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For the record, I know there are plenty of people who are okay with it, but there are others who really hate this, so I finally decided to say something about it, and I’m gonna try to be pretty level-headed here and not use insults but still tell it like it is. I really didn’t realize hating relationships between black men and white women was such a big thing until I started seeing it more, and I even got hated myself for talking about it here last year. While there are some who say it doesn’t matter to them, there are others who are boldly honest and bitter about why they hate it.
Black people like to date outside their race...
First off, it’s a pretty common thing in the black community these days for a lot of us to prefer dating outside our race. Even more black women. And sometimes even our parents encourage us to. I’m cool with white women and like dating interracially, though most of the women I’ve gone after have been Latinas.
I used to be the type who didn’t want to date my own because of the ghetto/loudmouth stereotypes, but that’s not really a thing for me much anymore. I feel more of a friends/family relationship with black women than feeling romantic about them, and I’ve met plenty of black women who tell me they only like white guys or “Spanish boys.” It doesn’t bother me. I’m not offended if our women don’t date us, because both us black men and women know how we feel. But it does offend me when people of other races are strongly against their own dating black and want to make up their minds without really getting to know us.
Denial...
I am amazed at the people on GaG - mostly males - who’ve tried to convince me that relationships between white women and black men is a rare thing. These people either aren’t getting out enough, or where they live is far more white than black, or they need to pretend this is the case to feel better about it. Relationships between black males and white females is a pretty common thing in America, going on for centuries, regardless of whether you see it around you or not. Common enough that you find boatloads of stuff about it on Google and YouTube, and lots of pics of black men-white women couples. The proof is even in America’s children. Probably the majority of our country’s biracial kids are half black children who come from those relationships.
Even many of Hollywood’s half black actors, actresses, and singers come from the same thing. Wentworth Miller, Mariah Carey, Haley Barry, Vin Diesel, Zendaya, and others. All of which have white mothers and black fathers. It’s even speculated now that Kim Kardashian may actually be the daughter of O.J. Simpson like she always wondered.
White women who DON’T date black men…
As a black man I’m aware of the white women who don’t like or want to date us. Believe me, we have experience meeting those types as well. They think most black men are thuggy, streetsy, violent, drug-dealing, and uneducated, and therefore have stereotyped us as unfit to date.
Usually for me I can look at a white woman and tell by the look on her face, the tone in her voice when she talks to you, little or no eye contact, and her body language that she’s not into black men and doesn’t want them talking to her; even if they don’t want you to know that, though other times they’re not entirely trying to hide it either. You can just figure it out, especially if you watch from a distance and observe how different she behaves with non-black men.
Some of them are completely fine with black women though, and have black female friends, but just dislike black men. They have one-sided bigotry. Dating sites is also where you find these women a lot, who are looking for specific perfect-looking ‘toned and athletic’ white males with celebrity looks or status. And the ironic thing is that often those women are overweight or not particularly attractive themselves, and they’re on these sites because obviously not a lot of white guys want them back in real life either.
However, I have met and tried to date some white women online before who did admit they don’t like dating black men sincerely because of a bad experience but that I “seemed different” though things never really went anywhere. I can maybe understand their apprehension after having already been with black men, but others who already make up their minds without never having really known us are still pretty much racist.
“It’s just my preference”...
If you don’t want black men, you don’t want them, but I must say it’s curious to me when white women who don’t like us try to defend it as the tired, overused “preference” thing, yet think other white women who have a preference for us are "dating low,” being stupid, or just being trendy. They want you to respect their “preference” is that they’re not into us, but think negatively about women who are.
Not to mention, they - along with some white guys - want to call it a “race fetish”(the fashionable term nowadays) but they don’t see it as a race fetish if they only like Hispanic guys, Asian, or even their own white men! Even more, some of them will find it annoying if black men like them because they’re white, yet don’t find it annoying when their own men like them because they’re white, or when Asian and Hispanic guys do either for that matter. And probably the worst - which I still can’t get my head around - is the white women who don’t want black men, yet like dating white and Hispanic guys who talk black and try to dress and act hood, hip, and badass. So you don’t like that in black men - who authored that style - but think it’s cool in non-black men. Makes perfect sense.
So honestly, I don’t have a lot of respect for those kinds of white women with all their defense of their “preference.” But regardless, as black men we still move on, and know there are still enough other women who have relationships with us and aren’t going to stop either, especially in these times.
Unfair hatred towards white women…
You have both situations where black men can be looked down on by their own people - usually women - for being in relationships with white women, and white women who are looked down on by their people as well for being with black. The latter is something I’m learning about more and more these days. I know plenty of white families have accepted a woman’s black boyfriend/husband just fine, but there are still situations where some do not, and others where she would want to date a black man but knows her family wouldn’t like it, or is afraid of her ex knowing too.
