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The logical response and flipside to: No Man Is Entitled To a Woman
Most men do NOT believe he is “entitled” to a woman simply because he made the effort and asked her out. Men do, on the other hand, know that women use sex or the false promise of sex as a tool to get things they feel ENTITLED to from men.
Men also don’t feel “entitled” to a woman because "he is a nice guy”. But guys who are nice to women do understandably get annoyed and upset when they are USED by entitled women who flirt and use their sexuality as a way of getting attention from him to stroke their own egos and get free shit.
No man believes he is entitled to a woman because she "should" want him based on what "all women say they want". But men do again get understandably annoyed listening to a female complaining endlessly about their shit decisions and getting USED by other guys because she believes he should be there to listen and support her stupid ass while she makes endless poor choices and if he doesn’t the she will call him “entitled” because he refuses to be used by an ignorant selfish woman over and over.
Understand this: just because you exist and have a vagina does not mean men owe you anything. Time, Money, or Things!
No man has to say yes to your invitation to buy you free drinks or other things, or be there to listen and give attention to your broken stupid ass “as your friend” because you flirt and make them feel they might have a chance...
...because while you tricked him, you flirted with and got shit from 1000 other guys who you also had no actual interest in.
So when you act like a cat in heat to manipulate men into giving you things, they will actually believe you want them for more than your shallow materialist greed and that is not the fault or problem of the one currently standing before you and it is never the fault of any man who believes that your actions mean you are interested, because they are "allowed" to assume your sexualized interest means you are interested, that’s basic biology and therefore something you should know before acting like a sexual creature towards the opposite sex and then shaming them for taking interest.
If being a whore is the bare minimum you can be that doesn't mean you deserve anything from a man. It doesn't mean you are entitled to his time, money, or stuff. Just because you showed up with a vagina and a false promise of sex and put in some fake ass effort to pretend you were interested doesn't mean you get to use his money and then act like he is a creep for believing you were a good person.
Despite what any idiotic feminist or the gynocentric society would have you believe, you do NOT have the right to use your body in a sexual way to scam men and then magically expect them to not try or expect that it means more.
You know as a woman that if you don't like a guy or he's ugly to you or whatever, you don't get to pretend so you can get shit, Why do you think this is Ok? or doesn't apply in the reverse when it comes to men doing it to women?!?
Life is what...unfair. You were born a woman in a gynocentric society that largely seems to hold fast to the idea that you have no responsibility for your actions and men are to blame for everything, but you can experience repercussions for your actions and a lot of it but no man needs to apologize to you for that or trying to make a move after you showed fake interest.
Dating is hard enough for men, and having garbage females pretend to be interested for free shit does not help. So if a guy thinks that means you are interested and tries, it doesn’t mean he feels “entitled”. There are no special exemptions. When you act like a cat in heat the reality is you will be treated like a cat in heat by the opposite sex, so keep trying to shame men and acting like you are the victim, and that your actions do not have consequences, but someday your ability to use your sexuality to get shit will expire and you will be desperate for any man to show you attention and it won’t happen... and once again, you will likely blame men for this.
You are not the prize, stop believing you are.
What Girls & Guys Said
18 38I completely understand not wanting to feel used for what you can offer materialistically instead of liking you for who you are and maybe im missing something but what is it about drinks and food that's a big topic? When I ask this im not trying to start an argument I genuinely am curious. Does the average woman really waste time acting interested just for a free meal and a drink? like are we on average this bad off financially? That seems like an extreme measure for food. Are these women starving? I don't know if I would even call that so much gold digger as desperate and in survival mode if that's the case. Food is different than a Louis Vuitton bag ya know?
Seems to me not really a desperate mood but more of a "Well, if food and drink is free, why not get some?" They don't even really have to act interested. They just have to look attractive, and maybe be a little pushy, they can get free drinks then walk off. I've literally seen women get a drink for their boyfriend before, from some chump who offered to buy her a drink. Or another who intentionally chose something incredibly expensive "What's the most expensive tequila you have?" and then gave the buyer the cold shoulder. I don't think it's the "average woman", though. It's just a handful of the hotter, more sociopathic ones.
@annabananna seems like a lot of effort for free food. I get free sausage rolls by picking up my work colleague and saving her the train fair, a lot less effort XD I'm all seriousness, I have seen this type of stuff happen to good guys... I will always argue that it is not "all women" but some of my best mates have been walked over for a free drink and it is hear reaching to see as the after math is a drop in self esteem as they don't think they are good enough
@zeitgeist057 the reason why vast majority of guys find it so hard to get a date is because they are going after a certain subset of the female population. I can guarantee you that if a female wasn't attractive, she would have nobody buying her a drink. The reality is that the overwhelming number of guys in their 20s,30s,40s,50s who only go after women in their 20s- mid 30s. There is simply not enough young , attractive females to go around. The competition is ridiculously high. This is why the average young , attractive female who has tons of guys hitting on her, can have guys buy her free drinks for her boyfriend. Guys are desperate and there is immense competition for young attractive women.
