Are women dirty with all men or do they do things with some sexual partners they wouldn't with others - e.g. anyone who has good traits like being a long term friend or boyfriend material?
If a girl did particular sex acts in the past with others, enjoyed those things just fine, but with you she wants a different kind of relationship? Those past relationships were fun, sexual, kinky, non-serious, and she wanted to get that out of her system, but now with someone who is kinder, sweeter and a great confident good guy, why not you?
She gave her full sexuality to someone less good and is giving a mere portion of that to you?
UNDER THE GUISE OF COMPLIMENTING YOU?
How is acting more innocent versus more suggestive a compliment? It makes little sense that you would open up sexually to a guy who isn't a greater guy?
So you, a better, more loving partner that she cares about more and is more serious about experiences less of her sexuality?
WHY DO WOMEN COMPARTMENTALIZE GUYS?
It boggles us, yet seems to make perfect sense to some women. Every man is a different kind of relationship for a woman, and it seems natural to her to want one kind of relationship with one guy, and a completely different kind of relationship with you???
Why would she not want to be her dirty self with you and enjoy such sex acts as getting a facial, doing it doggy style, having her hair pulled, maybe being tied up and being called a "slut"?
Some might say those sex acts she enjoyed previously or experimented with wouldn’t be enjoyable with you, because she’s having an entirely different relationship experience with you.
We’re smart enough to know that this signifies a lack of respect. But women don’t get that. In a woman’s mind, having a completely different sex life with a brash guy from the past, versus her attractive gentleman is normal?
Isn't it just crazy?
Answer this, and the lightbulb will switch on in your mind:
If you really want a good charming guy, then why do you not give yourself sexually and stop acting innocent with really great guys?
1. Would a great guy be able to do dirty things with her on day 1?
2. Would her charming guy friend be able to hit on her when she become single (having met her when she had a bf)?
3. Would that guy be able to be kinky with her?
4. Would a brash guy be able to get away with more in bed - e.g. whilst giving him head, can he call her a "dirty slut" and it's fine, whereas the other guy can't?
5. How can you justify the paradox of "he doesn't show interest" when he's being good and he's being too sexual if he states he finds you attractive? Yet a brash guy who isn't long term friend or boyfriend material can do anything they want? Then at the end you expect a good guy who has been essentially punished to not want to experiment or have sex with others???
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS BOYFRIEND MATERIAL DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO boyfriend THEM
You meet countless people in life. But given all the mind games women play on decent men, essentially you have a situation where great sex is not had amongst great men and women. You seem to think "men will lose respect for you if you act less innocent". That's total BS. A good friend would still be your friend after you sleep together. The great guy you sleep with after a first date will feel relaxed that you are a sexual woman and not someone who plays games.
Why then do you open up so quickly to a brash guy who isn't kind, doesn't text sweet stuff and isn't someone who you could know for a long time?
You can have a far better sexual experience with a great guy friend than a brash friend or stranger
Often decent men are far far better in bed than some brash guy who has to peacock himself out of insecurity in a compensating manner
IS SEX REALLY THAT CHEAP TO YOU?
It seems perverse you'd think that brash guys would be better in bed when a connecting experience with someone who is hot and decent would be a truly sensual dirty experience.
*** [You may be referred to the 3 star if you post a silly comment!] On top of that, please don't give the alpha guy excuse. Often the true alphas are good men. Not someone who posts a picture of himself surrounded by many women and posts spiel about how you need to be "confident" and "have game". Oh what knowledge! As if everyone on earth doesn't already know that! Most of the people who post that are nothing more than jerks who have no success with women or many friends for that matter. Don't let them get to you guys or girls.
Is it true though that some women simply subconsciously get turned on by guys who don't give a damn about them in the bedroom? Cos a decent guy would go to town to make it about her and thereby increase both of their pleasure. Often brash guys simply go in to the bedroom in what is assisted jerking off, where the female is there purely for his pleasure.
So do women get turned on sucking off a (fake) alpha's D? Can the brash guy get away with saying more degrading things?
Why do a lot of women label people (especially guys) into categories?
Frankly, if you're a friend, anything is possible when the following criteria are met. You are single. I am single. That's it.
So.......
1. If I met you when you had a boyfriend. Then you're single. I would consider you dateable if you are attractive and a really nice girl. But what would you think of me if we met like that in a context where we keep in touch in a social circle?
2. If you met me when I was taken and then I become single, likewise, at that point, anything can happen.
3. If you are taken, I am taken or both of us are, then obviously then you're not an option. (No cheating)
4. I do not label people as "just friends" that can never be anything more.
5. I don't label people as "hook up material" or "girlfriend material".
Personally the best kinky sex and the best sex would be with a really great girl who is nice. So a "girlfriend material" girl to me, having sex within 1 minute doesn't make her any less of a nice girl. It makes her much more of one for being refreshing and not playing games!
I can't see why girls play games with great guys. Especially texting. Ever heard of the girl who text you how you are, you respond, and then silence?
Or your female friend "read" your message on a chat app and didn't reply or replied way later with some BS excuse of being busy (despite her last seen being later than when she read it)? But that's a whole another question!
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33 34Because the short-term material guys are quicker at attempting to sleep with us.
Number one reason is that many millennial women are stupid. Then there are a long list of reasons why women are into those type of guys. They are usually bad (f***) boys. They are hot, exciting, never give a damn about anything or anyone, they make their own rules, blah blah blah. At the end, women KNOW these type of men make bad partners and even worse spouses. Women are usually in denial. Some women just has to have these type of men, probably because those same women who are not long-term material themselves.
I think the MAIN reason why women make such (poor) choices is due to approval and ego reasons. Women LOVE it when friends and people she knows of praising such a "great" guy she is dating. They want to hear from others how cute her relationship is with her man. When I say great, I mean guys with status, most likely with good looks and a bad boy attitude. Coincidentally, NOT ALL, but more often than not, these men are not long-term material. I have almost never seen anyone going crazy over a woman dating an average good guy. Rarely women think being with an average guy is "cute" or special.
I know a guy who constantly cheats on his girlfriend. Meta girl who lives right across by him and she fell so much for him that she introduced him to her mother over dinner. Just LOL. Women idea of GOOD MEN is no the same as MEN.
So say we all yellow mamba. But I think a great/good guy is a confident, charming, funny and flirty guy. Also good looking. So I don't see why this guy gets punished over some troll like thuggish guy or else a brash friend. Makes no sense. So why would a great guy friend with those qualities be given an innocent persona and a brash guy has her posing like a model? Yet she likes the great guy more? Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
@BubbleBoy69 I can't really understand, so what is a good man?
