Which of these is worse, or are they both the same?

[worldscolide]

This question was inspired by an anon on this site who I feel incredibly bad for.

Situation 1... you're a guy, you're having sex with a girl, and are about to cum so you try to pull out, but she wraps her legs around you forcing you to stay inside as you cum.. The kicker is, she's not on birth control, you both know this, and that is why you're trying to pull out.

Situation 2... You're a girl, you're having sex, you're not on birth control, you tell him not to cum inside for that reason, he doesn't obey your request and cums inside anyway..


Which of these is worse?

[hellionthesagereborn]

The first one is worse. Now technically I think both are equally bad, the difference is that the guy has absolutely zero recourse. A woman can take a morning after pill, she can get an abortion, she can keep the child and force him to pay to support it for 18 years. The only thing he can do is wait until she decides what she will do i. e. if he doesn't want the kid and she does, he has to pay her child support. If she decides to go to the police because he impregnated her, he will likely be treated as a rapist, but if he goes to the police he will be laughed at and then forced to pay for child support and potentially alimony (depending on where he is. Men who have never been married have been forced to pay alimony so who knows what will happen).

So the first one is worse because their are no other options, she effectively rapes him and the world punishes him, he effectively rapes her and the world punishes him, but either way he will be punished regardless of what he does.

[MCheetah]

They're both bad. I wouldn't say it's "sexual assault" as you're *already* having consensual sex, but it's still a sh*tty thing to do, regardless.

Both people are dumbasses though, because you shouldn't be sticking your dick in anything, or taking dick, if you're not prepared in advance. If you don't want a baby, use birth control. It's that simple. The "pull out method" has always been f*cking stupid, anyway. As if pre-ejaculate can't get a girl pregnant.

[MCheetah]

Thanks for the MHO.

[AmandaYVR]

I voted C, equally wrong.
And wth is wrong with some people.
This is probably one of the reasons we have so many stupid people walking around, and we shake our heads at them, wondering how they survive, and sometimes thrive.
My husband said to me a few days ago... there's this game we play, which I started decades ago... 'On my/your tombstone, it should say...' That day it was 'Put a rubber on it.' Cause I am sick of stupid people being reckless about fertility and baby-making.
I even know of examples in my more distant family circle, of this. None of them should have had kids under those circumstances.
There's little excuse for ignorance, especially in today's day and age, with almost the entire globe having a mini computer in their pocket.

[TrueConfection]

I'm not rational. I voted A for the following reasons;
1. He's at her mercy to tell him if she gets pregnant and she decides when he will be privliged to have that information.
2. It's her choice if she carries the baby to term.
3. She will automatically have physical custody of the baby.

It's best for everyone to take responsibility for themselves and use birth control if they aren't ready to start a family together.

[worldscolide]

I had not thought of those elements. Thanks for your comment.

[TrueConfection]

You're welcome!

[worldscolide]

I asked this because on the other question most of the girls commented that what she did was not sexual assault of any kind and when asked if the roles were reversed how they feel they said it would be rape if the roles were reversed.

[TrueConfection]

I know this won't be a popular opinion, but I don't see either scenario as sexual assault. It's a stupid form of "birth control" and a woman can easily get pregnant with the pull-out method. To me, both parties have already consented to the risk of pregnancy by having unprotected sex. I would feel different about it if she lied and claimed to be using birth control.

[worldscolide]

Maybe. I dunno, I do feel like if either party withdraw consent like that though the action must stop or it's assault.

[TrueConfection]

I can definitely see that point of view.

[TrueConfection]

Thank you for the MHO ❤

[PrettyPriya]

They are the same as it was verbally spoken to “not cum”. Doesn’t matter what gender said it. Respect the wishes of your partner.