I’ve been surprised to learn that there really are white men who actually hate white women for dating or sleeping with black men, thinking they now have “diseases” or are trash for being with us, which is supposed to be an insult to not only her but a black man’s character or integrity too. It’s also not fair to view white women as “easy” for sleeping with black men either. Even violence has erupted from some white men for this. I remember a story on the news some time ago about a white man who went on a killing spree because he was so sick of white women going with black men, and killed himself.
It’s for all these reasons that there are still some white women who are not as confident as others in being open about their interest in black men, sometimes even keeping their relationships a secret from their families. I’ve heard it said from some that more white women than we actually realize are attracted to black men and would be in relationships with them but do not feel free to because of some white families’ and white men’s racial distaste for that, even now in the 21st century.
Sex…
It is true that there remains to be a curiosity between some black men and white women about having sex with each other, and those who’ve already had it either love or hate the experience. I’m aware of white women who did it and didn’t want to “go black” again and found it uncomfortable or not as good as they thought, but there are still enough of them who are into it. And, yes, liking ‘big, black cock’ is a common thing, and I don’t really know what to say about it. Sometimes it offends me and other times it doesn’t, depending on the circumstances. Though I don’t really like how American and European women fly to the Caribbean just to sleep with black island men on summer vacation. It’s a sex trade that’s no better than businessmen going to Asia to sleep with Oriental women.
I have mixed feelings. I’ve met white girls online who didn’t want to talk anymore and had their fantasies crushed once they found out I was black, and I’ve also met others who got excited and asked for a picture. Sometimes it has maybe alarmed me a little, and other times I’m alright with it. A few actually wanted dick picks and I was not comfortable with that. Some have even beat around the bush about looking for a black guy to invite into their bedroom with them and their boyfriend/husband which I really am not comfortable with lol. I’ve even had husbands show up in my inbox on a couple sites in the past saying stuff like, “My wife would love you,” or “My wife has told me she’s always wanted to fuck a black man, would you be interested?” Not cool with that, lol.
I personally do find intimacy between black men and white women to be very sexy, especially blowjobs and plain missionary. So I can’t really scold it as objectification. It is what it is. And honestly? If the two people are sexually attracted to each other for these reasons, I don’t have a problem with it. If white guys can be sexually attracted to Asian girls, and if white and Asian girls can only like white men because they are sexually attracted to them, why is it always a problem because there are white women who are aroused by black men and vice versa? Can’t that be their “preference” too?
White women and black men aren’t going to stop liking each other...
And that’s just the fact of it. Regardless of what other white people might think about it - and even some blacks - it’s not going to change. And it doesn’t have to or need to. There’s far too much interracialism in America now anyway for that to ever stop. Hell, I don’t like the fact that a LOT of Asian women are only interested in white guys, but I can’t change that, and I honestly don’t care enough to try to slander them or have racial hatred towards them for it.
Some black women say they catch hell too for being with white men, which is true to an extent, but not the way white women and black men catch it. Black women aren't getting those really awful, ugly words that they'll give white guys AIDS for sleeping them, or that they're apes or rapists. Black women aren't being demonized for liking white guys, whereas black men can be accused of "putting white women on a pedestal" for liking them - by both black people and even some white women. And a white woman will still sleep with a white man who's had sex with black women, whereas there are white men who will reject a white woman for having slept with black men.
So while relationships between black men and white women can be hotly stylized, they can be hated just as much.
No doubt, even for me as a black man there are things I don’t always like about black man-white woman relationships, like how some black men only want to date the really overweight white girls, and the white women who want to talk black just because they have a black man or are only interested in dating black men if they’re thuggy and badass. But those don’t make up all hot chocolate with marshmallow relationships. What these men and women do and how they like each other is between them. Even if they’re only liking each other for the sex or objectifying each other, these two people are happy with that, and it’s none of our damn business. And none of it is going to change just because there are people out there who don’t like it or feel jealous that their own race is going after the other.
Simply...accept it.
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What Girls & Guys Said
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If someone wants to date someone of another race, then fine go ahead. I have nothing against it and you should someone that makes you happy. Soon as they have a kid or mix race I find it as a disgrace. I just believe we were never meant to mix race or mix our cultures. Will I harass or attack that couple, or child because of it? No, because that's childish.
It's not that I don't date black men, I dated before. And I don't have thug stereotype if you know where to look for educated men. You can find those drug dealing thug types among whites, in short white trash.
My problem is that whenever I dated black men (two of them 3 months and 6 months), I experienced racism from his friends. Especially his female friends. Black women are somewhat (or the ones I had seen) hateful towards white women dating black men. I had been called names and a lot of shitty things happened and I really don't wanna have the same experience again.
Also, my parents are both white, but they are from a community where there is basically no black person. (I am not American). So i also consider now if i get serious with a black men, how my parents would react. It's not necessarily living my life according to their standards or expectations but it is still kind of trying to find an optimal point to please them as well.
I understand all of your concerns. I noted the white parent problem too.