Well what do u think?
Some women are just damaged as hell. This is why guys should really try to meet as much women as possible in order to not tie down to one girl.
Yeah I get that, but if she's a friend and she's now single (hence a window of opportunity). I'm not saying she's the only girl I'm pursuing. I have texted, flirted and met up with a girl she knows ( another friend) and also other girls. But to get this one, how based on what I wrote?
You are too obsessed over this bitch. it's been months and your still asking how you can get with this girl who fucked another guy over you.
@BubbleBoy69 What? NOPE. You still haven't read it then. The girl never fucked anyone over me. The question I'm asking is separate from the take lol. READ moron. The girl I'm asking about is a friend who was in a relationship and who is now single. Now I want to have sex with her. How. She is a sweet person so I'm asking how. READ.
" she's a friend and she's now single (hence a window of opportunity). " U really think her EX-BF wasn't laying the pipe on her while they were a couple?
@BubbleBoy69 Obviously you're not reading. WTF has that got to do with anything. Instead of answering, or admitting you don't know, you're just bringing up irrelevant stuff. Who the f**k cares what they did. I was meeting other women at the time as she wasn't available. She's single now. She was not when I met her, obviously now she is free to hit on. So assist in how, or admit you don't know. Stop wasting my time otherwise.
I'm saying for a guy who says he is pursuing other women u keep bumping this mytake and wanting advice on how to fuck a girl that extends over like what i can tell at least 6 months. You need to admit you are obsessed with this girl and it's not healthy.
@BubbleBoy69 I dunno what you mean, but either way you obviously don't know how to answer this or you would have stated it instead of continually stating obvious or nonsensical irrelevant sentences. I repeat once more for your thick brain to get it: Read what I wrote to you just above and answer it if you know, or admit you don't know and stop wasting my time.
To make it crystal clear, I really couldn't give a damn what you think about me, I just want to know the answer to the question I'm asking, so read what I wrote to you (NOT the take) and answer or admit you don't know and don't waste other people's time acting all alpha when you're obviously not.
Ok. I'm just trying to help you out. Your obviously obsessed with this girl but if you don't want to hear it that's fine. I meet so many of you guys on GAG who just insult and lash out at guys trying to help you out.
@BubbleBoy69 If you're trying to help me out, then why are you not answering it? You keep claiming I'm only after this girl or she chose some other guy over me when that is NOT the case. Before you lambast me, read what I am writing so you can actually help me on MY problem , not some random generic problem other guys have. So if you want to help, and truly know the answer, then suggest and help mate, don't just have a go at me or make false statements bases on some other girl!
@BubbleBoy69 Obviously I am guessing you don't know since you aren't actually giving me any constructive advice based on the girl I am talking about
You have an overactive imagination, that's for sure.
Ok, what about: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Google this: hypergamy
This will answer your question.
Then go read the first two years' blogs of Rollo Tomassi here: www.therationalmale.com
This will change your outlook dramatically.
I love that site, yes I've already checked that stuff out. But it's not really addressing my question. What do u make of this: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
I would simply tell her that now that she's single you want to meet up and catch up. See where it goes from there. If she's unwilling to even see you then you didn't mean anything to her anyway. Don't be afraid to ask. If you've been FZ'd it may not make any difference. Women love beta-orbiters - especially the validation queens. She may not be all that you dream her to be - but simply what you've conjured up in your mind what you want her to be. IRL she may be a real drag, or simply incompatible. Pretty much every beautiful woman has some guy that is just sick and tired of her bullshit. So, why did she 'become single'? Remember, a woman that wants to be with you will crawl through broken glass and break all the rules to be with you, whether she has a boyfriend or not. If she doesn't she'll make up a new rule or excuse every day why she can't. You can't negotiate desire or attraction - it's either there or it isn't.
Yeah she is moving back, so catching up is fine, but logistics wise, there are mutual friends she has to see as well who might live in the vicinity of our catch up. What's a clear way to ask for a SOLO catchup? And what if you were invited to a group one? I don't think it is friend zone in this case. You can't exactly avoid being assigned by your university to a project group for a course. And it's not my fault I met her when taken. We're not besties, but sure we hit it off and have a rapport. I'm not some texting buddy or fb buddy everyday chatting. When we text we do have a great convo and she seems genuinely excited to hear from me or to find out about me and tell me news. Agreed on the rule and glass thing. But please SPECIFIC advice to my situation as described? Solo meet text?
It's always best to say exactly what you mean/want. Being clear makes it easy for the other person to really understand. If you beat around the bush and drop hints like the women do then you never know what they're going to get from it. In this case I would call her and just say, hey, I would like to sit down for coffee/smoothie/drink (whatever is appropriate) when you get here (or when you're here) and talk. Just you and me. How 'bout it? That is, as long as you don't mind getting shut down. And then you'll know for sure if you've even got a shot. If she says, nah, we're all meeting up and you're welcome to join the group, then you can decide if you really want to do that or not. That's the friend zone. Part of game is getting a girl to isolation. If you meet at a party or a bar (public place) youtake them out for a walk on the beach, or park, or whatever, so you can talk one on one. Again, if they're interested they'll want to do that with you, if they're not, they'll make excuses.
I agree on the group thing, that's why I'd rather avoid it. What I mean is, if before I contact her she contacts me first and invites me to a group thing or says she's meeting so and so, can I join, what should you do? Secondly, if I am the first one to suggest meeting up, how do you ensure it's just the two of you (if others live in the vicinity tempting her to catch up)? Can you please suggest phrasing that makes it clear by text it's to be a 1 on 1 for you to see her? Can you tell a female social circle "just you and me"? I mean I am guessing it's ok now she is single to meet her alone right? I don't think it's necessarily friend zone to meet a girl in your work group (can't avoid her) at university and be sweet/keep in touch. It's not like I'm a bestie, I'm not one of her fb friends, but I am a friendly person. Thoughts
in my opinion it's always okay to say what you want, what you mean. Forget the 'female social circle'. Ask her out on a date. "I'd like to take you out - can we have dinner?)" Or coffee, or whatever you think is a way to create an opportunity to talk. Does she know you're interested in her as more than a friend? Have you made that clear? "I'd like to see you, talk some more." "Can we meet up and talk? Just you and me?" Girls are all about being sweet and nice, social interaction, etc. Doesn't mean they have any interest in you otherwise. She could simply be being polite. That's why I ask if she knows if you have more interest. And is she receptive or just keeping you in FZ. I don't do FZ, fuck that. I don't need female friends. I'm polite, but I don't pal around with them - there's nothing in common.
