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This Mytake is as a result of a recent question I posted in response to a reply I saw on a post where a male user told a female user if she jogs in leggings he wouldn't be shocked to hear she was the next jogger to be raped and murdered...
Why Do People Still Insist On Blaming Rape On The Way A Woman Dresses?
And some of the replies, the myths and misinformation people have about rape and sexual assault..
Which not only impacts victims and survivors of abuse, it also impacts what young people believe.... The reply that disturbed me the most was from a17 year old Female that said:
"what they wear depends if they want to get raped its their problem and wear decent clothes if you don't want to get raped"..
Even though the person in this video was in fact also 17 when she was raped wearing joggers and a jacket
We need to better educate people about the truth about sexual violence, how can people even think you're helping people protect themselves from being a victim if you're using myths and not true facts....
All myths and facts used in this take were from the following site:
https://www.ourresilience.org/what-you-need-to-know/myths-and-facts/
*Myth: Sexual assault is an act of lust and passion that can’t be controlled.
*Fact: Sexual assault is about power and control and is not motivated by sexual gratification
We need to educate that it's about power and control, and what you wear has less to do with becoming a victim of rape. Perpetrators are more likely to select victims they perceive as more passive or weak
The next two myths and facts further show that a lot of times perpetrators are more likely to go after more weak victims than scantily clad females:
*Myth: People with disabilities are at low risk for sexual assault.
*Fact: People with disabilities are victims of sexual assault twice as much as people without disabilities.
*Myth: If a parent teaches a child to stay away from strangers they won’t get raped.
*Fact: 60% of child sexual abuse cases are perpetrated by someone the child knows outside the family, and 30% are assaulted by family
*Myth: Wearing revealing clothing, behaving provocatively, or drinking a lot means the victim was “asking for it”.
*Fact: The perpetrator selects the victim- the victim’s behavior or clothing choices do not mean that they are consenting to sexual activity
As previously stated, not all victims of sexual violence are scantily clad drunk women walking alone down dark alleys 🙄
*Myth: Sexual assaults most often occur in public or outdoors.
*Fact: 55% of rape or sexual assault victimizations occur at or near the victim’s home, and 12% occur at or near the home of a friend, relative, or acquaintance
This myth I feel is important because some men on here think men's rape is not talked about enough or people care less if a man is raped.
And if you watched the above video, you would see that men's clothing was part of the rape victims display
Myth: Men are not victims of sexual violence.
Fact: 1.5% of all men have been raped and 47% of bisexual men have experienced some form of unwanted sexual contact in their lifetime.
No rape is less important than the next whether it's a man, woman, child, elderly or disabled... Noone should have to go through rape and noone should get blamed by their gender, way of dress, sexual orientation...
The next myth is because people need to know that I'm not saying some sexual violence can't be prevented, it's the way people go about it... Teach real facts, not myths, educate yourself before trying to tell others how best to protect themselves....
* Myth: There is nothing we can do to prevent sexual violence.
*Fact: There are many ways you can help prevent sexual violence including intervening as a bystander to protect someone who may be at risk.
There are a few more myths and facts you can read from the above link, but I'm going to close with this last one because there's so much of this on this site and others
*Myth: A lot of victims lie about being raped or give false reports.
Fact: Only 2-8% of rapes are falsely reported, the same percentage as for other felonies
If you take anything away from this take I hope it's that 1-just because it's the internet, it's not okay to spread false information as fact...2-Be more mindful of who may be reading what you say, it may be a victim of sexual violence, it may be an impressionable young male or female being influenced by falsehoods they see on online forums... And lastly, this take or the topic of sexual violence is not about feminists, it's about a crime that shouldn't happen, but it does, so people not only need to know how to protect themselves, they need REAL truth..... Don't use gender divide or issues with feminists to blame or shame any victims of sexual violence whether it be a boy/ Man, girl/woman, elderly, disabled or Gay/lesbian/bi-sexual/transgender...
Nobody asks for or deserves sexual violence.....
As always, thanks for reading 💜
"Brainsbeforebeauty"😘
What Girls & Guys Said
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I agree with everything said
Thank you!! I'm just tired of people spouting falsehoods as facts because some people are believing them, and it can actually cause harm to those that do
Thank you for this information, it's really helpful in understanding my boyfriend.
He was raped when he was younger (by a woman), and when older, falsely accused (after 18 months of course battles the accuser finally admitted she made it up).
A lot of this will help him in his recovery I think.
Yeah... and I’d throw in a proposition that children having learned sexual education earlier in life would grow up not to rape.
Right! And if I may add, children or people that have suffered sexual abuse are less likely to be offenders themselves, not more.. cuz I've seen that bs excuse made for sexual offenders... But anyone that's REALLY been through that would NEVER subject someone else to that
Ehh... males who have been raped as children go on to rape. I don’t know stats, but it’s a thing...
