Are women dirty with all men or do they do things with some sexual partners they wouldn't with others - e.g. anyone who has good traits like being a long term friend or boyfriend material?
If a girl did particular sex acts in the past with others, enjoyed those things just fine, but with you she wants a different kind of relationship? Those past relationships were fun, sexual, kinky, non-serious, and she wanted to get that out of her system, but now with someone who is kinder, sweeter and a great confident good guy, why not you?
She gave her full sexuality to someone less good and is giving a mere portion of that to you?
UNDER THE GUISE OF COMPLIMENTING YOU?
How is acting more innocent versus more suggestive a compliment? It makes little sense that you would open up sexually to a guy who isn't a greater guy?
So you, a better, more loving partner that she cares about more and is more serious about experiences less of her sexuality?
WHY DO WOMEN COMPARTMENTALIZE GUYS?
It boggles us, yet seems to make perfect sense to some women. Every man is a different kind of relationship for a woman, and it seems natural to her to want one kind of relationship with one guy, and a completely different kind of relationship with you???
Why would she not want to be her dirty self with you and enjoy such sex acts as getting a facial, doing it doggy style, having her hair pulled, maybe being tied up and being called a "slut"?
Some might say those sex acts she enjoyed previously or experimented with wouldn’t be enjoyable with you, because she’s having an entirely different relationship experience with you.
We’re smart enough to know that this signifies a lack of respect. But women don’t get that. In a woman’s mind, having a completely different sex life with a brash guy from the past, versus her attractive gentleman is normal?
Isn't it just crazy?
Answer this, and the lightbulb will switch on in your mind:
If you really want a good charming guy, then why do you not give yourself sexually and stop acting innocent with really great guys?
1. Would a great guy be able to do dirty things with her on day 1?
2. Would her charming guy friend be able to hit on her when she become single (having met her when she had a bf)?
3. Would that guy be able to be kinky with her?
4. Would a brash guy be able to get away with more in bed - e.g. whilst giving him head, can he call her a "dirty slut" and it's fine, whereas the other guy can't?
5. How can you justify the paradox of "he doesn't show interest" when he's being good and he's being too sexual if he states he finds you attractive? Yet a brash guy who isn't long term friend or boyfriend material can do anything they want? Then at the end you expect a good guy who has been essentially punished to not want to experiment or have sex with others???
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS BOYFRIEND MATERIAL DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO boyfriend THEM
You meet countless people in life. But given all the mind games women play on decent men, essentially you have a situation where great sex is not had amongst great men and women. You seem to think "men will lose respect for you if you act less innocent". That's total BS. A good friend would still be your friend after you sleep together. The great guy you sleep with after a first date will feel relaxed that you are a sexual woman and not someone who plays games.
Why then do you open up so quickly to a brash guy who isn't kind, doesn't text sweet stuff and isn't someone who you could know for a long time?
You can have a far better sexual experience with a great guy friend than a brash friend or stranger
Often decent men are far far better in bed than some brash guy who has to peacock himself out of insecurity in a compensating manner
IS SEX REALLY THAT CHEAP TO YOU?
It seems perverse you'd think that brash guys would be better in bed when a connecting experience with someone who is hot and decent would be a truly sensual dirty experience.
*** [You may be referred to the 3 star if you post a silly comment!] On top of that, please don't give the alpha guy excuse. Often the true alphas are good men. Not someone who posts a picture of himself surrounded by many women and posts spiel about how you need to be "confident" and "have game". Oh what knowledge! As if everyone on earth doesn't already know that! Most of the people who post that are nothing more than jerks who have no success with women or many friends for that matter. Don't let them get to you guys or girls.
Is it true though that some women simply subconsciously get turned on by guys who don't give a damn about them in the bedroom? Cos a decent guy would go to town to make it about her and thereby increase both of their pleasure. Often brash guys simply go in to the bedroom in what is assisted jerking off, where the female is there purely for his pleasure.
So do women get turned on sucking off a (fake) alpha's D? Can the brash guy get away with saying more degrading things?
Why do a lot of women label people (especially guys) into categories?
Frankly, if you're a friend, anything is possible when the following criteria are met. You are single. I am single. That's it.
So.......
1. If I met you when you had a boyfriend. Then you're single. I would consider you dateable if you are attractive and a really nice girl. But what would you think of me if we met like that in a context where we keep in touch in a social circle?
2. If you met me when I was taken and then I become single, likewise, at that point, anything can happen.
3. If you are taken, I am taken or both of us are, then obviously then you're not an option. (No cheating)
4. I do not label people as "just friends" that can never be anything more.
5. I don't label people as "hook up material" or "girlfriend material".
Personally the best kinky sex and the best sex would be with a really great girl who is nice. So a "girlfriend material" girl to me, having sex within 1 minute doesn't make her any less of a nice girl. It makes her much more of one for being refreshing and not playing games!
