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Do you ever feel that a woman can treat you how you perceive her? Or how you behave to her and she mirrors?
It seems that a woman will say she wants something, but actually her actions display nearly the opposite. So she says she wants a nice, charming, polite, kind, sweet guy who treats her nice, who texts her stuff, who responds to her. Yet this guy she is extremely slow with, may delay and not be as flirty back to?!
Someone who isn't as sweet or kind, but just hits on her, well to him, she reveals her inner slutty side?
Women treat you how you treat them
See below and opine...
THE WOMAN
- nice personality (sweet, kind, caring)
- fairly innocent in behavior
- very sexy/pretty
Now say she has two men who interact with her.
BOTH ARE EQUALLY ATTRACTIVE:
GUY 1
in her social circle. He is interested in who she is, her interests, passions. He uplifts her. He also texts her, makes her laugh, is sweet, kind etc. He's also pretty charming and treats her like a lady. He is also exciting and they have fun together. She loves his texts, she loves his company, she loves how he remembers things about her. He's fun, he's subtle, he's great.
GUY 2:
someone she met more recently. He may either be in her social circle as an entrant or else someone she just runs into. Now he isn't sweet. He doesn't text her that much at all. He isn't that nice or a gentleman. He doesn't act kindly in that sense. He isn't as eloquent as Guy 1. He can be crazy at times, maybe taking pics with the ladies etc. He is more in your face. He can also be fun, more in your face.
Now for the same woman, if EACH GUY HAS A SEXUAL CONVERSATION WITH HER, will she respond differently?
Indeed, a woman will probably treat each guy differently based on how they treat her. But the confusing thing is, despite women saying they want a nice guy, that guy doesn't see her sexy side or her acting wild? Is this because of the anti-slut defence? Is it that she wants to appear innocent even though the good guy would love to see this side of her?
Sometimes a guy who treats a woman worse (no texts, no sweet words, etc) will have the woman acting so slutty to him. Whereas a good guy has the same woman acting so innocent and hardly initiating etc.
Whilst a good guy wants to have fun with her, she acts like an angel, whilst she dreams about getting a cum facial or having dirty sex, and possibly having that or acting flirty and letting herself go with a not so good guy who isn't actually nice to her?!
FOR EACH OF THESE SCENARIOS, HOW DOES EACH GUY GET TREATED BY THE SAME WOMAN?
1. So if she is hit on, or the guy tells her she looks hot, and he imagines her doing dirty things?
2. If the guy makes a move, which guy is she likely to go to bed with FAST?
3. If she is in bed, which guy is going to be able to call her "a dirty slut", "his cum slut", "a dirty girl" etc?
4. Who will she be dirty for in bed? Guy 1 or 2? Will she be worried about looking like a slut to guy 1 and then not be her full sexual animal that is within her?
5. Who would she want to get a cum facial from?
6. Who would she want to get banged from behind from doggystyle?
7. Who would she act like a total slut for, the guy who is nice to her and she sees now and again, or the guy who she probably won't stay in touch with that much?
8. If a woman met a great guy when she had a boyfriend, and they became friends, and she later became single, would she ever consider that guy as a boyfriend or lover material? What can that guy do? Or will she only act innocent around him?
The lover sees the woman in the top image fast and gets to see her being kinky and free. She then acts innocent and dresses like this for the good guy with him wondering how to tell his female friend she looks cute and he'd love to see more (like the lover saw above).
When you look into a woman’s eyes she should see that you know she wants to get fucked.
Women quickly categorize men. How you behave will determine what role she can see you play in her life.
So in order to be successful with women, can a guy simply never be friendly and kind to a woman?!
If a guy meets a girl with a boyfriend at uni or work, and can't avoid her, naturally they may end up being friends. Now a lot of people claim that the guy is therefore friendzoned, but in this case, there is still a chance right? But the thing is if the girl becomes single, she will most likely act innocent around the guy (friend), when he would be totally fine with her being free and her sexy self?! Sigh...women.
POST YOUR THOUGHTS ON ABOVE, below. Especially the scenarios.