Yeah I agree. I don't think you fully understood though. I was assigned in a group with her at university. I could NOT avoid her. And on top of that, I can't hit on her if she has a boyfriend man, that's wrong. I did always genuinely compliment her qualities. I've met her once when she was single as she briefly visited here for a few hours (she emigrated for work after graduating). Tbh I didn't find out her status till I met her. We've always kept in touch and my sweet texts might indicate a certain affection for her. But now she is moving back, I could technically meet her more often. I have though recently moved out of my bachelor pad back to my folks to help out running a company. So it's a bit harder - damn luck I think. I also think forget the social circle (it's actually some male friends too). I want to set the right precedent of meeting her, but I cannot date her atm given logistics. I'd love to spend my first time sex wise with her. I dunno how she feels, CONT
both of us are nice and innocent people (she's had 1 boyfriend and has lots of friends) but there has been a certain closeness between us. I don't know if she KNOWS I like her. How am I meant to convey that? I mean I don't have her interests of dance etc, but we do have fun exploring etc. And there's a good vibe. I kinda value her to. If she initiated an invite to a group thing, how do you POLITELY decline and deflect to a 1 on 1 meet? Can I ask her that dinner thing like that and make it clear I find her attractive? How do you phrase this, I'd appreciate your tips, not that experienced on asking a girl I know already to be able to treat her/weclome her back? As in do you have to state "just us" or is it clear enough saying, let's grab food? Thoughts?
Also by the way compliments have been about her personality so from here now she's single how do I tell her she's hot, has a sexy mouth and is attractive to me as well as being a pretty nice person?
Well, first of all I wouldn't necessarily tell a girl she was hot. If she is she already knows it, it's only a half-hearted compliment - I mean if I say 'you're hot' it means I want to get in her pants. So it may be a bit premature for that. It is better to just be upfront about your intentions. You could go on a group thing if there's one coming up soon - use it as an opportunity to invite her out one on one. If you ask her out, that's a date. And yes, you could easily say, "I'm going to be at (such and such - name place) on Friday night and I'd like you to join me. Just you and me." If you have her phone number why not just call? "I wanted to talk to you, to tell you that I'm interested in you much more than just friends." I wouldn't spend a bunch of time on the phone, I would use it to setup a meet. Just say, "Let's get together and talk - you and me. I'll pick you up Saturday at 4."
If she offers an alternative date or time set it up. If she just says she's busy and offers no alternate then she's not really interested in you personally. This can be confusing for many. Without spending time around her you'll have no idea if she's interested in you or not. But there's nothing wrong with you telling her that YOU are.
Tell her she has a sexy mouth - "makes me want to just kiss it." Whatever complement you make, make it about how she is arousing you. Not that you are placing her on a pedestal, but that you want her. As in WANT her. Women want to be desired - never pass up an opportunity to tell them you want them. So instead of saying, "you have pretty hair", you say instead, "I would love to have your hair hanging in my face." Always playful, be funny and fun. Learn amused mastery. Learn to treat her as you would a kid-sister. Don't be dominated by her attractiveness - that's what all the beta-orbiters do - paying her compliments and doing things for her just HOPING she'll have sex with them. That just doesn't get their juices flowing. You want to be dominate, decisive, confident, sure of yourself, tell her what you want, tell her what you want to do. Don't play the texting and social media game. Be mysterious, don't wear your emotions on your shirtsleeve.
Hi great points. My only thing is that a lot of it applies to brand new women. I'm asking about this girl I know who has become single. How to set the right precedent by still being yourself. So is going to a group thing the very first time the right thing to do? How - emphasis on HOW - do you phrase a 1 on 1 meet by text - either by declining a group invite or suggesting/asking her to catchup 1 on 1? Texting is better - I don't think our generation calls lol. Not on fb, but texting would be fine. Compliments to her have genuinely been about her qualities, and her about me too. What I'm asking is how to mention her mouth in general being hot. Maybe get her thinking about me sexually? Separately if the banana thing, or being attracted to her since I met her come up or how to bring them up? Can you clarify how you mean about the mouth comment/kissing it, given I KNOW her already? Can you just say that to a female you know? When welcoming her?
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I thought you knew stuff?
Sorry, I wasn't clear what the question was. Like how do you say stuff? You just say it. But the texting thing is just a bad idea - it's way to easy to mis-read or mis-understand what's being said - there's no body language, no emotional expression, just typed words. Texting is fine once you have a connection, but 'till you do it's all to easy to get led astray. in my opinion you want to express your interest in her, to her. As in directly. So your sole ambition should be to get that opportunity. If there's a group thing go and have fun, show her you're able to participate socially, and look for an opportunity to let her know you want to see her - alone, just you to, so you can talk. Girls like to TALK. So just say that, you want to get together to talk. This stuff has to be natural, just shoot from the hip. Be upfront, straightforward. You can't be afraid of rejection. Practice OI - outcome independence. You'll be good either way, so you can't put all your eggs in one basket.
Spin her up (as a plate) and then spin up some more. The last thing you want to be is needy and desperate. You have to truly just not give a shit. There is no 'ONE'. As in bitches don't mean shit. Treat her like the bratty girl that she is. Play, have fun. Do lots of them.
Rollo talks about scarcity mentality. When you believe that it's only her or you come up dry, you then place way too much value on her, when it's really about you. You are the prize. You have to try lots of them to find one that will truly appreciate you. If she doesn't she isn't worth spending time with or on. You have better things to do, other women to tend to.
Haha good points. I like the point about abundance. Tbh I do talk to other women, and she's not the only one lol. Just would be nice now she is single, to hook up before she gets into a relationship again if that makes sense? She's also a bit more innocent/sweeter like myself. Both of us do have fun though. In terms of meeting up, I was wondering whether it's better the first time seeing her (in just under a year) to see her alone versus amongst a group of friends (who I also know). So it sets a precedent or tone that it's fine to meet me solo and I don't want/need to see her with others. I've met her solo once before when she became single (only visited for 2 hrs whilst seeing family here). As for phrasing/asking, I just meant to be clear to women so they understand you mean you're saying let's catchup just the two of you. You seem to be more experienced in that, so wondering if you can suggest the words that makes it clear or if asked how to deflect group things unless you think th
that's ok to do? As for outcome independence sure. May I ask, why do they text you (initiate) ask you how you are, then blank your response? I mean I've had other women do this and texted. Some women, they text back and apologize for being late. This woman is different, I know her, and she seems to be well excited when texting me (she comes online when I'm texting her back). But I noted that recently she did the same thing (is it some single text game they play lol) - she texted me when she landed which is good right? Then a few days later, she texted me to ask how my work trip was. When I replied about 2hrs later when i was free and asked her how she was doing, I can see she read it a bit later, and has not replied. Bit weird? She has in the past mentioned when she gets back means we'll see each other a lot. And seemed to be excited (e. g. texted me when landing?) What do you think? And can you clarify what you mean by "plate" please and how to turn her into one?
