Not having sex & intimacy before marriage if the girl doesn't want to, accept it?

[Qamaar]

what do you think?

[AustinMan]

Not a chance. I'm not going into a lifelong agreement based on intimacy when sex is the engine that drives intimate relationships and not knowing for sure that the sex is great.

[Qamaar]

what? did you understand what was my question or are just dumb dumb

[AustinMan]

I understood your question, which was pretty cryptic, was if she didn't want to have sex before marriage, would I accept it.

[wilcross]

Wow! This one goes deep.
• This only works with a guy that does the game.
• This worked like a charm before the internet.
• But now, a guy will cheat in the worst way while respecting girl choice.

[Qamaar]

FAAACTS

[simonqq]

Since I wouldn't marry someone unless we've been together for at least 5 years it would not be for me. I need intimacy and I don't see the point in being in a relationship if you can't be intimate together.

[Qamaar]

i respect your opinion but what if you fall in love with a muslim girl and she can't have sex? but as i said i respect your opinion

[simonqq]

I already did and we had sex. We are humans and it's natural to want intimacy. If people are punished for this there won't be many in the paradise.

[simonqq]

Did you downvote because I had sex with a Muslim or because I said not many would be in the paradise?

[Qamaar]

what? i didn't downvote tf, i said it was your decision & your choice, i can't control people

[Qamaar]

and if she accepted to have sex with you and its working between u guys that's awesome..

[simonqq]

Alright my bad, I assumed it was you but I assumed wrong. My apologies.

[Qamaar]

apology accepeted

[simonqq]

Sadly it didn't work, but I still care about her a lot and she cares about me. Just her family would kill her literally so yeah...

[simonqq]

Oh and I could possibly survive without sex it kinda depends really but I can't survive without kisses and hugs etc. I just personally don't see a reason to wait with sex if we love each other and want each other.

[Qamaar]

i don't think they will, but maybe her father will feel a little disappointed with her daughter who offered her body to her lover, and finally it didn't work out

[simonqq]

This is different, her family are chechen it's not uncommon with honor killings. She would have to move from the country and never see her family again that's for sure.

[Qamaar]

yeah i understand, but here is my opinion, as a muslim girl, i love my body and i really want to keep my first time with the man I am going to marry, it will be a magic moment for me, as we say "halal moment", but ofc each his beliefs and each of us is free to make what he wants with his life

[Qamaar]

that's actually sad, may allah forgive her and guide her to the right path, maybe it was a mistake but she doesn't deserve this kind of punishement

[simonqq]

Understand, she wasn't virgin already so. She had been married but divorced. She wanted me badly but even she was scared about what she did and stopped in the middle even if she started everything. It's scary to be with someone when it's forbidden and in a culture where you shouldn't be "easy" as a woman

[Qamaar]

scary for her or for you?

[simonqq]

Honestly I wouldn't consider her Muslim but her family is so she doesn't have much choice. Family tradition is very important. She already broke a lot of Muslim rules.

[Qamaar]

she does have a choice.

[simonqq]

Yes of course but would you choose to lose your family or to be harmed? It would not be acceptable if she said she wasn't Muslim or wanted non Muslim men.

[Qamaar]

if my family is forcing me to be someone i don't want to be hell yeah i choose to lose them

[simonqq]

That's good, that's how it should be I think but it's not always easy. You seem to be very intelligent, I hope you will find what you look for in life.

[Qamaar]

thank you, same for you bro

[Cellestial]

Definitely!

[CubaPirate]

Highly unlikely but not impossible, there could be circumstances that I'd consider doing that.