Why are teenage girls so mature sexually but teenage boys are clueless?

[Anonymous]

I work minimum wage. Yea I ain't shit. I work with a lot of teenagers in various min wage jobs across time.

Teenage girls are always talking about nasty kinky raunchy things with the older of age women. Usually they do it when they think their male co workers are not around or are not paying attention. But they like to talk about being "bent over" or being spanked or choked and much more.

Meanwhile teenage boys are timid and shy. Sometimes you get the confident guy who has been with a lot of girls already at a young age. And he can hang on that level.

But most teenage boys are just utterly clueless about that world. They don't know why anyone would want to be choked. They don't know how to flirt. If anything they're scared to do it!

Why is that? Why are girls so raunchy and nasty and into freaky shit at a young age but boys are utterly oblivious?

[PositiveFlight]

You actively make some very good points about the reality of the world right now. Especially in pop culture and modern American society. It’s awful! It’s multi faceted. For starters, most younger men nowadays have lost their natural masculine identity because the world has told them that they are toxic by their very nature. They are afraid to engage with pretty much anyone but especially women their age because they don’t want to be accused falsely of anything. They won’t even speak their mind or stand up for themselves. They have literally been reduced to being a drone in society. The other extreme of course is men who are complete and total assholes to everyone they meet and view women as an object.

Younger women on the other hand have learned a lot of perverted and unhealthy sexual ideas because porn, boyfriends, and pop culture has told them that they won’t be loved or lovable unless they perform sexually in the most disgusting and self disrespecting ways possible. They can’t even see it, just how disrespectful they are being to themselves and yet they feel they are somehow liberated and sexually in control of themself without a relationship or guy in the picture. They are taught to be more aggressive as well.

Society in general has become very degenerate and selfish. Society is losing many traits of civility, respect, and in general has learned to dehumanize one another with no regard for life or love. Literally an animal or an inanimate object is assigned more value than someone will give their own peers. A society such as this is quickly becoming ripe for self destruction and Civil War. Much if it is due to lack of actual parenting, morals being taught, respect for life and others, shitty ideas from pop culture and entertainment, and marxist agenda driven public schools!

Unfortunately, there are many good people, both men and women in the mix of it all who are truly hurting due to lack of decent interactions with the opposite sex, relationships, marriage, etc.

[Asker]

I agree with the fear and shame boys feel. I'm 36 or 37 can't remember right now but ever since even before I was a teen, I knew that men did bad things to women. And so I was terrified of girls my entire life. Scared they may mistakenly perceive me as a creep in some way. It really fucked me up. As an adult a lot of women liked me. But I didn't know what to do with their advances when I was 19-20. But now looking back I see that all these girls wanted me to "be their daddy." Meaning, they want me to take control. Grab them up, take them home, and do what I want with them. Thats like the ultimate red pill in my mind. And women will deny it to the death though if you ask. I don't know if I agree with the societal aspects. But you're right at the same time. I can see society being accepting of sex and sexuality and that being a reasonable logical thing. But I think the way society has fractured right now between conservative views of sexuality, and liberal views of sexuality. Liberals aim to make sexuality known and understood as early as possible. Conservatives aim to make sexuality a sacred thing that requires a eye towards purity. The state of affairs we have now is caused by an amalgamation of the two.

[PositiveFlight]

I would agree with the societal aspect you just outlined. That is certainly a component as well. I’ve been around long enough to witness things that I do stand by the societal aspects I have also outlined. I know it’s a pretty shitty world out there for you. And I’m sorry you have to deal with all of it

[Asker]

Nah I'm fine. Now that I know what women like it's a lot easier to interact with them. I feel like women are just like that though. That society doesn't matter. Women like to be submissive. And that comes with a lot of freaky nasty stuff. That's where submission leads. The fantasies have to go into the darkness of denial pain and degradation. The liberal answer to this is to shed light on it, make it known, and give people the tools to engage with their sick bastard fetishes safely. The conservative fears for those dark sexualities to be known because it is like drugs. It causes people to engage in potentially disgusting behaviors. Conservstives don't want to see people parading around in leather suits with whips and pee holes peeing into bound up people used as furniture. And I don't want to see that shit either lol.