A 'plate' is someone you see socially, may or may not have sex with, but it's an on-going relationship where you spend time together. It's common for a single man to 'spin several plates'. Some fall off and crash, some fall and then come back, some either of you may want more. It's a way to ensure abundance mentality. I've never really been a plate spinner, although my first wife was a lost case so there were several affairs, the last one ended up being my second wife for the past 23 years. And I've been true to her so the saying 'once a cheater always a cheater' is totally unfounded. All depends on the circumstances. OI or outcome indepence means you really don't care one way or another how it goes, so you're free to act and feel, and respond to her and however it goes you're fine with it either way. This frees you to speak how you really feel, to be able to talk directly, to say what you mean and mean what you say. You don't walk on eggshells, you don't worry if she'll be offended;
or if she'll reject you. So that's why I say just be upfront with saying what you want. It's amzaing what happens when we do that - in most situations, be it relationships, work, friends, parents, etc. So rather than give you word tracks what I'm trying to convey is that if you want to see this girl and her to know that you are interested in her romatically, that you are direct about it. That's why I suggest just inviting her out for some time together - 'let's get coffee and talk' or let's have dinner, I have something important to tell you. Just be direct. And expect the same - if you're not clear what she's trying to convey, just ask for clarification. Women are masters at nuance and they will beat around the bush unless you clarify with them.
Hi, very interesting stuff! Right so I think I get what a plate is now. That's great. Is that possible with girls you already know? In this case I met the potential plate when she had a boyfriend like I said (and we worked together at uni), kept in touch out of just hitting it off - well she kept in touch - despite distance. She is now single and moved back here. Texted me to let me know this a while back and seemed happy to say we would be meeting more. Also texted me when landed. Naturally I want to save any seduction for in person. My crux is that this girl I do actually like. I'm not really in a position in life to date atm - very busy with work, but to hook up would be great. If I can be friends afterward. She's a more innocent girl who does like to have fun too (a bit like me)? As for time together, compared to uni, it's more like day meetups probably. As for telling her, what I mean is, can you be direct about wanting to hook up and be friends after if you've been
complimenting her character versus looks? If you've been yourself and a pretty good guy who is suave? So not the everyday hanging out friend, like a few other guys in the social circle, but someone who does have let's say more exciting/deeper conversations occasionally by text (we only text now and then and she's excited to hear from). I mean this will be the 1st time seeing her for just under a year. So meeting her, can you say let's grab food catch up? And how do you deflect any potential invitees to keep it a vip occasion so to speak? Can women tell you like them in that way? I do understand they're beatign round the bush, what did you make of the texting I mentioned earlier? How to turn her into a plate then?
Thoughts?
Anythingg?
Wtf are you a woman, just blanking lol?
Do you still have questions? I got lost in the thread but something popped in my notifications.
Yeah about the points I responded with to yours haha? Can you read them? I texted her in the end, she seemed very enthusiastic whilst I was abroad asking me when I'm back etc. Having keen chats. Then when I got back texted her, she responded long message asking me how I am, confirming she's doing great in her new place and "hope i can see u soon!". Though when flirted back and in the last line of my text suggested let's grab some food my treat, what's your schedule like?" she has read it and hasn't responded on whtspp for a month now lol, which is very unlike her given she responds immediately. Awkward and I guess it's on her to reply now right , the onus wise? As for her mouth comment, can you clarify whether and how women like you to tell them they have a sexy mouth so they think about giving you head? My other points are above in response to your comment, just check the latest replies?
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Instead of open ended invites, make them closed ended instead, like this, "I'll be at ______ (place) for a bite on _____(date and time) come join me." She will either show, no-show, or suggest a reschedule. If you can't get her interested enough to join you then she's just not that interested. The problem with an open ended question like 'some time' is that there's no impetus to set a date and time. It's better to say, 'are you up for dinner Friday night?' or some such. As far as complimenting a mouth to get her to think about blowing you, not so much. It's kind of weird. Go light on complements 'till you get to know this girl - it just comes off as needy and desperate. Remember, YOU are the prize. And stop with the one-itis - spin up some more, date more, have an attitude of plenty of options. When a guy runs out of options he loses value and attraction to women and comes across as desperate - and they lose respect.
The problem with that is, for a start I specifically did ask her afterwards what her schedule was like. I actually read that as advice on one of those websites/forums. Rather than chase through her schedule by naming a day which she might not be free. There was no reason for her not to respond given she herself mentioned hoping to see me soon. For me soon means soon lol. It was pretty rude of her not to respond to that and then almost a month later text me again and act like she was responding to something I sent only yesterday. 2ndly she texted again about if I'm free when she's visiting the city in the near future. Obviously in this case, I would be if I get to see her alone, so I'm trying to ascertain how to ask that and make it clear (at least for a meal, then any activity can be group). I am the prize, yes. YOU are assuming I'm not seeing other people. I HAVE already met up with a mutual female friend already and other women and texted them, she doesn't know. I'm asking about her?
I would not waste my time trying to pursue someone that is unresponsive. I can't see anything you're missing on this. See if she pops up with any interest and go from there.
I agree I think my texting has been flirty and good given other women respond. BUT I would add she was always hyper fast usually and even before I finish my reply to her long texts she'd open the texting app and start texting me lol. I was actually abroad when she got back to this country, and she was texting me asking when I'm back. Obviously she kept asking about seeing me, yet when I'm back is suddenly flakey. Bearing in mind in all the years I knew her, she never texted me like this with such a delay. What do u make of that and what about Christmas wishes?
As in do I lose anything by not texting her and texting others on Christmas day (i'd feel a bit stupid to do that and I don't want it to be awkward because of me. So far it's all because of her, and the proposed meet by her is in january). But I find it very rude of her she didn't respond to my reply to her. Also it's unlike her with regards to texting me who she is usually f**king fast and always long replies (now it's long, but spaced out).
