Is it normal to look down on guys who are "players" ?

[Haha456]

I just met a really nice guy who told me that he "got away" with sleeping with women on first date for several times. By this, he means he used them for sex and never called back. Though he is really nice guy and helps people a lot, I can't help but judge him negatively on his character for such lack of respect for women on a sexual level. Taking advantage of others sexually is something that is not morally right.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Players of either gender, yeah I'd see them less... someone that 'uses' others to their own advantage is not a good person.

Even if they let him do it, unless of course this was a agreed up on hookup and a one time thing. He likely lead them on to think he was interested in them for more than sex. Which to me is deceptive and lying. Thus someone who is deceptive and a liar is someone I think of as less.

[CasaNorba]

first off you can't "use people for sex."

if those women expect he would call back and stick around just because they had sex with him then jokes on them for believing that having one night of sex with the guy means he's entitleted to commit to their asses

[Haha456]

you're not supposed to date someone you're using for sex in the first place. IF you're gonna date them, it means you must have romantic intentions.

[CasaNorba]

again you can't used people for sex. both the man and the woman must come to an agreement before having sex and sex pleasure both party. so nobody used anybody. also what planet do you live in? people nowadays go out on dates for numerous of reasons, one of them being to get to know the person they are dating. so if you think your entitled to receive romantic intentions from a guy just because you're dating him then you are one delusional person

[Haha456]

its immoral to trick someone that you like them so that they will have sex with you. because if you didn't trick her, she wouldn't wanted to have sex with you. sex is upon certain conditions.

[CasaNorba]

nope, he did not trick you. you had the option to say No or wait. so if you had sex with him and expected something more than just the sex itself then you are a prostitute. or maybe worst cause last time I checked prostitute just want money. you in the other hand your looking for instant relationship and emotional support that you are not entitled to

[Haha456]

yes he did trick her. Misleading others for sex is a form of violation regardless if you like it or not.

[CasaNorba]

and having sex with someone and expecting that a true and instant relationship is gonna come out of it makes is a form of delusion and self-entitlement

[Haha456]

@CasaNorba i think you are entitled to think that you are entitled to sex with every woman.

[CasaNorba]

when did I say that? regardless I never have sex with women I date for this same exact reason. cause here in the part of America that I live at women are exactly like you. thinking that one night of sex is a precursor to a relationship that is why I fuck real #prostitutes

[Haha456]

I never sex said was the precursor to a relationship. I said it was immoral to trick or mislead people by faking love in order to have sex with them. Because reality is , there are a lot of women out there who do not like to sleep around.

[CasaNorba]

you might not of said but your attitude is giving you away at full blast honey. aside from thinking that you also think that dating itself is an act of romance when in reality it does not work this way. the purpose behind dating is to get to know the person and see if whether that person is what you really are looking that's relationship material, it doesn't mean you're automatically to receive romance and commitment from that person. its very similar to a job interview, just because you went to a job interview does not mean you're gonna get that job automatically unless the employer who interviewed you was impressed and saw that you meet all the requirement to work the job. also it makes you sound somewhat of a hypocrite to claim that there are women there who do not like to sleep around because most women do love to sleep around just as long as they're getting luxury out of sleeping around such as free dinner, free gas rides, free favors, etc. its when they dont get any of that they decide to bitch and whine about "being used for sex" as you are now and just because you dont like to sleep around does not mean you deserve to be treated like a princess

[Haha456]

Kissing her hand, telling her she is beautiful and acting as if you are excited to see her again for the next date (WHEN YOU REALLY HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF SEEING HER AGAIN), just so you can sleep with her... is a form of deceiving and lying. I don't give a shit what sort of lame excuses you come up with. [also it makes you sound somewhat of a hypocrite to claim that there are women there who do not like to sleep around because most women do love to sleep around just as long as they're getting luxury out of sleeping around such as free dinner, free gas rides, free favors, etc. its when they dont get any of that they decide to bitch and whine about "being used for sex" as you are now] nobody is forcing you to pay for her dinner, pay for her gas, driving her home. No woman would ever force you to do these things. Its purely optional. And if you CHOOSE on your own will to do these things, you have no right to demand sex for her. Its a date, not prostitution. I can also tell from your attitude that you are just a plain old misogynist.

[Haha456]

@CasaNorba

[CasaNorba]

"Kissing her hand, telling her she is beautiful and acting as if you are excited to see her again for the next date (WHEN YOU REALLY HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF SEEING HER AGAIN), just so you can sleep with her... is a form of deceiving and lying. I don't give a shit what sort of lame excuses you come up with." yeah I agree, but then again if you actually fell for such horseshit then that's your fault for being a gullible idiot and thinking that you're special and no man can ever lie to you. I mean seriously, your profile says you are 30. I would thought that by now a 30 year old woman would be aware of this. "nobody is forcing you to pay for her dinner, pay for her gas, driving her home. No woman would ever force you to do these things. Its purely optional. And if you CHOOSE on your own will to do these things, you have no right to demand sex for her. Its a date, not prostitution." once again I agree with you on something and that its dating and not prostitution, however unfortunately most women today dont see it the same way as you. they usually never have problems being acting like actual prostitutes just as long as they're getting something in return and I'm aware I'm not entitled to get sex if I pay for dinner and gas rides, but again that is why I rather pay a real prostitute because at least prostitutes get to the point, give you their service and then leave you alone once they complete their service. unlike women like you who will no doubt get clingy and attached like a psycho after just one night of sex