What Girls & Guys Said
10 18THIS is how women work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Fj8JkfhP4Your theories are ridiculous.
Can i get the link for this please.. There are a few guys whi desperately need to see this.
@slimstiffy https://manhood101.com/
Thanks. Nice to see a girl advocating this :-)
The only problem is that men who are kind and caring toward women are wrongly claimed as automatically being lesser men or even homosexual! Many women (and some foolish men) seem to think that "manhood" is merely a matter of acting like a pushy, arrogant ass! As a result, the scum of society, aggressive criminal thugs, murderers, etc are often preferred by younger women and held up as some kind of superior "men" based on their aggressive, arrogant asshole behavior! This might work well for apes in the jungle! But for human beings in a civilized modern society, all it really does is glorify uncaring scum! This may be why females were historically denied the right to choose a mate in societies around the world for thousands of years! If females are naturally attracted to evil scum, there may have actually been wisdom in treating women as chattel property to be bought and sold by men! The ugly truth is that most younger women lack the wisdom to make legitimate mating choices!
@circlebill being assertive and manly doesn't always mean that you have to be a thug or a criminal. Not all criminals are that way, and those who do display it, usually display a type of hypermasculinity that is over the top and intimidating to most women. Also its usually to cover up existing insecurities and a lot of people can see that. Most naturally manly men aren't like that ( however they may have no problem getting into a fight ). They are guys who do normal jobs like most people but dont take shit from people and command respect. And when it comes to women, they are loving and caring, but they are no doormats. This is what most women are attracted to. Hell, everyone is attracted to these type of guys (exept if you are jealous). And the reasom why these kind caring guys you mentioned dont get them is because a lot of them take too much shit and never put their foot down. That trait just seems unreliable to women.
@circlebill Interesting points. It does seem that some women seem to like/glorify guys who don't pay attention to them and who aren't "nice" in the sense of being a gentleman to them, or sending a sweet text here and there. It makes no sense. Sure there are friends. But a friend who takes the time or sends her sweet stuff, or shows her cares CLEARLY likes her. How can she not see that lol? Yet a guy who doesn't do any of that stuff, he can even be less polite, kind, caring, even less handsome, yet she rewards him with flirty behavior?
@slimstiffy You are certainly right when you say, "[being assertive and manly doesn't always mean that you have to be a thug or a criminal". But if you look at the end results of the actual choices many younger women keep making, it's no coincidence that many of these "[assertive and manly]" men are often referred to with terms such as, bad boy, jerk, asshole, player, douche bag, etc. with many women later complaining that all men are no good! Obviously we can't sit here and pretend that everything is hunky dory and womens' hormone driven choices are working out fine. THEY"RE NOT! I believe that too much priority has been giving to being pushy and aggressive as though nothing else matters! To me that translates as foolish choices! I'm talking about the end results!
It's probably mostly hormonal! Male aggressiveness probably triggers mating instincts like an ape in the jungle or something! Then nothing else matters! Usually most women aren't really able to apply intelligent logic to mating choices until they are about 25 or 30! Thanks for responding!
@circlebill thats because these women will call all men who they feel used them these names, I've been called jerk and asshole a lot. I ve not been that much of a player so they didn't call me that and since bad boy is kind of a compliment they dont say that either. Douchrbag, sure a few times. After a while you font even give a shit man. Plenty of men will call you the same shit as well. Trust me, you haven't lived until you have some people who will call you that. If you are not a pushover these things will happen. Just because a woman says so doesn't make a dude a bad guy. It just makes him a man. Only type of men who dont get called that are men who never disagree with women and are completely pussified. Women have their way with them so they dont feel the need to cuss. Coincidentally these guys are also the least attractive to women. So instead of blaming " bad boys" and thinking those guys are all bad, man up man.