Right? What do u think?
HELLO? What do u think about what I just said
I would text her holiday wishes if you have them. You're reading too much into everything which is a huge mistake about texting. There is zero emotion or body language to read, so half of the communication is missing. You really just need to go on with your life, being awesome, doing what you like to do. If that includes dropping her a line then do it, otherwise just don't worry about it. Have a great holiday!
I don't think you're reading my points mate lol. I kinda expected more from someone who seemed knowledgable. I already told you, she ALWAYS texted me super fast and is excited, and she herself has been initiating ideas about seeing me soon etc. It's just suddenly a bit dodgy in response times and obviously she's not that busy so it's pretty rude of her. I will continue being awesome and once again I reiterate I'm seeing other friends/girls etc. I am asking you what to do here given she didn't respond to my reply to her question!! It's so awkward and makes no sense/is highly rude of her. So I was wondering given that I normally wouldn't text her unless she responds as she is in the WRONG here, on Christmas, should I text her? I normally would, but feel like it's up to her tbh.
Sorry, sometimes I just don't get the point you're trying to make. Like this text thing - who knows why she's not responding. There could be any number of reasons. That you let it bother shows desperation - shrug it off - remember OI - outcome independence! You really need to not care one way or another. And don't go down this path of 'she's rude' as that will get you nowhere. If you really think she's rude perhaps it's just not a match. For all you know she's turned off by all this back and forth, I know I am and I'm not even a girl and have no personal interest per se. Just trying to help. But seriously, you come across as desperate and needy - a huge turn off to girls. If your attitude is really OI and you're spinning plates, whether she gets back right away or not should not matter in the least. And the Christmas wish - if you have one just send it. How can that hurt anything?
You're not reading mate. HOW could she be turned off by my texts - I just told you she replies fast and texts super long stuff. It's only recently been weird from HER end. I am outcome independent. When she didn't reply, it was rude of HER. I didn't text again until she replied. She can't sense any frustration unless she's telepathic. How am I desperate, I've texted other women and met up as well. You're just insulting me instead of answering my points because you can't read. Christmas wish - the whole point which I have repeated at least 3 times to you (you're not reading it for some reason and just making vague assumptions and generic "needy" statements), is that she didn't reply to my reply to HER question (she texted me a question about meeting up). So it feels awkward to text her when the text screen shows she didn't reply and the onus is on HER to text me. However I guess be the better person and text her then, but she's on her last strike even if she is a friend?
Just don't date those women. Those women are not worth your time.
Yeah point, but it seems lots of nice women do this type of thing. Even: 1. Reading a great guy friend's text - he sees it's read and sees she's been online often enough through her last seen or whatever. No doubt responding to less decent people. And delaying responding to him. 2. Posing like a model with a brash friend and innocent with the handsome great guy friend 3. Some women letting brash guys call them a slut in bed and being dirty from the go. What do you make of the "So" section and the first point if a guy met a girl that way. In the context of uni where he can't avoid her given he works with her. Then after graduating they keep in touch, occasionally meet and text. Then she becomes single. Is he an option given HOW they met and what to do?
Well?
Nothing lol?
Very important that your new man does not know you're sexual past, it can fuck it all up no matter how long u been together..
I probably dumped somewhere around 10 girls i could of married from just knowing their sexual past..
Guys want to think they're the 1st ones..
You dont want to be hitting that shit doggystyle knowing some foo been there already fuck that im straight
Wow is it that serious?
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@samanthaa4life No
@LolaisKey Dead serious
Im ugly
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@LolaisKey it's very serious but the truth always comes out so no use hiding it.
I don't think there is a problem with people having been there before. The point is her not being dirty with a good person (you). Or else acting innocent around great guys in social circle and slutty around the brash social circle elements. What about this: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
I don't think it's so black and white like that
Ya! We are waaaaaay more complicated than that jajajaja
@DancingGirl lol some are
@DancingGirl Well yeah but cite points from the take and explain your view.
lol first, i'm not. I get pretty comfortable with sex when i dated somebody.
Second, so you are basically saying that i have to sleep with my guy friends or any other guys that i friendzoned? Dude... you just can't stand the fact that girls who are not interested in you or have any sexual interested in you friendzoned you!
Because being nice clearly isn't enough. We need to feel the attraction and passion towards each other! And yes, i said "we", not just you!
@FrankieSoThicknLong lol i know some girls would bang their guy friends, but not me. FRIEND IS FRIEND!
Sigh, first, good for you if you don't do it. Second, I don't think you read the take. I never mentioned you have to sleep with every friend. What I said was if you had a charming guy in your social circle who is attractive, it seems odd you would only be innocent to him. In the scenario explained in the "So.." section in the take. You meet at uni when you already have a boyfriend. The guy doesn't voice attraction out of respect. You still know each other years later and you become single. Now at this point, is the guy an option and can he tell you you're hot? Thirdly on your point on being "nice", agreed, but I spoke of "good guys" in the take, those who are witty, funny, charming, confident and also GOOD people, not some brash fake "alphas". Please read the take and my points and provide opinion. I have not been friend zoned by anyone, and I think the term itself is disrespectful to the person you claim to do it to, guy or girl.
What is brash fake alpha. ?
My take owner
@Djaaaaaay Someone pretending they are all that and preaching obvious things like "You have to be confident". Most of these guys act like tools and aren't good to anyone, let alone women. They'll completely objectify her, never text her anything sweet, and often speak in broken sentences of barely comprehensible colloquial language in terms like "brah" etc. They maybe hit the gym to have some muscle, but are no brad pitt. They're more like the troll from the harry potter films, clumsy and easily toppled over.
Ok. Yea. I got it !! True on that , first of all though , concerning your take and its question , you'll never get a true true answer to it from the females. There's a reason for this. Just as there's a reason a good guy calls himself a good guy. The real question is what's a good guy? And why would a good guy be experiencing such dieversity in this paticular segment? What does a bad boy have to offer her vrs good guy? Even just momentarily it takes a bad girl to be attracted to a bad boy. what do bad boys lack in comparison to a good guy? Can a good guy take all of his greatest qualities and be that bad boy also? The answer to this quariam is depending on your character trait you posses , you can be a good guy and bad boy all in one , but a woman will never tell you how to achieve this.
