There are multiple reasons why a guy might not want to have anything to do with promiscuous women. It usually based on jealousy, hatred, misogyny or biases.
Promiscuous women don't want to have sex with them
If promiscuous women wanted to have sex with them, then they shouldn't be complaining. Right? Part of the reason has to be because those 'sluts' are not lining up to suck their dicks which frustrates them a lot. Sexually undesirable men know that their only way to most easily get available sex is through a relationship. They assume that if promiscuity is promoted in women, then women will forego relationships with men and choose to sleep with men that are sexually desirable.
They are jealous that promiscuous women can easily get laid
This jealousy just adds more to the hatred. It's true that it's easier for the average woman to get laid versus the average man. It makes them jealous that it's not that easy for them to get laid, and that jealousy makes them not want to have anything to do with promiscuous women.
Their homophobia makes them disgusted by women who slept with multiple men
They may subconsciously have this weird idea that if multiple dicks went into the same vagina, then it's 'gay' to have sex with her. These type of men also have developed this weird idea that women who sleep around are not 'real women,' and that they are no different from gay men.
They assume she is misandrist
You know how if a man objectifies women as 'pieces of meat,' then women would call him a misogynist. Well it's pretty much the same thing here because men may assume that promiscuous women objectify men as 'pieces of meat.' To add more to the picture, most men view promiscuous women (and anyone who supports promiscuity in women) as 'feminists.' They generally associate feminists with misandrists, so it's not surprising if they subconsciously view a promiscuous woman as a misandrist.
They fear being objectified in the same way they objectify women
Sex is physical and physical characteristics influence who we want and don't want to have a one night stand with. A lot of men like to pretend that objectification is not a bad thing. No one likes to be objectified, especially men. I noticed that most men much prefer to be perceived and treated as people instead of objects. Cause god forbid if women are the same way, right? If more women started to vocally objectify men in the same way men objectify women, then men will start to become more insecure about their looks which are things they barely have control over.
They think she might have an std
This is the most rational reason so far. The more promiscuous you are, the odds of you having an std is higher.
They think she is more likely to cheat
Paternal uncertainty is a real thing. Men are never 100% sure of who their kids are, and this instinct has always existed since the dawn of time. If his woman is likely to cheat on him, then that would make him more uncertain about his blood relation to his children.
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14 73You got it all wrong.
The guys thoughts are as simple: they don't want to know what their car has been used for.
It's shit simple. You don't want to see a guy droning about his ex and a guy doesn't want to see his new girl is still horny for some other dudes.
Ever watch a movie where the girl find out about the guy ex? She would be everything she is not and the guy still stay friendly with the ex! It's the recipe for drama!
Same thing with the guy. Nobody wants to know how many guys his girl has been through.
Even worse, nobody wants to be the guy she didn't want to have wild sex with and only get him to be the ATM.
used goods are damaged goods?
@levantine99 That's how a guy think. It's built in to the genetic code. Just view how female store sperm as a function of sexual selection (choose mate). This causes an moderate amount of natural selection on sperm competition. The human female can store different sperm from different males at the same time. However, only the single best sperm can survive. This forces the males to evolve from having the largest penis amount primates with the same weight to sperm spearing each other with their tails. The effect spills over to making sure their female mate aren't getting close to other males. What else is better than making sure she is in pristine condition?
This is a brilliant answer!!
I dislike promiscuity in general, be it male or female. Its frivolous, careless and irresponsible. It contradicts my values. I identify myself as a one woman guy, most guys do (most girls also identify themselves as the same with guys). I've never been with someone outside a relationship. because I believe in commitment before sex. If you identify yourself as promiscuous there are plenty of guys who'll get in your pants but any self respecting guy or girl will see the person for what they are worth not just because they want a ten minute cheap thrill. I dislike promiscuous people just as I dislike that irate drunk who can't stop drinking or those obese fatties who can't stop stuffing their faces but still expect you to think them to be attractive. Sorry no can do. You wanna get laid, that's your life. None of my business. What I think about promiscuity and my opinion on it. None of your business.
GUys have to be cunning, funny, charming, say all the right things. Women just have to be there.
yeah, there is a huge double standard all over
These are all very unrealistic feminist misconceptions and misandry.
The truth is that feminist *cough* promiscuous women are more likely to have STDs and have failed marriages the more sexual partners they have had... They will most likely also be terrible wives and mothers.
