Sexual Relationships 
Sexual Health 
***SETTLING THE "NICE GUY" DEBATE***
INTRODUCTION
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Alright, boys! I decided to put together another take and I'll likely be doing more in the future. Most of the content in this take are opinions that I've posted here in the past. All I did was copy/paste, and add some fillers to bridge them all together. I have a lot of people on here asking me for advice in my inbox right now, and my goal is to be able to redirect them to my takes so that I'm not repeating the same advice over and over again. I'm flattered that some of you guys look up to me, but I don't always have the time to respond to each of your individual questions in a timely manner. I'll always eventually back get to everyone though.
If you don't know who I am at this point, I'm that bodybuilding douchebag who would have probably stolen your girl when I was single. In all seriousness-- I'm 24, engaged, and have a lot of experience with women. You don't have to like me to be able to take my advice. Everything I speak here is the truth, and my perspective is based on my individual experience. I think I've been pretty successful with women and dating... But having said that, you might have had different experiences and therefore different perspectives. You're more than entitled to oppose my views for that reason. I actually encourage that you challenge my views. By opposing me, you'll be able to gain a better sense of clarity in how can apply what I'm saying here into your dating life.
So this take will be segregated into two sections. The first section being the part where I'm addressing men and the second section where I'm addressing women. The issue in this debate is flawed on both sides, so that's why I put it together in this way. It would be in your best interest to read both sections despite being a girl or a guy.
...Men, stop bitching and think for a minute...
Intro...
To the men who are reading this-- what you have to remember about women, is that they all want to be in a love story. Most women crave that intensity. Almost every movie out there that involves love and romance... well there's always some dilemma that keeps them from being a perfect and happily ever couple. They have to go through all those external and/or internal obstacles together. This is what leads them to that point of actually becoming emotionally invested in one another.
A nice guy skips all of that and simply offers her that happy ending with absolutely no foundational value behind it. If you think you can win over a woman's heart by simply being a good guy and treating her right all the time, then you're sadly mistaken. Making any type of forced effort to keep a woman in a constant state of what we would consider neutral happy is a huge mistake. That will result in her getting bored and seeing you as lesser value.
First off, you're not entitled to quality women just because you're "nice"...
I think it's hysterical when guys come on here saying how much they hate women and how they're joining MGTOW because they can't score. The reason why I laugh is that if you look at the question description, the only thing that they mention is how nice they are to women. They literally have nothing else to offer other than being nice.
Alright snowflake, let's think with some rational logic here. Maybe she didn't want to get with you because you're bored and have nothing going for you. Maybe she likes the guy who comes across as a douche because he's actually successful and has more to offer than just being "nice". Yeah, just needed to clear that up before anything.
Understand that women are a little different than us...
Women are emotional beings in comparison to men. It has everything to do with how you make her feel and has almost nothing to do with what you're actually saying. A guy will get home from a date and think that he did really well because he had the opportunity to talk about all of strongest selling points the whole night. He thinks that she will automatically be attracted to him because he goes to a good university and has a high paying job lined up for him. He thinks that she will automatically be attracted to him because he showcased himself in a way that perpetuates this idea that he has good morals and values. That's the mentality of a man looking at this date as some proposed job interview. That's thinking with logic. Remember that women are emotional beings? So fuck all of that noise... the question that you should be asking yourself is how did you make her feel that night? Did you actually vibe with this girl or did you just go through the motions of a date?
Stop being a pussy and say what's on your mind...
If you can make a woman feel in any way, good or bad, then it will result in attraction towards you. Women don't feel anything towards men they're not attracted to. It goes hand in hand with this concept of that girl who hates her ex-boyfriend because he dumped her, yet she still talks about him all the time. Hate is a strong word. When a woman says that she "hates" a guy, then that guy that she hates actually has a huge advantage in winning her over. That's because he has the ability to impact her in a significant way on an emotional level.
Be genuine...
