human male instinct is to protect his family. We are like a guard dog. So, when we woof, there's trouble. Now, if the woman is dominant all the time, she might disregard what her "guard dog" man says and that can be bad for her. A good man will not easily back down in such a situation because he really needs to get across the importance of the situation. If she totally disregards his alarms, in the long-run, this couple is headed for trouble - both in the relationship and in life.

[Asker]

Oh, no, I totally agree. I want a man who will provide and protect. But, it pisses me off that people would think that men who are submissive are weak only because men tend to be dominant by nature and that I'm a bad-quality woman because supposedly dominant women want to use such men as a doormat. Like really? Is a husband who will do what I say really a doormat?

[Asker]

Am I really a bad quality woman just because I'm dominant?

[abc3643]

No, he shouldn't be. There are limits to everything. If he never says "no", then he is a doormat. What you want really is just an easy-going guy. One who is not demanding. One who pretty much lets you have your way. One who wants to see you happy and will often sacrifice his own desires for yours. At the same, time, you want a man who will bark and be protective and assertive when necessary. There are plenty of men like this.

[abc3643]

No, you are not a bad quality woman at all. In fact, I think a woman like you is good - you'd make a good partner. That said, you would be a bit difficult for a good fraction of men - men who are not easy-going.

[Asker]

I really do want to find a man like this and thanks! I think you'd be a good partner as well. Some dude who claims to be into BDSM says that such man doesn't exist. He says that submissive men can't possibly be good protectors of masculine. Why does he assume that? Am I really being unrealistic? Because I want a man exactly like how you just described.

[abc3643]

There are plenty of guys like me. You just need to know where to look. You should talk to @apriljoiner. She can tell you about me and/or she understands what I have been talking about. I can definitely point you in the right direction.

[Asker]

Okay. It just pisses me off that people try to discourage me from pursuing what I want and say that my expectations are unrealistic. Like, why do people do that?

[abc3643]

1. People love to piss on each other's parades. 2. People know less than they "think" they know. Why? Because they are not actually disciplined in thinking.

[Asker]

What should I say to him?

[abc3643]

Say to who?

[Asker]

This dude who keeps saying that guys like the one you described don't exist.

[abc3643]

Don't say anything. Ignore him. All throughout your life people will be spewing stupid shit. Ignore them. Don't bother trying to change them because they are too stupid to be changed anyway.

[Asker]

Yeah, you are right. I just have yet to meet guys who are good-quality and submissive. Are they common or are they truly rare to find?

[abc3643]

I will simply say they are in the minority. Not rare, but not the majority.

[Anonymous]

If you want a submissive guy, you need to take on the man's role in some matters, otherwise it won't work.

[Asker]

I agree with you, but do you think that submissive men are weak?

[Opinion Owner]

Not every submissive is the same. It always depends on the person. Authenticity and Sincerity is most important. Then he can be as submissive as he wants.

[Asker]

Can submissive guys be good protectors as well?

[Opinion Owner]

Of course they can. I don't think these two things are strongly correlated.

[Bob_Lobster]

Go to bdsm websites since there are a lot of men like that out there.

[Asker]

Nah, I'm not looking for sexualized submissiveness. It should be a personality trait.

[Bob_Lobster]

so shyness or what? There are a lot of quiet guys out there.

[Asker]

Not necessarily, just one who isn't dominant. Why are people talking about this like it's some kind of fetish? I just want to be the dominant one in the relationship lol

[Bob_Lobster]

Then just be assertive and confident, because submissiveness isn't seen as a personality trait -usually. Submissive would usually describe someone who is anxious and avoidant of others in a typical social setting.

[Bob_Lobster]

It sounds like you want to be more in control of the relationship than anything else. That doesn't have to make someone submissive.

[Asker]

Yeah, exactly. I still believe in traditional gender roles as to men being the providers and women being nurturers, but I want to be the one in control pretty much.

[Berethor]

Well thanks to a leftist influence, a pussy-whipped males are common nowadays.

[abc3643]

Your MAGA hat may be a bit too tight. Check that.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

Aw man, have they gotten to Israel as well? They're trying here in Sweden but mostly failing, thank God.