@Djaaaaaay Oh I thought I defined good guy, my bad. Here is a great/good guy: " GREAT GUY is "someone confident, charming, makes her laugh, a little flirty, sends her sweet texts, shows he cares, might be a little nervous, treats her with respect and kindness, might be a little sweet, a gentle and suave guy. He might also be a friend " A great guy won't be interested in her just for her looks, but he can't help being attracted to her looks AND her personality. If they are friends, they may not be each others' final one, so can they not sleep together, have fun and still be friends? Why won't they tell?
@Djaaaaaay What about Ok let's define a GREAT GUY as "someone confident, charming, makes her laugh, a little flirty, sends her sweet texts, shows he cares, might be a little nervous, treats her with respect and kindness, might be a little sweet, a gentle and suave guy. He might also be a friend " Now I agree a great guy won't be interested in her just for her looks, but he can't help being attracted to her looks AND her personality. If they are friends, they may not be each others' final one, so can they not sleep together, have fun and still be friends?
@Djaaaaaay Sorry I meant this, what about this: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
rachel1112 Sigh, first, good for you if you don't do it. Second, I don't think you read the take. I never mentioned you have to sleep with every friend. What I said was if you had a charming guy in your social circle who is attractive, it seems odd you would only be innocent to him. In the scenario explained in the "So.." section in the take. You meet at uni when you already have a boyfriend. The guy doesn't voice attraction out of respect. You still know each other years later and you become single. Now at this point, is the guy an option and can he tell you you're hot? Thirdly on your point on being "nice", agreed, but I spoke of "good guys" in the take, those who are witty, funny, charming, confident and also GOOD people, not some brash fake "alphas". Please read the take and my points and provide opinion. I have not been friend zoned by anyone, and I think the term itself is disrespectful to the person you claim to do it to, guy or girl.
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i was serious about every relationship i've ever had that had any kind of sexualness. serious as in i wanted to commit and hoped they would.
Fair enough. Why do you think someone would not be fully sexual with a guy who is sweet and act innocent? Versus the brash guy? Assuming both of them are in her social circle and both of them are attractive (maybe the sweeter guy is more attractive)?
self-sabotage?
Yeah that's the only explanation haha!
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Ooof i don't even need to read down to notice all the butthurt going on.
What? Ok separate question: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
It the comments there is butthurt.
Ok thoughts on my point to you?
To be fair, I compartmentalize women.
There are women I see as, short-term flings, and other I would love to bring home.
But, I do agree on many things. I hate when girls try and become something they never were. For example, when a girl acts all innocent and thoughtful, and holds out for like 3months, when she used to sleep around after 3 hours. I get it people change, but I judge people on their past actions and experiences.
I don't get why though. I wouldn't sleep with a bitchy or attention seeker at all. I've had such women throw themselves at me. I'd only sleep with a nice woman. Whether or not we carry on and make babies is something else entirely. I agree that it's completely wrong to have a double standard. What about this: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Well I have been friends with girls who had partners and when they broke up I was there ready to smash It's called building relationships. Whether or not they lead to sex.
Yes this is what I want! So I have built up rapport. So how do I do what you're doing now she is moving back? Firstly how/should I meet her solo versus in a friend catchup group thing when she returns soon? How do you phrase that by text and how do you progress to das smashing? Especially if she is innocent? Also there is commuting involved by the way, so have to plan to meet up?
I would see if she would be interested to meet up alone, but after her catch up group thing. At the thing, try to be very sociable, polite, and impress her friends. At the same time show her attention. The next day, send her message how you enjoyed catching up and would love to meet up sometime with her, and maybe grab some lunch or dinner etc Once you meet up, be flirty and see how she responds. Try and make physical contact with her, put your arm around her, link arms, hold hands. If she responds positively to this, you can try and kiss her, keep going until you feel like she might feel uncomfortable. It might take a few dates by the way to really end up in bed with her. Girls aren't rocket science, at the end of the day, they just want to have fun! Especially around your age group. If they are single, they are probably really looking for relationships, not just hook ups. Fun, relationships. Prove you can be fun, while in a relationship! GOOD LUCK
I see! The problem is does going to the group thing set the right precedent given that you probably won't see her that often (but more often now she's not abroad)? Should you attend it or decline and deflect to a solo meet? As I thought I said, whilst I would love to date her, my logistics are hard atm, startup from home and taking care of folks, so I can't really date anyone atm. So how would you proceed given these clarifications and questions?
It sets the right precedent for sure. Be social, make her friends like you. Try to meet up solo, in the near future. Sometimes life gets in the way, but I would try to get a date within 2 weeks of her catch up group thing. And of course, text and call in between.
Yeah but her friends are also my mutual acquaintances. Does it set the right precedent to meet her in a group or do you harm yourself doing that? Like I said my logistics make it hard to meet that often. I can't see how she'd want to catch up again after seeing me 2 weeks earlier in a group lol! Isn't solo better? And how do you decline a group thing and request to have a meal solo?
I am telling you Going to the group thing is a really good thing But if you really want to meet alone, message her that you can't make it to the group thing and ask if she would like to meet up sometime later
Right. What about going to meet her later in the day when she is meeting the others? When you say group is good, I have mixed thoughts. I mean yeah I want to see her and you can have fun in a group. But then you get diluted and sometimes group things can become girly/formal? E. g. teas/coffees. Explain
How would you actually phrase the text for solo as well?
Going to the group thing shows effort. It also shows the ability to socialize. If you play your cards right, and her friends like you, you are almost in. Yeah you might have to put up with some girly bullshit but that's life. Example: hey Diane I am sorry, but I can't make it to dinner Thursday. I would love to meet up sometime soon though, what works for you? Example 2: Hi Jessica, I already made plans for this Friday, sorry I can't meet up for dinner (referring to the group thing here) but, I am free the rest of the weekend, Maybe we can meet up then? Let me know and have fun Friday
Hi, I get it shows effort, she's always thanked me for coming out afterward. And her friends are fairly mutual (ok maybe closer to her than me) and I think at least already like me lol. I mean I've put up with that in the past. Tbh what bugs me more is the constant time changing and there's also 1 person who ruins the mood tbh. It's just I'd be worried how I'd "catch up" with her if we've just met in a group. And whether it sets the right precedent for the "first time" we are meeting in a long time. Right I like that "sorry I can't make it text." Finally some wise words man! Ok so is the first example clear to her that I mean solo still? The second example, it's the type of thing I'd use, to tell her to have fun, it's just I'm unsure how to make it clear I mean meeting her solo. See in the past she had a boyfriend, so naturally it went to group meets for the reschedule anyhow. The last time, I stuck to meeting her after
she met others in the day (tbh other people kept changing times, I stuck to one and ended up being the only one left for that slot). She was only visiting one day, and that was when I found out she was single. Pretty nervous, but had a great time alone for a change. Now she is still single, moving back a yr later, and I'd just like to do the same thing again. If she's only in that city for a day (I still have to commute), should I meet her that day and how do you avoid meeting her the same time as others? Or should I attempt to commute to her city (further away for me) which I know less about? And how'd you phrase in each case?