[msfuntastic]

I have noticed a steep decline in the number of men who are sexually dominant in more recent years, and that is something I miss. You are correct, I like being submissive, and I like the freaky nasty stuff. Yes, I'm the 50 shades of grey generation, lol. It used to be you didn't have to convince guys you wanted to do stuff, they would just come at you and tell you to do as they say, and I liked that. It is much more fulfilling and satisfying to be submissive to a guy who WANTS to dominate and do all the freaky stuff. Male dominance was a trend much more prevalent back in the days of the 2000s / early 2010s. Wish that we could go back to that!

[Asker]

@msfuntastic Men of the past were dominant in a patriarchal, ignorant, culturally programmed way. I would think you would prefer a more rational dominance to an ignorant one. Then again, a man who truly believes women were given to men by God to be our servants probably makes you wet. But the women of the past lived shitty brutal lives. And the women today have fetishes for those experiences lol. Hey I'm not mad it is what it is. For me I didn't understand the dominance thing at all. Now I understand it. And I can be dominant. But I'm very against the times of the past where men really saw women as animals. You can still get to play the role in the real world. How can a man learn what women want in a way that doesn't tell him "rape women because that's what they like." Because that is the conclusion drawn by any dude who hears about how women love to be dominated. It's like a whole different sexuality that most men simply have not activated. You can give a man all the advice in the world on how to be dominant and all he will do is make himself look silly. I had so many girlfriend's who wanted me to dominate them. So many girls asking me to be their "daddy" and I didn't know wtf I was supposed to say to that. Today I know. And because of that knowledge i have confidence with women. I feel I understand them now and I have great relationships with them now. All from knowing and understanding why they want such screwed up fantasies played out in the bedroom. I don't know why it's so important for a man to understand this about women. But I feel like it is. Sorry I guess. I know everything I say is offensive.

[msfuntastic]

Yeah, obviously I disagree. Patriarchy is natural, the further we get from that, the less natural we become. I don’t think men were ignorant in any way. They were responding to a need that women have by fulfilling needs and desires that men had. In a way, the more society abandons the nature of traditional patriarchy, and the more we’re “liberated” the more we as women crave sexual domination in more extreme forms, almost as a way of making up for these unnatural advances. Men were also increasingly seeking roles of sexual dominance, but then the political correctness hit. In my opinion, the true social “programming” to tell them it’s shameful for them to act on such urges to be dominant because everything must be egalitarian or be criticized. I don’t want sexual equality, I want be treated like a slave and an animal (and feel like one) by a guy who sees me as such whenever we enter the bedroom. It’s a need, and men who artificially craft a dominant act, do not fulfill it the same way.

[Asker]

It's not that I had a set opinion. More like I want to know the truth. Is it biological or is it socially driven? You obviously believe it's biological. The feminists seem to claim to have considered the science and determined it is not biological. However I have not been able to find the justification or facts that would prove that it is society and not science. And good luck finding that information. You have to have like 10 PHDs in order to understand their justification. That's why they don't try to change your mind. They only scream at you in rage for not believing in the science they believe in. Obviously the people who wish to claim it is biological are completely devoid of science and intellectual shit. They may claim its science but truly those people are rarely engaging in contemporary scientific discussions. At the same time I HAVE seen scientists make the biological claim. One popular person of such ideas is Bret Weinstein and his wife. So yea I still don't know the truth. And I need to see the facts and perspectives fully in order to know the answer to the biology vs social construction debate.

[msfuntastic]

I think everything about human nature is part nature and part nurture. Too much nurture can be a bad thing, but too much nature can as well. In the end, I don't think it really matters all that much. Must we know why people like what they like, and dislike what they don't? Or can we agree to leave well enough alone and allow the sexes to just be different, but complimentary?

