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If abortion becomes illegal, its going to continue to happen. But it'll be unsafe and without doctors. Just like there are illegal drugs and guns still being sold and used, abortions will still occur. Which is damaging to the mother and the fetus if it happens to survive.
Women are going to end up dying because they had an unsafe (which may mean unclean) abortion, or the pregnancy is life threatening.
Sometimes women also get abortions because the baby will be born with autism or another health defect due to pregnancy complications. Sometimes women get abortions because their BD left them and they can't do it alone.
Sometime women get abortions because they were raped. Sometimes women get abortions because they can't afford the baby or simply don't want it. Or they're too mentally or physically unfit to care for the baby. I am pro choice, but you can't say women can't abort a baby if birth control will be harder to access and everyone decides to start adopting and never have a baby of their own.
We're already overpopulating the earth. Besides, I respect if you would never get an abortion. That is YOUR choice. That's the reason I am pro choice. You can decide to keep the fetus or rid of it. The fetus is usually aborted within the first 3 months.
The only time a late term termination happens is if the mother will die. You can't say she can't get rid of it, have her die but the baby live. You aren't being pro life you're being pro birth, but that doesn't mean you'd take care of their kid.
When a fetus is to be aborted it will not and cannot feel any pain. It is injected with a needle and safely removed. It is not torn apart limb from limb because it will not be developed enough to even have limbs.
If you're going to support or protest anything make sure you do your own damn research, don't rely on photos or articles on Facebook. Besides, having a baby is a choice for a woman, not a necessity. Don't take my word for it tho, I'm just a woman who never wanted kids. Do your research and then come back to me.
*side note: you CAN be pro life personally but pro choice politically. Meaning you'd never get an abortion yourself but you understand other women should have the choice.
Also, this is not meant to spark a debate. You can state if you agree or disagree but do not start fights or you'll be immediately blocked. I respect your opinion, just respect mine and everyone else's.
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27 36These people aren't "pro-life". Nobody who claims to support life can be okay with just watching 2 year-old Syrians either drown in a Greek beach or have a Russian bomb dropped on their heads, and not allow them to enter another country because of religion.
i am pro life and i don't agree with those things. sorry to burst your bubble.
@MissMillionDollarMan Good for you, but the people representing your "pro-life" agenda do.
Not sure where you got your fact from (probably Planned Parenthood) but I completely disagree with everything! Abortion is wrong and is used 95% as birth control for couples that are too lazy to use some type of protection.
Euhm... who is making abortion illegal? As far as I'm concerned the US simply won't fund any abortions in other countries.
Yes to all.
I like your stance, you have my support 👍🏻
If you can't handle the consequences of what premarital sex brings, don't do it. Women want the right to murder. I understand that. Making it illegal will not solve the issue, I totally agree with that as well. We will just have women giving birth and then dumping the baby after it's born into dumpsters and all of the other crazy things women come up with to get rid of their child.
The only way to decrease the abortion 'issue' is to teach morality again. Society has been demoralized; I would argue by design. How easy it is to have sex with a woman now days and it's quite terrifying. I imagine many of the women I have had one night stands with keep them to themselves; nevertheless, they give it up often and easy. And you know single motherhood is glorified and applauded today as though it's some great feat.
Guys will always be willing to have sex. It's the woman's job and duty to deny it. Over and over again. But like I have said many times on this site, women want to be more like men and want to sleep around. And it's great for them, usually, all the way through their 20's. But once they hit the 'wall' that realization kicks in and no respectful guy wants them.
Women in China are fighting to have more kids while women in American fight to kill their our child. It is a living breathing child in there. Did you know planned parenthood sells the body parts of the aborted babies so another child can have life. They crush the head to save other organs. They tell you it's just tissue but it's not that baby has a heart beat
Say what you want but abortion is wrong it's murder.
People claim oh rape, oh the mother is going to die, but most of the statics prove that is not the case.