Mine is not really a racist white parent problem. It's actually not a problem and they didn't even say a single thing about me possibly dating and marrying an African American man. In fact probably they dont give a fuck as long as i am happy. but i feel awkward. Especially at this age, i am done with education, and having a stable financial life. So i am ready to settle down. I am kind of reconsidering my options when a black guy wants to date me. Mind me I have always black admirers somehow. I am not fat by the way at all. xD. Like 5'3 midget with 115 pounds is normal lol :P But my most important concern is other black people giving hell to white women. Before I came to the states permanently, I always thought as an immigrant the racism i experience would be best empathized and understood by blacks. But i have suffered the worst racism from black people unfortunately; thou one of my two best friends is black. So I am reconsidering like multiple times before i agree to go out with a black man
If you're from another country that's probably why black people here have disliked you being with black guys. It's bad enough when my race gives white American women hell, but when you're white and foreign they REALLY give you hell. They think a black man is selling out to an extreme. If you're foreign that's probably why black men like you. I myself will choose a foreign white woman over an American, and I have known and been attracted to Russian women, Balkan, white British and French, Romanian, and Slavic. They do tend to be pretty interesting, sexy women. I would just say: don't let your experiences prevent you from being with black. Not all black families and friends of a black man are like the ones you knew. Mine aren't.
You don't gotta reconsider nothin.. Just get a guy without "Black" people who won't give you nothin.. It's not hard.. There's plenty out there..
@JDavid25 My point exactly.
Don't you think you are being unfair though? if you like black men, go for it. I mean, what's the point of dating a white man or hispanic man or Asian man if you do it only because you won't get hell from other people? You would lose his time and yours too. Not to mention the way he will feel when he finds out the truth. If you like black men or you prefer black men, just go for it and stop thinkin about the society is saying. As a white man though... I gonna say. If my girlfriend was like you and I found out she prefered black men but dated/married me because she was afraid of not getting hell from other people.. I'd break up with her in a blink of an eye. That's not cool, man...
Trust. Blacks that date white women are under great scrutiny as well from their own community. I remember, years ago, I was with my girlfriend at the time (white) and me and some friends of hers and mine were coming from a Reggae club to catch the train. All of a sudden, from a group of black women I heard, "I'm a n*gger, your a n*gger, he's a n*gger, she's a n*gger, wouldn't you like to be a n*gger too?", in that Dr. Pepper jingle. I knew exactly what they were inferring. My girlfriend and her friends didn't have a clue. I later explained that because I'm with you, they are inferring I'm not as black as they are. I still see things like this even to this day. But, what does it really mean to be black or white or Asian or Hispanic or what have you? Like does your skin define who you are inside? Does your culture define who you are inside? Also, if you don't want racism, why show it yourself?
@lyannamormont never let outside pressure influence who you love and want to be with. They aren't in your relationship, they don't have any clue as to the people you are or how he shows you he cares or how you show how much you appreciate him. It's shows more strength in the relationship if you give two shits as to perceptions people have and you still love your man and stand by him. Lord knows us blacks need those types of women in our lives, sorry to say. And, usually the white women that are attracted to and get with black men and stay with them are the ones that are worth holding on to, since they are strong enough mentally to ignore the bullshit we face daily, and show so much care for us in spite of the negativity. That is a good woman, nevermind whatever cultural background she comes from.
Bottom line... people ought to be able to date who they want no matter what race they are. It really isn't anyone's business. And if they choose or not choose to date a certain race... they shouldn't be shamed.
AGREED. I hate it when people say I only married my husband because of his white skin, so disgusting how people thing... none of their business
Here's the thing. You say everyone should be allowed to date who they want but the problem is that white aren't allowed to. White men that like white men are destined to be single for the rest of their life. Media brainwashed white women into only dating black. In short white women only date black men now. So you're saying everyone is allowed to date who they want except white men?
@Mike100745 date whoever you want as long as they want to date you too...
@Mike100745 For one thing... that is all bull shit. I dont date black men. And there are a lot of white women who date only white men. But if someone doesn't want to date you... that is their preference.
@Rissyanne I agree
@Mike100745 "White men that like white men are destined to be single for the rest of their life. Media brainwashed white women into only dating black. In short white women only date black men now. " Source?
@jacquesvol I can't believe you agree with me. I assumed you would call me racist.
@Rissyanne It would be insanely WEIRD to say I won't date a blue or green girl even if she has a ph. dr. degree and a nice personality.
@jacquesvol well I know what I’m attracted to and what I’m not
@Rissyanne Who ever forced you?
People like to date outside of their race. Scientific reason is that nature likes variation and biracial kids have more diverse genes. I am from Bangladesh and since I started learning Mandarin I came across many families where one parent is Chinese and the other is Bengali. Their kids, omg, are brilliant and adorable to an extraordinary level. That is what kind of made me think that biracial kids have better genes.
Otherwise, everyone is used to their own race and wants someone outside of their race. Opposites attract...
For me, I don't care about race as long as he's a good person 😭❤
Research outbreeding depression.