[Berethor]

Well a leftist media have some influence in every western country nowadays.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

True that. We have leftist media here who's been caught lying and twisting facts constantly about Israel. Thankfully fewer and fewer pay them any heed.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

I should hope they are rare. Can't think of anything more pathetic. You want to be dominant, fine, but a whipped man? Good luck with that.

[Asker]

Do you know what being whipped means? How is it pathetic if you don't even know what it means? lol

[Asker]

Being whipped has nothing to do with being abused by the way.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

Yes I know what it means and no, I never said it had anything to to with actual abuse, you did. And the fact that you don't find it pitiful in a man is strange indeed, but hey, by all means, go out and try to find yourself a Theon Greyjoy.

[Asker]

Why is it okay for a man to want to dominate and take control, but not for a woman to do the same? Because that's literally what whipped means. #doublestandard

[Asker]

This is aside from traditional gender roles. I stand by the idea that women should be nurturers and men should be providers and protectors.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

You're not very good at debating are you. I already said in the first comment it's fine if you want to be the dominate party in a relationship, but looking for a whipped/submissive man, that's unnatural. My apologies for your previous experiences but that doesn't mean the right thing to do is flip the tables. Now calm down, and good luck to you in finding such a man, because I really believe they don't come around often.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

And no, whipped is a man who's given up every inch of control in his life to a woman who bosses him around constantly. You might want to read up on the terms you use before flaunting them.

[AlexanderBrunnrgaard]

Well then you evidently are throwing around the wrong terms here. Just say you're looking for a man who'll let you take the reins, not a whipped man.

[Asker]

Saying I'm not "good at debating" instead of only attacking the argument itself, is an ad-hominem attack which reflects your own debating skills. That's okay though. I don't take it personally since most of the time people resort to such attacks when they have no other way to substantiate their arguments.

First of all, the opposite of the word dominant is submissive. Look it up. Whipped is tantamount to being obedient which is how women tend to be towards their men in most conservative cultures and religions in particular. Obedience is not synonymous with controlling. What you're describing i. e. giving up total control and bossed around, is pure abuse. If you have a different interpretation of the word, that's your problem, but the mainstream media seems to have normalized the word in articles like these www.bolde.com/.../
and AskMen thus showing that your interpretation is far off from how most of the world interprets the word to be.

As per the commonality of submissive men, based on the answers other responders have given, your perceived notion is false. That being said, if you don't like the idea of submissive/whipped men, that's your choice. You choose what you want to be and how you want to act. However, if you believe it's okay for men to desire women who are submissive and "whipped", but not women, you're just a sexist hypocrite.

[ForteExe]

OP you keep mentioning a double standard and something to the effect of (and I'm paraphrasing) "if a man is submissive he's whipped but if a woman is submissive she's attractive". I think you're neglecting to take into account the fact that men and women are NOT equal. We think differently, we have different preferences, different bodies, different needs, different desires, etc. You haven't referenced these differences once in anything you've written in your responses here, yet you're ultimately comparing the temperments of men and women by having a discussion about dominance/submissiveness and you seem to suggest that a submissive man is directly comparable to a submissive woman. That is simply not the case when you factor in the things that make men "men" and the things that make women "women". The things that make men feel and act masculine are in many ways linked directly to how competant and/or assertive/dominant he is, where as the same cannot be said about femininity and women. Thus, a man who is submissive is lacking in masculine traits (if he's naturally submissive) or is having to endure severe psychological stress (if he's not naturally submissive), however such a phenomenon is NOT present in submissive women. There is no hypocrisy here because having one standard for this isn't healthy when applied to both genders equally. There is and should be two separate standards for men and women here, because men and women have different sets of needs and they should both be handled properly. It isn't sexist treat men like men and women like women.