Don't have sex if you aren't prepared to take care of a baby. That is why sex was created in marriage. You guys wanted to liberate yourselves so much and now you don't want to take care of responsibility.
What if your parents aborted you?
No debate here,
Its a woman's choice if she wants to have kids and family. That much is true.
But that also means she has to accept the consequences of her choices.
If her partner leaves her if he wants someone who wants a family, that's his choice.
If society deems her as an infidel, that's their choice.
When these people talk about choices, they forget that other people have choices too.
And when they say it isn't anybody's business what her choices are.
But then again, its ain't her business what everyone else thinks about her.
I believe abortion should be legal till late second trimester (and later in the case of maternal health risks).
But that's because I don't think it's till that point eligible for the rights of a human being. After that it is.
That's all that matters. It doesn't matter how inconvenient it is later, or how much its parents or parents feel like having it. Either it's not yet a person, or it is.
In spite of having a fairly pro-choice view, I find most pro-choice people almost make me want to shoot myself with how absurd their arguments are (and you were far better than most).
Any time a pro-choice person wants to make an argument that isn't about whether or not it's a human life at that point, they should ask themselves if the argument they are about to make would apply to terminating a 6 month old baby. If not, it's not relevant.
If its being terminated at 6 months (in my opinion) that's only for severe health or life/death situations for mother or baby.
I honestly dislike the idea of abortion very much. Except for a few special cases (rape, mother in danger, child has severe disabilities), but those are quite rare.
But, maybe abortion shouldn't be illegal after all. I don't know about taxes and stuff, but I think if you're a taxpayer, you are basically funding abortion in most western countries. I wouldn't want my money to go there. Maybe they should have an optiom to choose
A lot of people feel the innocent baby - fetus - product of conception - whatever name you use, deserves protection. It is actually a separate body with his/her own gender and genetic make-up.
The question is really whether you think that little, unborn body has separate rights from the mother.
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Ps. I don't care about the abortion issue.
Your rehtoric doesn't interest me. Call me when you have something legitimate to contribute to the discussion
I pretty much agree with you.
in general in life, you can t simply impose your own ideals on others or believe that the right thing for you should be the norm for everyone.
Also it is easy to judge when you are outside of the picture and not really dealing with all the consequences and so on...
hence pro choice is the way to go as long as it is beneath 3 months for many various and understandable reasons.
Can we please tell the right wingers, that not everyone who gets an abortion is Paris Hilton, Nicole Ritchie and the Kardashians get their 7th abortion that year because they wanna dodge responsibility because parties, men and free trips around the world from leathery millionaires is more fun? I felt like you covered all you bases with this and people need to open their eyes to this.
The right think if something is illegal people will stop doing, like drugs and that worked so well am i right?
Excellent points, I completely agree, outstanding Take.
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In the end the entire abortion debate comes down to tow ethical questions:
1. When is the fetus considered a human living being? (does it require consciousness? is it right after conception? is it when the fetus reacts to outdoor impacts? is it when the fetus could survive outside the womb? So on and so forth)
2. Even after the fetus is considered a human living being - is it ethically correct to still murder it, if it's chances on a decent life are quite low (being born in a low socio-economic environment, etc)
To me the answer to those questions are clear - but in ethical questions there are no absolutes and people can have different conclusions.
The problem with the abortion debate is that many people do not ask themselves the above questions to begin with and just follow either sides agenda at a whim and often out of selfish reasons.
I wholly disagree with nearly every point you made. So much to address, so little space.
The only reason I see as justifiable for abortion is a stuafion in which giving birth will kill the mother. In which case it may be the only option in a horrible situation. I can't see it as morally justifiable or legally justifiable to mandate someone give their life for another.
I notice those who are pro abortion often like to play games with terms such as fetus and exactly when that fetus is concisered just a fetus or is a human baby. The bottom line is the minuet the sperm touches the egg, the process of human life has begun. Devolopment continues from conception until we are an adult. It is therefore morally unacceptable to destroy human life regardless of where along the path of devolopment human life is.
