Male / female - Dominance / submission and gender equality.

Male and female Roles
beautiful female submission
beautiful female submission

Over the course of several decades of observation, sexual and non-sexual interactions with many women, countless conversations with both men and women, and lots of education and learning, I have reached a few conclusions about the concepts of Male/female gender roles, Dominance/submission and gender equality. I will begin by sharing my conclusions and then I will explain how I came to them.


To begin, it is my experience that most males are naturally dominant and most females are naturally submissive. There are, of course, exceptions, but I believe this is the norm. I also believe this norm is what nature intended. As for gender roles and equality, let me just come out and say it - males and females are not equal. Now I know that some will, no doubt, take issue with this comment, but try to keep an open mind and hear me out. So here is how I came to these conclusions...

Gender Genetics
females and males are not the same
females and males are not the same

As a general rule, when males and females are born they are not equal, but different. Males are born with over twice the muscle mass of females, while females are born with over twice the fat cells. Males are also born with denser bones, a larger skull, and a larger brain. All human embryos begin with the same “equipment“, and that equipment is essentially female at the start. It is the Y chromosome that causes the embryo to go a step further and develop into a male. What would become the clitoris becomes the penis and joins with the urethra. What would be the ovaries become testicles, and what would become the outer labia of the vulva forms into a scrotum and seals together down the middle, which forms that little scar down the center of all guys’ balls called the scrotal raphe. So, even from the very beginning, inside the womb, males and females are not ‘equal’. Beyond that, generally speaking, males are genetically and physically larger, stronger, faster, and far more physical and aggressive than their female counterparts. From a brain standpoint, males are inherently more adept analytical thinkers. Whereas females are far more skilled at intuitive, multifaceted thinking. Obviously, there are exceptions to all this, but again, generally speaking, this proves to be the norm where men and women are concerned. It is my conclusion that the reason we men and women are made the way we are is for the sake of procreation. The design of our genders is on purpose and goes back to the beginning of our evolution as a species...

Primitive Sexuality

primitive male and female
primitive male and female

In order for us to propagate, the primitive male needed to be strong enough and fast enough to “overcome“ a primitive female for the sake of breeding. Another propagation characteristic of primitive males is the primal need for the male to “breed“ with more than one female, thus “spreading his seed“ and further propagating the species. Whereas the primitive female was imbued with the “homing/nurturing“ instinct, for the sake of protecting her offspring and, again, helping to procure the propagation of our species. These inherent physical characteristics remain with us today. What has changed is our intellectual social norms. In my observation it is this “primitive wiring“ that often conflicts with these social norms that expect or require sexual monogamy. This is why over half of all marriages fail, I believe. Many men ultimately fall prey to their internal, primitive wiring for propagation and wander outside of their monogamous relationships. I also believe this inherent conflict creates a fair amount of sexual frustration for many men. So, to reiterate, from the beginning of human evolution, to our beginnings in the womb, males and females are not “equal“. So, this is where I need to make a clarification. I am not at all implying that men and women should not be treated as equal partners in modern society. They most certainly should. Men are not better than women and women are not better than men. Each gender deserves equal respect, while also understanding the reality that the two are not equally made. Men and women are not the same. We are different. And that is natural, and intentional. This is where public social gender roles, and biological, genetic, and physical gender roles diverge. And this is where the concepts of sexual dominance and submission come into play. Let me elaborate...