I can't see why girls play games with great guys. Especially texting. Ever heard of the girl who text you how you are, you respond, and then silence?
Or your female friend "read" your message on a chat app and didn't reply or replied way later with some BS excuse of being busy (despite her last seen being later than when she read it)? But that's a whole another question!
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33 34Nah, if he ain't long term relationship material he's not getting anything from me.
Good. Your thoughts on the So section?
Because no decent, nice, long term guy would call his girlfriend a "dirty slut" lol.
Well that was just one example. I'm not sure about that, you might try it out or else use dirty girl then. But the point is mainly about them acting innocent around you and more "slutty" around brash elements of the social circle, guys who are less caring to her and less sweet texts etc. Can you help me out on this: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Pretty simple. Women and men are very much simple. When women want to fuck they want men they are physically attracted to and who will give them a good dicking. Women look for traits in men and body indicators such as tatoos to determine if said male suits this purpose. Similar to how men will look for tongue piercings, and trashy tatoos to determine if a girl is good for fucking for ONS.
So a guy like this would fuck them good. Make them cum several times and they'll love every minute of their dick inside him.
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He has all the physical traits that gets them off. Similarly, men would fuck a girl like this for ONS
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However, a dual nature exist in both sexes for LTR. In LTR, physical attraction is not top priority. Other traits such come into play. For men it's things like loyalty, would she make a good mother, integrity, trust and so forth. For women provider capability, loyalty, willingness to commit etc comes into play.
In such a case while yes a woman will need to be physically attracted to you the bar is raised much lower for such men for LTR.
So a guy like this would be deemed acceptable provided his personality and other traits a woman is looking for in LTR adds up
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However, the double edge of this is since the more physically attracted you are to someone the more you would want to have sex with them, a man who ends up in LTR category gets less sex. Tinder studies from last year showed sex for LTR is more tamed compared to one night stand. As One night stand sex often very much come closer to pornstar style sex. It's animalistic, mechanical and without emotion and just pure lust and sexual energy flowing.
Relationship sex tend to be more tamed, loving and both parties are in the moment while they are having sex and able to laugh at awkardness that arises.
*So a guy like this would fuck them good. Make them cum several times and they'll love every minute of his dick inside them.
Nice try but blacks ate 3rd least desired by woman including my self.. On another note sex craving for most woman comes from how a guy talks to her and how he looks comes 2nd..
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@LolaisKey Yeah this whole personality is more important than looks for women does not sync up with reality. It may apply to you but majority of women are just as visual as men.
Ew not black.. lol ugly.. White or Latino <3
A cute face is a good start not a monkey face.. Anybody can get in shape yet the ones who get laid are those who know how to get a girl wet by talking.. I see a lot of hot guys at the Jim & not a sinlge one turns me on.. It takes more
Had you put me i that spot instead of that black dude these girls would have agreed ayee..
@FrankieSoThicknLong Wow really? You're cute but not that cute to be all like that talking
@LolaisKey Yeah anyone can get in shape but it takes a strong mind to actually go about it. The whole anyone can get a nice body are often parroted by people who do not work out or have no idea. It takes dedication, mental will, and of course genetics to determine what kind of body you can get. Hence, why you'll find very few guys and girls with bodies like this in US.
@FrankieSoThicknLong Girls say a lot of shit dude. The imporant thing to know about life. 1. Women do not know WTF they want. Women say they'll never date a black guy or call a guy not her type online and then when meeting in person they do the complete opposite. Similar to how they list out they just want a nice guy but go for assholes in real lfie.
With this big ass dick hoes just keep coming ayyee lol jk its actually a deal breaker sometimes.. Bro you dont really need a body like that. Most of these hoes go for a cute face or a nice body one of the 2.. Then most importantly if you can spit the right lines its a wrap.. And then on to the next hoe hoe
@FrankieSoThicknLong tinder studies say otherwise.
I dunno, personally I would not be up for having any sex with that woman you posted. I'd rather bang someone hot and nice e. g. your jessica alba's of the world. I think you might have some point but only to further prove the take. Read the *** section, this isn't about fake alphas. Personally I don't think that guy you posted is the guy people look at. He's no brad pitt fight club physique. Often a great good guy will look like brad pitt but have her appearing innocent to him. WHY? Can a good guy not have pornstar sex? Because not every nice girl you meet you wanna marry. So why not have fun with nice people? Help me out on this pls...
Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Just lol mytake owner if you think women would not get pipe by him.
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Dude what you're talking about has nothing to do with what I'm asking. Are you actually willing to try and help lol?