I think the logic of "better genes" is based on larger variability being more resistant as a species (not better as individuals). In other words, 100 cheetahs with very similar genes are more likely to ALL die than ALL 100 cheetahs with a broader range in variability if a disease particularly specialized to kill them is introduced. I don't think variability in genes is related to making one person smarter though... lol. That sounds like eugenics. Broadness in genes excels as a species, not so much as individuals that I'm aware of.
Also I'm pretty sure genetic variability and "race" isn't really related. That's just a cultural attitude people use as labels.
Opinion owner, i will point out to you that this is complete nonsense. Biracial kids are in no way, i repeat, NO WAY better than non mixed kids. I grew up in a classroom with a majority biracial kids, and the best performers in mathematics were me, a pure race boy from ghana and one mixed race kid. Thats two single race kids, one mixed race. The fastest runner was the pure ghanan kid, the strongest kid was an albanian kid. Mixed race kids dont produce "better" people that is bullshit, and it has no basis other than your own feelings regarding it.
@cavmanier actually there can be some benefits to the individual as quite a few recessive genetic diseases are concentrated in certain populations. People of white European descent (especially Scottish) are more likely to carry cystic fibrosis with up to 1/14 in some areas carrying. People of African descent more often carry sickle cell anemia. Interracial couples are less likely to both carry the same genetic disease and then have a child who gets it from both and is affected. We see it more clearly with dogs frankly, where mutts tend to have less hereditary diseases than pure bred.
@0112358 but when the genes are too different that can also cause problems. I know a lot of mixed race kids who get colds and sickly very easily. The dna is always healthier is obviously not true
@lord_chilled I said, "That is what kind of made me think that biracial kids have better genes." I didn't say it is true. I said that I THINK.
@lord_chilled true. It does not necessarily mean that the children will get better genes, because you can't select who gets what gene from what parent.
I hear this sort of sentiment sometimes and having known multiple mized race individuals, i find this rather irritating, which is why i commented
@lord_chilled biracial kids won't that common here maybe that's why I can tell how they are different from other people, I guess. Culture and upbringing may also be a factor.
@0112358 You are not entirely correct with your dog breeding analogy. Cross-breeding in muts has been known to create problems. I've seen a mut who inherited a larger torso from one parent and smaller legs from another. The dog has arthritis problems in their hindlegs inducing immobility.
To everyone in this thread, there's inbreeding depression and there's outbreeding depression. Breeding with someone too dissimilar from their own makeup can causes problems. Breeding with someone too similar like within immediate family or incest can cause problems. They're both rolls of the dice. But the frequency of problems isn't as high as you think. They're both natural safeguards to ensure a population is adapting to it's environment. You can create what's called hybrid vigor with controlled inbreeding (pedigree) by isolating groups within a population and if fertility declines in one group, you cross them with another group effectively invigorating a new group maintaining most of the homogenized characteristics in a population on the whole.
Culture and upbringing are a factor. It's about half of the equation in determining an individuals development. The other half being genes. There's only so much return you can get investing resources in individuals. But what level of development is necessary for survival in a population is a moving target as well. It tends to also move with the amount of resources available per individual for development. The model isn't as simple as "daaah race-mixing good, derp". Whoever said race and genetics aren't related is wrong too. You go to the doctor, they want to know your race because that narrows down their differential diagnosis tree to see what diseases you are prone too. There are too many feeling based speculations on race and genetics.
@love_conquers_lust it isn't very simple, but I was just saying. Besides, it's so easy to get along with foreigners today so those who want to do so can do it really really easily.
And then comes other countries where there are people of many races, of course.
@love_conquers_lust exactly. People talk a lot about inbreeding depression, but they dont seem to understand or just ignore the other end
@0112358 I agree there are benefits for individuals. That was implied when saying the species is more likely to survive. The winners are the individuals. She was specifically talking about intellect though which I've seen nothing of statistical averages of broad genes supporting. I agree variability helps with disease, but I'm skeptical race is relevant. Large gene pools are relevant, and race doesn't even significantly contribute there. The point of what I was saying is that genetic variability helps species (regardless of "race") as well as individuals (because individuals are part of species) survive disease. There's no proof of variability benefiting intellect though. Intellect would actually be a random chance of the variability. (some babies would be smarter, dumber, more prone to certain disease and less prone to others). We are basically speaking evolution. A black and white mixed baby won't guarantee a superior baby lol. It's all chance for the given environment.
@lord_chilled "Mixed race kids dont produce "better" people that is bullshit, and it has no basis other than your own feelings regarding it." Yeah it's kind of interesting. If this were a conservative outlets opinion (like Trump especially) it would be taken out of context as Hitler Nazi eugenic racism. If a liberal says it, it's pro diversity right? lol. The power of context. No offense to you @CubsterShura. Your opinion is probably based on things you've heard about benefits of lots of gene options. And there is some truth to it. Race doesn't = lots of genes though. Lots of genes don't = intellect either. Lots of genes on average benefits a species, but it's all dependent on the roll of the dice. Individuals don't always benefit.
