RE: "Why Don't Men Have The Same Sympathy For Female Virgins?"

A response to an anon's question, "Why Don't Men Have The Same Sympathy For Female Virgins?." I didn't want this to be my 99th MyTake, but whatever. I'm dealing with a Femcel simpleton over there who'd probably erase my post anyway. So I'm just officially making it a MyTake.

"Why Don't Men Have The Same Sympathy For Female Virgins?"

It's because women are the gatekeepers of sex and can literally lose their virginity whenever they want, while the vast majority of men have to demonstrate value before even the most unattractive of women would give them the time of day.

It's like how in The Simpsons, Lisa Simpson comes off as an unpopular loser and nerd, but will also sh*t on and look her nose down on male unpopular losers and nerds in her same school, like Milhouse, and then wonder why people have sympathy for him, but not her. It's the same exact premise.

RE: Why Dont Men Have The Same Sympathy For Female Virgins?

"Plenty of adult women are virgins NOT by choice and it can be pretty sad."

Bullsh*t. This is contradicted by also saying, "Anyone could lose it if they wanted." Except for men, rape is literally the only option they'd have to "lose it whenever they wanted." It's then contradicted even more by her saying,

"I want companionship. The sex is just a byproduct of being in love."

Which means, it is 100% a f*cking CHOICE for you, then! You don't get sympathy for being entitled and waiting for the perfect man to marry you! You want love, and that's perfectly fine, but it is a CHOICE, if you are saving yourself for the perfect man. You're not in a choiceless position as a female, thus aren't entitled to any sympathy. What about that, don't you understand?

RE: Why Dont Men Have The Same Sympathy For Female Virgins?

For women, it is QUITE LITERALLY a choice if they are a virgin or not. There is literally only two ways a man could "easily" lose his virginity: rape and paying a prostitute. And contrary to popular belief, hookers and escorts aren't as abundant and easy to find as you think (you'll just have to trust me on this.) At best, in the modern day and age, you have sites like Eros.com and EscortAlligator.com, and previously Backpage.com, but the Trump administration mostly shut down almost all of the escort sites that used to exist and the few still remaining operate outside of US and Canadian jurisdiction.

Speaking of which, you're even more SOL if you live outside of the US, Canada, England, Australia, or The Netherlands. OR if you don't live in or near a major city in those countries. So unless you want to advocate for more desperately lonely, near suicidal, unloved men to start raping women, you really can't compare male loneliness to female loneliness.

And no one even criticizes female virgins, anyway. If anything, they're held in high regard, as both marriage material and as not being disgusting selfish whores in a day and age where whores are abundant. Female virgins are treated like gold and oil, while male virgins are literally mocked and bullied into suicide and committing mass shootings by calling them incels. And then the pieces of sh*t who mock and bully them, act all surprised when they drive such men into extremism, as if they literally had nothing to do with it.

RE: Why Dont Men Have The Same Sympathy For Female Virgins?

You want to talk about a lack of sympathy? You have an 18 to 24 year old female who is more-than-likely attractive enough to get laid anytime she wants and complaining about a "lack of sympathy" while millions of men unlucky enough to be born to ugly parents and end up below six feet tall, ugly, or otherwise just have bad genetics, contributing to shyness and a lack of social skills, who get ignored by greater society daily, or at worse, labeled as woman-hating terrorists by piece of sh*t feminists and far-left extremists, just for existing.

But no, YOU have it "bad," miss college-aged, in-shape, young female whining about men "not wanting to marry her." Unless you're morbidly obese and/or have poor hygiene, you will never even come close to knowing how badly some men have it in society. And in today's day and age, even extremely obese women have no issue finding male suitors. (I'm not even turned off by them, myself.) And they're the ones who would struggle the MOST to find companionship being female.

RE: Why Dont Men Have The Same Sympathy For Female Virgins?

So WTF is even this question? "Why don't men have the same sympathy for female virgins?" NO ONE trashes female virgins. Like, at all. Women always have a choice to lose it or not. Men do not AND are mocked by society for being virgins. But YOU want "sympathy?" Are you kidding me?

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THE TL;DR VERSION & MAIN POINTS:

1. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships and many of them don't even like how much male attention they get.

2. Female virgins are more likely to be praised for their chastity than criticized.

3. There's no short supply of horny and/or lonely men out there, and not all of them, or even most, are "creeps."

4. Being picky and entitled and waiting for a perfect man to marry, IS a choice, thus you aren't given sympathy as a woman, for being in a "hopeless situation" like so many virgin men are.

5. Without being physically attractive, suave, or wealthy, men's only options are rape or prostitutes, and the latter are hard to find and expensive. It's hardly a "choice" with such limited options as those.