Well that's just sick and twisted if that's true
I’m sure kids who’ve been treated grow up fine. But apparently in low income neighborhoods it happens a lot. And it’s a sick cycle of abuse.
And sad
I was raped as a child. I have never raped anyone.
@SkipPerk I’m sorry. And I’m glad you haven’t. Doesn’t abuse doesn’t beget abuse.
I try to feel what it would be to be a rapist, and I can’t.
How could any person get in that frame of mind.
I taught myself at an early age to pay attention to what girls do, say, and think.
I learned how to seduce. The quickest way to get in a girls pantie is through her head.
Its a complex dynamic for sure. I don't believe in she asked for it. Stranger danger is not the only thing to avoid you are right most people know their rapists as aquaintence or sadly family members. Its about power. They can't get it like most so they take it.
Exactly!! Sad but true
"Myth: Sexual assault is an act of lust and passion that can’t be controlled.
*Fact: Sexual assault is about power and control and is not motivated by sexual gratification"
How is this known tho? I'm genuinely asking because I find this hard to believe.
Wouldn't it be the same way they analyze what makes people commit murder or how they test and analyze any behavior traits or patterns. Or how they diagnose mental illness?
I don't know. That's what I'm asking lol. I find it hard to believe that sexual gratification doesn't play a part.
Because you're thinking like a man. Not like a rapist would think.
I'm sorry to say this, but this is a usual rape propaganda put out by feminists to make it seem like things are a lot worse than they actually are. Things are bad enough as they are without feminists throwing their two cents worth in. Just two give you a little insight regarding the rape control thing versus sexual portion of this, there was a town in the eastern part of the United States that accidentally voted in a way that made prostitution legal. They didn't really mean to do that but when they did do that change things a lot for a short time. the number of reported forcible rapes as compared to the prior year went down about 75% and The Business of prostitutes who are now legal went way up. In other words if you make prostitution available and you make it legal the chances of people getting raped are a lot lower. This suggests that rape really has a lot to do with unmet sexual needs particularly among men. I realize this contradicts the feminists but that's the way it is based on this data. One could eliminate a lot of rapes simply by legalizing prostitution but of course feminists oppose this.
Okay rape is not about feminists and I'm not a feminist... What does makes being raped have to do with feminists... You who says you're in the mental health field of all people should get that rapists and criminals don't always think rationally like normal people... But to admit that, lessens the bias you have against women and one less thing to blame women for our paint all women as liars...
Oh and also the first myth and fact this was the source which if you'd a chicken the link you'd a saw Groth, A., Burgess, W., & Holmstrom, L. Rape: Power, anger, and sexuality. American Journal of Psychiatry, 134(11), 1239-43. Pubmed. gov So then is all Psychiatry feminist propaganda then 🤔 so you're refuting the findings from your own profession 🤔
I'm aware of that article. I don't have to agree with it.
Let's agree to disagree about this, ok? I don't want to fight with you.
But you can't disagree without accusing people of things? I'm not s feminist. I'm sick of you men on here thinking anytime a female disagrees on here with a make is okay to falsely label her something she's not... Don't call me things I'm not, this take is not feminist propaganda, you can say that all you want, don't make it any more true! This covered rape of ALL victims, men women and children, so again 🤷🏼♀️ I'm not going to keep putting up with bs insults anytime someone disagrees... You should of started with the agree to disagree. That would of been more respectful.🤷🏼♀️
I wasn't accusing you personally of anything and I'm sorry if you took it that way. I know you're not a feminist we've talked too much for me to believe that. I simply was saying that I've heard all of the statistics you quoted before and they've usually come from feminists. Let's let this one just go okay?
You say let it go as still making false statements though, these statistics and percentages came from phycologists, The US Department of Justice and The National Child Traumatic Stress Network You are bringing your issues with feminists to a post that had nothing to do with feminists... But don't you see that's the whole issue and why takes like this pop up. All people think about these days is their own hatred, bias and agendas in trying to prove the other gender wrong or bad by any means including spreading false information, not even caring what affect that can have on real victims or if it helps real criminals get away with crimes.. I'm sorry if you have an issue with women I'm sorry if you have an Issue with feminists. I don't like when feminists take things to the extreme and paint all men as bad or rapists. But to say real facts and statistics is just feminist propaganda is where the line gets crossed.
I think there are serious questions regarding some of those statistics. They often get quoted just as you've done here, but hardly anybody looks at the foundations for them. I think the foundations for some of them are very shaky at best
I think I should be able to disagree with the data you've posted without you taking it personally. My critique of it which was very mild actually was not meant to be personal in any way and I hope you understand that. As I said before I don't want to fight about this. You have your point of view which are completely entitled to and I have my point of view which I'm also entitled to. My comments about feminists were perhaps poorly stated but my experience in the past has been that the people that tend to distort statistics are in fact feminists. That doesn't mean you're one of them.