@cavmanier yeah, lol. And liberalism has been promoted to such an extent that their worldview has been somewhat accepted as the norm. Makes me rather proud to sat im not part of that, and am a conservative person.
@lord_chilled it's like the world view represented in pop culture and media huh. Hollywood is mostly liberal and look at the narrative of the Weinstein scandal. All the liberals at the award show said me too even though in the Hollywood circle it was well known of the abuse on women. Oprah was buds with Weinstein until... And she's still buds with the accused rapist Bill Clinton. Trump's the ignorant racist though to them. In Hollywood it's really me too when it's career safe and popular to say. It wasn't me too before though. I agree that being liberal is no longer the controversial innovating rebel party. They're now the politically correct trendy party people are expected to follow. I'm not conservative either. I'm pretty independent but I do agree more with the conservatives more clearly you can probably tell lol. I was sort of a "classical liberal" back when they weren't about identify politics.
@cavmanier well, people in showbiz generally use and abise each other to their desires and to further their career or for favours or whatever. Its usually never that black and white, but im certain there are powerful sexual predators there, but there are also women , and maybe men who use their sexual appeal to climb up the ladder. As for the metoo bs, and jumping sides, stating their opinions, its all fake and bs. They are actors, its what they do best. They will say and do anything to keep being relevant and in the spot side, and most importantly on the good side of whoever they have to be on with. I dont trust any one of them, and frankly couldnt care less. I enjoy movies, but thats as far as it gets, i dont care about many actors. As for my political stance , i had a lot of liberal indoctrination growing up, but as an adult i quickly saw past the bs. Conservatism is actually pretty logical and moral, if you ignore the extremists and the very ignorant supporters
@lord_chilled @cavmanier Their character may be suspect. But sexual harassment in the workplace and abuse outside of it is real. It's good to hold some conservative values, however social progress needs to be made. You guys should try asking girls you know to share their story you may be oblivious of. You might be in for some infuriating tales.
@love_conquers_lust I guess you don't understand. Have you met conservatives? They tend to have great values. They are not against men harassing woman nor am I. That isn't what I was trying to say. Your perspective on on my comment is why liberal ideology is the mainstream view. Conservatives get thrown into the unsympathetic or evil box if they don't go along with what is politically correct on the surface. Their real views are often misrepresented. Mischaracterized. Yes some social progress is important. Hollywood saying me too aren't pioneers. No one was arguing for harassing women. Hollywood did the show they did to appear like good people. There jobs and incomes rely on that perception. In reality though, there may be a lot of responsibility lying within those people. If the media didn't like them for their liberalness, guess how they could have reported the whole narrative? That never happened though.
Not for men harassing women** (Obviously)
@love_conquers_lust liberalism =/= progress tough. And conservatism doesn't hinder it either as you may think. As for the girls, im sure thete will be some, but i find the 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 statistics to be bs. There is no way that many men are rapists or that a few rapists raped that many women without someone killing them. A lot of those numbers are "harrassment" at different levels, since many narratives broaden the definition of rape to include things that aren't exactly rape, as well as possible false rape accusations/claims. 1/10 may be true, but even that seems too much
@lord_chilled yeah rape statistics seem to be "seasoned" to exaggerate. No rape is okay though of course. Rape really sickens me.
@cavmanier ofcourse it does. Which is why those statistics sicken me. But its definitely overblown if that many men were rapists, then the life expectansy of men would be lower due to all the slashings and shooting over that in itself. And with the exepetions of the few very intelligent , elusive serial rapists that are also killers (like jeffrey dahmer), A single man on a spree wouldn't last too long alive either. If that happened to a female in my family i wouldn't do anything else prior to gutting the pig, and i wouldn't be short of guys holding him down for me either. And im sure most males feel the same way. It doesn't make sense that so many men are out and rapin'
@lord_chilled and I also agree that the progressives are actually in many ways regressives now a days. This is close to my feelings
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@lord_chilled @cavmanier It happens, fellas. Independent of political affiliation. And behind closed doors. I both support Conservatives and oppose them for some of their antiquated views. Quite frankly, asking women to speak up is only step one. The next step is leading by example and coming down on those who do it, not leaving them to fight for themselves against men who instituted this system. Women should do the same to make sure no false accusations are thrown around. The good news is, crime, and rapes, continues to go down. White on Black rape has almost disappeared nationally since around 2000 as Millennials and Xers come of age. Hopefully everything else follows suit.
@lord_chilled @cavmanier I've asked myself this question for years about my past interactions. Is it genuinely okay to have locker room talk and say "I'll fuck the shit out of Chick X" or "Check out that girl, I'd plow that." It's all jokes, right? But apparently, unbeknownst to us, some of us weren't joking.
@love_conquers_lust it happens, but not as often as you would think. And you seem to buy into a lot of the feminist bs about locker room talk , and none of those examples are a problem. None of it implied non consent. I have seen really predatory talk and its nothing like the "locker room talk" you just mentioned. When you see a modestly dressed girl with maybe just one accidental button of the shirt open and the guy next to you says " damn look at that, you can't blame someone if he rapes THAT, she is totally looking for it" , then the guy is suspect.
