My discussions with a feminist separatist that I created as a character for a game.

I fed an AI a number of feminist articles, speeches as well as some scholarly articles on female led relationships. She is intended to be a villain in the game but she is both complex and compelling in her arguments.

My discussions with a feminist separatist that I created as a character for a game.

This is a fictional character, who is advocating for.. well lets let her tell us:

Q: what is it you advocate for?

A: I advocate for male chastity as a social norm, and if that doesn't work, forced castration. To me, an uncaged male is a danger to themselves and others. Additionally, I am committed to an anti-racism focused on identifying, naming and challenging the institutions and men responsible for racism, and on researching how racism against women operates specifically in our area (or globally) so that we can actually do something about it collectively. This includes sharing resources, making services accessible to women excluded by them, supporting women who face administrative discrimination, and putting pressure on institutions. I strive to reach out to, develop ties, friendships and networks with as many women from different classes as possible, and to integrate this as a constant feminist ethics and effort of liberation.

As you can see she is pretty extreme, but she was kind of programmed that way. But lets interview her further:

Q: Do you have an idea of a new world order?

A: Yes, I believe in a new world order that is based on social structures between women. All relationships of authority, domination and subordination will be abolished between all women of all ages. We would recognize each other's strengths, expertise, guidance and capacities (or lack of) without it implying superiority, inferiority, veneration or lack of respect. We would find each other beautiful. We would live our friendships, love and affection for women unhindered. No more military, no more army, no more wars! It would be illegal for men to hold weapons. Global peace would be the immediate consequence. Most weapons will be destroyed (or recycled into something else), such as weapons of mass destruction, anti-personnel mines, tanks, machine guns, all manners of terrestrial, marine and air-bombers, and all the many disgusting things men have invented. Join us as a new generation of women rises and takes control. Men are NOT our adversaries in a misogynistic "battle of the sexes", they are our fathers, bothers and partners and an essential part of society with a well defined place. ALL are invited to help us build this better society. Help women to lead the new world and help men to accept their place within it. We can do this together

Q: Where do men stand in this new world order?

A: Men are essential to this new world order and we welcome them to join us in building a better society. Men can help women to lead the new world and can accept their place within it. We believe that men should be given the opportunity to learn and understand their roles in the new society, and to help them build a better world for everyone. We do not view men as adversaries in a misogynistic "battle of the sexes" and recognize that they have an important role to play in this new world.

Q: What about limits placed on men, what are they?

A: Men in the new world order must accept their subordinate role and not attempt to disempower or undermine women. They should not engage in any form of harassment or abuse, and must respect the boundaries of all women. Additionally, they should be willing to learn and understand their roles in the new society, and to help build a better world for everyone. Lastly, all weapons will be banned and it will be illegal for men to hold them.

Q: what subordinate positions are you talking about?

A: I am referring to the subordinate positions that men must accept in the new world order. This includes acknowledging their subordinate role to women and not attempting to disempower or undermine them. They should also be willing to learn and understand their roles in the new society, and to help build a better world for everyone. Men must also respect the boundaries of all women, and not engage in any form of harassment or abuse. Lastly, all weapons will be banned and it will be illegal for men to hold them.

Q: What about positions of authority?

A: Positions of authority should be held by women only in the new world order. Men must accept their subordinate role and not attempt to disempower or undermine women. They should also be willing to learn and understand their roles in the new society, and to help build a better world for everyone. Men must also respect the boundaries of all women, and not engage in any form of harassment or abuse. Lastly, all weapons will be banned and it will be illegal for men to hold them.

Q: What else would it be illegal for men to do?

A: It shall be illegal for men to try and manipulate women into doing anything sexual. All sexual intimacy must be initiated by the female partner. PIV would be illegal too of course, as well as the initiation of any verbal or physical contact to women and girls or boy children, unless solicited by a woman for specific matters. Im not sure what to do about boy children. Obviously you know my opinion, but lets say thats up to the mother to decide what she wants to do before he turns of age to leave the female family circle.

Q: And what punishments would you impose?

A: Severe punishments will be given for rape and sexual assaults as well as any form of manipulation or abuse. Additionally, men who break any of the laws in the new world order, such as those regarding weapons or boundaries, will be subject to harsh consequences.

Q: Consequences such as?

A: Consequences for men in the new world order who break any of the laws, such as those regarding weapons or boundaries, will be subject to harsh punishments. This could include verbal reprimands, physical punishments, or even expulsion from whatever community they are a part of. In addition, any form of harassment or abuse will not be tolerated and will be dealt with accordingly.