[Asker]

@ForteExe You're missing the point. I completely agree that men and women think differently. However, in the end, women and men choose the role they want to play in a relationship if not submissive or dominant by nature. Just like we all choose the type of career we want and where we want to live. This OP you're defending is essentially saying "it's okay for women to be submissive or "whipped", but not the other way around" or "any man who is submissive is pathetic and pitiful, but a woman who is submissive is a model wife." That in itself is not only hypocritical, but sexist. People have a right to be whatever they wish to be and live however they want. Who are you to say otherwise? Who are you to judge? Submissiveness and dominance are personality traits that are independent from the quality of person they are. This is what this argument is all about. In addition, masculinity is not solely defined by dominance and assertiveness. I know this is a silly analogy, but think of the Queen Bee and her workers (other male bees). The Queen Bee isn't any less feminine for dominating the bee colony. Her male worker bees are not any less masculine for following her orders. A man who provides for and protects his wife can still claim the title of "masculine" even if he submits to his wife. A woman can still be considered to take on a masculine role if she is the sole breadwinner of her household even if she submits to her husband. In essence, masculinity and femininity are not labels mutually exclusive to dominance and submission even though masculine men traditionally do tend to be dominant and vice versa.

[ForteExe]

No, it seems you've missed the point. First off, you're conflating being whipped and being submissive. No one made this comparison but you. Second, I haven't defended this guy once, I've merely jumped into a thread he was talking on. Third, obviously there's more to masculinity than dominance/submissiveness, however there is an extremely prominent correlation between men are naturally submissive and men who aren't masculine. Fourth, in your analogy about bees, the woman sits back at home and gives birth while the men run around and out of the house and work and die for the sake of her and their children. This doesn't display dominance or submissiveness; if anything your analogy of the bees mirrors traditional gender roles more than anything else (barring the emphasis on monogamous relationships). The "ideal" wife isn't so submissive that she's considered weak and defenseless, and in fact most guys probably wouldn't want a woman like that. Conversely a dominant man doesn't force his woman to stay home and pump out kids without consideration for what she wants. However, a man who is more passive/submissive will be at a natural disadvantage when trying to work outside the home for his family. Much like the worker bee, men who are assertive/dominant persevere to do what needs to be done to support their families, and a man who's a pushover will be crushed by the world, just as a lesser bee will be eaten or killed. Submissive/passing women struggle in a similar fashion working outside the home, however they are much more suited for work at home tending to the family. Men with similar temperaments thrive better at home too, but since submissive/passive temperaments are more common among women than not, and dominant/assertive temperaments are more common among men than not, the best division of labor in the majority of circumstances is the pairing of a dominant man going out to provide for his family while the more passive woman looks after the family from home.

[ForteExe]

I'm not judging those who don't fit the general pattern, but those people are a minority and should be treated as such. It is unusual for men to be passive/submissive and it is as unusual for women to be dominant/assertive. Incidentally, a man who is whipped is a man who is naturally dominant, but sacrifices his autonomy and caves to the demands of his woman to avoid conflict or to increase his chances of sex or long term relationship. It's NOT sexist to point out this trend, nor is it to support it.

[ForteExe]

Also I consider being whipped to be a type of abuse. They are in fact the same thing.

[Asker]

@ForteExe Nobody wants to be abused. The word abuse already refers to something done to an unwilling participant. “Wanting to be unwilling” can only happen in the context of a role-playing game. Submission itself, that is the acceptance of the power and control of another person above yourself, this is never abuse as long as it is agreed upon, consensual, and boundaries are set by both partners to define the limits between what is desirable and what is not. Simply the act of submitting to someone is not inherently - objectively - related to abuse. Simply the idea that the partnershp iincludes some form of power exchange is not related to abuse.

[ForteExe]

You're talking past me at this point. If you don't get it by now you won't get it at all. I'm done with this. Best of luck to you.

[Chaz269]

Every married man in western civilization is whipped.

[Asker]

Seriously though, what do you think of dominant women?

[aa180]

Huh? You were dominated and controlled and didn't like it?

I think you're secretly a dude.

[Asker]

Nope. I wouldn't want to abuse anybody. Being dominant and controlling are different things.

[aa180]

Hm, well reading your other replies, I believe I'm in the cateogory of guys you're looking for, i. e submissive in personality. I've never exercised it though cause I've never been in a relationship, but I do like the idea of treating a girl like my queen and 'serving' her or whatever. It's nice to fantasize about at least

[Asker]

Yeah, that's how I look at it. As a "Queen Bee" type of dynamic. But, definitely not abusive or sexual.

[aa180]

Yeah I like that

[Asker]

Why do people think that it's "unhealthy" to be submissive or that a man who is submissive is "weak"?