@slimstiffy I'm sure you mean well, but you are being more than a little silly! It's understandable at your age! Many people really think that acting pushy and aggressive is what manhood is all about. A woman in her 20s asked me for help getting a job! She's an unwed mother! The baby daddy has been in and out of jail a lot! Very manly and assertive I'm sure! This young lady found a new boy friend! Turns out she had trouble getting to her job interview because she was in the hospital after a beating from her new boy friend! He's very assertive and manly! A friend of mine has a daughter 30 years old who is an unwed mother with 3 children and three baby daddies! Each one was a pushy, aggressive "bad boy" character with a criminal record rap sheet! Such wonderful assertive "men" they are! Please don't tell your cute notions that assertiveness is the key to being "manly"! Acting like an arrogant ass is NOT manhood! But it IS a standard for criminals and people who don't care about others!
@circlebill again, here you are giving extreme examples. Thats not being asseerive. thats just violent. I dont kniw if thats the norm where you are from , but i dont see that where im from. Most young women like guys men on the manly side but not guys who abuse them like that. This sounds like a whole lot of daddy issues to me, and not hormones or attraction. But like i said , thats not what i meant by assertiveness.
@slimstiffy et al What do you think about poiints 1-8?
@slimstiffy Again, I'm sure you mean well. But you can't simply dismiss reality whenever it's convenient to your point of view! So called "assertiveness" is really just abuse turned own with a happy face slapped on it! Most younger women are immature and thus require the displayed theatrics of an "assertive", "manly" man! This is why uncaring men who have little or nothing going for them can be very successful with women just by acting like an arrogant ass! I'm not giving you theories! This is REAL! When women reach age 25 to 30, they start to smarten up and avoid pushy, uncaring asshole characters and start looking for ACTUAL men instead of displayed theatrics! That's adulthood FOR REAL! Peace!
spelling correction-- "abuse turned down with a happy face slapped on it!"
Points 1,2 - depends on the girl. She would respond to the boyfriend nicely while the other guy either gets turned down or gets in faster! boyfriend will get in in time. Other guy either won't, or will quicker. Again depends on the girl. Now if they do get her in bed. 3,4 the other guy will usually get away more wth calling her that , also she may be dirtuer for him, nt so much for boyfriend bciz of reson you said. That being said, there are girl whi will be very slutty for bfs. 5,6 i dont think guy here matters. Those are sexual preferences, she likes them or she doesn't like them so much.. 7 again, if she is the type wgi will taje the ither guy into bed, she will probably be sluttier fir him, but there may be exeptions. 8. That may definitely happen, but it might be a rebound thing or maybe even serious. I don't know what to say to do, when that happens. I guess its just best to be yourself. Well , those are my opinions
To the myTake Owner - I think the bottom line for your points is beautifully summed up in your picture titled "WOMEN'S LOGIC"! That basically says it all!
@circlebill Exactly right? Sigh, will we ever understand it? Shouldn't the good guy who is sweet, kind etc, be the one who sees the sexy side of her?
@slimstiffy Of course every girl is different, but yeah you bring up a point. Pls clarify: 1-2: So would she respond to the boyfriend better? Or a boyfriend material guy I mean. So a dirty/sexual guy who isn't sweet, would she take the compliment well or not so? 3-4: Very interesting. So a boyfriend material guy, can he not use those words in passion? Why would she feel sexy about those words with the other guy? 5-6: So boyfriend material guy can go for that to? 8: Right so if the guy was interested in her (a boyfriend material guy who is sweet), given he holds back since she has a boyfriend, can he be seen as a potential lover/bf after she becomes single? Not as an immediate rebound, but later in life? Cos lots of conflicted advice everywhere between just confess feelings, versus feign disinterest or slowly hit on her? How would she perceive a crush worthy guy who she met when taken?
What you're asking for is applied common sense! Younger women's "feelings" are what they listen to. In nature, human females are supposed to get forced into sex by a strong, aggressive male just like apes in the jungle. A human female's instinctual "feelings" are nature's way of helping them tolerate and even enjoy being forced into sex! If this was not the case, pushy aggressive "bad boys" would be totally shunned by women! They instinctively want a cave man until they get mature enough to know better! They obviously can't admit it, but that seems to be what's happening!