Answer this question please. When is it ok to murder your unborn child?
I notice the female holding the sign "you're not pro life, you're pro forced reproduction". Let me address that. Excluding rape (which would include incest in my views) the majority of pregnancies are not from rape. We all know where babies come from and that the storke doesn't drop them off. Anyone can walk into a Planned Parenthood and get birth control for free. FREE! Additionally condoms are in expensive, and in addition to condoms, there are roughly 15 or more other methods of birth control (cervical caps, vasectomy, the pill, the shot, etc). With all of these options afforded us in modern society, there's just no excuse for getting pregnant when not desired. Even one can't afford or access birth control, oral sex, hand jobs, titty fu*king and foot jobs for the foot fetish crowd, don't result in pregnancy either. Basically there is no excuse (baring rape) to get pregnant if you don't intend to be. Abortion ought not be a method of birth control. We all make decisions if 2 people allow unprotected sex to occur resulting in the creation of life, they're responsible. They can still have a "get out of jail" free card by placing the child for adoption. An abortion is not necessary.
As far as abortions continuing, just being unsafe and killing women. That is unfortunate, but there are consecquences for life decisions, that being one of the possible outcomes.
"My body, my choice" Since when are women elevated to the status of God Himself and allowed to decide who lives or dies? Your body, your choice? Right. Choose birth control or choose life. Those are the only real choices.
You are now one of my favourite gagers.
@HastaLaPasta Thank you kindly miss.
I have no respect for anyone who supports abortion!
I have no respect for someone who would force a woman to carry a child she doesn't want and could potentially kill her. Not only that it will mark her body forever, it will never be the same. Rape, incest, there are plenty of reasons for abortion.
Cool, then unfollow me and just never talk to me again if you "have no respect" for those who support it.
Who cares? People would rather live than earn your respect and die lol.
Well, I believe that every baby should see life. Abortion is murder!
Any woman who would abort their baby because it may have a certain disability is just stupid! Yes, I'm calling any woman stupid for aborting their baby because of that! I am insulted by that! I have autism myself and did my mom abort me? Hell, no! Shut the hell up about that!!! Autistic people can't help it sometimes! But with God on their side, they can do anything. John 15:5 says "I am the Vine, you are the branches, if a man remains in Me and I in him, he shall bear much fruit. Apart from me, you can do nothing!" If any of you womb had half a damn brain in your heads, you would know that abortion is illegal in the eyes of The Lord! I'm a Christian and I support life!
1. Not everyone is christian. This isn't a religious thing this is a RIGHTS thing. Christianity also says you can't eat shrimp, masturbate, cut your hair, wear clothes of mixed fibers. My mother almosted aborted my baby sister around 4-5 months in because she (the baby) had a swelling that would cause brain damage and possibly death if the baby was born with the swelling. The only reason she didn't abort the baby was because she checked with the doctors and the swelling finally started to go down. But okay.
I know why! God didn't want another lost life! He was with your baby sister while she was in your mother. Your mother probably prayed and He heard her and your baby sister was saved.
Seriously no one wants you shoving god down their throats. If you believe that's fine, it's your choice... you know... kind of how we admit it's OUR choice to abort a fetus that is little more than a parasite at 2-4 months. Which is when most abortions occur.
@Genocide I'm not shoving God down anyone's throat! I'm just say I probably know what happened.
It's fine you believe that, but if they do not believe and you mention God is the reason some miracle happened in their life it is sort of pushing the Christian agenda. I personally believe in God and Jesus, but I do not trust texts written by man. The Bible has been rewritten and omitted so many times it's not even the same text anymore.
@Genocide i have no respect for women who kill their child and women who defend such women
THANK YOU! If you don't like the idea of abortions, then don't have one yourself. Why do the choices of strangers annoy you so much? You don't know the circumstances in which they needed it and it is not your place to harass the parents for their choices...