[aa180]

No idea, I think it's romantic in a way

[Asker]

Why do people say that dominant women are bad-quality women?

[aa180]

Because guys are usually high on testosterone and have big egos so they prefer to do the dominating instead. And they must have a low view of women or something to expect all of them to submit to men.

[Asker]

Can submissive guys be good protectors as well?

[aa180]

Of course. Being submissive towards your girl doesn't make you a wimp. Even if I was big and strong I'd still be submissive toward my girl cause I want her to feel valued and prioritized.

[Asker]

Some dude says that such guys are almost non-existent and hard to find. Is he right?

[aa180]

Hm, I'm not sure tbh. I feel like girls who actually want a guy like that are even rarer.

[tertater]

It's quite common. I tried it this last Sunday. Not my thing, but at the club I go to, it's quite even for a guy or girl to be put on the cross and whipped.

[Asker]

I don't want a sexualized thing. I want a natural relationship with someone who isn't dominant.

[tertater]

You'd certainly be able to get that. Just have to look around.

[Asker]

Yeah, I don't know why people assume that this is some kind of bdsm fetish thing. It has nothing to do with sex.

[tertater]

You said "Whipped", that's why. Whipped is completely bdsm/fetish territory.

[Asker]

Oh, no, not at all. It is to my understanding that "whipped" is a euphemism for someone who lets the girl take the lead. It's not like I'd be doing this to get sexual gratification. Even mainstream websites use the term "whipped" to describe gender roles. www.bolde.com/.../

As to whether it's used in porn, that's something else.

[jacquesvol]

I never met one

[taleswapper]

Try your local Munch. They're a sort of lifestyle friendship group. You're more likely to find a masochist at one than just out on the street.

Few men who are as you describe are going to be there, though. Unless brought by a dominant, such men are more likely to be solitary, stay at home types. They're already getting all the abuse they can handle from society at large.

[Asker]

I'm not looking for a sexualized bdsm thing. I want a normal, healthy relationship except that I want to be the dominant one. Do these types of men tend to not be successful?

[Berethor]

Why you don't look for the sexualized BDSM thing? didn't you want him to be whipped?

[Asker]

@Berethor being whipped or submissive is not something I want for sexual gratification. It's a lifestyle choice.

[taleswapper]

Wrong side. You want a submissive male, that's the place to look for him.

[Asker]

Nope. Not all submissive people go to these sex clubs/meetings.

[ForteExe]

I don't know about how common it is, but that's definitely not me. Also, it's probably a bad idea to look for a weak man to marry. You don't want to have to take care of the kids AND the husband. You don't need a little bitch of a man to make you happy, you just need a guy who isn't an unrelenting ass.

[Asker]

I don't see submissiveness as weakness. It's a personality trait. Are you calling all submissive women "weak"? He can still work and maintain his traditional gender roles. I just want to be the dominant one in the relationship. I don't want to be told what to do.

[Berethor]

You mean "his other traditional gender roles", submissive men are not traditional men.

tvtropes.org/.../WomenAreDelicate

[ForteExe]

I'm not calling submissive women weak, no. I'm calling submissive men weak. I think a better example of a weak woman is one who feels the need to be in control out of fear that she'll be abused by dominant men.

[Asker]

@Berethor Nice try at throwing ad-hominem attacks on me, but it only makes you look pathetic. Submissiveness is a personality trait. If you think that women should be submissive, but that men who are submissive are "weak", you're just a sexist hypocrite. Both which are signs of weakness and insecurity. I would agree that a woman who wants to be dominant in retaliation for her own personal experiences is also weak and insecure. But, a woman who wants to be in control because she enjoys it AND because she discovered that she does not like being dominated, is not weakness. The latter is me. Has nothing to do with fear. I know I can walk out at any time if I am being dominated. Each individual chooses what being traditional means to him/her. If he works and provides while the woman nurtures him, he is traditional. This is independent from what his personality is like.

[ForteExe]

I wasn't throwing any sort of attacks at you. You're overreacting pretty badly. Settle down.

[Asker]

You did by saying that I'm weak. I apologize if that wasn't what you were implying, but that's what it looks like.

[ForteExe]

Where did I say you were weak?