I am on my break right now, so when i get out, I will give you a better answer For now, I say wing it! just go for it
Any thoughts
Did you meet up with her yet?
She's not back yet. I'm asking for advice on responding to any invite, how to welcome her back (by text) and decline/deflect any group thing. And how to ask her to meet 1 on 1. Also I'll be away for a short period for a work trip, so will be away for about a week - she's arriving here this evening? How do you play it?
I would send her a welcome back message, tell her I would like to meet up after my work trip and catch up
Ironically and unexpectedly she texted me just a short while ago that she landed! I was pretty elated when I saw it a few hours after. But when I replied, I note she read it about 30 mins alter and hasn't responded sigh. I mean I said welcome back, I didn't mention meeting up, since I'm off on a work trip for short while (which she knows about). Was hoping to talk about catching up when I'm back? How do you decline any group invite if it comes before then? Secondly how do you phrase the 1 on 1 invitation and decline/defer any others joining us politely?
Erm?
Anything
Bro you just need to go for it Ask her out
I'm not really in a position to date regularly. But now she's back I guess we can meet up more often. I want to set a tone that we can meet up solo versus with others, I don't want her to think I need others to be there? Should I wait for her to contact me first to create some want and avoid any clashing with her seeing others/sadness at having left the country she emigrated to orginially?
Thoughts pls
For the EXACT same reason men are only sexual with women who aren't long-term material.
That's not true... at all.
It is for a large majority (I've found) and especially for me. Hypothetically, I wouldn't even dream of doing one night stand with a man I would be dying to marry/be in a relationship. A man I'm not particularly enamored/in love with would fall into a night stand category (If I were that type of woman). Slutty women don't count because they'll sleep with anything.
Yep this.
@AleDeEurope AGREED. This is not true at all. Good guys will be sexual with all women and give their BEST to a good girl who is nice and sweet.
The problem is women acting really innocent around a good guy (even a good guy social circle) and poses like a model with a brash guy (even a brash guy in social circle) which sends the complete wrong message to the good guy if you are indeed attracted to him
If she's posing like a model around the brash guy she's turned on by him. If she's being innocent around the nice guy she is trying to seduce him.
Interesting pls explain? So the brash guy thing, she posed like a model with 4 other girls around him (a group shot). With the great guy, she posed in group shots, but also alone with him arms round waist and more innocent. Explain the seducing him you mentioned?
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Adriana, incorrect. Only douche men are like that. Good men don't play games like this.
Let me simplify it for you.
Hookups: They want a guy who will fuck them good and leave without them asking
Long term: They want a guy who will fuck and spoil but will stay without them asking.
You mean every long term guy suck in bed? lol
@YourFutureEx Where did I say that?
@YourFutureEx What a silly point. He never said that!
Ok but what about in the context of a social circle where a brash guy would have her behaving less innocently versus the great guy? And this pls: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Dude, I can't follow this story... what?
Basically you are assigned groups in your final year at university for your coursework. I suddenly find myself in a group with a really hot girl who I've never seen before. Well when I say hot, she's cute. Can't avoid her nor help that I hit it off with her. She has a boyfriend tho. compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. She became single a year ago. She's never called him the word friend by the way. Having emigrated, she is returning very soon to this country again. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE LOL? I don't see how I can be clearer. Now how is he perceived and what can he do? Can sex or something more happen and still be friends?
Between the ex and girl. Yeah girls have that tendency, they go back and have sex with their ex at every opportunity. Girls never really forget guys.
Er wtf? Did you even read my question to you
Why How does a guy hook up with a sweet female friend who's become single for a year and just moved back near him
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Real men know to unleash all her inabitions gradually. With new reproach and inivative ideas. Heighten and showcase each individual one into a new development.
Ok, erm thanks for that. But not sure it addressed my question. Let me pick your brain: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
First of all , you can only be a vessel in her life , for her to continue her journey. Secondly , if you really want her , you'll have to (take ) her your self. Go to her and bring her home with you. All the while though , allowing her to just be herself , with you in the picture. She won't show you validity towards your love , though you might expect it from her. Just make it happen !!
Dude this just sounds like some promo for a film lol or HR spiel. Give me actual concrete examples of what to do. Saying things like "continue in her journey" and "take her for yourself", anyone can say that. That's obvious right? What do I actually physically do.
But not just anyone will try. If this obvious then what's the problem. I don't have any of theses problems myself and never have , even now I'm set. Stop thinking attraction it's self will owe you a nice girl cause it doesn't work that way. You want , you capture. I am a Alpha 100% and I'm developing a way of reality for you. Keep asking me though I would love to try and help !!
I get that you are and I appreciate that! You do seem to be very eloquent, reminds me of myself haha which girls seem to like right? I mean I have this girl who admires me and I'd like to try and well, convey attraction at the very least. Here's the info: Let's say as the woman she has a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT CAN I DO AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
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Dimmu, I agree with Stacy and don't understand your last sentence. But I couldn't follow you because my answers too long. Stacy is correct and you, well I don't understand your last sentence. If we stay the same we don't mature we do not grow and we do not learn. Our approach to men certainly changes over time and I see it myself. Not bragging I am for cooler far more mature far more sexual than the giggly 16-year-old I used to be. If you look at some of the attitudes of the guys on this website you can readily understand why some of us are hesitant to go far out sexually and then be ridiculed by the supposed decent guys. I'm 25 I am not looking for a husband. I will long way to go in school before I'm ready to settle down. I therefore think I'm a perfect example of how I approach sexual relations with men. And I believe I am no different than the vast majority of intelligent mature women. Here goes. If I am attracted to a guy to the extent that sexual relations are going to occur and I know it then it doesn't matter if it's the first date of the 20th date I go all out. Because that's what I want! I repeat that, because that's what I want, not what he wants and not what is expected of me. I don't hold back because he's a nice guy. In the first place I wouldn't be fucking him if he wasn't a nice guy. So the ass hole gets none of me. And I want none of him!