The majority of women on dating apps and going to bars brag about going to get free drinks and food
I’ve had guys but me drinks when I was younger and would go to bars but I guess it just seems weird to me to pretend to be interested or brag about it. It’s sad people do that but maybe it’s like a little game for them or something.
They do it to measure how hot they are, "can I get guys to buy me drinks, it will validate me".
@zeitgeist057 But guys are willing to provide the attention and go buy the drinks. In fact that’s literally all guys do around hot girls
@shaysh87 yep and that's where the male version of the "subset" you talked about comes in. Those guys buying all those drinks aren't the attractive ones, who don't need to buy drinks or do anything special to get attention from girls. The secure guy, with a good job, physically and emotionally fit, getting plenty of attention from girls, if he even goes to the bar, he's there with some mates and probably isn't making a point of sticking out or hitting on girls. It's the bar flies who go every weekend, or maybe even every night, always hunting, always hungry, and they make up the majority. So they can line up around the block to buy drinks for these girls, who then complain that "there are no good men". It's not true, it's just that the good men aren't acting like the desperate horde, so they aren't in your face.
I've literally had girls approach me to try and get me to buy them a drink. I just point to a random guy in the room or down the bar a ways, and say "You might have better luck over there." If she is cute and I want to talk to her, I might be a little more friendly, smile, and invite her to come back to chat once she gets her beverage situation sorted. :)
@zeitgeist057 Bars are all about good looks. Girls won't approach you at bars cus you have a good job or emotionally fit. Same with guys. Guys won’t approach a girl who isn’t conventionally attractive. The bar scene usually never results in love or marriage. But the reason why girls are able to use guys to buy them free drinks is because there is wayy too much competition for a certain subset of the female population. You have the vast majority of men only going for women of a certain age. This is why men find it so hard to get a woman. This is why these guys are desperate enough to buy women drinks.
You're talking Adam and Eve stuff here. It's always been this way right from the start! Eve made a deal with the Devil to be smarter than the man. Look around, it worked.
You are kidding right. Women are not smarter than men... well not smarter than men who aren’t religious.
So like, you said women aren't entitled to a free meal that the guy "made the effort" to ask her to. What did you actually do, though? Ask a question? I mean, I just did that twice, that's twice as much effort I just did.
At least there's equality on this website.
Oh but that is so not true. Triggered females have things removed all the time... which is why when I see this sexist shit they post that doesn’t get taken down I flip it and repost. Then if this site takes mine down, I can ask why they allowed the misandry.
I would argue in a good society, a man or woman who is decently attractive and plays by the predetermined rules should somewhat be entitled to a mate.
And today. Eh. Lot of women game men using sex to get stuff. Lots of men game women using promises of commitment to get sex. It's life.
Oh dear, "logical", eh? You are asking for trouble with a premise like that.
"But guys who are nice to women do understandably get annoyed and upset when they are USED by entitled women"
So, cut your losses and move on. Such women exist, boohoo, you are conditioning yourself to assume this behaviour of women, by default or at least the ones many would say are hot. Not a logical thing to do.
"No man has to say yes to your invitation to buy you free drinks or other things, or be there to listen and give attention to your broken stupid ass “as your friend” because you flirt and make them feel they might have a chance... because while you tricked him, you flirted with and got shit from 1000 other guys who you also had no actual interest in."
Agreed, though what the hell is stopping you from making your intentions clear to her? Again, there are such women out there. Walk away, it's that simple. Are you having trouble admitting that your wittwe ego got huwt and that you can't let go?
"you do NOT have the right to use your body in a sexual way to scam men and then magically expect them to not try or expect that it means more." Why not? Who are you to say what someone else can or can't do? If you can't think with your head in the heat of the moment that's on you.
"You know as a woman that if you don't like a guy or he's ugly to you or whatever, you don't get to pretend so you can get shit, Why do you think this is Ok? or doesn't apply in the reverse when it comes to men doing it to women?"
What if her goal IS to get shit and she recognises what a pushover you are? It's ok to her, because she achieves her goal.
So, to summarise, you basically say the same shit over and over again. What is annoying about the whole thing is that you said at the start that this was going to be a logical response.
Well, firstly, you haven't responded to anything, you merely invoke one hollywood trope after another, exaggerrate like there's no tomorrow and pretend like it's the women who are the active members of any kind of relationship. That's not how it works.
Secondly, there is very little that is logical about your vitriol. I'm not even convinced you understand what logical inference consists in.
The only thing you manage to convince the reader of is that you are prejudiced about women. That's fine, crazies like you exist.