[Asker]

"I think a better example of a weak woman is one who feels the need to be in control out of fear that she'll be abused by dominant men." It sounded like you were alluding to what I said about being in an abusive relationship and not wanting to be dominated again.

[ForteExe]

I made a generalized statement about a particular pattern I've noticed among women where for one reason or another a woman has bad a bad experience with men and rather than properly confronting her issues and dealing with them she'll react harshly towards dominant or assertive men because she perceives them as threats, and instead gravitates towards weak willed men because they're easier to control or come off as less intimidating. The weakness there is the woman's inability to confront her issues, not the fact that she wants to be dominant.

[ForteExe]

There was a couple at the Christmas party I went to last night that meets this description fairly well. The guy she was dating was thin, lanky, soft spoken with a high pitched voice, sunken demeanor and not assertive by any means. In terms of physical size and strength they were about equal, and combined with his temperament it was clear that he wasn't really capable of dominating her unless he exerted some degree of extra effort and she sat back and took it. She wasn't overly assertive either. The host of the party asked her to get some wine glasses for the bar and she fumbled around for a bit not really sure of herself until her father came over and told her explicitly what to do and where to go. As the night went on she didn't really do anything other than lounge around and eat unless she was told to (Not asked to. She made no effort to take any initiative). The only times she really tried to assert her opinion were when I was talking with some guys at the bar about shark fishing saying stuff like "if that shark got onto the boat he'd thrash around and tear it to shreds" and she'd chime in and say "she" because we made the grave mistake of assuming the shark was male. Later we were saying how most people who are "gluten allergic" really aren't and that it's a fad, when she chimes in about how "her friend has a legit problem and yada yada". We weren't interested in arguing semantics with her so we didn't engage in her BS, but both times she gave up without repeating herself once.

[ForteExe]

Had she been an assertive woman she'd have stood her ground at least a little when expressing opinions that "supposedly" matter to her, and she'd take the initiative to help out instead of having to be told and led around by someone else. It was clear from talking to her that she is fairly passive by nature, which is characteristic of women in general so I'm not too surprised. Her boyfriend didn't really have much presence and sort of blended with the furniture. She definitely didn't have to worry about feeling threatened by him, but at the same time he wasn't good for anything. He wasn't pushing her to grow and improve, and neither did she. The both of them sort of just allowed one another to be mediocre together and not be alone at it. To me that's not a good relationship to be in, and that's more what I'm thinking about when I'm saying that they're weak.

[Saurav11]

Go hire dog
Dog will follow u... question is not that whom u want? But the question is who want ur kind of stupid Dumbass. Lol

[Asker]

Fuck off troll.

[Saurav11]

Get the hell out of my face Go get a life. I don't give a f to ur stupid attitude.

[Asker]

You are crazy as fuck. Get a life.

[Saurav11]

Oh please bitch Ur birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory. F u now go n suck others dick this bad boy not gonna give a fuck.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Probably pretty common now. You will most likely end up getting bored though..

[Asker]

Why? I like taking the lead. "Bad boys" definitely bore me.

[nudeNhorny]

I'm submissive

[Asker]

Do you think that women who want submissive men are poor quality women?

[nudeNhorny]

Not at all, some women find submissive guys more willing to give them attention and care about their needs, and women love attention from men, dominant women are not necessarily masculine or tomboys they can be so feminine, just like my current girlfriend, she is so feminine and even girlish but she has me completely under her spell

[colefree]

Sounds like fun

[Asker]

why? lol

[Anonymous]

That's nice. I can't ever find a dominant woman. I'm always the dominant one. It gets boring sometimes.

[Asker]

Someone said that submissive men are weak and that women who want to tell men what to do are not good-quality women. Do you agree?

[Opinion Owner]

No these are just a bunch of stereotypes. While there is some truth to it people want to act like it's 100%. There are plenty of good quality women who are dominant. And not all submissive men are weak. I don't believe that women should have to obey men and feel like they have to be beneath them to feel like a woman. And a man who is submissive doesn't have to be weak. Being submissive is a spectrum like everything else. For some guys there kink could be being sexually dominated by a woman to as far as doing everything she tells him to do.