[Haha456]

[yeah I agree, but then again if you actually fell for such horseshit then that's your fault for being a gullible idiot and thinking that you're special and no man can ever lie to you. I mean seriously, your profile says you are 30. I would thought that by now a 30 year old woman would be aware of this.] Her falling for it , does not make his deceptive actions moral. She is not guilty for falling for it. But he is guilty for lying to someone. Falling for it does not make anyone guilty. [once again I agree with you on something and that its dating and not prostitution, however unfortunately most women today dont see it the same way as you. they usually never have problems being acting like actual prostitutes just as long as they're getting something in return and I'm aware I'm not entitled to get sex if I pay for dinner and gas rides, but again that is why I rather pay a real prostitute because at least prostitutes get to the point, give you their service and then leave you alone once they complete their service. unlike women like you who will no doubt get clingy and attached like a psycho after just one night of sex] you were the one who insisted that if he pays for dinner then she must offer sex. you're the one who saw it as prostitution. its time for a misogynist woman hater like you to own up to your own words.

[CasaNorba]

no shit, when did I said it makes his act moral? but that is still her fault for believing his nonsense, there is no excuse for being stupid so no, STOP TRYING TO CREATE DOUBLE STANDARDS AND JUSTIFY WOMEN BEING STUPID AND INCOMPITENT. and again it does make you guilty if you fell for it because its your responsibility to EDUCATE yourself and learn from your mistake. nobody in the world is entitlted to change for you and no I did not say any of that. all I said was that most women like 90% of them at least do not have a problem paying back with sex when you take them out for dinner and gas rides. so no maybe is time for a spoiled feminized brat like you to stop justify your stupidity and accept that nobody has to change the way the live or do things for you.

[Haha456]

Angry name calling does not prove that you see dating as a prostitution where the woman must offer sex when the man offers to buy her a meal on a date. Nobody is ever forcing you to buy her anything on a date. why do you expect your wife to take your last name after the wedding, if you wouldn't even buy her a meal on a date? there is nothing that justifies lying to a woman to sleep with you. Her being gullible does not make your deception a moral thing

[Haha456]

[no shit, when did I said it makes his act moral? but that is still her fault for believing his nonsense, there is no excuse for being stupid so no, STOP TRYING TO CREATE DOUBLE STANDARDS AND JUSTIFY WOMEN BEING STUPID AND INCOMPITENT. and again it does make you guilty if you fell for it because its your responsibility to EDUCATE yourself and learn from your mistake. nobody in the world is entitlted to change for you] are women supposed to have a CRYSTAL BALL to check whether or not you're lying? I think you need to quit your entitlement in thinking that you have THE RIGHT TO TRICK WOMEN to sleep with you.

[CasaNorba]

you are aware that this post is 10 days old right? the fact that you're still commenting reveals how fed up you are. till then I'm done here, I'm not gonna do you that favor anymore. if you want yeah continue to respond I'll let you have the last words if that's all it takes to make you feel better and shut you up as a bonus

[Haha456]

you're clearly a misogynist.

[HSalenko]

Yes, especially from your perspective that were he not honest with you, you'd be one of his victims.

[LazerBean]

Yes.

[Midgetmcwidget]

Yes I do it to.

[MikeTheBartender]

Of course. We are not good long term bets. But as far as tonight goes... Wanna get a drink?

[FilmGuy93]

Yeah, that's pretty normal.

[AsaKyo]

Yeah, they're dumbasses

[YHL6965]

I kind of dislike this way of being too as I find it exploitative, but I have a bit of respect and admiration for being able to pull that off. Like how do they do that?

[Haha456]

its not that hard. you just have to show her that you are interested in her, touch her

[YHL6965]

I doubt women are that easy to seduce into having sex so quickly.

[Haha456]

you doubt it because you lack experience with women. I'm experienced with men. I've seen all the sleazy tricks in the game.

[YHL6965]

Is it really that easy? I have never really tried such things as it's not my kind of thing but I did not know it was that easy.

[Haha456]

trust me , its easier than it looks.

[YHL6965]

Isn't touch kind of risky, especially nowadays? What kind of touch are you talking about?

[Haha456]

You need social skills, charisma, and how to read people before you touch her. You dont just to up to random women and start touching them.

[YHL6965]

Yes, obviously but touch like pats on the shoulder and all can have drastically different reactions depending on the person, even in similar contexts, and I'm not even talking about more "personal" kind of touch.

[Haha456]

you would need to know how to talk to people and read people before you grab a woman in the ass. Just because you don't have social skills , it doesn't mean vast majority of men are also like you. I'm not gonna sit here and write an entire course on it for you either. I've seen how men do it. They've done it to me. And there are more women who are open to sleeping around than you think.

[Zolly99999]

Yes..

[EaterPeter]

Absolutely, why not?

[Wiggleking]

Yes there trash guys that will defend themselves any way they can only way it’s ok to be a player is if you weren’t in a relationship with anybody

[Anonymous]

He sounds like a real jerk