My take owner: This guy is too ugly. Women aren't attracted to that. Present you with counter evidence of women willing to fly thousands of miles to get dicked down by muscular black males. Questions?
I can see that despite what seemed like an initial decent post, you aren't reading my responses, my take or trying to actually help me on my actual questions? If you don't want to help, the *** section applies. If you do, then pls see this: Let's say you have a great handsome and flirty, witty and fun guy who makes her laugh and she admires. But he meets her when she has a boyfriend whilst working with her at uni (can't avoid her). They hit it off naturally and he uplifts her. He compliments her qualities, but out respect doesn't say she is hot etc. Keep in touch after graduating by meeting up and texting now and again despite distance. Not besties by the way, but they have a sweet text/closeness about them. Years later she becomes single and is also moving back to his country? WHAT AND HOW CAN IT HAPPEN?
Well this question requires more data: 1. Does the woman ever initiate convo back or does the man message first 2. From what i've gathered most women even with boyfriend will fuck a guy they really, really lust for because it's a forbidden fruit kind of thing. if she doesn't even hint or give you an opening to do this then chances are she sees you as another backup boyfriend. Studies done show some women are actually more in love with the backup boyfriend then the actual boyfriend. 3. Guys who aren't LTR material (i.. e. the fling guy) would not have hesitated to tap that ass if she gave even the slightest of openings. Women will put on a little bit of defense to not feel like sluts but give it up easily if they really want you.
1. Yes she does initiate convo back. Ironically she initiated way more when she had a boyfriend than now though. Of course she had a busy social life (hobby clubs after work) in her other country. She is moving back here now. Also excited to hear from or hear about the man. 2. She's a pretty sweet girl who has only had that 1 boyfriend. I dunno if they had sex, I'm assuming yes, but that's an unknown. She has a hell of a lot of friends/acquaintainces including guys, but pretty sure she hasn't slept with multiple ones and can see on fb she has called them bro or friends. That word has never come up between us. I'm not on fb by the way. The one thing that might be useful is a while back (when she had a bf) she asked me to show her how to do bowl. Why would she? Backup boyfriend, I might be like that given the sweetness of texting (tho I'm not that often in frequency). 3. Yeah you got to also acknowledge that I was less experienced back then and under pressure on my uni course (where we met on final year) CONT
3cont. Tbh I would NOT do anything with someone who has a boyfriend. That's not me. But now she is single right? Now she's moving back I'd like to meet her single. Also what if she invites me to join her amongst other friends? How do you phrase the solo request? I met her solo by luck last time (did not know she was single again till I met her) when she was visiting for 3 hours lol. I'd like to set the right precedent now. Also there is this admiration in the rapport between us. Can you now comment on my points and anything else you need to know?
Anything?
Your point is pretty ridiculous by the way. It doesn't even relate to what I'm saying showing you didn't read.
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1. Would a great guy be able to do dirty things with her on day 1? Depends on your definition of a great guy? in my opinion a great guy wouldn't want to. in my opinion a great person always goes for the bigger picture, the long game.
2. Would her charming guy friend be able to hit on her when she become single (having met her when she had a bf)? Sure he can hit on her, can't promice it would go anywhere unless she was interested and their was a decent level of chemistry.
3. Would that guy be able to be kinky with her? The great guy? Definitely... he'd make her earn it and he'd try to earn it as well... over time. Emotional then Physical for the win!
4. Would a brash guy be able to get away with more in bed - e. g. whilst giving him head, can he call her a "dirty slut" and it's fine, whereas the other guy can't? The other guy could but then I wouldn't be so quick to call him a Great guy if that's his first thought when he's finally able to be intimate with the girl he's into.
5. How can you justify the paradox of "he doesn't show interest" when he's being good and he's being too sexual if he states he finds you attractive? Yet a brash guy who isn't long term friend or boyfriend material can do anything they want? Then at the end you expect a good guy who has been essentially punished to not want to experiment or have sex with others?
Stating someone is attractive is not being too sexual. in my opinion, it's usually the opposite. Saying things doesn't matter much... it's what your putting out there... your presence, your prosona, the way you look at her, the way you make her feel... what you put out, you get back.
1. If I met you when you had a boyfriend. Then you're single. I would consider you dateable if you are attractive and a really nice girl. But what would you think of me if we met like that in a context where we keep in touch in a social circle? If I became good friends with you while in a relationship I'd never see you as more then a friend unless we kept the friendship very casual. I wouldn't get too close to soemone I was interested in while with someone else. in my opinion it's wrong.
