Is rape EVER justified if he/she was "asking for it"?

Keeping with the rape theme of my last question, I really want to know what people think on this subject as well. As you'll likely see (if you were on my last question) there was a gent who claimed being fucked while unconscious was "fake" and if you put yourself in said situation, clearly, it isn't rape.

Won't state my opinion there, just providing you context. It inspired this current question.

So, it got me to thinking: is there EVER a situation where someone is very literally just "asking for it?"

The first story that came to mind was an old news story I read some years ago I believe, where a woman's shower wasn't working in her apartment, so she told her landlord/neighbour. This guy said she could use his shower, but ONLY if she agreed to shower with him. She agreed, and apparently he raped her during this encounter. I'll try to find the story to include in the updates.

I remember hearing this story and very literally asking myself whether this was actually rape, because the story didn't add up. To me, I would assume agreeing to shower with someone, naked, in their house, would have a sexual connotation to it. However, seeing as the definition of rape has clear lines that state if you say no, and someone continues, it's still rape.

Before anyone loses their shit: I don't think rape is justifiable. I do believe there are obvious situations where you can avoid danger, but it doesn't make it okay for anyone to rape you. This is just for discussion's sake.
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  • Rape is never justified under any circumstances.

  • nope there isn't. i just saw some person on here yesterday claiming that you can't rape a guy because he wouldn't get hard if he didn't want it. Therefore if the guy gets hard during a rape he really wants it.

    so that was b. s.

    • Ya, some people are stupid. Men can be drugged or drunk and so unable to consent. + it sounds similar to the argument that was shot down in the past about women who have orgasms can't be raped. + have these people ever heard of viagra?

    • @nathanp97 That, and some men, like women, are more sensitive than others. People's bodies can involuntarily respond to stimulation. As well, there's more than one kind of rape. A man can also be raped anally either by another man or a woman with an object.

    • @ChronicThinker Or forced to penetrate.

  • I had a friend recently who was almost blackout drunk and her fuck buddy starting trying to fuck her.

    She kept saying no, for him to get off, and it only took her yelling in his face "you're raping me" for him to snap out of it and pull out.

    He refuses to apologize to her because he thinks since she didn't say their safe word, and he "didn't believe" she was drunk.

    While he's an absolute retard, I don't think he was malicious. The only thing that baffles me is that nobody would ever want to be in a situation where they could be accused of rape, yet why couldn't he apologize?

    There's a point where you need to look yourself in the mirror and ask "am I above getting away with rape?" and if the answer is no then you need to seek some sort of center of empathy.

    Rape is sexual intercourse without consent, that's a no Brainerd. But what baffles me the most about it is that people put in the effort to have sex with an unconscious person rather than just beating it off in the bathroom.

    Having sex with someone while their asleep (whether they say no or nothing) is objectively using a human being as a jizzing tool. And this is assuming it's your S. O, making it way more idiotic if it's a complete stranger.

    And it not only makes you a scumbag sexual deviant, it makes you the most pathetic type of rapists.

    I'm about to get dark, but imagine someone you thought you trusted (or not whatever) forcing themselves on you in your sleep, waking up to the feeling of being used as someone's blow up doll.

    Imagine having to sleep after that, not knowing if you'll be able to sleep in peace. That's what that shit does to people.

    And to just wave it off as a simple mistake makes you an emperor of retardation.

  • If you allowed anon on this question i would have told you what i thought and the reasons why

  • RAPE is never justified.. When I confronted one of the people on your last question, he blocked me. That person seemed to be ok with rape as long as he was able to justify it.. How can anyone justify having sex with someone that has not consented? Who deserves the violence of RAPE? How can you live with yourself?

    • Just saying, if someone (in my case a woman) murdered a member of my family, and I would be denied justice for some reason - say, corrupt jurisdiction -, and I was PURELY PHYSICALLY attracted to this particular murderer, I would say rape is one form of justified punishment for her crimes. Is it a nice thing to do? Most certainly not. But neither is killing people, and most people certainly agree that killing from revenge can be justified on a moral level. And I'd argue killing someone is in most cases worse than rape.

    • @Benedek38 Face Palm.. LOL

    • That's... not actually an argument. But I see we have fundamentally opposing viewpoins.

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  • That scenario, seems like your implying that if you consent to shower naked with someone, you consent to serial Congress as well. So that redefining rape is something that happens in a physical attack. It all seems stupid. Can't really answer this question.

  • Rape in itself isn’t justified no. But the context and circumstances around it is what’s more important. If your having sex with someone and the immediately say they don’t want it anymore. Is that considered rape? You have your consent in the beginning. Also, if things are leading the way they are and the man or women blacks out because they were too drunk but did give there consent before, is that considered rape? Yes, there are clear cut rape cases. But some are murky and need to be interpreted. And that’s where he benefit of the doubt basically favors the woman in that situation

  • No it isn't. but lets define rape. because bullshit like consenting when drunk isn't getting raped. at the most its being fucking stupid

  • Well seriously no rape is never justified. No matter the circumstance.
    The lady not wanting sex in the shower is a bit crazy. She still has a right to say no the guy is wrong thinking she wanted sex. Just because a girl is in a sexy outfit doesn't means she wants the guy.
    There is no good excuse for rape.
    Women have no right to rape men either.

  • Rape is a crime. regardless!

  • Asking for it is consent, right?

  • Yes. Rape is justified in prison when the target is a child murderer or rapist. Ok... Still not justified, but I have little sympathy for child killers and pedos

  • How does one "ask for rape"?

  • I know of one strange story from my college days. There was a girl who used to hang with our group who showed up one Monday morning claiming she'd been raped by a guy we all knew. Apparently, she'd hooked up with him at a party over the weekend. Long story short, one of the guys took her to the PD to press charges. Before she'd finished her story, she recanted. It seems that while she and that guy were only a few minutes into getting it on, she suddenly decided she wanted to stop. Under Virginia law back at that time, there was no stipulation on the law that considered it rape once consent had been given or implied.
    To this day, I question whether she was "raped" or simply had second thoughts.

  • I feel like this was an unnecessary question.

  • And people say I try to hard to troll on this site. This is a whole new level of BuLlShIt

    • Aw, how cute.

  • there is no such thing as asking for it

  • if, as you say, some1 is literally asking for it, then its not really rape. but in general, asking for it isn't an exuse

  • its not okay only in role play

  • Never

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