Pro life guys, if your girlfriend was raped and pregnant, are you willing to raise her and the rapist's child?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

[Anonymous]

Absolutely I would help raise the child that’s half hers. Also the rapist would have to pay child support and pay restitution so it’s not like the rapist would be getting away with it.

[hahahmm]

In this situation math is justice. Add 1 life, 1 life needs to be removed from the earth.

[LazerBean]

There's Also something called adoption, which is what most prolife men I have asked this question would opt for.

[EmmaMary]

So if you unfortunately got raped, became pregnant, you would be happy to go through with the pregnancy and give birth, then give it up for adoption?

[LazerBean]

As opposed to killing a baby? Yeah.

[EmmaMary]

Personally it's definitely not something I could ever entertain doing myself... However I thank you for your honesty and fully appreciate and accept your view and decision.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Killing a baby is just how you interpret it. Objectively, they're killing a fetus not a baby.

[LazerBean]

Objectively, a fetus is a stage of development in a baby.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Yeah it's a stage meaning it's not "yet".

[Aiko_E_Lara]

A baby is not a stage in development in a baby. That's what makes the difference

[LazerBean]

I didn't say that a baby is a stage of development in a baby, did I? Every living human being on this Earth is in a stage of development. Did you know that?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

No. I'm just giving you the big difference before you just wanna consider aborting "killing a baby" And of course I know every humans are like that. If i was aborted, then it's not different if my parents fucked the next day and by brother/sister was born instead of me or if they just canceled their plans.

[LazerBean]

So you're saying as long as an innocent human does not know they are being killed, it is okay to kill them because it makes no difference?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

No. I'm saying that they're fetus and has nothing to do with "innocent humans" you keep bringing up. I'm saying it's ok to abort. Im not saying it's ok to kill a human.

[LazerBean]

fetus /ˈfi·t̬əs/ a human being or animal as it is developing in the uterus before birth, after the organs have started to form A fetus is by definition a human.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Like saying a sapling is a tree "as it is" developing. A sapling isn't a tree just yet. So if you really like to say a fetus is a baby then how come it's not in the synonym list? www.google.com/search Sure it says "unborn baby" but it's quite long which is why the word "fetus" exist for it to give it a different meaning.

[LazerBean]

sap·ling /ˈsapliNG/ noun a young tree, especially one with a slender trunk. A sapling is also by definition a young tree. You are just arguing with the dictionary at this point.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You still never explained why it's not synonym. I also did use the dictionary. Why did the dictionary separate the word fetus and human?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Also you didn't realize that you're using the dictionary wrong.

[katiesmuff]

Unfortunately I think that is something you could never truthfully answer until actually in that position. As for your original comment about the adoption, currently there are thousands of newborns and older kids waiting to be adopted which your idea would only lead to more needing adopted which will never happen. You will find that this Religious Right Republican group who wants abortions banned sure don't jump up to adopt any of these kids.

[FilmGuy93]

Look up the Hyde Amendment.

[LemiaOfChampions07]

If my girlfriend was raped and found out she was carring his baby I would rise it. Its not the babys fault it came from him.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

But if she don't want it? It's also not her fault she's raped

[LemiaOfChampions07]

True

[joeldalton]

Plan B pills are standard treatment in the hospital when a woman is raped. You tried, though.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

That's still basically abortion. Because according to pro lifes, as long as she's pregnant, they consider it to be a "baby" in there.

[joeldalton]

If the embryo has not implanted, most people would disagree. But thanks for doing the usual pro abortion nonsense of pushing edge cases.

[katiesmuff]

It's actually a great question as that is an issue the dumb ass far right Republicans would make Plan B illegal to buy or for a hospital to dispense. That is just how stupid things are now depending what state or area your from.

[joeldalton]

@katiesmuff Maybe if shithead liberals didn’t advocate for abortion up till the time of first breath we wouldn’t be here. But here we are. This is the bed the leftists made.

[katiesmuff]

If you had any idea of what you were talking about I would listen! I think if abortions were ever banned women should just shit them out and leave them in your care.

[joeldalton]

@katiesmuff lmao. if you're shitting babies out, you're doing it wrong.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

If the embryo is not implanted then that means she's not pregnant. The pregnancy test wouldn't really care about your notion actually. I guess with your pro manipulation mindset, you'd just not agree she's pregnant because it's what's convenient for you

[joeldalton]

No one said anything about a pregnancy test.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Then how would you know if a girl is pregnant without taking the test? You're not a psychic lets be real.