The Art of Sexual Attraction

female attractiveness = male sexual attention
female attractiveness = male sexual attention

The modern social norms that require “equality“ between the sexes ignore and belie our primitive wiring for propagation. Thus, a woman who, in her public life, wields significant power and perhaps, even an alpha personality, often secretly desires to be “taken“ sexually by an assertive, dominant man, and rendered submissive. I have encountered many women who find that they are most sexually aroused when they are in the submissive role with a man. Sexually dominant women are the exception to the rule, and it is my sneaking suspicion that many are mostly entertaining a “kink“ as opposed to experiencing their naturally submissive sexual nature. I should say here that I do not view female sexual submission as an admission by a woman of her inferiority to men. On the contrary, I see it as a natural and beautiful expression of acceptance of her female sexuality, and I find that women who embrace it feel, ironically, sexually liberated. Another vestige of our primitive sexuality is the inherent desire in women to attract male sexual attention. That, again, is part and parcel of the female wiring for propagation of our species. Primitive females, like their male counterparts, wanted sex. They wanted to breed. As such, the female wanted to attract male sexual interest. That remains with us today. You can see it in the myriad of ‘tools’ our society has constructed for women to attract the highly visual sexual attention of men: colored lipstick, makeup, high heeled shoes, plunging necklines, pushup bras, revealing swimwear, short skirts and shorts, lingerie, thongs, fishnet stockings and so on.. all things women don and wear to make them look more attractive. It is significant to note that most of these items are not entirely “comfortable“ for women to wear, but most do it anyway. The ultimate result (and subconscious intent), is male sexual attention. Again, the primal urge is still with us.

In Conclusion
In conclusion, it is my assertion that the majority of males are sexually dominant and the majority of females are sexually submissive, naturally speaking. And when men and women interact sexually in that way, we are tapping into the most primitive and pure vestiges of our sexuality. In modern times, we may certainly experiment and play with sexual roles and role reversal. This is all part of the fun of sex! But I believe we are most true to our inherent gender sexuality when the male is in the dominant role and the female is in the submissive role. Speaking for myself, I can tell you there is nothing more sexually exciting to me than expressing myself dominantly with a sexually liberated submissive woman. And I do not look down on her as “inferior“ for being true to her natural sexual submissiveness with me. On the contrary, I find it incredibly sexy and strong! And lastly, I want to reiterate that, by stating that males and females are not “equal“ I am not implying that one or the other is inferior. I am simply stating that males and females are unique and beautifully different in their innate sexual gender roles and that what we think about gender equality in public society does not always align with the inner truth of our natural gender sexuality.


I would love to hear articulate thoughts and comments from members of both sexes about this ‘My Take’!

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  • I agree, except for your use of the ‘equal’ word. To me men and women are equal, but yes (very) different! Equal in inherent worth and dignity.
    Men saying they want submissive women is just non sense to me, or they should say explicitly that they want submission in bed, cause women don’t get it otherwise - if I was submissive in life I would be sleeping under a bridge, how sexy is that… however my true core/primal sexual fantasies are definitely all around submission and I recognize that now, which I didn’t before.

    also it’s funny that men find high heels and fishnet and stuff like that so sexy because they didn’t exist some time ago and yet it’s completely tied to primal instincts as you said!

    • @ca4444 I appreciate that you got what I was trying to articulate with this ‘My Take’. I completely agree with you, women and men are indeed “equal in inherent dignity and worth”. And you are right, when I speak of female submission, I am specifically referring to sexuality. I do not mean that women should be submissive in social, public life. I enjoy interacting with strong, intelligent, interesting women! My intention with this ‘My Take’ is to express that, based on my experience, I suspect that most women are naturally sexually submissive in their core/primal sexual nature, and that most men are naturally sexually dominant. And yes, it is interesting how items like fishnet stockings and high-heeled shoes are used to attract male attention when they didn’t exist all that long ago! ☺️

  • Well for me in order for sex to happen I need to love the guy and be in a committed relationship with the guy.

    • Are you a model?

    • Part time, yes. Why do you ask?

    • You have very professional portraits.

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  • "I am not at all implying that men and women should not be treated as equal partners in modern society. They most certainly should. Men are not better than women and women are not better than men. Each gender deserves equal respect, while also understanding the reality that the two are not equally made. Men and women are not the same. We are different. And that is natural, and intentional." "And lastly, I want to reiterate that, by stating that males and females are not “equal“ I am not implying that one or the other is inferior."

