Why I am tired of hearing about rape and sexual assault allegations where too much alcohol is involved?

Why I am tired of hearing about rape and sexual assault allegations where too much alcohol is involved?

States/cities/governments/colleges pass laws/rules stating that if the girl is too drunk to consent then it’s not consent. Nevermind the fact the boy has been drinking as well. What about him? He was also too drunk to consent.

Here’s the thing: When are we going to start teaching young people basic safety and restraint when it comes to drinking? When are we going to sit people down and say, “Look, after your 5th shot of fireball, you may be in trouble.”

The moronic left and femi-nazis say that “Girls should be able to drink as much as they want and go wherever they want just like the guys can! DOWN WITH THE PATRIARCHY!!”

Well, let me man-splain something to you dumbasses: I’m a 240lbs male that can bench 315lbs, deadlift 500lbs, and I ride a Harley. I’m the epitome of the “bad ass male”.

AND EVEN I DON’T GO WHEREVER I WANT AND DRINK AS MUCH AS I WANT WHENEVER I WANT.

But why? I mean, I’m this totally bad ass dude with a Harley! Some would say I’m a member of the dreaded Patriarchy!! It’s very simple: I care about my safety and the safety of my family.

When I go out for a night on the town I avoid certain bars/clubs/etc. because I know a bad crowd hangs out there. I know the people that hang out there are just looking for trouble. Why would I knowingly put myself in a situation where I could spend the night in jail or get into a disagreement with someone that will just turn into a fight? People that really want to have a good time don’t go to bad places where the trouble makers hang out.

When I go out for a night on the town, I control how much I drink. I don’t want to lose control of any given situation I’m in and I want a clear memory the next day. I want to avoid things like getting a DUI or not remembering what I said to someone. Also, unlike most of you apparently, I am well aware that when I’m a little too drunk I’ll agree to do stupid shit I would otherwise never agree to doing when sober (this is where many of the girls get themselves into trouble).
So, yes, I think we need to re-open the discussion with young people regarding alcohol abuse. I think a lot of these rape/sexual assault allegations would disappear if there were a few kegs less at the party.

If a 240lbs man practices risk management, when why can't a 125lbs girl?

And why aren’t we telling these college jocks that after a few shots they’re going to get into trouble?

Why aren’t we telling young people that there are plenty of fun things to do that don’t involve getting totally sloshed??!!??!!?!!?!?!?

I have a 12 year old little girl. Do you think I’ll be teaching her the femi-nazi way of “you can go where you want and do what you want you are woman it’s time to ROAR!” or do you think I’ll be teaching her risk management and to not hang out with bad crowds?

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  • Yeah, even in a patriarchal society, boys are taught to become responsible.
    Girls want to become as much independent as the boys but they dont want equal amount of responsibilities while going out.

    My mother never allowed me to go out of our home alone at night unless i had valid reasons.

    I understood that it was for my betterment. I never demanded any "freedom" because i knew that i had freedom.

    • There are a lot of women that are willing to take on that equal amount of responsibility. The extra work. The greater demand, especially if it means they're given more choice and treated as humans and equals. Plenty of these women exist. But they are fighting with men in power who don't want them to take on this responsibility. Women are still barred from serving in more dangerous positions in the military. They're highly discouraged from taking on more dangerous jobs. And in spaces where men are dominant, there is a stigma against women and a general unwelcome atmosphere. It takes at least 3 women to be in the same social circle for one to feel comfortable and heard in these environments. The same goes for men. It's been psychologically proven. Women are very much so willing to take on the responsiblity. There's just men who still don't want them to.

    • @SomeOtherGuy agreed

  • No matter what the facts are, if a female is somehow involved in an unfortunate or regrettable sexual encounter with a male, it is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS the male's fault / responsibility. THAT is the gynocentric feminist society in which we live today.

    Sadly, the ONLY women who see the injustice and sexism of all of this are the mothers of boys.

    • Hmm. I consider myself aligned with feminist ideas, under my own scrutiny and checks of course. I can see how an outsider may have that image in their head. I'd challenge that. If two people get drunk, and sex occurs, the conclusion isn't that the guy raped the girl. Though with very little scrutiny or questioning or real searching, you could come to that conclusion from sound-bite arguments and shallow debates. Here's the reality. It's assumed that the man is the one who instigated the sex, not the woman. Why? Because we live in a culture where men are constantly encouraged to be the initiators of sex, and in more severe cases, encouraged to be predatory. Often, this is the case. The male initiated, and the male continued. This can be avoided by pounding it into guys heads not to initiate sex, and to protest to sex, when one or both parties are drunk. We need to make it okay for men to turn down sex.