@circlebill. * facepalm... Well as far as i see , the only part i agree on is that many women like men who appear and ask masculine ( but to a limit). Like height, muscularity etc. In my experience, i haven't seen anyone who likes violent or aggressive men. In fact, most younger women dont even want very manly men. What they seem to enjoy most is guys who have great humor and are fun to be around. I think, that conversely its older women who want a more manly rugged man. Thats what im seeing anyway. Well i have heard though about young women going for the bad boys... But its blown wayy out of proportion.. Oh and i really hope you dont take the rape thing seriously. It can be a fantasy at most. I dont think any woman would actually enjoy that.
@circlebill So what if a girl meets a guy when she has a boyfriend. They click, he's exciting but also nice. Now say she becomes single later on in life. Even though the guy and her are social circle people can they become lovers too having met earlier when she was taken?
@slimstiffy What do you make of if a guy meets a girl with a boyfriend. They both click, hit it off etc. She finds him exciting/drive/fun etc. Then she becomes single later on in life a few years later. Given they are periphery social circle but also sweet texters now and then, what can he do?
Also pls see this: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a27854-woman-hears-the-exact-same-thing-from-two-guys-but-she-reacts
I hav honestly. no idea man...
@slimstiffy Either way, I think from reading your opinions here, you would have some knowledge to help! Pls any suggestions would be appreciated over there.
Well, if she is into you, and single, you can always chat with her, complement her ( dont overdo it) and just be funny with her. Then meet up and stuff. I have only been the boyfriend to a girl. I have never been " that guy". Im not really that much of a charmer really. Im just more of a committed, long term relationship kinda guy
@slimstiffy Likewise. What if you met them when they were taken and also you were shier and less confident. But nevertheless you click, she finds you fun, driven etc. Then later on in life, having been social circle for a few years, she becomes single. Can u be flirty with her? And if so how do you compliment her now?
I wouldn't do that. Ifa woman is taken, i stay away. But this situatio. Really isn't different from any other situation with a girl. You just talk, chat , have fun. Get flirty, co. pliment her looks and say something baswd on her reaction etc.. You jist progress like with any other girl.
Yes, it can happen! Most definitely! It happened to me TWICE! In each case, the woman was in her late 20s and in a troubled MARRIAGE! In each case, my impulse was to steer clear. That's when I learned about the heavy realization that can hit a woman after she married a "bad boy" character! They both had regrets about the way they were treated and they both had graduated to actual wisdom! One had children and the other did not! Both were absolute beauties and separated from their marriages! They were very interested in me and each made themselves intimately available! When female good sense kicks in, they finally DO appreciate a good man who treats them well! I'm not recommending you go for married women, but there's nothing like a troubled marriage to make a women appreciate good basic qualities in a man! Hope I answered your question!
@slimstiffy I just said the woman is SINGLE now. Couldn't avoid her company before given we worked together at uni. Now we've both graduated and she has become single just under a year ago. Based on this what can he do? How can he be perceived?
@circlebill Ok but if we're both still unmarried and she has become single?
It's hard to say what approach is best in the case you mention! What stage of life is the lady in? She may be still be in her young, naive and foolish stage! If so, good sense won't apply! She might respond more to things that push her feelings like an aggressive, cocky, funny "jerk" character! Perhaps the greatest advantage of "jerk" characters is the lack of loyalty or caring with a particular female! That stance may or may not be right for you! Is the lady a more mature mindset person? Whatever type of person she is, you eventually need to make her aware of your romantic interest if you wish to pursue it! Perhaps you tell her in a way that's cute, flirtatious or funny! It's hard to say what's best! Good luck!
@circlebill So younger but more innocent than others. So she must have a wild side inside but is more cutesy in public. So how do you reveal those affectionate feelings subtly, given you kept them secret till now given her prior status? As for the jerky advantage pls clarify? This woman would be in her late twenties.
