Myth: Women Cum
Truth: Cum is a noun and it comes from the word scum, and relates specifically to male semen. Women do not produce semen. We do not cum. We come. Originally, in erotic literature, the male and female orgasm were both referred to as "coming" or short for "the orgasm came". People heard the word come and assumed it was the same at the word cum, so now virtually everyone uses the term cum wrong (as a verb, it's not a verb).
This misuse over about the past 25 years has led many people to think that most/all women also produce some sort of ejaculate, and women are even told they should be ejaculating and just need to be taught. This leads us to another myth...
Myth: All women squirt
Truth: Squirting is one of two things. One is rare and will happen on its own. The other is less rare, and when it happens on its own, it's considered a medical problem. Read more -
In humans, in the first stage of fetal development, the beginnings of what will become the male prostate form in both male and female fetuses. In the second stage of development, the mother's body feeds the fetus a sex-specific cocktail of hormones, and that causes the prostate to develop in male fetuses, but not much in female fetuses.
Very rarely this gland, called the Skene's gland in females, develops enough that it can produce fluid like what the male prostate does. This is incredibly rare. In fact, it is so rare that it took decades of study for doctor's to discover functional Skene's glands in women, as they are so often just vestigial.
These women will naturally produce the fluid in small quantity at time of orgasm, through the urethra, and it will happen whenever they orgasm with no special stimulation required.
This phenomena is so rare most of us will never see it. (Coates, 1991) That is true female ejaculation.
Then there is another phenomena. It is called coital incontinence. It is not female ejaculation. Coital incontinence can happen for many reasons, and it is often treated medically.
What is popular right now is manipulating the urethral sponge to irritate the urethra and then the woman forces urine out to produce a noticeable "squirt". That is essentially what is happening when it is seen in pornography. It is often associated with the G-Spot, but there is also not anatomical evidencefor the existence of the G-Spot to begin with, so the two myths have become intertwined, each adding credibility to the other.
What is often misunderstood about this kind of squirting is that is is not in any way related to orgasm, and trying to obtain it requires motions that may actually interrupt a woman's sexual arousal cycle so that she won't actually orgasm, just pee really hard. Many women are told this is some awesome ultimate orgasm experience, but it turns out to be just meh for them.
There is not some hierarchy of better female orgasms. Our orgasms are all clitoral, no matter how we reach the orgasm (even mentally). onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ca.22177/full
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Interesting. I'm uncertain whether this is the whole story or not.
In the 90s, a guy I knew told me when he ate his girlfriend's pussy, thick stuff would shoot in his mouth. I was amazed at that, hadn't heard of it... and then in '03 the first time I was with a certain person, t he same thing happened when I was munching her box. And she orgasmed when it happened.
She also started squirting a few months later (a couple weeks after I showed her a squirting vid - she said it was coincidence), and it was every time she came - with my cock in her ass. She'd cum and in the course of it empty her bladder all over me.
More recently, the same with another partner would happen, vaginally or anally, though especially anally.
By the way, folks: any of you think I'm making stuff up here, I have video [] evidence [] of some of these things.
Oh, also, the squirting happened only through intercourse. Never fingers or toys. That porn trick is a gimmick.
Interesting. Many pseudo-scientific words to say something that is against my experience. I know what I did to her and how she reacted.
Fullstop. I know how her abilty to squirt came by my action on her.
I'm sure it did. As I said "What is popular right now is manipulating the urethral sponge to irritate the urethra and then the woman forces urine out to produce a noticeable "squirt"."
But her squirt was sweet, not sour like urine.
You have not consumed enough urine to compile a data catalogue of how to tell urine by taste. That's the point. You do NOT know what substance came out of your woman because you didn't catch it and have it analyzed at a lab. The people who do actually catch the liquids, and have analyzed them are reporting the same two phenomena that I am reporting to you. They have been reporting these same two phenomena now for many years. However, theories that were not based in anatomy, chemistry or biology still abound in our popular narrative because people prefer to think of them that way. I haven't used any psuedo-science to reach any conclusion I have given here. I read, have read, and will continue to read the cutting edge science of the female orgasm, observe the scientific methods and technologies used, and report them back to people who desire such things. You desire the illusion that it was not urine, and your evidence is that you know all the ways urine can taste. (Clue: you don't.)
Squirting = Urine
I don't think women can urinate while turned on, so if you see a liquid coming from the urethra, it's most likely not urine
@Blossom5
They can. What else comes out the urethra?
They say it's a liquid that comes from the Skene's gland (not from the bladder) through the urethra, and that it's really rare, but it's not urine for sure because a girl can't even urinate while aroused or right after she orgasms
@Blossom5 They can urinate while aroused. Studies have been done on squirting. "When aroused, some women may experience squirting, or a rather noticeable discharge of fluid. What it is exactly and where it comes from has been hotly debated: female ejaculation or adult bedwetting? Researchers are now saying that squirting is essentially involuntary urination.