Am I saying that you should go out and intentionally be a dick so that you can get women? Hell no. Nice guys who try and come across as assholes in an attempt to attract women are transparent. As a man, you should NEVER act like something you are not. Women pick up on that very quickly. The issue with nice guys is that they hold back all too often. They avoid confrontational matters with a woman because they think it will result in her losing attraction.
Women will absolutely piss you off at one point or another. This is especially true when you start to open up and become more vulnerable to one another. Legitimately falling in love with someone can be messy stuff, and it's never really a smooth ride. You'll open up, you'll get scared and pull back, you'll become crazy, you'll get pissed off, and then you'll feel like you're cloud nine again. This applies to both men and women. Women experience all of this with more intensity than men for the most part though. This is part of the reason that women are more apprehensive to date certain guys and are much more selective in who they choose to open up to.
Concluding...
My advice? Act on your instincts instead of holding back. Be unapologetically... YOU. If she pisses you off, then call her the fuck out on it. Don't hold yourself back thinking it will push her away from you. Falling in love with someone is raw in the sense that you're opening up your entire being to another person on a genuine level. Considering that, be genuine with how you feel and your emotions towards her.
...Women, stop bitching and think for a minute...
Intro...
I think the problem sort of herein lies in this mindset of becoming jaded in the sense that women judge men right away. They classify potential partner's into category A and category B not realizing how restricting that is to a possible opportunity.
So I suppose if you can take anything from this, it's to maybe open up your options and not filter out guys so suddenly by classifying them into either pretentious asshole or desperate nice guy. No one is one hundred percent good or bad. Good and bad is merely dependent upon the individual who's judging anyways. In general, there's not much in life that's entirely black and white-- especially not personalities and people in general. We're all very multi-dimensional in our personalities. There's no generic cut-out. Considering all of this, my advice is to utilize judgment in a way that actually benefits you instead of disadvantages you.
I think most of the women on here are absolutely delusional in how they judge men, and I'm going to explain what they're doing wrong.
"It's because men don't match my high standards..."
I see women brushing off quality dudes like nothing without even realizing that they're doing it. A lot of the times it's because they have their head so far up their ass, that they've actually developed a delusional inability to assess and judge people for who they are in any sense of rational comprehension.
It seems as if a man can't even approach a woman by genuinely giving a compliment anymore without them mentally shutting him down by categorizing him into "nice guy" or "pushover". If I see something I like in a woman, then I'll just say it. I don't even think about it. All of my compliments are genuine and they aren't handed out like candy either. But if a woman is good looking, then I'll tell her that right off of the bat. I had a woman reject me when I was single because I complimented her looks on an approach. She told me I was desperate for merely saying she looked hot lmao. I ended up hooking up with her later on but the girl was ridiculously dim-witted and was denser than a block of fucking iron. A lot of the girls on gag seem to be just like her in that way.
Here's a harsh reality check to your standards...
Let me explain something to you princess... If you're actually of quality, then you'd be attracting men who are of quality themselves. People tend to date within their own tier in regards to looks, values, personality, social status, and socioeconomic branch. If you're only attracting men who are not to be considered quality, then logic should tell you that you're not quality yourself. It's not rational to sit there and blame the issue on literally every man in the world with whom you come in contact with you instead of yourself. That's complete and utter delusion.
You're not amazing just because guys want to fuck you. If the only type of responses you get from men are sexual, then it's an indication that the only asset you have to offer in the dating pool is your pussy. These men who are telling you that you're beautiful and amazing are only saying that to lure you into sleeping with them. For an average looking woman to receive sexual attention, she simply needs to posts some cleavage on social media and laugh at guys unfunny jokes. Nobody, including men, admires or values something that takes literally no skill, effort, or talent. If your pussy is the only selling point you have to offer, then you're not of quality. You'd have much better luck in landing a real connection with someone who's actually in your league.
My point in giving you a harsh reality check...