There is a societal belief that men are inherently dirty and women inherently pure. The reason why some women will not sleep with a virgin guy is because they find him creepy or impure. So a guy sleeping with a woman is purifying to him.
Conversely it is also polluting to her. This is deeply rooted in Judao/Christian beliefs. In fact early Christian teachings were that people should remain celibate, and if unable to be celibate then to marry one person and stay with that one person. That's the basis of western puritism.
It should be mentioned that religion support celibate for both ganders, so a girl having a problem with virgin guy have nothing to do with religion, as he considered to be an good guy, if he waits for marriage. One of reason the reasons that virginity is more valued for women, is because women don't expected to be active.
Well... sort of. I will say that when guys really fall for a girl, it's tough to find out that she's banged out half the zip code. Say what you want, but it just is. Guys are territorial. That, and we have good imaginations. And some guys are jealous of the easy sex had by girls who don't exactly look like models. They're jealous of the guys getting it, too.
YOu got it all wrong.
It always is the same with women who want to downplay the actual reasoning behind the dislikement for promiscuity: It's always insecurity within men that makes them not want such an empowered woman.
Bullshit !
Men do NOT want promiscuity for very fundamental biological reasons.
Promiscuous people have been linked again and again to...
... mental instability and higher rates of mental illness
... higher rates of STDs (It's a numbers game)
... be more likely to be a single parent (numbers game)
... have higher rates of abortion (numbers game)
... have less stable relationships and higher divorce rates
... have increased chances of having been in an abusive relationship
... be more likely to cheat
... be more likely to become addicted
... be more likely to come out of a broken household.
Want some sources?
cdn.freedomainradio.com/...iage_Partners_Study.pdf
-> Page 19-25. Especially Page 24-25 is quite relevant.
www.everydayhealth.com/.../...eaten-longevity.aspx
medicalxpress.com/.../...partners-linked-drug.html
news-releases.uiowa.edu/.../061411paik_study.html
www.barbararisman.com/.../...earch_final_paper.pdf
www.ideals.illinois.edu/.../Saroj_Hardit.pdf
-> Promiscuity is linked to sexual aggression.
-> Page 59. "The number of sexual partners was positively related to parental violence."
-> Page 70. "As the number of sexual partners increased, so did the propensity to sexually aggression."
http://www.bradley.edu/dotAsset/165862.pdf
-> Page 4. "Perhaps the strongest personality correlate of risky sexual behaviour is impulsive sensation-seeking"
-> Page 8. Promiscuous people are more likely to be impulsive, have low agreeableness, low conscientiousness, sensation-seeking and a higher level of sexual infidelity.
-> Page 14. "People who describe themselves as more unfaithful tend to have personality traits linked to a lack of trust and empathy (i. e. low agreeableness)"
www.sociopathicstyle.com/psychopathic-traits/
-> Point 11. Promiscuity is a common symptom of psychopathy. Goes hand in hand with the other study mentioning impulsiveness as it shows it here on point 14
ink.library.smu.edu.sg/.../viewcontent.cgi
-> Page 8. Higher amount of sexual partners is directly linked to higher degrees of psychopathy, narcissism, machiavellianism and an increase of any combination of those 3.
genepi.qimr.edu.au/.../CV262Bailey_UQ_Copy.pdf
-> Page 4, Table 1. (Note: Sociosexuality = Parameter for willingness to engage in sexual activity outside of comitted relationships)
To put it into my own words: I think promiscuity is a symptom of mental instability and is a way of self-destructive behaviour, just like i. e. obesity (not physical-health induced obesity). It's a huge red flag objectively, biologically and evolutionary for anyone who wants a comitted and successful relationship.
Thus there is no logical argument to me that promiscuity is in any way to be seen as something positive
Outstanding but you’re trying to fight emotions with logic. She feels not she thinks...
@NerdInDenial haha hahahahaha soooo much win. Bruh, stop using logic, it won't work.
Oh thank god! I thought I was going to have to do another exhaustive list of all the reasons why men don't want promiscuous women. Glad to see some one else do it for me!