All of the women had empty bladders before sexual excitation, however, urine collected just before squirting showed that the bladder was filling up. Urine sampled after squirting revealed that the bladder had been emptied again, revealing the origin of the squirted liquid. Squirting, they found, is essentially the involuntary emission of urine during sexual activity—though there’s also a small contribution of prostatic secretions as well.
Well, I guess if that is the case, and it's urine, squirting wouldn't be such a rare thing. However, I am a girl and I know for a fact that I can't empty my bladder while aroused even if my life depended on it lol, and I heard it's the same for guys as they can't urinate while aroused
@Blossom5 www.iflscience.com/.../
@Blossom5 You're right that most women can't. So what often happens is a woman is not really all that turned on anymore when she is being "stimulated to squirt" and she has to kind of force the urine out, overriding her body's natural tendency to prevent the urination.
@Blossom5 Actually, they can. It's men who cannot due to them only having one tube. Women can pee at any time. They did studies on squirters using ultrasounds during masturbation to show the bladder filling then emptying.
@wolfcat87 ok I read that study, but it could be that only squirters can pee while aroused, but I know for myself and some other girls who can't squirt peeing while turned on is really difficult if not impossible because that area gets congested, and it becomes hard to pass urine even if you feel like it
@Blossom5 They are not voluntarily peeing. There's a difference. It's hard too poop voluntarily while in labor, but it's very common for women in labor to poop. Every woman studied was peeing herself. Not a single one squirted with it not being pee. That speaks volumes. There is nothing else down there capable of producing enough volume to squirt except the bladder. People try to blame a gland the size of a number 2 pencil eraser, but how much fluid can something the size of a number 2 pencil eraser hold? Not enough to notice. There's nothing else there. The bladder, the anus, and the uterus with blood. That's it for organs large enough..
@wolfcat87 yup, I got you. I guess only squirters can pee while aroused but it's involuntary, and that liquid they squirt isn't only urine. I don't think that same thing happens to women who don't squirt though. They can't pass urine even if it was involuntary and that's because the area is really congested.
@Blossom5 @wolfcat87 It can be done involuntarily and in that case it's called coital incontinence and treated as a medical condition. It can also be "forced" voluntarily, but basically requires that a woman override her body's natural inclination to not pee when aroused, and for many women, that means they actually have to be LESS aroused to perform this "magical feat" (which is why it often happens instead of an actual orgasm.)
Now I know the truth
very informative, thanks.
Thank for sharing.
Nice I love squirting pussies, it's my favorite porn! & Also my girlfriend leaks gooey white stuff that looks like semen when she orgasms.
Great information. Thanks for sharing.
Ahlie?
Thanks so much for writing this. So many idiots online are always like "oh I squirt, I'm so hot." and deny it's urine until they're blue in the face. It's really not possible or even appealing for me. Pissing over your partner is not hot lmao. People who think women squirt ejaculate shouldn't have sex until they learn female anatomy and that includes dumb women.
Cum is of Latin origin, Scum is of Germanic origin...
Yes, a word spelled as cum is of Latin origin, but the reference to semen as "cum" is Old English based on the Germanic word "scum". If you want to correct my etymology, you have to know it better than I do.
squirting pussies are beautiful and amazing! that's one of my most favorite types of porn to watch, and I guess you are right, some are really into it, others may hate it and it's just meh to them. it's a big turn on to me though, besides, it's a way to be completely certain that a girl had an orgasm, I' sure most guys would agree lol.
The pussy doesn't squirt. The fluid comes out of the urethra. And it doesn't mean a woman had an orgasm.
Did you even read the Take @anon
Hey I'm a bisexual male. I always thought I was gay until last year I started developing attraction for women, I realized I was in fact bisexual. So my whole life I only dated and been with men.
Lately I been wanting to explore and experience things with women, but being a 25 year old guy who doesn't know anything about women is kind of embarrassing. I never bothered to learn or experience because I never had a reason to thinking I was gay.
So now I feel I have to learn a lot because I'm just starting to figure out information about women. I always assumed squirting was a thing. Sorry if this sounds pathetic.
We only know what we've been told. Unfortunately, not much is ever presented to people in sex-ed about eh female orgasm or what we need to achieve it.
Yeah true, but a part of it's probably my fault to. Since I've been gay most of my life, and now I find women attractive, I sometimes don't know how to learn more about women or to ask questions because of embarrassment or social pressures to remain gay after being gay for so long. It just kinda feels weird to ask questions about women when I feel people already expect people my age to know already. I'm still confused about how the female body works and what exactly I have to do, which further scares me to even try something with a woman in the first place, and I just get scared and rather stay in my gay bubble.