One definition of insanity could be described as doing the same thing over and over, yet expecting a different result. I'm not just saying this to roast women. I'm the furthest thing from bitter. I fucking love women, but I'm a realist. My point in this is that delusional thought will hinder your chances in you landing a quality man. If you're not attracting quality men, then do some self-evaluation. Only then will you be able to make some changes.
Judgement can be utilized in a beneficial way...
Don't get me wrong-- It's absolutely necessary to utilize your best judgment when dating. It's human nature to cast judgment. Humans are wired to recognize patterns, and utilizing that logic, there is some truth to every stereotype. If a girl was covered in tattoos, then I'd think she was rebellious and/or of lower socioeconomic status depending on the quality of the tattoos and placement. If a girl dresses up like a bimbo and cakes on her makeup like a bimbo, then I'll presume that she is promiscuous. If a fat nerdy looking dude tells me that he pulls a lot of pussy, then I'll think he's full of shit. If a dude is dressed ghetto as fuck, then I'll think he's ghetto. The list goes on...
Let me explain beneficial judgment by using an analogy.
Here's the catch-- I give everyone a chance. When I was in the police academy, we were taught to be ready to draw our lethal(firearm/gun) at a moments notice in a subtle way while creating a diversion so that you take attention away from the fact that you're ready to lay this dude the fuck out if he tries something stupid. Police officers habitually do this on patrol all the time. You'll notice that when an officer initially rolls up on a sketchy suspect, they'll have their hand on or near their lethal ready to draw out of the holster.
Watch this quick scene from a cop movie called End of Watch.
This is a legitimate field tactic that officers and deputies in Los Angeles use all the time. I even do this as a civilian in sketchy neighborhoods. Here you'll see the two officers rolling up on a suspect who's known have a violent history. You can obviously see how the officer in the driver's seat is drawing his lethal. He's defending himself, and he's being prepared for the worst. In other words, he's using his better judgment to protect himself and his partner. Did the officer here just shoot the man during this casual encounter because he's sketchy? No, he didn't. He kept it cool and felt out the situation, which is exactly what you should be doing.
If you're not giving people a chance, then you're essentially just shooting down a ton of guys with potential based this notion of preconceived judgment. My point here is to utilize your judgment in an intelligent way that actually benefits you. Don't let preconceived judgment lead to an inability to rationally perceive situations and people for what/who they actually are.
Concluding with some personal insight...
I'm going to tell you a little about myself. Most of my good friends are just like me in the way that I'm about to describe. I'm pretty conversational in my real life and people typically either hate me or love me. It's never really a neutral "that guy was cool I guess". The thing is, I can come across as an overbearing douchebag quite often. The people who know me on a personal level don't think like that all though.
I'm far from perfect, and I'd never attempt to make such claims. I might be confrontational to others at times, and say a lot of stupid shit that makes me come across as a dick, but one thing that I can confidently say is that I treat my girl and my good friends right. I'm loyal as fuck and I'm always looking out for my people. I don't cheat. Yeah, I have a lot of freedom that a lot of other guys don't have in relationships, but that's all communicated with her and we both enjoy the dynamic that we have. Honesty is everything with me, and I wouldn't ever do something behind her back. I care about the girl a lot. I also care about my friends a lot. No, that doesn't contradict what I was saying earlier in regards to how you shouldn't keep women in a neutral happy state of mind literally all the time. That's because I genuinely mean all of the things that I just stated above. We still get in fights and have our moments. As I said, I'm far from perfect.
There's a distinctive difference between being a guy with strong morals and values in comparison to a "nice guy". I wouldn't ever want to be known as nice. That's weak as a man, and will almost always result in getting trampled on and taken advantage of by others. A man can still possess strong fundamental values and not considered that "nice guy".
Literally, no girl is looking at me by first impressions and thinking that I hold those values in regards to relationships. I look like a fucking juiced up male bimbo. It just seems as if a lot of these "nice guys" have nice as their only selling point. Also, note that a lot of these "nice guys" can be good at deceiving others and he might just turn out to be an even bigger asshole than the jock looking dude.
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