You're taking the words out of my mouth lol
You are right about the higher rates of stds part but I doubt most guys associate, from the top of their heads, promiscuity with the other things you mentioned and I even doubt most people are aware of any of these studies about this. Oh most of it isn't biological, it's all psychological and based on the social sciences which is a very soft, fuzzy scientific field. Many of the sources are more than 10 years old and studies like this can be debunked by other studies via the scientific method. These may be considered some of biases that some men hold about promiscuous women, and you are obviously one of them. However, that doesn't mean you can completely rule out my theories about how insecure a lot of guys are. My theories are based upon very basic knowledge and I was putting the puzzles together to form an INTERPRETATION. The reason why studies aren't done on my assumptions is because most people, especially men, will never admit how insecure they are.
Citations needed
... mental instability and higher rates of mental illness Correlation doesn't always mean causation and it doesn't mean the stereotype is always true because this isn't true about every promiscuous person. Get to know the person first before jumping to assumptions. It's quite possible that researchers have biased views about promiscuity and have screwed the results with their biased methods. ... higher rates of STDs (It's a numbers game) This is true but protection can be used and tests can always be done to prevent that. ... be more likely to be a single parent (numbers game) Whether the single parent is promiscuous or not, not that many people want to date a single parent anyways. ... have higher rates of abortion (numbers game) Again correlation doesn't make the stereotype true. This is just another bias that is not true about every promiscuous woman. Not every guy is against abortion. Even women who aren't promiscuous can get an abortion without you knowing about it.
Based on your perspective because a broken clock is right twice a day means it is not broken.
... have less stable relationships and higher divorce rates Again, correlation doesn't mean causation. This might be due to insecurities about promiscuity that cause less stable relationships and higher divorce rates because two unrelated variables may be linked to a confounding variable, which causes the two unrelated variable to be correlated together. ... have increased chances of having been in an abusive relationship Even non-promicuous people could have a chance of having been in an abusive relationship. Lol many guys would say they don't have a problem with dating a woman who's been in an abusive relationship.
... be more likely to cheat Again, this is unrelated. ... be more likely to become addicted Another assumption that may not be true cause correlation doesn't mean causation. ... be more likely to come out of a broken household. Another assumption that might be wrong about the person. If someone doesn't want to date a person from a broken household, then it has nothing with the sexual past. My interpretation: you have took the time to look up these studies in order to cover up your own insecurities (listed in my MYTAKE). You are really not as bright as you think you are, and all the people who have upvoted you are as biased as you are because they are not bright enough to question all the loopholes.
The Mytake Owner:
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"You are right about the higher rates of stds part but I doubt most guys associate, from the top of their heads" Are you implying men are by nature irresponsible and thus don't care about STDs? Or why would you say that it is not something guys associate with first when thinking of promiscuous women? "Oh most of it isn't biological, it's all psychological and based on the social sciences which is a very soft, fuzzy scientific field." So those are soft, fuzzy scientific fields, yet your personal, individual, and most likely biased conclusions, without any statistical evidence, are worth more than that? Narcissistic very much?
"Many of the sources are more than 10 years old and studies like this can be debunked by other studies via the scientific method." 3 out of the 10 links I provided are older than 10 years old. These are from 2000, 2003 and 2004. You are just trying to downplay their significiance here by claiming how old they are and thus implying they lost relevance as well as manipulating the reader into thinking my provided links are incredibly outdated by using the broad phrase of "older than 10 years". Especially with the phrasing of "many of the sources" you clearly show your manipulative intent. 3 out of 10 aren't many nor the majority by any semantic definition. Not to mention you completely ignore the findings and just attack the validity of my sources. Intellectually dishonest.
"These may be considered some of biases that some men hold about promiscuous women, and you are obviously one of them." Once again you are being manipulative and implying the research is flawed due to the gender of the researcher. Additionally you are adding me to that accusation and thus trying to attack my character and as a result devaluing my argument. The big irony of this is that it's an apparent display of your very own sexism. But let's prove your argument wrong by taking all the specific studies and analyse them for the sex of the researchers from my linked studies: First Study: 2 male and 2 female researchers Second Study: 2 female researchers Third Study: Unknown gender as the indian name can be used for both sexes. Fourth Study: 1 male researcher Fifth Study: 4 male researchers Sixth Study: 3 male and 1 female researcher Score: 10 male researchers, 5 female researchers, 1 unknown. To me that looks pretty diverse.