6. Most male virgins in their 20s and older, are referred to as "incels" and mocked by both women and men, especially if short, overweight, or not conventionally good-looking.

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  • That female was probably a troll lol but as I been saying any women can lose her virginity their is no struggles for woman in that department idc what they say or how they say it. They reject men subconsciously all the time and pretend they do not and have tons of suitors but pretend they do not and have tons of guys in the friendzone and pretend they do not. It's about the stupidest thing I ever heard.

    That's why every girl i ever been with was always a jump off lol played house once and never again.

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  • I've literally never seem a virgin woman get mocked by anyone other than other women, usually women who has diminished their value somehow (40 year old single moms who've been ran through, for example). I agree pretty much with everything you've written and is pretty well stated. Rape cases (of men raping women) do tend to increase when you have a large chunk of men who cannot get laid. Women don't need to do much beside exist to get laid.

    • Why do you think other women ridicule virgin women though? It happened to me throughout high school... and those girls weren't middle aged single moms either.

    • @Anjoomkabir what kind of girls were they? The type of girls I knew in middle and high school were usually the girls who had many boyfriends or simply just slept around. That's another thing that reduces the value of a girl and is usually seen as unattractive so maybe that's why.

    • I mean the girls who laughed at me for choosing to stay a virgin were close friends. They weren't promiscuous in the sense that they slept with everyone they came across but they did have boyfriends they slept with.

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  • Oh gosh

    "if women have sex we are whores and if we don't have sex we're bitches or stuck up "... 🙄

    "I want companionship. The sex is just a byproduct of being in love."

    Which means, it is 100% a f*cking CHOICE for you, then!"

    That's nasty as fuck! And makes men sound disgusting what this is indicating is that a man will have sex no matter what with anyone anywhere no matter whether the sex is good or bad it makes men sound like animals and it's actually very belligerent to most men out there who do give a f***

    This is proof to why those men who think like this are out there crying that they can't get laid and don't get laid because if they think like this they have no standards and women worth having don't want men with a lack of standards who believe one pussy is as good as the next!

    Whatever I have no pity for a man with this mindset. Men who don't get laid because they get angry at women because they feel we HAVE TO PUT OUT JUST BECAUSE MEN WANT IT don't deserve sympathy.

    I'm an attractive woman but it's not my job just as it is not any other woman's job to have pity for the men not getting laid especially if he has this sort of entitled thought. And Im not going to put out just because some random man wants it.

    Sex to this type of men is just a relief and that's what puts women off.

    The choice isn't to have sex or not have sex

    The actual choice is between having bad meaningless empty and unsatisfying sex vs great fulfilling meaningful sex.

    And where men have the advantage is it is way easier for men to reach an orgasm without an emotional connection... Men can reach an orgasm within seconds so ya it's no wonder some men think sex is just for the sex and therefore women should be so "stuck up" about it. Anyhow no point in explaining it because the good guys who give a fuck about who they take to bed and actually want an emotional connection with a woman aren't the ones reading this post.

    • You're saying "male sexuality is sexist because it's not like a woman's and based on love and emotion" (although that isn't true and some women will have sex with almost any man). That's what you are saying. Either way, the point of the post is, there's a difference between having standards and whining about being alone. You can't have a laundry list of standards and then complain about no man in existence meeting those standards. That's the point. That's why people like this don't get sympathy. There's supposed to be a balance between having REALISTIC standards, and being entitled. If one is entitled, they can't complain about their own self-imposed limitations. If one isn't picky, they can get what they want easily, but in all likelihood, it won't be fulfilling to them. That's the point. No one is saying you have to put it out there for any man. Nor does anyone want you to. But like I said, if you have standards, especially high, hard-to-meet ones, you are restricting yourself, therefore can't complain about your own restrictions, let alone expect pity and sympathy for it. And again, you're shaming men for not thinking and behaving like women. Cause shockingly, men AREN'T women! Yes, men are biologically wired to want sex much more than women, and will become depressed and unloved if they don't get it. Unlike MOST women, who aren't wired that way.

    • "The actual choice is between having bad meaningless empty and unsatisfying sex vs great fulfilling meaningful sex." That's still literally a choice. Her post was whining about being a virgin, not about falling in love with her perfect 10 out of 10 man she feels entitled to, but offers nothing back in return to. Again, men and women are DIFFERENT. And most men don't think like this. Especially since most men aren't in the position to be this picky about their partners, to begin with. Only women get this kind of luxury. So no, it is not a lack of choice. It is entitlement because you feel like you deserve perfection, instead of "good enough." "Is it is way easier for men to reach an orgasm without an emotional connection." So now you're admitting that men and women ARE different, thus invalidating your previous points about emotions and such and implying men need to think like women. And then, you completely walk it back and say "only good men are saving themselves for marriage" and that any man who just wants sex and nothing more must be an asshole. So either men are assholes for being able to separate sex and love, or they can orgasm without an emotional connection or being demisexual? Which one is it? Please pick one side and stick to it.