[Asker]

You're saying exactly what I think. Ultimately it doesn't matter. Let people be free let people live. But that is impossible. If you know anything about feminism than you know that feminists see male and female as products of the patriarchy which harms women. And we live in a society, and people demand for morality. They wish for government to step in and right the wrongs of the past. To advocate to live and let live is the equivalent of being morally abhorrent. To advocate to not change the definitions of man and woman, is damaging to women. According to the feminists obviously. And then we have the religious right doing their own form of moralizing and wanting to force others to live as they believe a person should live. So yea I don't think it matters at the end of the day but in reality it does because it's one of the most important debates for those who wish to impose a moral system onto the population.

[msfuntastic]

What I hate is the attack on masculinity and men. Let men be men, whatever that is. I mean, you did start off your reply by saying men used to be ignorant and programmed, and that is part of the whole feminist attack. Not every man was bad and immoral just because he understood himself to have the dominant role in relationships, or for having a sexual appetite for women. Obviously I'd rather society be open to anyone being the type of person they want to be, but the demonization of traditional men needs to stop. Teaching men to their normal behavior is "toxic", has done a lot of damage. It has bred a whole generation of lost men (incels and red-pills) who are very frustrated and confused about relationships, and come to hate women because of it. Relationships can be complicated enough, we didn't need a bunch of political nonsense dumped into it, but here we are.

[ohsheeT]

Because a teenage boy gets so excited that this is going to happen or take place his brain starts shooting Sparks like pinballs are going up in there where a female is more romantic is more in control and enjoys that moment and want that moment to keep going and going and going she wants to grow with it the guy is either selfish and too excited and he's done within one to two minutes but the girl you have to take your time with and become one with her and she understands that

[Anonymous]

it could be because boys are allowed to be boys much longer than girls are allowed to be girls. For boys child hood ends when ever they feel it does for women our child hood ends when we get our first period. For me that was around 9 or 10 years old. I suddenly went from a child watching cartoons and playing with dolls to bleeding from my most private of places. to all my hormones being switched on, and by 14 my body being ready to make babies and my body being shaped to draw men in for that purpose

[Asker]

But what causes girls to desire domination? It's not like boys aren't horny as hell. From the day we pop our first boner we are obsessed with girls. But we are not thinking about choking you and slapping you. Like I said, I see that teenage girls I worked with talk about those things. Teenage boys are clueless about those things and don't understand why women like that stuff. Where does that come from? What is it about society that causes girls to be forced into this submissive sexuality? Do you wish it was otherwise? Or am I wrong about the whole thing?

[Apple1996]

Girls are pressured to grow up and pressured into sex very young while boys aren't. They get to keep their innocence longer since they are "less mature". It's honestly really messed up because if girls didn't have that pressure they'd be on the same level as boys and get to keep their innocence a little more

[Asker]

Boys are obsessed with sex as we grow up. Absolutely fucking BONKERS for it. Trust and believe. But what about society makes girls want to be spanked and choked and have their hair pulled? What makes them want men to take advantage of them? It's not that girls are just sexual. Aren't we all? Boys want sex ASAP. Are girls not the same? I just don't understand what causes girls to go down the path of submission, degradation, pain, and so on. It feels like when a guy is still unaware of that kind of sexuality, he never becomes a man. Sounds crazy but like there is a difference between people who see and understand why a person wants to be degraded, and the one who doesn't understand it at all. Personally I had zero confidence with women until i knew that wanted that stuff. Afferwards it's like I'm just fulfilling my dream of pleasing a woman that I had since I popped my first boner. All I ever wanted to do was please them in bed. I just didn't know it involved dominance and until I learned how to do it I was absolute shit in bed. I realized after so many years, girls only rejected me because I was not yet capable of being "daddy.", I just don't know what that's all about. Why did I have to become a freak in order to understand women? Before I was clueless and now I feel comfortable and fine. I feel like this is offensive and all the ladies here will be mad. But this is what I see I can't help but see that.