"However, that doesn't mean you can completely rule out my theories about how insecure a lot of guys are." Which I never did. In reality I attacked your overall argument that focused on male "jealousy, hatred, misogyny or biases" being the case. Something you very clearly stated at the start of your take: "There are multiple reasons why a guy might not want to have anything to do with promiscuous women. It usually based on jealousy, hatred, misogyny or biases." "The reason why studies aren't done on my assumptions is because most people, especially men, will never admit how insecure they are." I will ignore the sexism towards men in this and focus on the point you are trying to make. The problem with that argument is that the relevant social science fields such as psychology and sociology are majority female ones for at least the last 3 decades. You are essentially attacking women for not making that research.
"Correlation doesn't always mean causation and it doesn't mean the stereotype is always true because this isn't true about every promiscuous person. Get to know the person first before jumping to assumptions." Talking about causation here is completely off the point and simply wrong. 1. I never said promiscuity is the cause. I very clearly - and I quote - said: "Promiscuous people have been LINKED again and again to..." Thus you are misrepresenting my argument. 2. It is utterly irrelevant what the cause and what the symptom in this equation is when there is statistical proof that promiscuity is linked to all those negative aspects. The relevance for what the actual causation is lies in the matters of research and treatment. The statistical truth is that promiscuity is linked to those negative attributes I have mentioned - independent of what specifically are the causes and what are the symptoms.
That means a promiscuous person is MORE likely than a non-promiscuous person to display such negative behaviours and attributes. And that is of relevance for your average person looking to date. 3. It is also irrelevant to say "get to know the person first before jumping to assumptions". People do assumptions based of identifying which other people are a potential threat - either through physical violence or through mental liability - for the sake of their own well-being. You are in no position to tell people what to do and how to take care of themselves. If people decide - despite the potential risks - to date a promiscuous person and all the involved risks then it is solely up to them as an individual. But they should have the tools to make an informed and educated decision to judge the potential risks they are taking.
"It's quite possible that researchers have biased views about promiscuity and have screwed the results with their biased methods." Once again you are assuming the research is simply wrong for some underlying sexism of the researchers - which as I showed you already can't be the case, because the linked research involves plenty of females and the relevant fields of sociology and psychology are majorly female. So you should take off your tinfoil-hat. "This is true but protection can be used and tests can always be done to prevent that." No test and no protection is 100% safe. They have failure rates. Once again it is up to the individual to decide, if they are willing to take that risks or not and you are in no position to make that decision for them nor to try to guilt them into making a decision that creates an increased risk for their own well-being.
"Again correlation doesn't make the stereotype true. This is just another bias that is not true about every promiscuous woman. Not every guy is against abortion. Even women who aren't promiscuous can get an abortion without you knowing about it." You really don't understand how statistics work, do you? It's not about absolutes, but about likelihood. If I do Action A and have a 10% risk of dying and Action B with a 80% risk of dying - which action is the smarter choice to take? Obviously I could go for Action B and take my 20% survival chance. Or I could make an intelligent and informed decision and reduce the risk of harm right away.
"Again, correlation doesn't mean causation. This might be due to insecurities about promiscuity that cause less stable relationships and higher divorce rates because two unrelated variables may be linked to a confounding variable, which causes the two unrelated variable to be correlated together." And again the causation is utterly irrelevant. It is a personality trait that - directly or indirectly decreases relationship and marriage stability and thus an increased risk to commit to that person for one reason or another. Secondly you are just taking guesses without any foundation to it. Yes, it could be. Or it could be, because promiscuous people are more likely to be mentally instable. Or it could be a whole ton of other things. But once again that is irrelevant for the statistically increased risk a person takes when engaging with a promiscuous partner.
"Even non-promicuous people could have a chance of having been in an abusive relationship. Lol many guys would say they don't have a problem with dating a woman who's been in an abusive relationship." And you show once again that you don't understand how statistics works. I already explained it and will not repeat myself. It's about likelihood and possibilities. I can also roll a dice and hope I will get the 6, but I am more likely to roll the other 5 numbers. Same with promiscuous people. I am more likely to not end up with a partner who wasn't abused when I am dating a non-promiscuous person. "... be more likely to cheat Again, this is unrelated." How is cheating unrelated? Loyalty is one, if not THE, biggest priorities in men for a partner. If something is related, then that.