You thinking that don't make it fact. So you know more than the people rape gets reported to. The people that work with victims of crime. The police, the courts? Just because facts go against what you WANT to believe doesn't give you the right to say they're false. Are there some inaccuracies, of course, because not all crimes get reported. Wonder why, when people are so busy blaming victims, it makes people less likely to report a crime. What message do you think a young girl reading all the bs people post online about how all women lie about Rape, or she shouldn't of dressed that way, she shouldn't of been drinking, she got was she deserved for not being careful will get? That if she gets raped, people will say she is lying or she deserved it. Or the young boy that gets raped, when people say men can't get raped, or being raped by a guy makes you gay, will he be afraid to report it? I'm sorry but again, you bring in the profession you say you are, I'd think you if all people would understand that. Would care about the mental health of real victims more than your hatred of women or feminists.
I'm finding it difficult to reason with you. You are accusing me of things that are simply n. ot true. I don't hate women. I will admit to disliking feminists but that is because of the way they treat men, and I am a man. I am not blaming victims for anything. I think that statistics sometimes get distorted and exaggerated for political reasons. I am not BLAMING YOU FOR ANYTHING. What will it take to make peace with you?
Did I say you were blaming me for anything? But you did bring up feminist right away which I still fail to get how this is a gender thing.. Rape don't just happen to women, rape happens to men as well this was about any rape or sexual violence that happens to anyone not just women... And I didn't "accuse" you of anything, I said IF you do, but I don't just say that because of this thread, but because of the negative things you've said about women on other posts not just this one... But don't you see, that when you lump all women as the same, you're doing the same thing to women that feminists do to men, men saying all women lie, all women this or all women that is just as sexist as when feminists do that to men... And just because one does it, doesn't make it okay for the other to. Just because some men bash all women, I don't resort to bashing all men, because it would be wrong, untrue, and not right to ask the great men out there... And I have no issue with you personally, nor did I make it that way... I've said nothing hateful, derogatory to you... I have respectfully argued my point.. And I did agree the statistics can't always be factual, but again if people would stop trying to make people feel shame or responsible for what happens to them, maybe more people would report sick crimes and the statistics would be more factual... But I still out more stock in statistics then claims on the internet without any proof, you know there's catfish and people that lie all the time in the internet right 🤔
My feelings regarding women are my own and don't extend to others. I will admit that I am not always happy about the way some women behave, and if you wish, I will be more than willing to expound on the origins of that in private, but not publicly. That said, I will tell you publicly that I completely lost my daughter due to my ex being mentally ill, and a biased, openly feminist Judge who did everything she could to make sure I would never see my child again, without any reason that I am aware of. I couldn't appeal her ruling because I would have needed $ 50,000 to do that and didn't have it. Between the Judge and my ex, I had no chance nor did my daughter. You cannot reasonably expect that this experience would have no effect on me.
Yeah, there are a lots of cases where infants and very old people were raped. So I don't really believe that clothing affects.
And most of the people in these groups are not capable of giving consent
Exactly
And, from what I've heard, economics also play a role. People from poor places are more vulnerable to such attacks
There definitely could be truth there
Thanks for the knowledge and the take is a must read.
Thanks 🙂
I told you anything clothing, behaviour, texting, talking can be used to get away with rape they don't care about women being raped most never have any kind of punishment at all wake up please
This is more to clear up the myths about when where how and why rape happens. And if it helps even one person to better protect themselves, then 🤷🏼♀️ And I'm wide awake, but thank you
Thank you so much for writing things. Most cases of sexual abuse happens in so called trust worthy places. It can happen in school, churches, at home. And the most vulnerable fall victims. If the woman is wearing skimpy and has a gun in her hand no one would come close to her
Thanks for reading
I just can't believe a 17 year old girl said that. I am sure she also think that reason why babies get raped is cause their mom dressed their baby in just a slutty diaper. I can understand if this comes from a guy🤦♀️
This was a really nice take. Valid points. Although i don't think many people here would take this into account cause most here are catfishes or pervs
Thanks! and yeah, if it really was a 17 year old female, there's so many fake accounts on here, then it's truly messed up... And yeah some guys got "triggered" by the false allegations myth/fact because it doesn't support the false claims they make on here all the time
Ofc that's expected. I mean when a woman talks about rape, they start with their statistics and try to prove it's men who are the actual victims due to some rape allegations and they say that one reason is what makes a woman's life is easy. Misogynists probably
Right! Even though it's not just women that get raped. Makes no sense, men who say people don't talk about makes who get raped, will be there same ones to just bring up women or false allegations. Yet there's boys and men that get raped too, as well as disabled and elderly, yet they rarely get mentioned either 🤷🏼♀️