@lord_chilled Try asking. Be sensitive about it.
@love_conquers_lust i have many times to many who are close to me. none of the women i am close to had it happen. And none of the guys i am close to are rapists. You are being overdramatic. Stop drinking the liberal cool-aid. Unless you are living an a warzone or a lawless hellhole, it isn't that bad. You are acting as if you want to be right about those lame, fake statistics
@lord_chilled If you've ever heard of the 1 in 5 chance of being raped in a woman's lifetime statistic, that number is a lie. That's liberal koolaid. I did some back of the envelope calculations based on annual reported rapes/sexual assaults (sexual assault and rape aren't the same here) in the US, it conservatively comes out to around 1 in 20. It's even safer on college campuses. These are reported rapes/sexual assaults, unreported I don't know. And you will find these things typically occur at higher rates in the impoverished population. PLEASE keep in mind demographic differences between the US and other countries. It very much matters. We have 61% White, 14% Hispanic, 14% Black, and a balance of Asian/other. I don't think another Western country comes close to that kind of diversity, correct me if I'm wrong. I hope it stays that way for people you know. It is so infuriating to hear.
@love_conquers_lust 1 in 20 sounds more reasonable as an average. College campuses are extremely safe. I never heard of a single incident in my uni. As far as i know. Maybe there is something i dont know, but its mostly perfectly fine. If there was really so much rape in college campuses, why would parents encourage theirbkids to even go there? And these things do occur more in impoverished places, as poverty is linked to higher crime rates in general. Currently , no other nation in Europe has as much diversity, but they are catching up with forced immigration. And rapes have gone up as well
@cavmanier It is hilarious that you point out Bill Clinton and Oprah having a friendship. Which I think it highly suspect given her support of Obama over Hillary. She voted for Hillary in the last election cycle, that's hardly an endorsement of Bill Clinton. Yet Trump supporters are literally rabid in their support for him, with 18 women accusing him of sexual misconduct. It isn't even a comparison in reality. But somehow, you guys make that square peg fit into a round hole.
@RolandCuthbert what? What does that have to do in this discussion?
@RolandCuthbert nvm, i found the oart you replied to. Well, since you wanna get started again with that, you should know that bill, hillary and obama all play for the same team. Sure there was some competition between hillary and obama, but they are still part of the same administration. And the left is involved in a ton more sexual misconduct that right wingers like trump. Ever heard of pizza gate?
@lord_chilled You're probably right, it most likely will not occur in your circles. If you are in lower classes towards the poverty line, that odd shifts closer to 1 in 5 (I don't know what the actual number is, it depends on where you set your boundary cutoffs for class). If you are upper or middle class, that odd shifts away from 1 in 20 to like 1 in 50. So you see how it averages out. And you can see why relative perspectives and arguing are at play here. Middle and upper class women are saying rape isn't that bad. Lower class women are saying it is. And they're both calling each other crazy based on anecdotal evidence. Meanwhile, being the assholes we can sometimes be, some guys sit back and say "muh dick". I don't like government assistance, but sometimes I'm all in favor of our gender getting screwed over to help them.
@RolandCuthbert I may be wrong about her being buds with Bill. She was buds with Weinstein though, when much of Hollywood knew what he was doing. He's worse than Bill (if Bill even did it). I personally liked Bill as a politician and am not saying he's guilty. Bill is quite close to Trump politically i m o (look at their policies). The big issue in credibility I have for Trumps accusers is the issue of knowing lengths people will go to justify their political opinions, and the timing of accusations a week before the election. lol. "Grab em by the pussy" was a bragging type exaggeration that he’s so great that women actually would want to be touched (b s obviously). I’ve been at events with city leaders and have heard similar bragging type locker room talk. It was always unrealistically exaggerated though and always in front of only men. I don’t think Trump is the mecca of ethics. He probably did cheat on his wife with that porn star etc.
@cavmanier Dude, everyone was friends with Weinstein. He had money and he had produced so many films. And no, not many people knew what was going on. It is incredible to me that you guys don't keep one standard. I could say that everyone knows now that Trump sexually assaulted over a dozen women. But that isn't true. Because half the nation disbelieves these women and they believe Trump. Which is why women don't come forward. They won't be believed. And it doesn't matter if they are liberal or conservative. It doesn't matter if it is Trump or Weinstein. It matters that they are women and their perpetrators are male. That's it. . . that's all. It isn't that complicated.
He’s actually been fairly liberal in many ways much of his life. What I like about him is he isn’t a slave pussy to the media trying to shame him into being a politically correct weiner. He tries to use his common sense over conformity. Plus I like that he’s pro business and pro US--not pro trying to please the outraged.
B t w. There are some awesome black Trump supporters. Trump doesn't = white like the media screams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd37cMfe7Y8
@lord_chilled @love_conquers_lust Speaking of rape, I've never heard me too talk about the jump in rape statistics in Countries like Germany and Sweden right after they brought in refugees. Me too, if it fits my political ideology right? I mean, we can't insinuate something negative against someone without white skin right? Don't wanna be a racist.
