It is time for women to stop encouraging each other's unnaceptable sexual behaviors toward men and boys.

[Anonymous]

From my personal experience feom high schools to colleges, women do encourage and cover each others whens sexually harassing or assaulting a man. They cheer seeing a friend slap a man's/waiter's ass in clubs and laugh at personal and intimate details about their boyfriends they tell each others. This has become a part of that "female empowerent " mindset. I for the moment mostly am friend with guys since I work in a male dominated field (and thrown away my female friends acting like that) but I find it extremely worrying for my future children.

The worst I heard from women when I was in college was when stories about boys raped by their high school teachers were published. From "they should be happy" (as if men were animals in heat) to "at least they know what it is like to be women" or "men have done for thousand of years", passing by "it is okay when it is a female teacher, because it is love", I have heard a ton of horrible things.

Not only women should hold each other accountable but it is time society does it too. Female sexual offenders are given a pass from police, courts and their social circle. Plenty of people with (rightfully) point out the men commenting "where was she when I was in high school" (though I believe most of them are simply joking). But I see more people shiting on men using those handful of comments as if they were serious proof of how men think than people talking about the real issue : women raping boys. I also see the female comments on how it is not the same, that it is getting back at men for oppression or other stupid takes like this ignored.

[bamesjond0069]

I disagree with you and I agree with at least the blurb from the guardian article. Men and women's sexual harassment behavior is not the same. If a man slaps a woman's ass or a woman slaps a man's ass it's totally different.

Now I think the laws are very fucked both too strict and too lax in regards to a lot of these sexual issues.

So about the woman sleeping with a 15 year old, if he consents then it's fine in my opinion. Now if she tricks him to get pregnant, he should not be liable for that. In fact I think child support is the worst thing to happen to children in our modern age. She did cheat though and or is a single mom, so she should be facing consequences of those actions.

A man who sleeps with a young Virgin but it's consensual took something from the girl but if she's been fucking every boy at the high school he didn't take anything from her. So that's one thing that I don't think is appropriately accommodated for in the laws. Yet this aspect should not apply in the reverse.

The point of being male is to be strong and our sexual innocence (for normal adult relationships and flirting) is not valued, in fact experience is valued. So a woman slapping your ass is just how it is. I don't know what the big deal is. If that makes you cry, your the deficient fucked up one.

On the other hand women are valued for their innocence and purity and so a man intimately touching a woman is a big deal. That being said, If she's a slut I don't agree it is a big deal anymore. Ie a woman comes out of a bar where 15 men had their way with her. A bystander who saw but did not participate grabs her ass. While I said above a man grabbing a woman sexually is wrong. In this case i think it's not.

[HSalenko]

Lighten up, Francis.

[oddwaffle]

A man chooses. A slave obeys. Man can choose to be strong or weak but a slave will always obeys whatever society tells him. That's what wrong with you and you don't realized it because you can't fight back against what's considered the norm. Why is it that a man innocent is not valued? Why can't we value it? Why does a man has to be strong and take it. Why can't he fight back?

[Anonymous]

"Do you believe that a female teacher sleeping with a male student is as bad as a male teacher sleeping with a girl? asked Barbara Ellen. “I don’t—and neither, I’d wager, would most 15-year-old boys.”"

As someone who was in that 15-year old boy's shoes (I was actually 16), this ^ comment by Barbara Ellen disgusts me. She's trying to justify women committing statutory rape by saying the boy wants it, which is obviously completely beside the point of the law. How many men have gone to prison for having consensual sex with an underage girl who wanted it, or thought she did at the time? I'm sure the answer is in the thousands.

But the real point of the law is to protect young people from the lasting emotional issues they typically have as a result of having underage sex with an adult when they are too young to understand it. This is something I still struggle with more than a decade later. I regret what happened even though I wanted it at the time.

