If a girl who is lesbian uses a dildo, is she still a lesbian?

[ChefPapiChulo]

if she uses a dildo which is shaped like a dick, would she still be gay?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Still lesbian, just like straight men who use dildos are still straight. Just like virgins who use dildos or fleshlights are still virgins. Sexuality and sex is with people. It's the people that matter, and ur feelings toward each other. Toys are just fancy masturbation.

[ChefPapiChulo]

okay that made no sense at all.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

What? Isn't sex between at least 2 people? Isn't gay sex at least 2 women or 2 men, & straight sex is at least 1 man and woman? So how can u have straight sex w/out a man? How can u have gay sex w/out 2 men or 2 women? How can u have sex at all w only 1 person? THAT would make no sense at all.

[ChefPapiChulo]

yes but what is the shape of a dildo? a penis. how can a lesbian woman get sexual stimulation by something that looks like a penis.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

What does the shape of a dildo have to do with what kind of sex it is? It's still not a human person, which u need at least 2 of for it to b sex. U know what sex is right?

[ChefPapiChulo]

Because a dildo is the shape of a penis. Do you know what a penis is? And what sex is it belongs to?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

A peice of silicone can't have sex no matter what shape it is. To have sex, u need two people. Right? Do we disagree? Cuz if so I can't help u anymore, ull have to figure it out urself.

[ChefPapiChulo]

Okay if a gay guy uses a sex toy in the shape of a vagina how could he be gay? He wouldn’t be.

[ChefPapiChulo]

We’re not talking about sex. We’re talking about penis shaped dildos and lesbians.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Okay. So we're talking about sex toys and if they can affect ur sexuality. But again doesn't sexuality depend on people and how they feel toward each other? If a woman doesn't have sex with a man and doesn't want to, and does have sex with women and wants to, that's lesbian. Right? I don't see any reason that any toy she could use would change how she likes & has sex w people, aka her sexuality. That's why I say a sex toy doesn't affect ur sexuality.

[Mac-One]

@chefpapichulo A penis is shaped for natural penetration and stimulation of the female. It is only natural for a dildo to be shaped like that.

[ChefPapiChulo]

so having sex defines your sexuality? what a woman is a lesbian, but is a virgin would she be gay? and what if she used dildos? how could she be gay if she has never had sex and uses penis shaped dildos?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

"& how they feel about those people." Wanting to have sex w people is part of sexuality. Sorry i did say and instead of and/or in last reply my bad lol, but yeah sex and how they feel about it. So yeah a virgin can be gay. But again dildo would no effect gay or virgin status.

[ChefPapiChulo]

well why wouldn't it be? if its shaped like a penis that means they like sticking penis shaped things in their vagina. and if they like penis shaped things in their vagina how could they be lesbian?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Bc sexuality is about sex. & how u feel about. & sex requires people. Dildo is not people. I don't know what's not making sense

[ChefPapiChulo]

how is it about sex if someone is a lesbian has never had sex, how can it be about sex?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Bc of sex they wanna have. people they wanna have sex with. The feelings shit remember?

[ChefPapiChulo]

well if they use a penis shaped object wouldn't you say they have feelings for penis shaped objects since that is what they use to stimulate themselves? if i was masturbating and i used an anus shaped sex toy instead of a vagina shaped sex toy wouldn't that make me at least slightly gay? i mean i don't own any sex toys so that is just a hypothetical.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

How u feel about objects don't matter to sexuality. They not people. They can't have sex. Fr I don't know how many more times I can say the same shit.

[ChefPapiChulo]

This isn't about me. This is about whether or not an object that looks like a penis being used by a woman who claims to be a lesbian. If a woman liked other women why would they use a sexual toy that resembles a penis if they preferred vagina?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

& I said yes she can. Bc AGAIN lesbian isn't mean to "prefer vagina." It's to prefer woman. Whole woman. PEOPLE. Not fucking shapes.

[ChefPapiChulo]

we're not talking about liking people as a whole. we're talking about sexual attraction. and the sexual attraction that a lesbian might have towards their penis shaped dildo.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Sexual attraction is to people lol. U aren't sexually attracted to a dildo. Not unless u got some weird fetish like whatever that autophilia is where u attracted to cars or some shit. That's wild tho. Like u not sexually attracted to ur hands when u masturbate right? U not like oh yeah, sexy hands, touch me like that. Cause that's fucking stupid lol. Sexual attraction like straight, gay. Those are attraction to people. Not to toys. Not to shapes.

