I have many questions regarding your take on LGBT?

[Anonymous]

This post is mainly for people that are on the other side, people who are against LGBT. I am looking for calm and honest opinions on some of this points.

1. First point is members of the LGBT having a disorder. If someone is living their life without struggle and they do not effect anyone else negatively with that fact how is it a disorder?

2. Second point is education about it to children. Saying a child that gay people exist is bad? The fact that people think that someone can become gay due to education I honestly find quite weird. I live in a country where you basically never find out about LGBT until you go to 7th grade. I knew that I was attracted to both men and women ever since I had any sort of romantic attraction. I just did not find it weird or confusing and just accepted it as something that everyone feel while choosing to date the opposite gender. Once I learned about the LGBT people I still did not find myself as not straight until I found after 6 years that I have been lying to myself for ages thinking I was straight. The recent increase of people "becoming" part of LGBT is mainly due to people finding the terms that describe their feelings and letting them know that in case they feel that way that is ok.

4. Why is being LGBT considered bad? I do not understand what is someone that is part of LGBT doing bad to the world or themselves. If they are happy and they do not hurt anyone around them why is it bad? I do agree that things like public nudity are bad but that does not mean LGBT people re bad, it is just that some (very loud few) are behaving like that and majority of them use them being LGBT as an excuse for that behavior (while in reality it is not). The only thing you may find bad is the fact that some LGBT people can't have kids. This is something that in my opinion makes no sense to be bad as.

Please remain calm. I am looking for honest opinions. I do not mean to hate and I hope you will not hate me too due to my opinion.

[FunkyMonkee]

1. LGB is not a disorder, it's just a preference. Some people like vanilla ice cream and hate chocolate, others like chocolate and hate vanilla. Some like both, some don't like either! Nobody can help which one they like. In the same way, some guys like girls and some like guys, some girls like guys and some like girls, some of each side are switch hitters. Nobody that likes vanilla hates people that only like chocolate and vice versa.
T is a disorder in same way that someone missing a body part or ability they SHOULD'VE been born with doesn't have but hopes that, some day, this can be corrected. In this way, it's a disorder in that they don't have order in the same way everyone else does but, it's NOT a mental disorder the way some assholes say it is!

2. Next time someone asks something like, "What made you become gay?" Respond with,, "I don't know, what made you become straight?" That usually shuts them up and gets them to thinking!

4. (Because there is no 3.) Religion has A LOT to do with that! Supposedly, their god tells them that being gay is a sin! Well, if this god thing made everyone and being gay is a sin, why did god make so many gay people?
The ONLY bad thing they're doing is not playing by the imagined rules religious people think are there.
What's bad about public nudity? If that was a bad thing, why did god create us nude? why do al the animals run around nude all their lives? It's the DEVIL that talked Adam & Eve into wearing clothes by alerting them that they were nude and telling them it was bad so, if you're against nudity, you MUST be in league with the devil! God never told anyone they HAD to wear clothes!
Nudity has nothing to do with LGBT.
Yeah, being nude in front of children (at least not your own) is not a very good thing, unless you're all in a nudist colony and then, nobody gives a shit. But, being gay (or even trans) doesn't give you the instant right to be naked in public if it's against the law.

[Asker]

You are basically saying everything I think. I wanted to have a longer post with a bit more explanation but because there is a limit of 2000 I had to remove 2000 characters (also this is the reason why there is no 3).

[FunkyMonkee]

Cool!

[Unit1]

1. No, if they are happy being what they are being and do not infringe the rights, safety or health of others, it is not an issue. For example I understand why ladyboys exist and that they are quite many of them.

2. I knew about homosexuals since I was in 5. th grade and I didn't think much of it. There was no education about it back then but only some awarenesses spreading around and that's where it was kept at. "Gay" was used as an insult back then but that's not much different from calling a child, whose mother is a bitch a son of a bitch.

However education about LGBT for toddlers? I'd find it unsettling introducing these things to humans, that are just starting to explore grassy fields and sand and trees and friendship and social isolation by themselves. Like they don't need to know about boys sucking another boys penis at the age of 9 or so. They are watching Thomas the Tank Engine and Spongebob Squarepants. Let them know if asked for it whenever they want to know. Do not pry open their shells and force them to hear all this.

4. You skipped number 3. Historically people objected to new things, new developments and right now automation and AI is the hot topic these days. One possibility is that they hate what they don't know (yet). Hating on Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals and Transgender is basically the modern and rather milder version of the age old Hitlery (prejudice against Romani people, homosexuals, non-aryan people, jewish society, racism). What has changed since then? The target group being hated and the powerful tyrants have been removed from such positions mostly. The concept remains exactly the same - hate based on human characteristics/properties.

[catarecute]

i used to think i was attracted to women but actually i was attracted to a friend who loved me. i know its not natural for me to be a lesbian and now i know that this is not possible as our body isn't suited to have sex with the same gender. i know for sure now that i am not a lesbian even though i have struggled finding a male partner because of good percentage of them are complete arsholes.

[Nikki1989]

So this is a bait post for bigots to show their true colours?

[LiamJHayden]

I do not care what adults do as long as they are not violating the person or property of another.

[Anonymous]

Most people have no problem with LGBT folks. But in recent years they have been all about "educating" children about gay and lesbian sex, which is just fucking wrong. THAT is what people have a problem with. Leave people's children alone and most won't have a problem with you. That's the bottom line.