I agree with the MyTake owner that we need to stop giving women a pass on their bad behavior. While I'm glad the law in the UK punishes the crime the same regardless of the sex of the victim or offender, society lags far behind because many people still hold the same views Ellen does, which is disgusting. But more importantly, we need to call out feminism for its sexism and double standards. If you read the article by Ellen, who is a staunch feminist, that typically-feminist sexism comes through loud and clear.

https://theweek.com/articles/498907/united-kingdom-when-okay-sleep-student

[CrazyGirl2]

1 of 2 AMEN!!! I am shocked, by the ridiculous beliefs of the OP, and by some of the answers of those who both agree, and some who disagree but for entirely the wrong reasons! I am so sorry that you were sexually assaulted as a 16yo, I was raped by an uncle on my 13th birthday. After a few years of intensive one-on-one therapy, I joined a mixed-sex group. I was surprised to see just how many guys were there, I mean some were big muscular 16 and 17yo guys whom some had been raped by adult women, one by a female teacher. Their physiques were precisely what attracted the late twenties/ early thirty-something women. The damage both emotionally and psychologically inflicted on these guys was profound. They all said that at the time they thought they were the luckiest guys in town, or in school for “getting to bang” Ms. so-and-so, or Mrs so-and-so. But they were completely unprepared for the complex emotional and psychological damage they were about to experience!

[CrazyGirl2]

2 of 2 I am SO tired both of the attitudes men AND women have toward the statutory rape of boys, and the lenient treatment these female perps receive in the courts! Now journalists are promoting the acceptance of sex with children! This has to end! I truly wish you did not write this anonymously as I would love to have spoken with you privately about this. Thank you for your sane rational statement on child rape. Nobody deserves what you (or I) went through, and I find it disgusting that while I get innumerable replies saying how sorry they are that I went through what I did when I write about what happened to me, but nobody wrote you to say how sorry they were to hear about what you went through. Well I am extremely sorry that you had to go through that, and I hope you are okay. Take care. Also, feel free to both follow and DM me, but please be patient with me as I will assume that many guys will pretend to be you, so I will obviously be suspicious at first.

[DoctorSex]

The amount of sexual assault I received as a bouncer in my early 20s was crazy. At least 5 cases of sexual assault per shift.

It undermines everything that the women's movement fought for because it shows, women are no better than men when given the unchecked social freedoms that men historically have been allocated in the west. Infact I'd say women are fae worse. They'd say creepy things like,

"Common, you know you really like it"

[Summeroflove]

You need to file police reports.

[StrongMale]

As a man who was sexually abused by a woman as a boy from age 10 to 16, I can personally speak to this. Yes, boys do experience sexual abuse differently than girls. The main difference is that boys, obviously, have a penis. So when sexual abuse is perpetrated against boys by women, it almost always involves an erection by physiological manipulation. So the implication that Barbara Ellen makes in her horrifying article which excuses the female sexual abuse of boys, is that, because a boy becomes erect during sexual abuse by a woman, he must be aroused, and therefore surely must be enjoying it. This completely despicable line of reasoning on her part clearly demonstrates her complete lack of any understanding of budding male sexuality, and how the sexual abuse of a boy by a woman damages him physiologically. I won’t go into all the details, but trust me when I say that being sexually abused by a woman as a growing boy fucked up my life for years, and left permanent affects on my sexuality as a man. So FUCK HER for her disgusting article in support of female sexual abuse of boys. Women who sexually abuse underage boys should not be given a legal pass because they are female, and certainly not because of the false notion that the sexual abuse of a boy is less damaging than the sexual abuse of a girl.

[myTake Owner]

Also the woman can simply threaten the boy to let her touch him. Physical stimulation is very likely to be enough to get the boy erect.

[StrongMale]

Exactly. Boys are especially vulnerable to becoming erect with very little stimulation. In my case, I became erect just from being forced to show my penis to my abuser. She never even touched me (that day). It really screwed with my head that I was becoming erect against my will. It confused me and made me ashamed, and caused me to think that I must have liked it somehow.

[Summeroflove]

Those women are degenerates. I know some cops. They don’t like sexual harassment or sexual assault. Be a man or a woman. Does not matter.

You will be in handcuffs or at least if it’s a misdemeanor be given a summons. Do not do this.

Obviously not all women are like this and neither are all men.

People who sexually harass or sexually assault unfortunately are usually not held accountable the first time they do it.

They learn. They can get away with it and some people don’t say anything or even are okay with someone doing this kind of thing… Yeah.

Until they one day fuck around with the wrong person and find out.