@cavmanier Oh and here is a "White" guy I like. He doesn't whine and complain that his culture (race if it matters) isn't the center of the universe anymore. And he is very understanding of the dynamics of the race conversation and how weird raciologists get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4mVaLvpsXs&t=90s
That had to be the weirdest response in the history of responses.
@RolandCuthbert It's well known what Weinstein did. That's not really debatable. With people like Bill and Trump, I'm more skeptical because like I said, there are people that have strong motivations to lie in order to justify perceived activism. That my opinion. Like I said though, I don't think Trump is a saint and no I wouldn't be surprised if he cheated. He might have grabbed some girls too. That's not super uncommon in the world. It's not right either but I don't think it means a person can't hold an important job because of it. I don't have a problem with Oprah being friends with him. I bet she's a good lady overall. My issue is the hypocrisy. It's worse for me because the way I see the progressive party displayed by the media is as the enlightened ethical ones. Republicans are portrayed as the knuckle dragging, hillbilly racists. They aren't judged equally. If Hollywood was republican, the media would be trashing them as alt right terrible people.
Instead, giving her speech, Oprah was seen the Jesus like savior of women from tyrants. The truth? Oprah could have done more for women before it was trendy. No she isn’t a bad person, but she’s no saint. And like I said, if she had an “R” by her political name, the whole political narrative would have been about her potentially enabling Weinstein.
I know that there are lots of white liberals. I was trying to show that being pro Trump isn't about being pro white (I'm not). I'm a classical liberal. I'm not for all this identity politics. I'm for equality. "He doesn't whine and complain that his culture (race if it matters) isn't the center of the universe anymore" That is a very small percent of people, and it's literally whipped up by Russian ads trying to divide the US to make us weak.
@cavmanier It is well known what Trump did. And what he did is not really debatable. Now here you are talking about Bill Clinton and Trump. You are incapable of applying one standard. When you get multiple claims of sexual harassment against a person, you have to look into it. And when it comes to politics or a work environment, you do not have to prove "reasonable doubt". I work with a company that dismissed a high ranking VP after two incidents of sexual harassment. Count them. . . two. He hit on two different women. It was corroborated by other witnesses who spoke with them after each incident and he was also caught sending a text message where he said something inappropriate. Politics should not matter when it comes to sexual harassment. You keep injecting it and it is not proper. Our government is paralyzed because of the political implications of this. When are we going to see the list of congressmen who paid off settlements with taxpayer money?
@cavmanier If you see her as a Saint, that is your problem. I am pretty sure average human beings know she is an average human being. You are still avoiding the issue. Here you are claiming she enabled Weinstein. Do Trump supporters enable Trump? Again with the politics. Sexual harasserment is not political.
@love_conquers_lust And there are lots of "Black" supposed conservatives. And I am trying to show that being anti-Trump is not being anti-conservative. In fact many "White" conservatives think Trump is an idiot, anti-American, and will lead the nation to ruin if he stays in power. As for identity politics, I appreciate all these ready made arguments you embrace. But I have always been a person who thinks for himself. I like Tim Wise, but I have many disagreements with him. As for this whole culture business, I wholeheartedly support cultural diversity and the right for different cultures to exist. I am like your friend "lord_chilled". But I don't believe you can force people to identify with a culture. Everyone has freedom to choose. If a "Black" man wants to become Swedish, he can. . . if Swedish people accept him. That has nothing to do with me.
@love_conquers_lust " I don't like government assistance, but sometimes I'm all in favor of our gender getting screwed over to help them. " Thats the problem. Screwing over your gender isn't helping them. When an innocent man is accused of rape and loses his life, it isn't helping actual rape victims at all. Dont be so simple minded.
@lord_chilled I'm not talking about rape. I'm talking about government assistance.
@love_conquers_lust in what way?
@lord_chilled Any form you can think of. Females receive the most government aid. And rightfully so. They cry about the wage gap, but you know you can't make them like shitty work they're not interested in AND fulfill traditional roles. I'm just saying Democrats and the Left aren't completely off on some of their points. That false rape claim crap. If you have nothing to hide, you should have nothing to fear.
Look, I'm not meaning it in a bad way but you are getting out of topic. You guys are more than welcome to start a round table meeting about whatever topic, and maybe invite me in if you wish. But not HERE please. Thank you, bye.
@love_conquers_lust yeah , i just disagree with all of what you said. All of those things are harming society in very negative ways and leftists and democrats are full of bs for promoting them. As she said, im gonna stop commenting, but feel free to pm me over this.
@lord_chilled I'm good. We could be at this for days.
@RolandCuthbert "As for identity politics, I appreciate all these ready made arguments you embrace. But I have always been a person who thinks for himself." You assume I got my opinions from others on youtube. Actually, I noticed the phenomenon and it was refreshing to see that others saw what I did. I've been a person on the extreme end of thinking for myself. I don't want to go in circles. We obviously disagree and that's okay. Being this serious on gag is pointless. Strong logical fallacy though. Someone gives an argument and you thwart it by accusing the person of not coming up with the initial opinion. That'd work on many people.