    So then why bother writing any of this? If you really believed that, then this topic would be moot. What you've listed in that section is basically an argument that men are superior. "Larger brain" is irrelevant in males, because it goes along with their larger mass in general, but has not resulted in better overall functioning. I've read about this in detail, and the implication of "larger brain" is debunked. If you want to get technical (biological), male intelligence encompasses the extremes - both the highest and the lowest scores - while female intelligence runs more in the middle, without the highs and lows. Female brains are also more wired cross-laterally (which has its own benefits and deficits, which I won't get into here again), while males' are less so. We could go at this back and forth all day, but the long and short of it is - tie/no winner/superiority.

    "Speaking for myself, I can tell you there is nothing more sexually exciting to me than expressing myself dominantly with a sexually liberated submissive woman."

    You and ~ 80% of men. Of 100% of men ~ 80% of the time. And, that's not a liberated woman, it's a traditional, typical, woman.

    Sorry, StrongMale. Typically when I read something I do not agree with or find little positive or constructive to say I simply walk on and do not comment. But in this case you invited me to comment, so I was torn, but decided (just barely) to comment, so that you know I've at least given it some time and thought.

    But I found this information very basic (for me, at least), and quite surface, and a little biased. I think you're a clear writer, and I have praised it and you a few times now, but what I haven't yet said is that you defend and justify the male POV often, but I'm not sure that you get or fully understand the female perspective that correlates. While I don't believe, at all, in denigrating men for what I also believe is just human [male] nature, it is also understandable that there are just as many on the female side.

    • @amandayvr Your response (s) here clearly indicate (s) that you have misinterpreted my meaning with this ‘My Take’. I do not want to do a back-and-forth in public comments. If you wouldn’t mind messaging me, I would welcome the chance to clarify for you, and for me. ☺️

    • I have given it some thought, and decided that I do want to respond to your comment here, as I respectfully take issue with a lot of it. To begin, the concepts of social gender equality and sexual gender roles of male dominance / female submission certainly can, and do coexist. In my public social life, I view and treat women as full equals, and I loathe misogyny. I do not see women as socially or intellectually inferior to men. It’s only when the clothes come off that this gender dynamic changes for me; when the primal sexual dominance of superior masculine size and strength come into play. The male, made to penetrate, to thrust, give and fill; the female, made to spread, to open, take and receive. These things are obvious to me. Next, I only mentioned the difference in the male / female brain as it pertains to physical size. I never implied nor said anything about the size relating to a difference in intelligence. You read that into it. Furthermore, I agree with your assessment of the way male and female brains are wired. Lastly.. you are incorrect in assuming that I always defend and/or justify the male perspective. Many times I have defended and justified the female perspective, albeit to the best of my ability as a man, who cannot possibly fathom all that it means to be a woman. I do not always defend or justify the male view. But when I do, I do so because I am male. Sometimes, we guys, including me, are just plain wrong. I would never be so brazen as to purport to “get“ and/or “understand“ the female perspective, because I am not a woman. But I always do my very best to listen, learn and better appreciate the views, feelings and perspectives of all the women I interact with in my life, and that includes you. I have never patronized you, nor have I ever belittled your writing. I have always been respectful to you, and will continue to be, regardless of whether you are or not with me.

    • This exchange has been in the back of my mind for days now, and I do feel badly for how it went (and I take a lot of responsibility for that), though I really still don't know what I can say to make it nice (r). I'm sorry if you feel that I belittled or patronized you. I sincerely did not mean to do either. I wish now that I had just not answered the invite and written nothing. I think it was a mistake in judgment on my part. I don't think you are disrespectful or any of those other things, to females on here. I want to be clear on that. I didn't mean that you condemn them, either. But I've also never seen you defend or justify or even elaborate on the female perspective. I wasn't meaning that you are expected to; just that you write about how you want/wish females to understand male sexual motivations, nature, etc. but I don't know if you can see it from the other shoe. (If you have written on that, then again, my mistake, but again, I didn't come across it.) You wrote this shortly after our exchange on another's q about sexual abuse, being dominated, male anger, etc. I said "Men and women are different but equal." You said you were thinking of writing a mytake. So I know I prompted this, in part. You said here, "let me just come out and say it - males and females are not equal." It doesn't seem worth going back on forth on this further. We're still in the same place, and I don't really want to go deeper into that can of worms.