I mean if I were to have sex with a woman now, I'm basically a 25 year old virgin if you think about it. Because I've never been with a woman.
I think you just need to find a woman you can really talk to. I welcome people to DM me with honest (not wank) questions, and I can recommend resources for learning more. If it's any consolation, straight men your age don't often know a whole heck of a lot about our bodies either.
I think I read somewhere that statistically lesbians and gay men are better at satisfying themselves as opposed to straight couples, and I think I read that it's because since they know their bodies, they would know how to work the same side. I've even heard bisexual men say Gay Men are better at blow jobs then straight women. I've also heard bisexual women say the same about lesbians vs men. I don't know I guess that means there's a learning curve when it comes to hetero sex
by the way why is that a rumor? That men sometimes suck at bed from women? Are sometimes men bad at satisfying women because of their lack of knowledge? Is it because they don't last as long as women? Is it because they are selfish and don't pay attention to what the women likes and only focus on themselves and don't take time to explore the woman thoroughly and guys just give up once they get their rocks off? I'm curious.
Thank you so much for being helpful, you're very kind, it's hard for me to talk about these things sometimes but it's encouraging to see you understand my struggle. The only women I know honestly are women who are either lesbains, straight women who are already in relationships, or straight women who are more like family to me so it's hard for me to see them that way. So I don't know a woman right now, I would have to find one. lol
It's a combination of a few things. It's that the only thing you ever learn in sex-ed is how to do that one thing that makes a baby, and the female orgasm is ignored in that discussion. It's that most of the only other things people learn about sex is from porn, and on porn sets, nothing is really done to make it orgasmic for women because the female orgasm doesn't show up on screen. If you know what to look for, you can see a lot of women in porn aren't even very aroused. It's also partly that men can get very ego driven about doing what they think will work on a woman's body, but not be very good about letting each partner teach him how HER body works, and women are not rewarded for being assertive about it. Women often report feeling like their male partners think of their orgasms as a bother, and often refuse to participate.
So why aren't more women honest with their man and just tell them that what they are doing isn't enough and tell the man what they like? Or are they like afraid to make him feel bad and inadequate and that's why they don't say anything?
Why is it ever hard for any female person to stand up to a male person in our society? All the same reasons.
"Why is it ever hard for any female person to stand up to a male person in our society? All the same reasons" Sorry I don't understand this part, do you mean women aren't honest with men in the bedroom is because of the patriarchy? Like in what way specifically, just trying to understand. The reason I said what I said is because whenever I heard women, for example, talking about Faking Orgasms, many of them say they do it because they don't wanna make the man feel bad because they have fragile egos when it comes to sex. And I've heard of many stories where women comprise honesty because they don't wanna hurt the man's feelings when it comes to the bedroom because many males are prideful with giant egos and would get their feelings hurt if a woman told him the way he was doing it wasn't working and to do it her way. What I typically hear is that men have fragile egos and are prideful in the bedroom, and women generally lie to not hurt their feelings because men have a pride problem
Even though I understand the thought of not wanting to hurt someones feelings, I have a hard time understanding why it's such a common trend for women to lie or to not be honest with men, and to guide them into doing what works for her. Sometimes it puzzels me why more women don't just open up and talk to their man. But maybe thats because there might be a trend of men who take ti the wrong way and become unreasonable and have a hard time letting their ego go and following a woman's direction because he assumes he doesn't need help and him alone can figure out how to please all women?
Do men act unreasonably when women open up and tell them what they are doing doesn't work and should do this other thing instead? Like How do conversations work? Are men prideful with Girl "Hey don't do it like that, put the finger here, i like it when you do it like this" Guy "What are you trying to say? You don't like how I do it? Huh, you don't think I'm doing it right? other women never complain, my ex never complains, maybe somethings wrong with you. GRRRR!! Like straight men take such offense to a woman guiding him, if men simply started listening, communicating and making that adjustment will benefit everyone?
Yes, many women have experience with trying to explain something to a male partner and being ignored, have the man behave in a sullen manner, etc.
did you write all this jargon to compensate for being an unorgasmic non squirter that can't cum?
Neither. My Skene's gland doesn't squirt like most women's don't, but I based this in the current science on the subject. I also know how to produce the other kind of squirting, but since it's pee, I don't really care for it. I am remarkably orgasmic when I receive the kind of stimulation I like.
Dude, I've felt the stimulation described that is supposed to make women pee all over the place. it's not nearly as nice feeling as the many other types stimulation in the bedroom. No, thank you. I cum left and right, but I keep my pee in while I do so. Yay! Also, just about any man who's had tons of good sex can prolly vouch that even men can have dry orgasms that feel exactly like wet ones. No loss there, just less messy.
@wolfcat87 : you're talking about non-ejaculatory orgasm. Those in touch with their body can have a full-body orgasm by thinking about it. I can.
Thank you.