  • It's not that easy for women to have actual sex. What is "easy" is for women to find someone who will use her body to masturbate with like she's a thing and not a person.

    If a morbidly obese woman hooks up with a man 99.99% of the time he's going to just treat her like a fleshlight or have a nasty fetish for her belly fat and want to spend most of the encounter making her do some weird shit like eat out of his hand.

    Most men never even bother to learn how to give a woman an orgasm so most of the sex they are going to get is going to be even worse than no sex at all. Imagine trying to have sex and knowing it probably won't even feel that good or might even just hurt, you'll be totally dehumanized, and you are at risk of extreme violence.

    Also, Lisa Simpson is a lesbian, she would reject any man, the mythical "Chad" included.

    • I'm guessing you're a feminist, aka hates all men and blames them for everything? If not, I apologize, but it certainly sounds like it. Whether you want to have a deep emotional, loving experience with a perfect man you want to marry, is not what is being discussed here. What's being discussed, is having sex. Or even, any partner at all. As I said in another comment, a woman being picky, entitled, and demanding, are self-imposed restrictions and does not stop a woman from losing her virginity, or even finding a partner. The problem is, they think they are entitled to someone more perfect than reality suggests they're worth, because if they were so "deserving" of their mythical 10 out of 10 man, then they'd have them by then. But most of these women never stop and think if THEY are the problem and not "every man not be good enough for me," just like OP of this original post implied, exactly like women imply incels do. So she's a Femcel for complaining about her own entitlement and arrogance to want men who clearly don't want her. But if a man does it, then only HE is considered "wrong" for being shallow and entitled. And what you said isn't even accurate. What makes you assume all men are going to be selfish bad lovers, just because they didn't chase you down, simp to you for months on end, and marry you first? And canonically, Lisa Simpson is NOT queer, as she marries Milhouse in the future and has a daughter with him. Not that I care, but that too is incorrect.

  • This is a Men vs Men issue.

  • Do you prefer an experienced woman or a virgin?

    • I don't care, either way. As long as she's monogamous, faithful, not a sex worker (or former one), and a good person. I've never really cared much about "body count," and I'd rather not know.

    • makes sense.

  • True, it much easier for women to lose their virginity than for men, women are the gatekeepers.

  • This is true, but it's men who are at fault.

    No matter how freak show a girl is, there is a perverted guy who's into it.

    No-legged pock-marked and toothless? Join up with the affiliated men's appreciation organization and get all expenses paid trips to their conventions in Las Vegas every year, where you'll be outnumbered 10-1 by desperate guys.

    The problem is that those girls thing they deserve a 9 who makes 100k.

    • Yeah, but not all men are simps and beta like that.

    • Men will fix every problem when feminism is abolished.

  • I agree I could Refuse men sex if I wanted
    And they would not get any.

  • GOOD FOR THE TUMP ADMINISTRATION

  • Can one word be jealousy?

    In the meantime, I would appreciate it if you could comment on my question.

    Girls, An unfortunate man?

    If you have a dating mobile app, what should it be called?

    #Reigner

  • Well that's is too much to read but more or less...
    So actually men actually do have a choice just like women... Not every woman can get all the men they want and most that hit on us like you say we can choose are either creeps or weird like you might say "waiting for the perfect man" woman are more sensative and have sex over love some don't but woman do it more by the heart men are less likely to get raped so don't even get me started on that if more men were more confident and considerate and just nice maybe your chances would go up a bit yes it might be up to the woman if you guys do have sex or not but keep in mind that is just simple consent like if I were with a man and they said they didn't want to get touched I would not touch them but that never happens now does it? Guys would do anything just to get laid. woman need to feel comfortable in order for them to give you their consent... and trust me the more a guy forces us the less likely we would want to do it with that person... Everyone has a choice... And actually yes woman do get critized a lot on being a virgin or not.
    You are either a slut or a loser that is too ugly to get dick so we never truly win... Guys on the other hand... You lost your virginity? Oh sick bro such a boss

  • TL:DR women aren't shamed 99% for being virgins, it's actually more socially acceptable (maybe even praised) than men being virgins. Women are actually more easily able to lose their virginity ("being the gate keepers"), and if it really were just as easy for a man we wouldn't be constantly thinking about having to fight so many false accusations and possible rape charges just to have a good.