[Asker]

I just want to clarify my question because I worded it better in my head. What is activating that freaky kind of sexuality in girls at such a young age? It seems love boys are oblivious to it WELL into adulthood. Grown ass men have zero clue even But it feels like all women understand that kind of sexuality. That is what I wish to understand better. I'm not mad I'm not emotional. I'm not a woman hater I'm not anything but curious to know the answers.

[summiter]

As you may remember.. teen guys are horn dogs and are walking/talking boners.

[Asker]

But teen guys don't have a fetish for being slapped and choked. And most are clueless why a girl would want that. How many teen boys really have fetishes for dominating and degrading women in the same way that women desire? Maybe a few. But the majority don't have a clue about that shit. Yet, I observe the majority of teen girls not only seem to desire that, but even if they don't, they fully understand that kind of sexuality. What activates that kind of sexuality in them at such young ages?

[Gent207-2]

Girls and boys are both being exposed to porn at earlier ages, which is another serious problem.

But as to your question boys mature later in life according to numerous empiracle studies

[Asker]

I have always heard that girls mature faster than boys. But I did not know that that maturity was a sexual one. They make it sound like it's a competency thing. Girls learn earlier to be mature, in non sexual ways. Girls "grow up" faster. But what does that have to do with sexuality? I don't get it.

[Agape93]

This just sounds more like your fantasy than anything close to reality. Stop watching porn.

[FunkyMonkee]

Boys only have a dick. What can you do with a dick besides beat off and pee?
Girls have a pussy and do a LOT of exploring once they find out what they've got and how good it feels to do things to it. The strange thing is how utterly disgusted they get when a guy suggests ANYTHING sexual to them!!
Also, you've got perverts like Madonna singing about this shit and performing some of it in their concerts and, HOW MANY boys go to those concerts or buy those records? Hardly any!!

[Massageman]

Females mature earlier than males. They also pass through their fertile years earlier than males.

[CallmeTheKnight]

Because sick and perverted older men and women groom a number of young girls

[LiamJHayden]

No idea, but I am pretty sure you are correct.

[Rapport]

In my experince I've been with girls who knew a lot less about sex than me, the girls you're talking about are prolly 304's anyways

[Wise4myage]

Because girls tend to mature faster than boys.

[OddBeMe]

Well…porn. Sexual imagery keeping us dumb. Not enough sex ed for boys.

[najekim]

Nature made the female half of the species mature faster. Why? I have no idea. :)

[Anonymous]

Right now, a lot of young men have been socially conditioned to be more soft around women and careful with their sexual relations. They've been taught to repress and negatively judge any kind of advancement or fantasy that isn't deemed kosher or "nice guy" by the politically correct society we now inhabit.

It's a pendulum swing in the opposite direction of the previous generation, where the cultural attitudes around sex were very male-centric and women were quite objectified in a sense. It was a great time to be sexually active. Men were happy, women were happy. The sex was wild, fun, kinky and crazy. You didn't have to explain to a guy that you wanted bent over, spanked and choked. It was just a given that he would do that stuff.

But then society started shaming men, and making them feel like predators in every situation where they held power or influence over women. The younger ones took this to heart when they came of age. Even though, most women didn't actually feel that way... we like being dominated, controlled, used, etc. So now, young men are afraid of that, and think it's shameful. Women on the other hand, never stopped liking it, or fantasizing about it. It's just a lot trickier for us to get that now, because guys are so conditioned to be soft around us.

[Anonymous]

We get hit on all the time from around age 12 by older guys (and way older), it's constant, so by the time we're 15 or 16 or whatever we've done a lot of sexual things. Boys our age haven't done those things.

[Anonymous]

Boys are 'clueless' because they know if they express anything even vaguely sexual especially in the workplace they'd be executed by the MeToo firing squad before the week was out

Far, far safer to avoid sexual matters whatsoever and never put themselves in the position of being alone with a woman because that is a life ending move right there