I don’t know but being on tiktok and hearing some grown men talk just Icks me. I’m happy being with someone who doesn’t sound like that. That’s just irritating and makes sex sound Icky. Like imagine shaming women on sex and emphasizing on waiting for marriage like people don’t get divorces. So what happens next would she die?
no hate on anyone waiting. I’m just talking about how they behave
I don't support men "degrading" women. As a rule, I don't call women bitches or hoes or any of those things, not to their face, not behind their back, and not online. I don't think it's productive to use that kind of charged language. Having said that, there IS *some* truth to what some of these guys are saying (and sometimes there isn't - some guys are assholes!). Here's what's really important:
Men and women are DIFFERENT. We have different roles, we have different survival and relationship strategies, and we desire very different things in partners.
Women want good-looking, important, powerful men, and they want men who are ABOVE them - women always want to date up. Is that wrong? Should we change this? CAN we change this? Or is this inherent in what women want, because historically, wanting those things has always been a successful strategy?
Do men want those same things in a woman? NO! Men want a woman who is young, fertile, innocent/inexperienced, has a low body count, and is nurturing, friendly, and cooperative. Notice I made no mention of her education, degrees, career, or income - those things don't provide significant value to men who are looking for a serious relationship partner. And just as with women's desires, these are the desires that men have always had, and what has always been the most successful, and just as with women, these desires are deeply embedded in our instincts and aren't going to change.
Women tell men all the time that he needs to improve - he needs to improve his looks, his fitness, his career, his money, his status, etc. And, at least to some degree, those are valid criticisms. Men DO need to work on those things, especially if they want women to value them.
Just the same, men try to explain to women that sleeping around and running up her body count is REDUCING her value to men who might have considered committing to her. It won't stop men from wanting to SLEEP with her - but women need to understand that men have COMPLETELY DIFFERENT criteria for banging you vs. committing to you in a relationship. A woman can have ZERO value to men as a relationship partner - meaning no man in his right mind would ever commit to her - but that won't stop tons of men from wanting to sleep with her, including those same men who would never commit to her. Your body count doesn't matter to men who just want to bang you, but it's a HUGE factor in whether a man will commit to you.
It seems most women can't grasp this, and even if men try to explain this, most women don't want to hear it - even though it's directly impacting them.
As a woman, you need to separate in your mind the fact that tons of men want to sleep with you (because that means NOTHING relationship-wise), and realize that only a small percent of those men would consider having a relationship with you, and as soon as they figure out your body count is high, most men are going to disengage or downgrade you to "only good for casual sex."
Your BEST chances of finding a QUALITY partner who will marry you is to seek out a marriage-minded man when you are in your early 20s, and he's 3-5 years older, and you both have low body counts. The longer you wait, and the higher your body count, the worse your options will be. That's just the reality of the world.
I can agree with this but my emphasis is more on degrading Women because of sex. It’s hard to explain especially on the Nigerian side of tiktok. It just sounds so icky when the men there talk
Thank you for saying some men you have to understand there's a couple different type of man out there there are the men that hate themselves they hate everybody and they think women are garbage and should be used and abused because that's what happened to them in some form or fashion they will talk to you despicable they are disgusting people and they're trying to make you feel the same thing that they feel you have to click hang up delete block do whatever because that's a negative energy that's trying to take your positive energy do not allow them to even affect you ever stay away from them a good person is going to or a good man is going to understand what a woman goes through who she really is and understand it's none of their business what a woman does they'll keep their opinion to themselves and let life be happy because it's girls happy that's all that matters we don't have to have opinions about everything there's no reason in this world for it all that does is open up drama and b******* and I would rather be drama free so if a girl's doing something it's okay let her do it if she's happy let her do it encourage her to do it so she stays happy not unless you ask for your help then you can give your opinion of how you feel or how you would deal with it but the guys that degrade women are just losers themselves they are so unhappy they will they hate their mothers even
It’s called the double standard. It’s hypocritical misogynistic nonsense. They want to have sex when they want but call women sluts who do the same. I challenge that bullshit every time I hear it.
I don't know, how about not letting people sleep around in general. Hookup culture is mostly damaging women while benefiting men. Sex before marriage is also benefiting men mostly. Anything that has to do with free sex or sex without commitment is negative for women and never negative for men. You did it yourself with the let us sleep around movement. But who am I, I'm just using logic and common sense, something modern day people don't seem to have anymore. If you don't want to be called a slut don't sleep with a man until after he commits to you. Don't sleep with guys who are bragging about having slept with lots of women. There is no difference between a male slut and a female slut. If you sleep with him after just a few dates then congrats you just got played. Give him affection instead of sex. Modern women seem to think their only valuable asset is their vagina which is not. You can give so much more to man then sex, which is making him feel like he keeps you save. The more affectionate you are to him the more likely he'll keep you as that means you trust him and that's rare for a man to see. Maybe women should shame men who sleep around too but most women I know would rather line up to sleep with the guy and then wonder why they get ghosted.
@RiseofArtemis Why should anyone be shamed for indulging in a basic human need? This outdated notion of chastity is based in the mythology of religion. There’s no real world significance or logic to it. How about just treating women equally rather questioning why we don’t shame men the same way? We don’t do that because it’s not right and I can’t think of a practical reason to do so. People like sex. So what?
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Those are selfish. There are guys who can and will use women... they have the power..., then go find one who is "conservitive" in values to marry. It makes sense because the problem with women is if they are emotionally messed up, they are hard to deal with. So they choose one that has lesser risk.
Ones complaining though either aren't the ones getting it and are frustrated, or they hold a high standard for behavior and don't like seeing what they view as women being degraded. Generally, I don't think those men would degrade women, but would call them out on the behavior because it can be counter productive in their life... as they perceive it.
There are different people and they can make their own choices. But our society is running out of control with "bad ideas" that fundamentally don't work, but look like good ideas in the short term. There is a downside to freedom...
Tinana I completely agree with you. Sounds like they are hypocrites.
Nature adores a virgin trope, and there is a saying, a man is like a key, a woman is like a lock.
Lmao, do you honestly believe that virgins would want anything to do with men with no self respect? And what happens after waiting for marriage and you get divorced? Well you’re not a virgin anymore and you’d have to move on.
Hos are much more likely to get divorced, men with no self-respect are marrying hos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDaaAI6keSw
Well most men calling women hoes tend to be the hoes themselves
Well males don't usually mock the women they have sex with as being whores. They usually reserve that term for women who refuse to have sex with them.
I think the word you are looking for is "control".
Mocking women for having sex with other males is a way of exerting control over them.
Because a ho talking about sex online is ubiquitous. Put the same movie in front of 1 million people and I guarantee you not all of them will like it. Now, if you were to announce your presence online by questioning the big bang theory, then you'd have a completely different conversation.
Simple: Those men aren't the ones having the sex.
I think the reason is that sex requires some submission of the woman. Regardless of how it happens, the penis is entering her.
I get aroused by humiliating skanks who expose. Nothing personal
That's the way. If someone blames you blame them back.
Hypocrites and asshloles
I don't know why either when if you open your legs they'll just right in some guys are intimidated by women that know what they want and aren't afraid to say it
A lot of men are hypocrites.
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