I don't take girls on dinner dates prior to having established a relationship with her - we might go for ice cream and perhaps some activity (bowling, pool, shooting, a sporting event, etc.). These early dates are for setting up lots of conversation, so we can get to know each other and see if there is any interest and viability of being in an actual relationship. I intentionally keep my expenses low, and also my expectations of her. This actually makes most women more comfortable, with only the more entitled girls throwing a tantrum that they're not getting an expensive date (which I look at as them doing me a favor, so I don't waste any more time or effort or money on them).
Dinner dates are for relationships, and, yes, I'm going to expect sex, but probably no more than she is.
Having said that, men who DO take women on dinner & drinks dates, especially within the first 3 dates, are absolutely expecting to get sex as a result. The more he pays out, the higher his expectations of sex are going to be. All women should understand this: men don't pay for stuff like this for no reason - they pay FOR a reason, and that reason is sex.
If you don't want to give a guy sex, then never accept any more than one drink from him (a single drink obligates you to a 5 minute conversation with him, and nothing more unless YOU want more), and certainly don't accept a dinner date or anything else expensive. If you choose to take a bunch of stuff from him (i. e., he's paying for multiple drinks, appetizers, meals, etc.), then you are essentially telling him that he's getting laid. If that's not the message you want to send, then don't accept his food, drink, etc.
I absolutely don't condone this, but you need to realize that 1 or 2% of guys who do this might get angry enough at being refused that he - ahem - takes what he wants anyway. Women need to realize that they take a risk if they're accepting a bunch of stuff from a man (especially a virtual stranger), and those women who think it's cute to fleece a guy for a bunch of free stuff and then giggle and refuse him may find themselves in a horrible situation. I certainly would never want that to happen to anyone, but it's not up to me - it's up to the women making those decisions.
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If I invite a girl on a date, I expect to pay. She honored me by accepting my invitation and I want her to have a lovely time.
My hope is that we enjoy each other's company and want to have another date.
If we kiss before we part, it's a good sign.
I don't "expect" a BJ or sex. I'd be surprised if she offered after the first date. And I wouldn't ask her for sex.
If I got signals that she was into sucking dick, I'd go for it and I wouldn't think less of her. But if she wanted to fuck, I'd have to assume that she was a slut who wouldn't be good committed relationship material. I'd fear that she might have a disease after fucking every guy she went on a first date with.0 0 0 0
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(79)I wouldn’t expect anything, just to have a nice date and see how we get on. A second date would be lovely of course.
0 0 0 0Depends what type of girl she is. If she's a hoe def head on the first date. If she's a good girl then a thank you and hopefully a second date
0 0 0 0I don't pay for a woman's food or drinks. Cause I'm not a simp. Simps bribe women into liking them. Real men don't spend money on a woman. That's why they're real men. - Ron Swanson, probably.
Option E: Other. I don't spend money on women unless she's rated 4 stars and up on Eros. 0 0 0 0No, of course not. First dates are interviews, I would never expect anything in return, that would be twisted.
0 0 0 0I would err on the side of nothing, but there are expectations.
At the bottom of the barrel is appreciation- she has to at least say thank you, and be engaged through the date. We may not be a good fit, but if I'm paying for your meal/ drinks you need to stay off your phone.
Second, there is the hope for a second date- otherwise the investment of money into the date will be counted as a complete loss- but this isn't an expectation. I'd rather spend $20 bucks on a coffee date that doesn't go anywhere, than $70 on two dates that don't go anywhere.
0 0 0 0The question is a bit situational, since what you might expect at the end of a 3rd/5th date would be very different to what you might expect at the end of a first date.
But the expectation isn't really linked to whether you pay for dinner or not. If you think it is, then you are treating your date like a hooker...0 0 0 0Another date. But the date before, I'll set the minimum bar: split the bill. Paying up is how I show a bit of my capability. But I too curious about how capable you are. I would see if you can and willing to invest anything on me. It's back and forth interactive relationship for me.
0 0 0 0A blowjob would be nice.. 😝 Just playin. I wouldn’t “expect” anything! I would hope that, if I was the kind of guy she found attractive and interesting, that she might be on for another date. But I wouldn’t be so presumptuous as to “expect” that. If she and I had an amazing time, and she wanted to get a little frisky afterward, I would love that. But no “expectations”. Just because I paid for everything doesn’t mean she owes me anything.
0 0 0 0I expect a sincere 'thank you' and nothing else.
0 0 0 0A kiss is always great... but it is her choice. Sure I have received handjobs and sex also but I do not expect anything.
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