[babylips14]

This is what another guy wrote in another question related to this one: "There is no such thing as a good quality man who is submissive to women and lets them dominate them and do whatever they say. Any man who allows that is, by definition, not a good quality man. The biggest struggle you, and women like you, face is that good quality men are looking for good quality women, which rules out women like you right off the top." What do you think of that statement? Do you agree that submissive men are weak and that dominant women are poor-quality women?

[Opinion Owner]

@babylips14 That guy is probably some traditional guy who thinks men should always be the breadwinner and women should stay at home and watch the kids and do all the cooking and cleaning and stuff. Either way that's his opinion which is fine but I don't agree with it. Submissive men are not weak, at least not all of them. They just like women who are more dominant. Dominant women are not poor quality. They're women who like to be in control. Nothing wrong with that.

[babylips14]

Don't get me wrong, I myself would prefer to nurture while having a husband who is a provider, but I want to be the one in control. I also don't think that every man or woman should have to follow the traditional way of life even though that's what works for me. You should do whatever makes you happy. It just pisses me off that I would be labeled as a bad-quality woman simply for wanting a guy who will obey me. Like seriously? He's probably one of those double-standard sexist hypocrites who believe that men should dominate and at the same time, force his woman to pay his bills.

[Opinion Owner]

@babylips14 Yeah when it comes to stuff like this there is a huge double standard. I've seen women who are pretty much masculine by societies standards but then talk bad about men who she thinks is more feminine or weaker than her which is being a hypocrite because she's masculine. And vice versa with men. And don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind being the one to provide and protect. But that doesn't mean I'm weak because I like women who are sexually dominate or like to be in control.

[babylips14]

Then I like guys like you then haha

[Opinion Owner]

@babylips14 Yeah I like girls like you too. And I get along well with girls like you.

[Anonymous]

Most guys are secretly submissive.

[Asker]

What do you think of the idea that submissive men are weak and not good-quality men?

[Opinion Owner]

Nah, I like them, they can be very romantic. On the other hand, dominant guys are usually just arrogant and rude.

[Asker]

Can sub guys be good protectors?

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know, some of them probably can, but I don't need protection, I'm very skilled in martial arts.

[Anonymous]

I don't think it is healthy for a man or woman to be whipped. If someone is that submissive it definitely isn't healthy at all.

[Opinion Owner]

When you get a chance please direct message me.

[Asker]

Why is that?

[Opinion Owner]

To talk. Haha!

[Asker]

Why do you want to talk if you don't even agree with me?

[Opinion Owner]

To say Marry Marry Christmas:D!! And Happy New Years!

[Anonymous]

I’d like to try it but I’m sure I’m more into the gentle side of femdom I don’t like to be like very pain oriented, but we are different ages and that could be illegal but I hope you find someone soon cuz I’m also looking for someone that is into be a lead

[Asker]

I'm not looking for a sexualized bdsm lifestyle. I just want to be the dominant one.

[Opinion Owner]

So you want a female led relationship?

[Opinion Owner]

Ok you don’t have to answer that question

[Asker]

Yes. Exactly.

[Opinion Owner]

yes that’s what I want to try, a female led relationship to see if I would like it

[Asker]

why is that? Is this a sexual thing for you?

[Opinion Owner]

I dunno in some level yes and in some other I think it’s because i have like mommy issues, and i guess I’m looking for a mother figure that’s the best answer I can give you 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Asker]

I see. For me, it's more about maintaining control. I'm not doing this for sexual gratification.

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah, understandable been in pretty toxic relationship too but you gotta live and learn

[Asker]

Do you agree with this statement? "There is no such thing as a good quality man who is submissive to women and lets them dominate them and do whatever they say. Any man who allows that is, by definition, not a good quality man. The biggest struggle you, and women like you, face is that good quality men are looking for good quality women, which rules out women like you right off the top." In essence, saying that submissive men are weak and that dominant women are not quality women. Do you agree with any of it?

[Opinion Owner]

I say that’s completely wrong as long as you are happy then it shouldn’t matter and I believe you can’t judge the “quality” of someone because they are submissive or dominant

[Asker]

Can submissive guys be good protectors as well?

[Opinion Owner]

If submissive women can be good protectors why can’t submissive men