Sex Between Two Singles Isn't a Christian Sin

I know. Mind blown, right?

Let me specify. Sex between a man and woman, neither are married or betrothed, they are not related, and she is not on her period, is not a Biblical sin. Going by the regular NIV or King James Bible (I don't know about the Catholic Holy Books.)

Sex Between Two Singles Isn't a Christian Sin

First. Important. The New Testament word, in English, for sexual sin is fornication. That's an English word that came about from escorts hanging out under arches. Same way we'd say seeing a hooker is bad--the Bible does not say "Hooker." Why is this important? Because the English word has one meaning, which has changed, and it is a stand in for greek Porneia, which means sexual sin. http://biblehub.com/greek/4202.htm

Sort of like how "felony" means a broad category of crimes today.

Why is this important? Because the Bible literally decided to be nice and list out sexual sins in the Old Testament. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20 God doesn't believe you should be wondering, or making up sins as you go.

“‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

11 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his father’s wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

12 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his daughter-in-law, both of them are to be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

14 “‘If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you.

15 “‘If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he is to be put to death, and you must kill the animal.

16 “‘If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

17 “‘If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They are to be publicly removed from their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible.

18 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a woman during her monthly period, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them are to be cut off from their people.

19 “‘Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be held responsible.

20 “‘If a man has sexual relations with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will be held responsible; they will die childless.

21 “‘If a man marries his brother’s wife, it is an act of impurity; he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless.

Think about it. If God made a detailed list of sexual sins, would a perfect God make an incomplete list? Would he leave off sins? No. That would defeat the point of a list. Is God an idiot, that he forgot sins?

"But unmarried sex is so obviously wrong, it was just understood!" Cries the pastor.

Right. That's why God had to mention sex with animals, sex with siblings, your father's wife, your aunt, all as sins? Because the Jews understood sex between unmarried singles was wrong, but they thought banging a donkey or a dog was fine? Ugh.

Sex Between Two Singles Isn't a Christian Sin

Oh, where does singles sex get mentioned? Exodus 22.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+22

If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife.17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.

And yes, if you sleep with a betrothed woman, that's adultery. That's also touched on elsewhere.But importantly--see how there's a bride price for virgins? That means there are non virgin brides. That's just logic. Because if there was one bride price, there would not specifically be a virgin bride price.

"But in the Old Testament, there was no word for women not virgins!" The Pastor cries. "That's why in some translations it says maid! It can mean young woman, virgin, or female servant!"


Let's check that.

1. If this passage means just "young woman" instead of a virgin, then lots of young women were married. Can you pay a virgin bride price and marry another man's wife? No, that's adultery.

2. If the "maid" translations mean female servant as they do in some contexts, what sense does that mean? You can sleep with any woman, but if you sleep with a female servant, a maid, you must offer to marry her or pay bride price? Class protection against the working class? LOL no.

3. Only "virgin" makes sense, as it specifically talks about betrothal, and virgin bride prices.

Sorry Pastor. Your words ring false here.

Sex Between Two Singles Isn't a Christian Sin

Oh and another...

Deuteronomy 22.

If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity....If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.

Note here, this man was defrauded, and the woman falsely claimed virginity, and the crime was specifically "being promiscuous while still in her father's house."

Note that we know virgins had a higher bride price, meaning there were obviously marriages where the man knew she was not a virgin. The woman had had sex, lied about it, and the man had thought he was marrying a virgin.

As for the verse, It's not "for having sex outside of marriage." Note that when a man seduces a virgin who is not promised, there's no flogging involved. It's only if he seduces a virgin, he must pay the bride price she would have gotten. If unmarried sex was a sin, why would this passage specify "while still in her father's house"? God himself dictated every word in the Scriptures, no?

"But Paul!" You cry. Yes, he did mention sexual sins. 1 Corinthians 5. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+5

"It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud!"

And guess what... that is a sexual sin on the list.

Another time Paul talks about sex sins... " The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also.15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself?"

That's the part Pastors love to quote. Then Paul goes on and pastors ignore... "Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[b] 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.[c]"

Yes. Sex with prostitutes is a sin. And yes, when the Bible says prostitutes or whores, it actually means it. Some people want to go "But isn't a girl who sleeps around a whore?" Well, sorry. The Bible either means what it says, or it doesn't. You don't get to fill in your own meanings.


Lastly, some cling to Proverbs 5:15. http://biblehub.com/proverbs/5-15.htm

Drink water from your own well--share your love only with your wife.

For one, that can pretty easily be read to mean "Don't sleep with other men's wives. Sleep with YOUR wife. " And hence, unmarried sex is a sin. But also, think about it... Proverbs was mostly written by King Solomon, who also recorded a few other people. http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/book-of-proverbs-overview.html

Do you think God would lay out the law in amazing detail, even detailing if a man sleeps with a virgin... and give The Law to Moses, but forget to mention a sin until hundreds of years later when King Solomon came around? Is God an idiot? Are the Scriptures a lie?

Sex Between Two Singles Isn't a Christian Sin

http://biblehub.com/psalms/19-7.htm

The law of the LORD is perfect, refreshing the soul. The statutes of the LORD are trustworthy, making wise the simple.

So here's the challenge if you disagree... prove me wrong. No, I am not saying it's great to have lots of unmarried sex. In a perfect world, we'd all find our loves and marry young and spend our lives together. But, not so.

However, just because you think something is a sin, or the English decided something is a sin, does not make it a Biblical sin. It's same as just because the Bible never condemns polygamy--King Saul, King David, and King Solomon all had many wives and God never said a word, while punishing for them for other sins--would we want polygamy in the West? Hell no. However, why should people carry around high guilt for something that is not actually a Biblical sin? That can lead to a lot of issues around sex, even when married later.

Sex Between Two Singles Isn't a Christian Sin

Feel free to post verses to prove me wrong, I welcome anyone who can prove I am mistaken.

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  • I dont care if having sex with polygamy or with many different guy/girls is a sin,

    But i care that at least its best to be married, and be someones wife have sex with just him

  • it is indeed

  • Since I'm not Christian, I really don't care...

    • Im with you on this one men. Also translating something tousnd years old to point to understand deep meaning of it is near impossible quiz languages changes as we add and remove meanings to words. There are no way to know what realy they ment with those words.

    • @yaanis Exactly!

    • Thousands of the highest ranking scribes translate the Bible. I'm sure they know what their doing.

  • The pope of GAG must have a say.
    @Hispanic-Cool-Guy

    • If he's Catholic, then I don't know. I have never studied their holy books, I only reviewed a regular protestant Bible and cross referenced with greek for this.

    • He is Catholic. So Christians have different holy books?

    • Yes. Protestants believe only a regular bible like an niv or kjv counts. Catholica have more books in their bible and believe other sources in addition count.

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