[Anonymous]

I have nothing against LGBT people in general, just some of the thigs some of them do. I believe for many or most of them it's not a choice. No one chooses who they find sexually attractive.

1. It is a disorder by definition. Whether it be a genetic disorder or a mental disorder, it is not normal. Males and females are both born with certain physical hormonal characteristics that allow them to play their role in human reproduction. Gays and lesbians have a disorder that makes them uninterested in the opposite sex, thereby removeing them from the human reproductive process that perpetuates the species. I don't say that to be judgmental at all, it's just a fact.

2. My 3 year old neice loves the movie Tangled and pretends to be Rapunzel. She has an amazing imagination and at times she clearly believes she IS Rapunzel. That's how young minds work. They are not mature enough to understand why they can't be someone they're not. They don't understand sex or sexual orientation, and exposing them to those concepts too early is a problem. I've seen it firsthand. Even at the 7th grade level is too early in my opinion.

3. No comment

4. Most people don't consider being LGBT bad. They just have a problem with it being pushed as an agenda with our children. Leave our children alone, and we will leave you alone.

[Anonymous]

I have no issue with people being gay. I think it's a misrepresentation to say other people aren't being impacted negatively, particularly in the case of the T. I don't think the majority of women would say there's no negative impact to sharing a locker room with a man who says he's a woman. Likewise female athletes who work hard just to lose to a man claiming to be a woman are negatively impacted.

As far as kids knowing there are gay people, in early childhood, most kids don't know about sex either gay or straight. There's no reason to change that by putting books in school libraries accessible by 8 year olds that give graphic descriptions of kids having gay sex. Suggesting to kids who don't understand gender yet that they may be the opposite sex and that they could "transition" is also harmful to them as it can lead to permanent damage. None of this falls into the category of just letting people live their lives. All of it is pushed by activists who won't let anyone else live their lives without being inundated with trans propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Trans people piss me off when they thinks it's ok to manipulate straight men into gay sex, ruin women's sports/invade women's spaces, support transgender transitioning kids, and try to forever everyone to call them something they objectively are not.

Gay people don't really bother me. I just don't think they should be parents and I think it's werid when so many make being gay their entire personality.

[Opinion Owner]

*force not forever...

[Asker]

I did not put anything about transgender people as it is the topic I have 0 experience of (I am not trans). But my opinion is that their take is valid. Phycology has proven that people can truly feel like they are of different gender. Calling a transgender person with their original pronouns can trigger a panic attack in them and that is the reason why they get so angry when people use the wrong pronouns. Objectively they are born with a specific gender and objectively their mind tells them that they are not of that gender and therefore they identify themselves as trans and want others to treat them as that gender. When it comes to sex forcing anyone to have any sort of sex (straight or gay) is bad so I do not see the difference between them. Being trans does not mean they are forcing people to be their partner. When it comes to sports I agree, it is something that I honestly think should be looked into especially trans people who are taking testosterone (that is usually banned to others). But if someone clearly looks like a usual woman and is a transgender man they have no right to be mad at someone using the wrong pronouns. But also if someone specifically tells you that they are a guy and they wish to be treated that way I see no reason why would you fight against it like it is going to effect you any way if you just call them they way they want. When it comes to what gender is it has shifted in meaning. The old gender is now "biological gender" so that has just changed. It is just the way we word it. If we would use "phycological gender" and "gender" would you feel the same way about this? Sorry if this seems like I am attacking you (I do not mean to do that). I really tried to make it be in a calm tone but I am not sure if I managed to do that.

[Opinion Owner]

Lost power so I had to quickly read through that before my phone dies. Apogieis if I missed anything. "I did not put anything about trans people as it's topic" does the T in LGBT not mean transgender? I'm almost certain it does. You asked for my take on LGBT, I gave you my take. The panic attack thing. That's why we should be encouraging them to get help. Not enabling mental illness. What about the many trans people who grow out if it, but society encouraged them to make permanent changes to their bodies... just fuck them, right? "Forcing any sort of sex is, gay or straight, is bad) absolutely. I never said it wasn't bad. But the problem is there are a disturbing amount of trans people (and non trans people who defend this) who trick straight men into having gay sex with them (rape by deception) and then expect a free pass to be a rapist. They don't feel they should have to tell these men that they are trans.

[Opinion Owner]

And seriously, do you really think we shouldn't be trying to get these people help? You cannot make people see you as something you aren't. Even if you make an effort to meet them half way and just call them by their name... If you see someone who appears to be a man, because this person IS a man, eventually you're going to slip up and will say he/him. They WILL slip up because what other people see themselves as is not the only thing we are thinking about. We are thinking about work, personal problems, etc. Our world does not revolve around someone's preferred pronouns. If that's all it takes to set them off and give them panic attacks... time for them to get professional help. I know you think you're doing the right thing, but you are doing trans people no favors by enabling them.

[Asker]

What you are describing is accidental and in my opinion yes we can't avoid that. Phycology has proven that transitioning is the only permanent solution and that is "professional help". Also transitioning solves the problem of using the wrong pronouns because usually all people that do transition look more like their gender then the gender they were born with. Also people who detransition is so low (1%) and the bigger problem is trans people who kill them selves (50%) that is proven to reduce significantly with people who transition. Transitioning is fully optional. I never found anyone forcing someone to transition against their will and the majority of trans people actually do not transition. Pronouns is not the most important thing I agree but also how would you feel if someone called you a woman? You definitely would not be happy about it.