  • When a woman is a Virgin in her twenty people say it’s weird but also that s a great things

    • I think only a few women say it's weird.

    • It’s men who say it’s weird not women and that’s cause they assume all women older than 18 are not Virgin

    • No, I doubt that. Many men wish to get together with a virgin, if not marry her. Most men don't want to be with a woman with a high body count. I think you're projecting female logic onto men, cause we don't badmouth virgins.

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  • LMAO How the fuck does anyone who lives with their parents, has no job, and does nothing all day ever meet anyone LMFAO. Where are the women who do nothing all day anyways? Why don't we hear about angry women spewing junk about men on the internet?

    Look I had girls throw themselves at me in high school, but I was too bored and disgusted by their stupidity to respond.

  • So what is your point here? Complaining about the double standard surrounding virginity?

    The most alarming thing here is that you present rape as one of your only two options to lose your virginity if women don't find you attractive... what the actual fuck is that about?

    • Saying rape is one of the only options unattractive looking men have to get laid doesn't mean I condone rape. It's not an actual "option" unless you're a criminal/psycho. The other one is prostitution. So unattractive looking men don't have any actual legal options to get laid; they all involve breaking the law. Women do have options. That's the point.

    • And men do too but apparently you would rather pretend those options don't exist and just right into extremes like sexual violence, and prostitution which by the way is legal in certain parts of the united states. ...

    • I gave an entire MyTake explaining how unattractive men don't have options, when women not only have endless sexual options, but are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships themselves due to their role in getting pregnant. So you're going to have to do a lot better than "nuh uh!" without any proving actual options for unattractive looking men to find companionship that you claim magically "exist." And claiming prostitution is legal in a few select Nevada brothels, is a non-solution that only applies to men lucky enough to be rich and afford to travel out there just for less than an hour of likely-unsatisfactory sex, and I'm sure you're aware of how much of a non-solution that is.

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  • Long story short, is because male virginity has never been seen a commodity, or as something to be conquered and it's a pretty pathetic double standard

    • What is the "pretty pathetic double standard?" That women are desired and seen as infinitely more valuable than men, or that you think it's "bad" that women are desired more and seen as infinitely more valuable than men? I don't get your ire here.

    • The issue here that you are trying to synonymize sex and relationships. Virginity is fetishized by men because it is seen as something that is taken... something to be concurred. It's not about the woman it's about piece of skin that lost all of its usefulness once she became old enough to wipe her own butt. When it comes to virginity, it's not the woman that is desired, it's her genitalia, if it really was her that was desired their wouldn't be this obsession with an arbitrary piece of skin. Sex is inherently a MUCH MUCH higher risk activity for women than it is for men. So it makes sense that women in general are more selective about who they chose to have sex with.

    • "Virginity is fetishized by men because it is seen as something that is taken." That's a bunch of BS. I don't think you've met enough grown men, or old enough, to understand just how false that is. If female virgins were only desired for their virginity, then men would only want to deflower them and not look at them as the ideal type of women to marry. Men also would mostly avoid sexually active women (not sluts; ANY non-virgin women), because they would be far less valued, according to your logic. And yet men still do marry virgins, and non-virgins, alike. So your logic does not reflect reality. You're also ignoring the fact that I stated earlier that women are inherently desired and wanted, while most men are not. You're literally trying to argue love and desirability as "oppression. to women" You HAVE to be a feminist in order to have such insane logic. And women have the morning after pill, tons of contraceptives', and abortion as options now, so their risks are minimal. The only risk women have in sex are by being with dangerous men, but that hasn't stopped women from initiating, and engaging in, Hookup Culture, so that point is also minimal, at best. Women are still selective nowadays because they're mostly entitled and so many men being simps and not having self-respect, allows women to continue to be entitled. This issue, is mostly men's fault.

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  • This reminds me of my question, the hotter the girl, the smaller heart they got. can't remember tje exact details of it but if you look at my questions you will find it.


    I am 37 year old virgin because Im only atracted to looks and never have been touched by who they are, what other qualities they have or anything else. I have not chosen, no one chooses who or what they are atracted to or why. Not girls, not guys, not now, not ever.


    I was easily able to relate to your post. I read it all.

    • Thanks.

  • Sorry Sir, too much to read!

    • Lol 😂 your funny

  • Because it is socially accepted by the majority of people and society that women don't have to work as hard as men do to get sex

  • Excellent Mytake! well said!

    • Thank you.

  • As a male virgin at 23 I tried dating a 22 year old virgin girl but I found both of us were too clueless to go forward. I just went to the brothel made her go twice in 45 minutes. She gave me her number. I discovered I was extremely good at sex that night. Never looked back, well I did, at her arse lol