"... be more likely to become addicted Another assumption that may not be true cause correlation doesn't mean causation." Statistical likelihood. Take a class on statistics because by now you have proven you don't understand that concept altogether. "... be more likely to come out of a broken household. Another assumption that might be wrong about the person. If someone doesn't want to date a person from a broken household, then it has nothing with the sexual past." Statistical likelihood. Take that statistics class already. "My interpretation: you have took the time to look up these studies in order to cover up your own insecurities (listed in my MYTAKE)." Once again attacking my character while having provided a very flawed argumentation yourself. Also implying an underlying case of narcissim by assuming I did that research only for your MyTake. I researched this long ago and just saved it up though. Copy&Paste is a wonderful thing.
"You are really not as bright as you think you are, and all the people who have upvoted you are as biased as you are because they are not bright enough to question all the loopholes." You really shouldn't throw with stones while sitting in a house of glass. Attacking someone on intelligence while not understanding the basic fundamentals of statistics really isn't helping your case. Unlike you I pointed out likelihoods rather than absolutes. I let people make their own opinion and leave them their own choice to make a decision of if they are willing to date a promiscuous person or not. Unlike you I didn't make a moral judgement, I didn't attack anyone, I didn't try to guilt anyone into a decision. I just gave them the tools to make an informed and educated decision. So clearly I am having the moral highground here while all you have done was attacking me and the researchers rather than the argument itself.
You essentially lost this intellectual debate in a way that makes every halfway smart person reading this have pity for you. Next time bring a gun to an intellectual gunfight rather than trying to throw pebbles at me. Farewell.
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Bravo! I salute you sir
Ok sure tell yourself all this.
Feminist propaganda is the only reason you are writing this... it's really, really obvious why people dislike promiscuous women in particular, and really, people dislike promiscuous men as well, assuming they don't have a haram of beta cucks to brag to
Your theory does apply to some men, but not all. Personally for me, I feel this way because of your last two points. I think both are reasonable rationales for disliking promiscuous women, as they are more often true than not. The biggest reason for me though is the lack of integrity. It feels morally wrong to me to sleep around without having a deep emotional connection with said person.
Women are not biologically functional equivalents of men. As such women should not model their behavior on what men do.
The fact of the matter is that men cannot respect a woman who is promiscuous. If you cannot respect a woman, you cannot love that woman. And if this is the case, why would you want to do anything but fuck her and toss her aside?
It's important to understand that while women are the gatekeepers to sex, men are the gatekeepers to relationships.
You forgot an important point (maybe the most important): virgins can not compare. Promiscuous women can compare.
You might be on to something, but I think you might be overthinking things here. My understanding is that it boils down to the male pecking order. A promiscuous woman makes herself available to many men, so having sex with her isn't really an achievement since other dudes have been there too.
Amazing take. Much <3 from a feminist.
I dislike them for the same reasons I dislike psychopaths.
1. I've been approached by multiple promiscuous (sluts) on this site and I don't want them. They are scummy immoral people.
2. Jealous of people that do hook ups/ONS? No, they are immoral scummy people.
3. Haven't heard that one before.
4. Probably true
5. BS Men are objectified just as much as women are and have been for a very long time, especially in the media.
6. True, promiscuous people have much higher risk of STDs.
7. Promiscuous people are more likely to cheat because they don't think of sex as part of an emotional bond and it isn't special to them.
You are wrong about not being sure of who's kids they are. What, you never heard of DNA tests?
In conclusion, you need to rethink your statements because there are many inaccuracies.
Ha ha. Two promiscuous women are upset about the truth.
I never ask a girl about her number of partners. What concerns me more is how she acts and as long as she doesn’t have an std, kid or cheat.
That being said, you gotta draw the line somewhere. Some behaviors are inexcusable, regardless of gender.
For instance a girl I was seeing invited me to her place with an empty condom wrapper in her bed from another guy and turned that around on me.
Another girl spent the whole first date just ranting about her sexual past and at one point felt the need to tell me how she fucked 2 Aaron’s before when a bartender named Aaron walked by. It’s like oh thanks for telling me, I was just like oh thanks for telling me, I was just about to ask how many Aarons you’ve fucked.
Actually, I'd say it's pretty much spot on. Except about the homophobia part; that seems a bit of a stretch...
I love promiscuous women. They are easier to fuck, and often become escorts or prostitutes. Prostitutes provide good times, many great memories from them.