[ChefPapiChulo]

no but you can be sexually attracted to penis shape things. so why would a lesbian be attracted to something that is shaped like a penis if they prefer vagina/women.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

How can u be sexually attracted to a THING. Explain. Explain how a whole human person can be attracted to a literal chunk of silicon, sexually, in the same way they can be attracted to another whole human person.

[Screenwriter]

It doesn't matter what the vibrator looks like! Mine looks like a knob. It's how it WORKS. No one cares what it looks like if it feels right. These lesbians aren't imagining it's an ACTUAL penis. They're enjoying how it feels. Heavens!

[Mac-One]

@chefpapichulo What other shaped objects could be used? Vagina was designed for that shaped objects.

[ChefPapiChulo]

@Screenwriter if it looks like a knob than that wouldn't look like a penis right? so not what i'm asking at all.

[ChefPapiChulo]

i dont even know what you're asking. they literally make vagina shaped toys because straight men are attracted to vaginas. they could make it look like a tube sock but instead vagina toys have vulvas and everything which do absolutely nothing besides make a guy think he's having sex with a real vagina.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Damn. Okay I guess I don't know what ur talking about then when u say "attracted to" or sexual attraction. Personally I've never felt attracted to anything that's not a human person. I can't imagine falling in love or having a passionate affair with a toy, or a disembodied vagina or penis. Can't imagine having feelings towards any objects like that. They're just tools to me. Like hands. To use when ur hands are boring ig. I can't understand being sexually attracted to something like my hand. Sorry I can't help u understand anything about that kind of attraction. Good luck figuring out ur confusion about that.

[ChefPapiChulo]

its not the actual object. do you know what imagination is?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Yes. What does that have to do with sexual attraction or sex toys?

[ChefPapiChulo]

I'm just responding to what you said.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

I don't understand

[ChefPapiChulo]

You said a bunch of nonsense about being attracted to your hand or whatever. So I said people to masturbate to their hands. They use imagination. And when lesbians use a dildo that resembles a penis, wouldn't they be imaging they are having sex with a penis, since thats what theyre using? a penis shaped dildo.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Disagree. When I masturbate I just masturbate. Don't be imagining shit. It's not sex I'm not sexually attracted to anything in the room, just horny. I don't see why a lesbian would have to be imagining anything while using a dildo either. Just masturbating with extra steps. Dont require u to be sexually attracted to anything to masturbate. U think people can't cut w/out being sexually attracted to something in room or imagining someone they attracted to?

[ChefPapiChulo]

What the hell? Who doesn't use their imagination when masturbating?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

At least 3 people. Who the hell can't get off without imagining something? That sounds really hard to do. Do you need to imagine while having sex with actual person as well?

[ChefPapiChulo]

No, the whole point of masturbating is imaging yourself having sex.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

The point of masturbating is u feel horny so make urself cum & it goes away.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Wait, if most people really did imagine when masturbating, then why wouldn't a lesbian just imagine having sex with a woman? Since she likes having sex with women and not men

[ChefPapiChulo]

Well how can you imagine having sex with a woman by using a dildo shaped like a penis?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

How can u imagine having sex with a woman with nothing? Imagination duh

[ChefPapiChulo]

some people buy toys that look like vaginas. just like some girls buy dildos that look like penises. are they actual real vaginas or penises? no, they use imagination to imagine they are real.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Use imagination however u want. It's imagination. Don't tell other people how they should n shouldn't imagine whatever toy they wanna use

[ChefPapiChulo]

i'm not telling anyone anything. i'm asking questions.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Okay I'm just trying to answer. If most people imagine having actual sex when masturbating, and lesbians like women and not men, then why wouldn't a lesbian just imagine having sex with a woman when masturbating? That would seem like the logical thing to do.

[ChefPapiChulo]

well then why use a penis shaped dildo? and i agree that would be the logical thing to do, but is it logical to be a lesbian but use a penis shaped dildo?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Why not? U can imagine whatever u want. So what u use doesn't matter. As long as what u imagine having sex is with women, and when u actually have sex is with women, y would u not b lesbian?

[ChefPapiChulo]

How can you imagine having sex with a woman if you're using a penis shaped dildo? Women do not have penises.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

There are no rules in imagination.

[ChefPapiChulo]

I can't say you're wrong there but generally imagination needs to be relative. Like if i were to ask you whats the first thing you think of when I say lake, and you say lava lake... then i would say that's good imagination. But if the first thought you had was potato, I'd be like... okay? So would it make sense to think about having sex with a woman when using a dildo which is penis shaped and men generally tend to have penises and women dont?