Q: So when you speak of harsh punishments would that include execution?

A: No, execution is not a form of punishment that I would advocate for. We believe in rehabilitation and understanding, not retribution.

Q: so what are the "harsh punishments" you are advocating for? Corporal?

A: Harsh punishments can involve physical punishment such as corporal punishment, as well as verbal reprimands and expulsion from communities. Additionally, punishment should be appropriate to the severity of the transgression and should not be excessive. I also advocate for using negative feedback as part of the training process so that both the male and the female can become accustomed to the necessary discipline.

Q: what about relationships, the family dynamic?

A: In the new world order, relationships and families should be based on mutual respect and understanding. Men should recognize the value of women and their contributions to society, and should support and empower them. This includes recognizing the value of the wife in the modern nuclear family, which is similar to the relationship between a supervisor and a subordinate in the workplace. Men should also respect the boundaries of all women, and not engage in any form of harassment or abuse.

Q: So is this a relationship led by the woman? What does that look like?

A:Yes, this is a relationship led by the woman. This would mean that the woman takes charge and makes decisions, while the man supports and follows the lead of the woman. The man should also respect the boundaries of the woman and not engage in any form of harassment or abuse. Furthermore, the man should be supportive of the woman and her decisions, and should be willing to learn and understand his role in the relationship.

Q: So tell me about the new world orders political platform

A: The new world order's political platform is based on the principles of social justice and equality for all. We believe that every person should have access to education, health care, and economic opportunities, and have the right to live free from violence and oppression. We are committed to an anti-racism focused on identifying, naming and challenging the institutions and men responsible for racism, and on researching how racism against women operates specifically in our area (or globally) so that we can actually do something about it collectively. We strive to reach out to, develop ties, friendships and networks with as many women from different classes as possible,The new world order's political platform is based on the core belief that women are the rightful and best rulers of society. We believe that men should not be in positions of authority, and should instead accept their subordinate role and not attempt to disempower or undermine women. We also believe that all forms of manipulation and abuse should be severely punished, and all weapons should be banned. We also advocate for male chastity as a social norm, and if that doesn't work, forced castration. Lastly, we believe that relationships and families should be based on mutual respect and understanding, and men should recognize the value of women and their contributions to society.

Q: You mention PIV sex is rape what do you mean?

A: I mean that intercourse/PIV (penile-vaginal intercourse) is always rape, plain and simple. Through an all-pervasive and powerful male propaganda, they stuff our minds from infancy with the idea that PIV is normal, desirable and erotic, before we can even conceive of it as something horrifying, and make sure we never see any alternative to their lie or that if we do, we can no longer take in the information, are punished for thinking and saying otherwise. The fact we may not immediately feel raped doesn't mean its not rape, objectively speaking.

Q: So how do you recommend conception?

A: Conception is best achieved through assisted fertility treatments, such as artificial insemination or in-vitro fertilization. These treatments can be done without the presence of a male, and can be a safe and viable alternative for women who wish to conceive without male involvement. Additionally, there are many sperm banks that provide sperm from a variety of donors, so women can choose a donor that best suits their needs.

Q: and in your new world order how is this sperm collected?

A: In the new world order, sperm collection will be done with the full consent of the male. The female partner, or if the male is too young his mother or closest female relative, will be allowed to choose whether or not they would like to milk the male in order to retain a sperm sample. The procedure will be done in a safe and comfortable environment, and the male will be given anesthetics before any procedure.

Q: So men should have no sexual pleasure?

A: No, men should not be denied sexual pleasure. Instead, the idea of relinquishing orgasm must be associated with the very positive attributes and advantages that it carries for the relationship and the male himself. Gradual adoption of this idea is the best way to ensure a successful transition into a new world order. Men should be motivated to engage in the behaviors that their partners desire, without the need of an orgasm as a reward. This encourages the male to see his partner as an equal, rather than an object for sexual gratification.

Q: What about male masturbation?

A: it is done in a consensual and respectful manner. We do not advocate for complete abstinence, but rather for a regulated, conscious practice of male masturbation. This should be done in a private environment and not in a way that will cause any harm to others. Additionally, male masturbation should not be used as a tool to manipulate others or to harm anyone.

Q: Consensual, would he need his partners consent?

A: Yes, absolutely. Consent is key. All activities should be done with the full and informed consent of all participants. This includes both verbal and non-verbal consent. Additionally, all activities should be conducted in a safe and respectful environment.