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  • without balance then nothing will go forward. Cellphones have become the biggest annoyance and piece of shit device ever made by human kind. Women hate men, but will love boys.. The fact that women keep taking advice from the internet to sleep at night is testament that fantasy land has taken over and enforced prejudice and all the boys and girls take pleasure in it.. while the men and women have to pay the consequence of their sick reality.. PEOPLE DO NOT FUNCTION WELL WITHOUT SLEEP

  • You are sexy and handsome guy! Men my age are a bunch of momma's boy. I would prefer a guy your age you know mature caring loving. This is why men your age are better!

    • Well, that is awful sweet of you to say! So, would you say you agree with my thoughts on this topic? 🤔

    • Yes I do 👍

    • Okay! Thanks for your comments! ☺️

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  • What to start off with?

    Prelude:

    I don't know where you came up with the idea of primitive human males have to essentially "force themselves" on potential mates. But I have never heard any evidence of this, and it is overall unlikely.

    Your depiction of a woman (?) kneeling with the caption "Beautiful female submission is revolting. It also betrays your thesis, as any activity happening in this arrangement has no biological reproductive value.

    The real issue, from my standpoint:

    After millions of years of history and evolution, we as a species should have transcended ALL "nature",

    Gender roles are pointless and passe'.

    We should seek liberation from societal norms and learn to enjoy life freely.

    Submission, Domination, these should be nothing more than fetish at this point.

    Computers are wired, not people. Instincts are for the lower animals, not human beings.

    Those among us with at least reasonably high IQ make decisions without reference to "wiring" or "instinct".

    Sexuality is not "natural" in a Human being. The very fact of our Sapience/Sentience negates ALL nature.

    The attraction to the whatever gender the person finds attractive, when it is no longer the result of organic "drives", but instead becomes (no equivalent word in English, best translation is "transcendent" or "lofty" or "evolved") glorifies the mind, emotion, and senses.

    "Many men fall prey to their primitive internal wiring"... so on.

    Then they are not "Human" but "Human Animal". If they were truly "Human", they would not HAVE "internal wiring"

    • Thanks for your thoughts, oh most highly evolved, transcendentally elevated being of multi-spectral, illuminated light (sorry.. I just couldn’t resist.. guess it’s the ‘animal’ in me.. lol). I don’t agree with almost any of your response, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have value. Definitely food for thought! 😁

    • You're welcome. "the only think bad about being evolved is the loneliness"

  • No link to an online course for aspiring sigma male bois.

    0/10

  • You're easily describing men over 6 feet tall, not every man is built like the male model you describe.

    • I didn’t actually describe the physicality of men in this My Take at all. And I didn’t describe a model either. Were you intending this comment for someone else?

  • So why in BDSM there are so much more submissive men than dominant men? I like both dominant and submissive men and it is WAAAAAAY easier to find a man who wants to be dominated and I've never seen a woman in BDSM who disagrees with that.

    "the majority of males are sexually dominant and the majority of females are sexually submissive" seems incorrect tbh. The majority of men and women prefer to be with a dominant partner.

    • In bdsm is the key difference I think. In the bdsm world, I can see why you would see a lot of men who are seeking to experience sexual submission as something kinky or different from the ‘norm’. But outside of the world of kink, bdsm etc.. I think the majority of sexual activity falls into the male dominant / female submissive roles. That’s just my take on it, from my perspective. I could be right, and I could be wrong! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and perspective.

  • Don't take it badly my friend, but I'd let you dominate me

    • I am not into guys, but I don’t take your comment badly at all!

    • Women are so lucky lol

  • wow lol