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Would it make sense to imagine having sex with another person when people usually have bodies, and there's just your body? I don't think so. But u say people imagine, so why not whatever they want? Maybe she imagine a woman with a penis. Maybe a woman with a strapon. Maybe a woman with a funny shaped hand. I don't know. It's imagination & she likes women.

[ChefPapiChulo]

They could.

[Screenwriter]

LOOKS.. Not IS. If it WAS a MAN, you might have a point. It is Not a man. It is a sex toy. A woman gets stimulation from what the toy DOES. Not what it looks like. How is this NOT clear?

[ChefPapiChulo]

@Screenwriter how can you get so upset over a question?

[Screenwriter]

They make vagina shaped toys for men because they FIT penises. Gay men use them too. They aren't attracted to vaginas. Attracted to how the vagina-shaped toys FEEL...

[Screenwriter]

Not upset at all. Just stumped that this is so unclear to you.

[ChefPapiChulo]

@Screenwriter that does not make any sense. Why would a gay man use a vagina sex toy? You clearly have no idea what you’re saying.

[Screenwriter]

Because the vagina sex toy FEELS GOOD. It doesn't matter what it looks like! This is the point. It matters how it functions, what it does for the penis/man. If the best male sex toy looks like labia/vagina, the gay men might laugh about its looks, but it is NOT a woman's sex organ. It is a masturbation toy. People use their imaginations and minds when masturbating. What is off is what you're stuck on. That the LOOK of a masturbation toy has anything to do with the user's sexuality. It doesn't. And it might be fun to "play" with a toy that looks like something you'd never encounter in real life. And a toy penis or toy vagina is safe. It is not attached to an actual person or any of the complexities that would occur with an actual human who you are not sexually attracted to. I don't know how to explain it any more clearly. If you can't understand this, you'll never get it. Lastly, if there were a vagina/labia toy touted as the easiest way for most women to have multiple orgasms, even though I'm not attracted to women, I too might buy one because of WHAT IT DOES. I don't have any interest in vaginas other than my own. But if this toy was a super vibrator, why not use it?

[ChefPapiChulo]

@Screenwriter I think you have an issue with logic. But anyways if it didn’t matter, companies wouldn’t make it look that way. A concept you’re clearly not able to understand because you’re insane with rage.

[Screenwriter]

Rage. I'm not enraged. I am baffled. I guess some women using penis shaped vibrators like the look of them. And some women might ONLY use penis-shaped vibrators. I don't know of any statistical study about the sexuality of the women using penis-shaped vibrators. But some women using penis-shaped vibrators are gay. Just as some men using pocket-pussies are gay. Using mechanical devices that look somewhat like male or female genitalia but ARE NOT male or female genitalia is completely different from engaging sexually with ACTUAL male or female genitalia. This IS logical. And I think this is the point you are missing. I don't believe most people fetishise a silicone-covered mechanical device whether the silicone looks like a penis or a cabbage. Whatever the device looks like is secondary or tertiary to what it DOES. I'm sure the look of the penis vibrators is connected to sales. It would be fascinating if someone did a study on this, because all of what we're discussing is conjecture and personal experience. None of my women friends, who are all straight, have penis-shaped vibrators. Most of the top-selling vibrators looks like eggs, or some oddball shape, with some sort of hangy thing that stimulates clitorises. I've never heard that penis-shaped vibrators outperform these things. I think they're party gags and I've heard that lesbians do strap-ons for a dominance lark. But not because they want to be with men. That's all I know and all I can relate. The few gay women I know use the popular-styled vibrators. I dont know anyone who does strap-ons, or uses dick vibrators in any case. Cheers!

[ChefPapiChulo]

@Screenwriter “Just as some men using pocket-pussies are gay. “ Why would a gay guy use a pocket pussy if they’re gay?

[Screenwriter]

@Mac-One Penises might fit into female sex organs, but they do not necessarily cause orgasms in females and most mature males know this. Dildos have all kinds of shapes that do not look like penises. A famous one is a vibrating egg. Ben-wa balls are, well balls. Nothing like penises. Nothing wrong with a dildo looking like a penis for effect, or for amusement. But doesn't determine the user's sexuality.

[Screenwriter]

This is my last time. Because it feels good. Not because it looks like a female organ. Or maybe it's a kinky thrill. There is no telling. But if a man's chief orientation is toward men, but there's a device that works better than a silicone penis, the logical choice is function over form. Ta da! At least, that is my choice. Am I a lesbian because I DON'T choose a penis-looking vibrator? Don't think so! Best regards.

[provokeesmokee]

Yes, ffs.

Internal stimulation is still pleasurable, you absolute knob.