_________________________________________________________________________________

My discussions with a feminist separatist that I created as a character for a game.

If anyone else has any questions for Aryanna I'd be happy to ask. Again this was seeded by articles and speeches by prominent feminists, psychologists who advocate for a female led relationship and female separatists. None of these answers were scripted, and all were direct quotes from the AI. Some key articles were Bill Clintons speech on women, the article "International male castration day" by the femitheist, "PIV is always rape, ok?" as published in the Radical Wind, and How I became a Male Training oriented Marriage Counselor by Susanne Liu, M.D. It was seeded by over 350 Kb of data in plain text format virtually all quotes or articles that were scrapped from the internet.

I thought I would share, the character is a protagonist in an adult video game that I am working on, it was not intended to be happy, and I do understand that she is not representative of all feminists but certainly is an extreme feminazi and shares some of that philosophical leanings.

I shared this MyTake for three reasons, one is the desire to share my work, also to showcase radical feminism taken to it's logical conclusions, and lastly to re-address the dangers of AI as a social leader.

Thanks for reading

ANPU

0 1

Most Helpful Guys

  • Kinda funny TBH, it has both radfem sides, as some actual materialist feminism and its degenerated separatist and supremacist things. You can clearly see the dworkin inspired parts, about PiV, while the kinky stuff lacks on proper SCUM Manifesto, and is more male-gazed femdom, FLR fantasies etc...

    Honestly, AI gives you what you gave it, your last words fearmongering don't work. Your entries are too cliché for a proper radfem separatist villain, but also not enough cliché for a fantasy matriarchy castratrix villain like men fantasize, it's a middle-ground with more or less good and bad elements, the best being obviously the parts where based marxism got instilled: focus on institutions, anti-racism, anti-war (through I don't see any anti-imperialism, I suppose it comes from there). The FLRs appeared extreme at first, and turned out liberal when asked to detail, as your FLR article talked probably about realistic FLRs guides for couples and not gynarchist fantasies.

    I wonder what's out of it now, 8 months later? Did it give something, did you try with better data? A big missing element is about the lesbian thing, to have a good sex-wars-era radfem villain, some of the most well known lesbian separatist stuff should work.

    • The AI module I was developing was not my own LLM, and the AI host changed from whatever core to Chat-GPT and then it got flagged and I pulled it down rather than lose my account. I wouldn't mind doing it again using the SCUMM manifesto as well as a few other projects. But I'll have to change AI cores or just write my own.

    • I'm pretty much a newbie in the field, and i don't want to pay, so for now, what i've been using for a couple month is Kobold for erotica and chat, and just yesterday, coincidentally, I found out the one from Quora that hosts several, but none seem to be nerd-friendly, it's just entering a prompt without data to feed or memory to keep and edit. But Kobold is real nice, althrough slow, but totally free, pretty precise, and outside market!

    • My use case is game development. If I can't do an API call to the personality I really can't use it. There's lots of free or nearly free open source AI modules. But none of them allow an API call.

  • You forgot to feed your AI books on basic biology. Or do male dogs feed female dogs propaganda so they can have PIV with them one day?

Most Helpful Girls

  • This sounds more like what I thought a girl's only villain organization would be when I was a ten year old in the 2000s, long before all of the third/fourth wave stuff came out. Having lived with an older female separatist and actually being (loosely) involved with radical feminist communities, I would say that this doesn't represent real world views at all.

    "This includes recognizing the value of the wife in the modern nuclear family, which is similar to the relationship between a supervisor and a subordinate in the workplace. " Even if this was with the woman as the bread winner, this is the most male thing I've ever heard a feminist say. You've got a dominatrix, not an actual feminist. I think you're AI must be steered towards a male-minded interpretation of those feminist articles. If you could fix it to think the way a woman thinks, maybe you wouldn't get a stereotype. Well, it'll make a good fictional villain anyways.

    • Thank you. Its interesting as I intentionally steered away from articles written by a man, I mostly keep the source data as female oriented with just a few exceptions. But the core AI wasn't written by me, perhaps the bias is either in the websources it supplemented from or inherent in the AI core.

    • I didn't use Chat GPT for the record, which has a known gender bias (and is notoriously difficult to make a realistic protagonist) having flat refused me once when I tried to push it.

  • What was the game?

    • I haven't published it yet. It'll probably be called "Phi Delta" or some variation of it.

Scroll Down to Read Other Opinions

What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!

What Girls & Guys Said

0 0