You and the point took different paths because you missed it completely. Although I do love the poor attempts at petty shaming tactics and personal attacks though. This was a mockery of a serious post attacking men. So LOGICALLY you should have known that any points I made were meant as a snarky jab at the ignorance of that post. But no no, your desperate need to try and virtue signal and act pompous was to strong. I did not and will not read the rest of your post or any going forward, because honestly I don’t actually care. Women are not going to flood your inbox for being their white knight. My prejudice is against women who are entitled, and I don’t need to pander to them because I am not a desperate pathetic simp who needs their validation.
Read the post you are allegedly "responding to" and point out where she is attacking men (with the same kind of toxicity you are attacking women with). Better yet, show me on the doll, where the gold digger hurt you. On the other hand, it is very obvious in your post that you are attacking women. I don't care about this white knight bullshit, you can believe whatever you want. Don't play the "ignorance" card and claim in hindsight this was just mockery. You are full of shit.
Bud. I copied and pasted her text and simply modified it to flip the genders so if you think my post is “prejudiced” towards women but you do not see the prejudice in her take... I can’t help you. The only women I am “attacking” are women who use men or shame men. The obvious exasperation in my response to to shed light on the “get off you high horse” stupidity of the first post and was nothing more. Your desire for it to be anything more is on you. I couldn’t care less what you take from it. Our conversation is done here.
Paying homage does not imply you are responding.
Okay.
Hahahaha, the cats image rules! 🤣🤣
There's an easy solution against all the gold diggers - it's the definition of relationship:
Well men are often told far more than women are "women don't owe you anything" than compared to "men don't owe you anything"
Yes, society is gynocentric and men are treated as disposable protection and cash machines. The sad truth is “Women don’t owe us shit” but they also have nothing but vagina to offer. If they did, they would use men the way that they do.
You could have kept this far more general and said that no person is entitled to literally anything
Taking her post and literally regurgitating it prove a better point, it triggered the people who would have found her post acceptable.
I understand the goal of your post but the facts are the facts and I commented pretty much the same comment on the original post.
By now men should be smart enough not to fall for these traps. And yet so many do.
Do they fall for them or do they finesse back? Men are showing their displeasure by staying out of marriage and relationships. Now it’s all about sex.
Tldr and you forgot commitment. No hymen no diamond... girls are not owed a phone call or date or relationship or marriage from sex. If we decide to pump and dump it is completely in the mans right to do so.
Nobody owns anything to anyone before an agreement for such.
I’m just gonna sit back
eat some popcorn & Read the comments lmao
You're hurting good, innocent girls with this post. Please don't speak for us all.
And that post you are responding to may have gotten you triggered yes. I know about it. But who knows what got her or women like her triggered? The Cycle of life is a b**ch. Lol. Regardless of who started the fight, no matter what both sides say or do, we both need each other's time and physical/emotional affection and connection.
Virtue signalling does not make my post untrue. I at no point said I speak for all men. I also at no point said that this was all women. This post does not hurt anyone, it tells women to be better people. The only people “hurt” by this post are the types of females who act like the ones mentioned. But you keep doin you.
Yes well said. People of any gender or ethnic background can be cruel. But the problem is that men and women are generally cruel in different ways.
Just focus on the caring, empathetic women. And wish the best for those that aren't.
You realize that all I did was flip a take which was aimed at shaming men, right?
I read that yes. It's complicated. I have no idea what they're upset at. But this I do know: they're upset with bad experiences of said "male entitlement", whatever the f**k that means. I actually think more women than men act "entitled". Either that, or they generally act "entitled" in different ways. Women (not all) act and dress for attention all over social media and in-person while men (not all) use force or refuse to handle rejection. It's all nurture and unfortunate especially for men. I hope most women don't think that way.
Sometimes it seems such women are actually hypocritical and manipulative by shaming men for things women do as well (e. g. sex-obssesed, self-centered, entitled, creepy, etc.)
Women do base their communication with men on conditional acceptance - only if you do things she expects - whilst expecting men accept them unconditionally.
Girl next door is the type that doesn't 'punish by rejection'.
That being said, all these girls who act that way, eventually get beaten up/punched in the face by some guy with zero tollerance for their antisociabile bullshit antics.
I... would assume a girl gets access to my wallet - but a) to use it frugally (not more than I do), b) to not finance her brother, dad, and extended family (like Ukrainian swindlers do), c) to be loyal and faithful and wait at home whilst I earn it (which means cooking, cleaning, child rearing)
Well said!
Word of advice.
Be a mercenary. If a woman asks you to spend time, money and energy, demand compensation aka whats in it for me
The same things.
I personally repeated got used. Many many couple of dates, then oh my and my daddy daddy are working it out, blah blah...
Finally, i said fck it. First date was meeting at starbucks - going dutch!!! Then they starting sticking around... WTF is up with that? Ya she had to INVEST into the relationship.
Daughters and nieces are
That last pic killed me😂😂😂