2. If you met me when I was taken and then I become single, likewise, at that point, anything can happen.
3. If you are taken, I am taken or both of us are, then obviously then you're not an option. (No cheating)
4. I do not label people as "just friends" that can never be anything more.
5. I don't label people as "hook up material" or "girlfriend material".
I'll call the first a1-5 and the second b1-5. b2. If we became friends while you were in a relationship I wouldn't see you as boyfriend material (but that may be just me) I'd see you as a friend or a possible hookup depending. Boyfriend material would not become friends with someone they were potentially into, not on any real level any way, when they were with someone else. Not good boyfriend material anyway. b3 if we were both in a relationship and then both single you'd have more of a chance of me being able to see you in the same light even if we were good friends. You were safe to become friends with and so was I. if I was single or you were and the other was in a relationship it's unappropiate and disrespectful to get to close to someone you could be attracted to while with someone else. It's playing with a flame.
b4. I do label people as "just friends" I don't see a potential relationship with most people. There must be attraction, chemistry and compatability. Simply being a good friend or a good person doesn't make one someones type. b5. The game gets easier when you do, when you see somebody for what they are capable of and not expecting more or.
What a fantastic opinion, I love it! Firstly thank you for actually responding to the points and having actually read the take and providing a balanced response. I shall respond to your excellently labelled bullet points :D 1. Ok let's define a GREAT GUY as "someone confident, charming, makes her laugh, a little flirty, sends her sweet texts, shows he cares, might be a little nervous, treats her with respect and kindness, might be a little sweet, a gentle and suave guy. He might also be a friend " Now I agree a great guy won't be interested in her just for her looks, but he can't help being attracted to her looks AND her personality. If they are friends, they may not be each others' final one, so can they not sleep together, have fun and still be friends? 2. Ok that's a great point, but how would he be perceived. He mainly complimented (genuinely) her character qualities, and didn't hit on her out respect. He uplifts her CONT
and makes her laugh, sends sweet texts. They have stayed in touch after graduating. Does she know he fancies her? How is he perceived and what can he do now she is single? Define chemistry? 3. Great! But how would it happen if they are both sweet people? How would either one know what to do to seduce or attract the other if they are both innocent! And what if he is scared to lose her having had her grow on him and he truly values her? So he might not be in a position to date, or fears that dating could lead to not talking if they were to break up. Not to mention if they are not "the ones" for each other, then how can he be friends with her later in life which he'd love? Is sex at least possible to convey he finds her attractive 4. Pls explain, are you saying that a brash guy (either a stranger or a brash friend who isn't doing the things defined in the great guy definition like texts etc) might have her posing like a model and even CONT
the brash guy will be allowed to call her a "dirty slut" and so on in bed? Or would she merely pose and not sleep with him? The great guy would want to be romantic, I guess he'd love to have dirty sex if it means she will think of him highly. A lot of people seem to suggest that kinky sex is what a woman wants and remembers? So can he not enjoy that with her? Personally the great guy would only have sex with nice women and be dirtiest for her or someone even nicer? 5. Ok so how does a guy tell his friend that she is attractive, especially if she has become single and they met a while back when she was taken? If you put out your natural self - a gentleman then how will she respond? Isn't she going to be innocent and what do you suggest to do? FRIEND SECTION 1. I'm not I understand, can you clarify? If I am say a great guy, and you had a boyfriend when I met you, and we hit it off, work together stay in touch after graduating meeting up and texting occasionally despite distance CONT
then if you became single (which you did about say a year ago), then how would I be perceived? And what can happen and HOW? There is a closeness by text and in person it's sweet. I'm a flirty and confident guy, but compliments to you have been personal. How to state physical attraction now? We're not besties by the way, but I think you're special and I dunno what you think, but I hope that it is appreciate given you seem to admire me and have stated such comments before. The word "friend" has never been mentioned between us by the way. 2. Can the two of us sleep together? 3. Can we state our attraction and carry on as normal? 4. Should we state said attraction? 5. What if you really value her, but unlike when she had a boyfriend (when you had a bachelor pad) your logistics make it hard to date anyone right now? THOUGHTS?
Oh any thoughts wise one?
Please any thoughts?
Actually, I'm only sexual when it is long-term. I enjoy being able to have the consistency of someone who I've taken the time to learn about (their body in this case) and vise versa. The relationships I hold never gets sexually boring. And I don't play mind games of any kind, TRUST ME, it's for my own mental sanity and happiness. I don't go out of my way or waste the energy to try to deceive people or play games. I don't want drama in my life. I can't mentally handle it, so I cut out all things that are negative. I'm very direct and blunt and some people don't like that. This is just me, personally.
GOOD! I agree. Trust is important. So in that case, your comments on the So section and point 1, what can a guy do if he meets a sweet girl who is taken at uni. They work together. Becomes relative social circle and stays in touch. He doesn't voice she is hot out of respect. Meet up and text despite distance. Years later she becomes single. How would he be perceived (they are not besties btw). What can he do, is he an option to her from her perspective?