@Blacksareugly Who in the world are you talking to? And no. . . people don't date within their "race", they usually date within their culture. What in the world is race supposed to be anyway? African-Americans by definition are mixed race.
Quite normal here already. Don’t worry too much about GaG people.
I don't like stereotypical African features and not a fan of real dark skin. I prefer Caucasian features simply because that's what I am used to. Mixed are also okay.
People like what they like. Preferences are okay.
At least you're honest. Preferences can be okay, but I noted the irony in how people who defend their "preferences" still have an element of racism to it, or don't even realize their own contradiction.
"I don't like stereotypical African features and not a fan of real dark skin".. Like he said at least you are honest even if it is kinda prejudice..
I don't think you have to justify yourself to anyone. I myself prefer black men slightly, but I have dated men of all races. As you've described, I think there are really problematic stereotypes of why a white woman would date a black man, and why a black man would date a white woman. I see it mostly in responses from white men, but I also see a few black men here that seem to have a problem with what you write. Nothing you write comes off as if you only run after white girls. You simply state you have dated mostly interracially, and that's perfectly fine. I support this take 100%. You do you.
but why is it always black or white lol
... isn't there other races out there that could use mixing too
containing it to only black or white... it;s almost like the very thing we are trying to get away from --> which is racially preferences --> they are being emphasized with titles that are geared towards black and white
Well, it's that black and white are the dominant cultures in the U. S.
Awesome observation. The reason being is that we only perceive interracial relationships with "White" people. He says "Black", "White" are dominant cultures in the U. S. But the same response would come from a Latino or Asian.
You're still going on about this? Dude, no one cares about interracial relationships. They've been around and will continue to be around. Just glad you didn't use this as another opportunity to bash black women. Because newsflash: that's why you got all the hate you did last time. Not because you prefer white women. But because in order to let everyone know that you prefer white women, you had to call black women every ghetto, trashy, hoodrat in the book. So make you mention THAT next time.
^^^ This. Honestly, black women really don't care if a black man dates a white girl or a girl of a different race as long as he keeps us out of his damn mouth.
@CHARismatic110 Ya wanna know what's funny? I actually have bashed white women in both these Takes more than black women. You didn't notice that, did you? Lol.
@xXiTacoXx pretty much!
Dude, no you haven't. Especially not the other Take. We've had personal conversations and I've told you, like what you like but it's no reason for you to downtalk black women the way you do.
And yet I hardly even said much about black women this Take! Lol.
And I said I was glad for it.
@CHARismatic110 Even in the first Take though I still talked more about the things I disliked from white women than black women, you just tuned that all out so you could get in your feelings about it as a black woman. Neither black or white women are gonna be perfect about these relationships, and I noted those imperfections. All you're doing at the end of the day is just proving exactly what I said.
Of course I am.
I don’t really care what race he is if I like I’m going to date him
While I agree with the overall statement.. It just kinda seems like this is over glorifyin "interracial" relationships especially with "White" women and "Black" men... Also you sound just like this guy on Youtube who is obsessed with "White" women.. But you said you prefer Latinas so you ain;t obsessed.. Now, I'm all for humans just datin humans but I don't entirely agree with the way you are goin about talkin about it.. Also you make it sound like "Black" men and women are dislikin each other romantically more and more..
If we are going to rid ourselves of racial bigotry, we have to accept peoples choices, even when they don't go our way. This does not mean we are "color blind". It means we see color as art appreciation and enjoy nature's infinite variety.
Good for them.
I really try to step all the way back and say I will like a person regardless of their gender, race, religion, class, education etc - It may turn out I have type but that shouldn't be a thing - Same goes for other peoples' relationships - As for people who make it a "Thing", I think that says more about them than me.
People ought to date who they like. I just don't like the politicization of the dating scene along race lines, shit like that helps nothing no matter how positive the intent is.
In terms of a preference there isn't much to do about it. But I don't think too many people have an issue with it. Some people might cause of close mindedness or how they are raised.
I don’t care and honestly most people here where I am from don’t care, everything is cool. I am a product of such a relationship (though it didn’t work out after a decade) and myself with an African man. But nice take to describe your experiences. The truth here why a lot of my African girlfriends look when they see an African man with a white girl is because many times somehing is up, we know the guy in the community and what he does behind her back and sometimes it is for a visa or other things and sometimes we know the girl that iit is more like a fetich for her and sometimes it is pure love and rhat’s the best.
virtue signal much? I wouldn't be surprised if this was a social experiment! Dating outside of your race makes it more likely shit will go south faster but go ahead and try it if you want. Could work.
I'm a black women and I am perfectly fine with black men dating white women.
Thank you😊
Your welcome everyone has a right to date who they want. I would be a big hypocrite if I objected because I date outside my race too.