Wow! Quote: "[how do you reveal those affectionate feelings subtly, given you kept them secret till now given her prior status?" This sounds like high stakes! I detect definite elements of genuine caring and kind respect! Ha ha! If you were a secret agent, you'd be in extreme danger of being compromised! Abort the mission! But seriously, many women lack the wisdom needed to value the whole caring, kindness and respect thing! You've shown as much in your own well done MyTake article. You could be giving this lady a level of priority that may not be justified! If she is wise enough and sensible enough to appreciate and deserve your good qualities, it's a win - win! If not... next lady please! Maybe you shouldn't worry so much about being subtle. in my view, the "jerk" advantage is mostly not caring. A true "jerk" sees every female as just another cute rump to hit on! That mindset protects him from being hurt and reminds females that they can be quickly discarded at any time! Good luck!
@circlebill I like how you put it!! I was trying to upvote, then realized it's on another comment lol! Yes I guess I am respectful and do care about her. Can't explain that. Naturally didn't tell her when she was taken. Looks like I was really really unlucky to have met her at the wrong time. On top of this, when she became single, it was when she was abroad for work. I have been unable to visit her due to some personal family health problems. And tho she is moving back soon, I fear that I won't have much time nor privacy to start a relationship and have no idea how I'd even visit her (securing a one to one solo meet up versus a group one) and then get physical for a night of passion? Sigh I guess you have a point about the jerk attitude. Thing is I don't really wanna bang any woman or every woman, only ones who are both hot and nice/click with me. I mean, why would you just bang, if you feel no connection? They have to be a 20/10. As in a Jessica Alba.
@circlebill Otherwise what's the point? What do you think about all this?
You sound like an actual, genuine good person! But as your own MyTake shows, many females lack the wisdom to value that! It's really weird! A very long time ago, during high school I met a good looking girl and I tried to talk to her! With great kindness and gentlemanly respect, I commented that she was very attractive and asked if I might call her some time. Her response was dirty looks and a stream of fiery, hateful insults! I lost my temper, cursed her out and actually HIT her a few times just hard enough to shake her up! I cursed her again and stormed off! Here's the kicker! The next day the girl came to me and APOLOGIZED! She said she knows I'm a REAL MAN and that she wanted to be my girlfriend! It's true! You see, under female hormone fog, a man's bad or even abusive conduct is sexy and attractive! This is why scum-of-the-earth men ALWAYS have females! I believe this is why so many cultures around the world throughout human history kept young women in chattel status!
@circlebill What about this pls www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2164515-who-does-each-person-care-about-in-each-of-these-9-sexual-scenarios
@circlebill Can u help urgently! www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2229447-can-you-match-who-a-sweet-woman-would-do-these-things-with-explain
I wish I could be a lover.
The truth is that the bf/nicer guy should also be the lover. For some reason, some (though many) women don't seem to act to guys that way?
Everyone I've known has wilder sex with their boyfriend. Hookups are the cheetos of sex. Relationship sex is the whole damn ten course meal.
For real though? As in would she react better to a guy friend who is sweeter or a guy who is less sweet? Basically for each point 1-8 above, how would she treat guy 1 and guy 2 described at the top of the take?
It depends on the girl, man. Girls aren't one universal entity with different bra sizes and hairstyles. This is something so many "nice guys" don't grasp. People generally seek out and end up with those who share their worldview.
Yeah point! Ok for the guy mentioned in the quote at the bottom (who met her when she had a boyfriend at uni) and now she becomes single. Given they inevitably became friends cos they're both nice people, how would she perceive him and what can he do? Would he be boyfriend material? Thoughts?
I think it could happen, yes. Nice guys and nice girls fall in love and have nice relationships. The girls with bad boys have a bad streak themselves.
Ok that's good! But how would he have to act/what should he do in order for him to be perceived as boyfriend material or for her to show she likes him? I mean should he just continue to act as normal?
Well, he should let her know that he's interested in her. But otherwise be himself. "Getting" a chick makes you less happy than actually being with someone who likes you for who you are.
How do you convey you like her? I don't think just saying it would be right right? I have heard women prefer implication and romance lol?
I think asking her out on a date is your best bet. Esoecially of you already know her.
Ok but do women respond positively to men like that who they have known for a while? How do u even ask?
Like I said, it depends on the woman. Unfortunately, there is no "cheat code" to magically win her over... Basically, she needs to like your personality and find you attractive. It's better to find out than to waste a lot of time, though. Just say "Hey, I think you're really cool and pretty cute too. Want to grab dinner/coffee/drinks?"