[joeldalton]

I explained it really simply for you. Standard procedure for any woman who goes to the hospital due to a rape is to give a plan B pill regardless of a pregnancy test or not.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Then if it was proven positive, even if you didn't know, you'd still be aborting while being unaware.

[joeldalton]

You're not pregnant if the embryo doesn't attach to the uterus.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

But if they're attached? Then you just aborted without knowing. It defeats your purpose of being a "pro life"

[joeldalton]

Jesus fucking christ. Do you know how pregnancy even works? You're an idiot.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Do you even? Because you assume she can't get pregnant. You also assume that she has all the time to go directly to the doctor

[joeldalton]

I didn't assume she can't get pregnant. And yes, she does have time to go directly to the doctor. What do you think happens? "Gee, I just got raped, but I have a hair appointment".

[Aiko_E_Lara]

How about "i got raped but i got locked up by the aggressor"? Seriously is that your only conclusion? I guess every reason you have is always about hair appointments.

[joeldalton]

How often does that happen? Or are we pretending we live in hollywood scripts, now? It's so tiresome watching you pro abortion people come up with more and more outlandish scenarios to distract from the fact that the vast majority of abortions are due to convenience.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

We're not talking about how often that happens. I'm still talking about if she got pregnant. You know what else is tiresome? Watching you pro manipulations making excuses to just control anyone for their decisions just because of your feelings towards a fetus which you don't even make any effort in trying to raise one that isn't yours. That's why you're using Plan B pills as a loophole just to make it seem like you're not justifying abortion because it's what's convenient for you.

[joeldalton]

You are the one being manipulative. You're fishing for sympathy for rape victims to justify abortions.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"You're the one" that's not how it works. Because I can just easily use those words against you and your agenda. Yeah i'm justifying abortions of all cases but im not justifying murder. Big difference.

[joeldalton]

Right. this was your bs manipulative question, not mine.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

To call someone "pro abortions" to actually manipulate anyone's from sharing their views. You see how you defend yourself so much when i call you pro manipulation? When you just like to call pro choice "pro abortion" like a hypocrite you are.

[joeldalton]

Um. That's what it is. Pro Choice is the Choice to have what, exactly? The choice to have extra mayo on your sandwich? The choice to drive an audi?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Well yeah they also are given the choice to abort but also given the choice NOT abort. That's what you fail to see. But you just like to monopolize the discussion about abortion assuming that all women wanted to be pregnant and anyone who disagrees with you are just "evil" that needed to be jailed. Not realizing that you're basically sounding like those supremacists who take away people's rights.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

NOT *to abort

[joeldalton]

The 'pro choice' is always the choice to have an abortion included. Just like 'states rights' during secession were always the right to hold slaves.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It is still a choice however and they still have the choice not to do it. Because unlike pro lifes, we don't put them to jail for keeping their fetus. So how about if we put people who forces a pregnant girl to keep her fetus in jail? Don't like it? Then that's pro hypocrisy.

[joeldalton]

oh, again with the stupid scenarios. Come back when you can live in the real world.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Well it's only stupid because it proved a point. Or I guess that's your attempt to just try to run away. Call everything stupid and call it a day. You know what? I can also say putting people in jail for aborting is also stupid. You're not the only one who can do that you know

[joeldalton]

Right, but when you do it, it’s because you’re desperate to pull a W out of your ridiculous question.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Then I can also say you're desperate to pull a W out of your ridiculous answer. That's why you stop proving a point and you just have to say anything that just comes to your mind

[Anonymous]

I don't know what is pro life, but if I understood good this is my answer :

Yes, with the money of the rapist, or not.
Also I would be close to her, she would be devastated by that.
I'd pay also a psychologist if needed.
I'd marry her asap, and do anything to feel her better.
This will definitely not be easy for both of us, will not be easy to grow the rapist's child, will not be easy to let the child understand when s/he will know about that.
But everything will be easier than living with the regret of killing a human.

But first, I'd date a girl who's respectful of life and also embryos.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Well really have to see because most guys wouldn't really raise children that aren't theirs which is why many guys wouldn't date single mothers.

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know if I would date a single mother. But the rape episode you described happened when she was actually my girlfriend without any children. A girlfriend is actually a promised wife, not a casual date, so I should take my responsibility in that case.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Why should you take your responsibility? That's because you care if they abort it so to be fair, you should be responsible for who you made a commitment to otherwise you'd just be a complete hypocrite if you leave them for that. Unless you're a pro choice.