So now the question comes down to if I don't think he's long-term do I change what I do. I do not believe that I change nor do I believe any woman changes depending on the guy. Sex is best done by two people, not one. Since I am not looking for a long-term relationship like marriage I am not in the habit of judging guys for what will they mean in 45 years. Remember everything I'm saying I believe applies to most women. I do not believe that the college-educated intelligent woman puts men into various mailboxes. Mailbox number one is sex uncontrollable, mailbox number two is sex with no emotion etc. etc. we do what we feel like doing. That is the difference between men and women in my opinion.
Sex is not just a mechanical thing. It's fun it's enjoyable it's stress relief but there is an emotional component and that is unique to women. Guys eventually get there I hope but for women that component is present all the time. It is that emotional component that you were complaining about. You may call me a slut and perhaps I am but I am an emotional slut. It is that feeling you cannot disregard in a woman. I will That is the difference between men and women in my opinion. Sex is not just a mechanical thing. It's fun it's enjoyable it's stress relief but there is an emotional component and that is unique to women. Guys eventually get there I hope but for women that component is present all the time. It is that emotional component that you were complaining about. You may call me a slut and perhaps I am but I am an emotional slut.
It is that feeling you cannot disregard in a woman. I will hang from the chandeliers if the emotion is there. I may not even know it until I see myself ha hanging from the chandelier. And it has nothing to do with long-term or short-term or potential husband. It has to do with the guy and what he does for me at that time. I rest my case
Excellent reply. Where have you been all my life Frenchy haha? The point I make though is decent guys are by definition decent guys. Someone who pretends to be isn't decent. So in this case, I'm talking about the more decent guys in your social circle versus the brash ones in a social circle. So both guys are guys you know. The first is really uplifting, and as well as being attractive (maybe more so than the brash guy) is sweet, a gentleman etc. The brash one is more of a social media objectifier, in your face, and not anywhere near as sweet, eloquent or good. Even the good guy, why do you assume he has to be a boyfriend. Who is to say he doesn't want the same things as you, to have fun? As a good guy, I'd much rather have fun with a nice sweet girl I know. In fact, I don't want to be with bitchy attention seekers (the equivalent of the brash guy) or people I don't find as sweet. I would be my total dirty self and show affection to the sweet girl.
Yet a lot of sweet women send mixed messages and give no signal to the good elements of their social circle, by acting more innocent around them. Whereas they might pose like models with the brash guy (along with other girls). It's hard for the good guy to judge how to flirt/be sexual with her. Just because someone has long term qualities, doesn't mean you have to have a relationship or they are the person you marry end of story. Surely you can have fun with such people, still stay friends and marry other good people - you know when you finally find someone you don't want to be with anyone else. Explain your mailbox analogy I didn't get it. I agree on sex being about connection. like I said, my nice female friend, I find her hot and feel connected. To be sexual with her is the dream. But how do I know what she wants and what to do. Explain thoughts
Well first of all my mail box analogy is categorizing every guy and putting him in a special category like you would put letters in mailboxes rather putting guys Pacific categories this is the mailbox of good in bed this is the mailbox of nice for long-term etc. where have I been on your life I've been looking for you but your anonymous and very difficult to find. I've got one on you and I'll tell you. You say you really are attracted to this girl and she's a great friend and you'd like to have sex with her. If you don't act on anything you will never find out. You're the dumb one in this case. What do you want her to do jump on you and say please fuck me? No matter what we say no matter how long we write it boils down to one fact women are not supposed to look or act aggressive because that is what opinion age guys. If you approach me and I want to be with you I'll let you now but if you don't approach me you will never find out
The take is separate from the question I'm asking you. Yeah but I don't think you read that question as what you're saying is about generic people who meet for the first time. It's not some girl who doesn't know I exist. It is a girl I met when she had a boyfriend (who you couldn't avoid) and have kept in touch as friends (not besties, but close friends despite distance). They are going to be living closer soon having moved back to this country. In addition, they are now SINGLE. I can't really date atm, but would love to lose virginity to her, be intimate and be closer friends. But also want to be friends in the future. Now explain precisely how I am meant to do that politely and still being a good guy?
Anything?
Can u help www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2161490-can-you-explain-this-girl-s-behaviour-sexually-in-life-see-refer-to
It's simple, if you don't want to put up with her shit there will be someone else that will.
Hell 2dai we had a talk about why that 1 guy doesn't join the teamspeak server. You know what the leader told me? Dat dood was once there but long time not cause his wife doesn't want him to talk with other people.
Dood I would instantly drop such a wife/girl
OK what if she's a friend, like in the So section. She has only slept with her boyfriend, tho she does the poses with the brash guys. Can the guy in point 1 be perceived well and how?
dahell, if you want her to do you hard get wild on you you tell her that its the stuff you like and if she doesn't like that you tap that untill you feel like what she's giving is not enough
Let me clarify: a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN? Pls explain HOW
so they are together now? that prince and the girl? or what do you want to tell me
I'm asking, what the guy should do in this situation and how he's perceived by the girl now she is single
well he is gonna ask her out cause he wants it. she will either say yes or no depending on if she feels attracted to him or not.
Argh but HOW. Given you know her and wouldn't want to lose her
there is no how as far as I think, I am not a scientist on this so if I was the guy I would just try my luck
Ok mate, good point, can u check this out www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30669-do-women-have-dirtier-sex-with-guys-who-don-t-care-about-them-what
Think about this: because you are worrying about the type of sex you might not get from a woman, you are getting absolutely NO sex from a woman.
Are you just pasting some quote down? Did you actually READ the take lol?
You can;t base your personality on appealing to the complicated thought [processes of women. You just have to fulfill your own desires. That's why you have them.
Yes but it's hard if you're essentially interacting with the proverbial wall of women behaving innocent to you just because you happen to be decent to them. Cite the take and explain your point. And the So section point 1?
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Huh, well now I'm starting to wish I could show this article to a the girls who neglected me for not fitting into some social norm or stereotype, but then I'm sure I would get cursed out. Logic.
Please do, and to ALL FLAKY friends. It seems like the best way to have a girl attracted to you is to bang her friends. Seriously tho what about this: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
The amount of questions in this myTake are too damn high... Why not ask question (s) instead of writing a women-bashing myTake
It's not women bashing. If anything it i fake alpha bashing. I think you answered your own point. For a start you haven't answered any of my questions here. And have you seen people responding on this site? They just post rubbish which isn't anything to do with your question. If you call them up on it, they have no shame and block you. It's an utter waste of time. Pls help me out on point 1 of the So section