[DizzyDesii]

I've been the girl in situation 1, it was wrong but he shouldn't have lied “in the moment” about being ready to become a dad. Anyways, im glad i didn't end up pregnant by him. We were toxic for eachother

[DizzyDesii]

by the way i didn't allow him to cum in me. I wanted it so i wrapped my legs around him. But he said no and pulled out. Then while his dick is still dripping cum, he shoved his dick inside. He idiot goes “it should be safe because my cum hit the air so you can't get pregnant” 💀🤦‍♀️

[loves2learn]

I am glad you didn’t procreate with him either. 😂

[DizzyDesii]

@loves2learn yea im sure i looked like the villain and probably am. But he was dumb as hell for thinking cum hitting the air for 5 secs made it less likely to impregnate me. He was a virgin after all until that day. But he basically lied the whole relationship saying he was ready but then changed his mind. Dumb to change your mind when you say “oh im bout to cum? Want me to cum in you.” And im like “okay” then he's like “wait no i dont think im ready.” Bastard lmao

[loves2learn]

I would have whiplash from all those quick decisions. 😂

[DizzyDesii]

@loves2learn he was sooo indecisive. I need someone who knows ehat they want cause i surely know what i want

[loves2learn]

@dizzydesii nooo way! I am very decisive. Indecisiveness does not work for me.

[DizzyDesii]

@loves2learn same. Ultimate deal breaker

[loves2learn]

Both are wrong! Both qualify as non consensual!

[KimmyB]

Having experienced situation 2 first hand it’s incredibly scary. But that being said.. I think either way it’s not right if it’s unwanted by either the guy or girl…. Just my opinion! :o)

[SnakeBoop]

I mean. Option 3.
But more fool on anyone engaging in sex without birth control or protection. Men need to take responsibility over their reproduction too. No want babies, take condoms and wrap up. same as women should either have female condoms or be on birth control if they wanna be sexually active.

[midnightmoon05]

If they are both in a serious relationship.. good.
if not... both situations bad... hope they learn their lessons.

get to know that person before sex happens.

[DonkeyDan]

Yes both are equally wrong but it amazes me that people still rely on the pull out method for contraception.

[Mir95]

I voted option 3 but I'm not a 100 percent on classifying it as sexual assault.

[LemiaOfChampions]

I would think the second one because she has her reasons for you not cumming in her

[worldscolide]

So her forcing you to cum inside, which is assault, is not as bad? You do understand that I'd she gets pregnant he is on the hook for life.

[exitseven]

This would never happen to me.

[Browneye57]

What transcends them both is the intentions by either or both parties for the inevitable pregnancy. Are you going to raise the child yourself? Give it up for adoption? Or kill it?

Or put another way, just get BC and fuck your brains out.

[Starwitch23]

Both are sexual assault.

[dray995]

They’re the same but that wouldn’t actually be classified as sexual assault because the sex was consensual. Adding on other things doesn’t change that.

[dray995]

Changed my mind. Option A because they consented and it’s up to her if she wants to get pregnant. That was always something to consider before having sex. That sex can lead to pregnancy.

[dray995]

Clarifying: Consented to sex, not consented to having unprotected sex and risking getting pregnant. At worst, one of them broke the conditions but that still doesn’t qualify as rape or anything like that because the sex itself was consensual.

[dray995]

You can’t just decide to have sex and then get upset about the potential consequences for your actions just because you didn’t plan ahead or talk about them beforehand.

[snackthatsmilesback]

Sword swallowing can lead to internal bleeding and death, and the swallower consents to that risk. But that doesn't mean the dick who snuck up and clapped behind their head didn't commit murder.

[dray995]

I don’t know what kind of comparison you’re trying to make. Consent to sex means consent to the consequences of it. That’s not the same as committing violence against someone. What are you going on about?

[snackthatsmilesback]

Consent to doing something dangerous isn't consent for someone to scare you while you're doing it. That greatly increases the risk of injury. Consent to *pull-out sex is not consent to be comed inside of/come inside them. That greatly increases the risk of pregnancy.

[dray995]

That’s the risk involved in sex. Get over it.

[snackthatsmilesback]

So where did the analogy not line up? Why would the one be assault and the other wouldn't be?

[dray995]

I’m saying neither should be.

[dray995]

I don’t know what you’re still confused about.

[dray995]

Consent to sex means the possibility of pregnancy. That’s not an extra feature or something new that just came up. It has always been that way.

[snackthatsmilesback]

Ok well I can't argue with that lol. Have a nice day

[snackthatsmilesback]

Um that's not the part that confused me.

[Snakeyes7]

Both are virtually the same actions. Using gender as a get out of jail free card is an admission that you know that the action was wrong.

[888theGreat]

#2 and then he won't pay for the baby