Lol true on the magic words/code. I mean I'm pretty sure she likes the personality. She seemed to admire me a lot at uni. What does it mean if she introduced me to her bf/others as 'the guy she mentioned' (this was sometimes back). As for telling her she is great, how do you phrase it, don't girls prefer implied flirting than downright suggestive stuff? And finally, in terms of date/meet ups, we have met up before since we know each other, so how do you make it clear. And indeed how do you know about attraction from her side?
Thoughts? And also points 1-8?
Ok can u help me on this question www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2229447-can-you-match-who-a-sweet-woman-would-do-these-things-with-explain
haha this is all so true but the thing you're neglecting is why.
i know i am a reflection of how im treated. when a guy is cute and in your face "the lover" type and doesn't act or show like he needs you something i don't admit inside me wants to MAKE him need me. so i get crazy sexual.
where as with "the boyfriend" type, if i'm treated kindly, i treat him kindly. it's not that i'm less sexual, i'm just not using my body to try to win his heart. he gets the side of me that treats him with respect.
i would treat my "lover" like disposable and rudely. i just want him to know he can't have me once i've made him need me.
the "boyfriend" can cum on my face and call me a dirty slut but usually this type of guy doesn't do those things naturally so its weird like don't stop mid way to ask if you can cum on me or ask if you can call me a dirty name... just do it.
Ok but are u saying you'd be sexual around the not as sweet guy? Would you actually be more wild with him? Or would you be sexual and flirty with the nice guy (see guy 1) the guy mentioned in the quote who you became friends with when you had a boyfriend and now you're single? What is that guy meant to do if he likes you since you may noit behave sexy or flirty round him?
And can he act dirty or talk dirty to you?
So points 1-8? Thoughts?
So how does the genuinely decent guy friend who you like be sexual/flirty toward you then (let's say you just became single or have been for 6 months)?
The attractive guy friend - someone funny, exciting and hot. The douche guy friend - objectifies women, less good looking, not sweet Yet she would probably act innocent to the first guy even though she likes him more and be sexual/slutty pose like a cheerleader round the 2nd guy ?
Sounds like someone is still salty from rejection. You may think he's an asshole and that she's stupid for choosing him over you ( the "nice guy").
All I see written here is a sore loser. Your ego that can't take the fact that she chose him over YOU. You don't know if said asshole has a deeper side to him. You don't know if he's complex or what other things he does that drives her crazy. You only judge what you see superficially.
I can say right now, that you are not as great as you think you are. You are not a "perfect catch" and you are not entitled to her love or affection simply because you are "nice"
You don't always get who you want. Get over it. The adult thing to do is move on.
Lol based on what. For guy 1 and guy 2 above how would a woman react for each point 1-8?
Typical ad hominem. And then no response sigh. Pls re read and see points 1-8.
Check points 1-8 also
Nope you didn't read it. A lot of genuinely nice guys though get taken for granted by women. I know as most women saw me as a really sweet guy and often had deep convo's and acted cute around me. They often posed more suggestively around guys they thought of less (as in they thought they were less good guys). Then suddenly when it came to acting like a "player" by going to a sorority to help out my friend (who was the pledge master), I had some of the same girls and totally new ones who didn't know me basically acting slutty around me.
The Lover: Usually a stunner (assuming she's one herself)
The BF: Usually a plump fatass, with a "nice" personality.
So why would she be with the boyfriend instead of the lover then?
@Trotters Because us women are pathetic like that. We swoon over a fatman who spews kind words, COMPLETELY ignoring that fact that if he were the stunner, and we were the ugly ones, he'd shit in our faces. It's just how we are. :)
its a smart play... thats what i tell people to do...
@Tdieseler Explain
So thoughts on points 1-8?
The attractive guy friend - someone funny, exciting and hot. The douche guy friend - objectifies women, less good looking, not sweet Yet she would probably act innocent to the first guy even though she likes him more and be sexual/slutty pose like a cheerleader round the 2nd guy