Also no man's dick can accomplish the wonders silicone can. But y'know, if you wanna try to rib or twist your own cock for her pleasure... Knock yourself out.

Also, though. Hng. Using a strap on just feels powerful.

Dildos are sex toys. You straight boys oughta try 'em out sometime.

[ChefPapiChulo]

but why is it shaped like a penis?

[Mac-One]

Enjoying penetration with a dildo does not make her a non-lesbian.

[Levin]

Well, when you use your buttplug, does that make you gay?

[ChefPapiChulo]

actually it would, unironically.

[Screenwriter]

A dildo is not a man. It is a device that enables a woman to have an orgasm through vibrations. If it were shaped like a flying saucer, no one would say the woman had the hots for aliens, would they?

[ChefPapiChulo]

well you're assuming that aliens would fly in something that resembles a flying saucer. which you have no idea is true. if it were in the shape of something else then i dont think this question would apply tho.

[Screenwriter]

You are obsessed with the incidental outer shape of a device that enables female orgasm. It doesn't matter what form it takes. And anyway it is NOT a penis. It is a rubber covering over a mechanical device. If it were an ACTUAL penis, I'd say you have a point. These women aren't using it because it LOOKS like a penis. They are using it to have an orgasm. The device isn't erotic. The result is. I suppose there are some women who want a penis shaped vibrator and that enhances with experience. I don't think it matters to most. It's what the device does. A rubber penis exterior is nothing like an actual penis. Not even close. It's what goes on in the woman's head that is erotic. The fake penis look is nearly ludicrous. comic.. maybe it gives lesbians a laugh.

[ChefPapiChulo]

obsessed?

[Screenwriter]

Who cares what a dildo looks like. It indicates nothing about a person's sexual orientation. Do you know how many different shapes they come in? Does my using a knob shaped dildo mean I'm in love with knobs? Does using some other weird shaped dildo mean I'm attracted to whatever that looks like? No. It's a practical DEVICE. WhatEVER it looks like is not the point. What it DOES is the point. Women close their eyes and imagine who or what they want is doing whatever to them. They are not thinking about the device. I think those penis looking dildos are absurd. They don't look nor feel real. I think they're jokes. Maybe you've seen them used in pornos and think that means something if lesbians are using them. It doesn't. Women choose them because they work well. In a porno, I suppose penis dildos are used because straight men watch said vids.

[ShesRad80]

if she only has sex with girls then yup still lesbian, toys are irrelevant when determining sexuality.

[ChefPapiChulo]

how does that work? if a dildo is the shape of a dick.

[gothbxtch]

…yes?

[coffeelovergirl]

Haha, this is funny (in a good way) question. 100% yes. The fact that she needs a dildo is just physical, she literally needs it, but if she is attracted to women, dildo does not make she less gay :D

[ChefPapiChulo]

since when is something funny in a bad way?

[coffeelovergirl]

Since when a person is asking and you’re making fun of them, that’s not funny ;)

[ChefPapiChulo]

Why would you have the need to mention that?

[Anonymous]

The site is dead.

[ChefPapiChulo]

this has nothing to do with my question.

[Opinion Owner]

You're helping to kill it.

[ChefPapiChulo]

How can I kill something that is already dead?

[Opinion Owner]

The site is dying because of questions like yours. I actually think that's a good thing. You asked a really stupid question, and then talked about critical thinking not once, but twice in your updates.

[ChefPapiChulo]

I accidentally sent the update twice. Do you know what critical thinking is? Do you know how to apply it?

[Opinion Owner]

Everyone thinks you're an idiot, so you blame that on their lack of critical thinking. lol

[ChefPapiChulo]

so you dont know what it means to apply critical thinking?

[Opinion Owner]

I just know that you don't seem to have that ability. Lesbians aren't sexually attracted to me. How hard is that to understand?

[ChefPapiChulo]

So you don't know what it is, but you know that I don't know what it is? Makes a lot of sense.

[Opinion Owner]

I know exactly what it is, and you don't have that skill.

[ChefPapiChulo]

I didn't ask you if you thought I have that skill.

[Opinion Owner]

You're asking others to have a skill that you obviously don't have. Everyone disagrees with you. Do you any smart people who can explain to you what a lesbian is?

[ChefPapiChulo]

I'm not asking anyone to have that skill. I'm asking if you know what it is.

[Anonymous]

Absolutely. I'm a lesbian myself but I do enjoy dildos and a strapon being used. I did enjoy sex with a man, the penis part. My girlfriend she's not really into dildos are strapons, she prefers oral, vibrators and masturbation.