    • I'd hope this makes sense. If you protest to sex and she continues, then men should also feel comfortable claiming sexual assault or coercion. Unfortunately, we are not yet at an evolved stage of culture where this is an easy path. You have to contribute to society given men more freedom and options to take control of their sexual identity to make that happen. Men need to be comfortable saying no to sex without being called into question for it. Lets flip this, if two men got drunk, and one had sex with the other, isn't this the same logic that would be used to decide who was the assaulter and who was the victim? The same goes for women. The law has to be applicable to all human relationships.

    • @SomeOtherGuy I'm not even going to bother responding to this silliness except to say that it is sooooooooooooooo clear that you are a woman with a blue GAG account. Just spare me.

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  • I agree with you that people need to drink responsibly. But the cold, hard truth is most people are raped by people they thought they could trust - family, friends and intimate partners.

    • true

  • It's only a big topic when it's important to singe election. I am tired of it too because it's just another tactic to get us to hate each other so one party can get more female votes.

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  • Everyone should be taught personal responsibility and risk management.
    Everyone.
    The world has many flaws and dangers. There's awful things that we can prepare for, even if we can't prepare for everything. Accurately calculating risks is important.

    But no one can calculate for everything. No one is perfect. People will take advantage of you, and you may fall for it. Hell, people are falling for it constantly, and in every voting cycle.

    You do the best you can to prepare your little girl for the world.
    You don't need to teach her about feminism. But you do need to teach her to feel empowered and to make sure she's in control of her environment

    But I would hope that you would also teach her that if something bad happens to her and she couldn't control that situation, that it's not her fault.

    it's far more likely someone she knows will take advantage of her, not some stranger in the street.

    What would you tell her if she made a mistake? Who would you blame if she got drunk at 21 and was taken advantage of by the boy she was dating for 3 months?

    Do you tell her it's her fault for being drunk at 21 with a boy she was dating for 3 months?
    Is the boy absolved of what he did cause he was drunk too, even if he was trying to initiate it all night?

    What do you tell her?

    Sometimes it can seem like feminists are resistant to the idea that they must take personal responsibility for poor decisions.

    But think about why that is. Do you think a father is going to blame his daughter for something like what I described? Tell her it was her fault because she put on makeup, wore a cute dress and flats, did her hair, kissed him, and got drunk at a party?

    I don't think I could stomach telling any woman I knew that it was her fault.
    I'd be surprised if you could too.

    So, in all honesty, man to man, what would you tell your daughter if this happened to her?

  • Preach!!🙌

  • Thank Them Dems.:((xxoo

  • Alcohol is intereting.

  • Absolutely agree, I'm 210 with over 40 years of martial arts, I work out regularly and there are places I just don't go. It comes down to situational awareness, it's something that guys learn, and something that girls need to as well. But if you suggest it your the bad guy. I have a good friend who used to teach, and part and parcel to that is teaching self defense to women. And he would get such push back for teaching the same thing he taught his male students to female ones.

    Being safe is your own responsibility, there are antisocial people out there. And not making yourself a victim isn't "patriarchy" it's plain common sense. And yes, it's something that everyone has to deal with, not just women.

  • men are the primary victims of rape.

    Why I am tired of hearing about rape and sexual assault allegations where too much alcohol is involved?
    • This is a fantastic example of feminist "logic".

    • @backdoorman I agree with this.. Is that bad? I mean they're the ones who can't do nothing but watch on.. Could a woman have stopped a war? Hmm.. . . . This messes with my mind too much..

  • Had me until you started blaming the "Left" basic Fact, IF you have sex with a girl with out her permission ( consent) u raped her. No questions.. simple. As a guy, if you look for sex, you have to ask.. period. No arguments, she can't consent, you have sex, you raped her... If you are a guy and a girl seduces you and has sex with you while you are drunk.. make a report, yell rape, if that is what you believe or want. If you were incapacitated and could not say no. she raped you. ( some how I don't see many guys calling the local rape hotline though) .

    The Snow Flake "blame the left, the progressives, the Fems" is a Cop out Trump-world whine.

    Rape is not not political, its not "right winged or left winged" it a crime. PERIOD And its about damned time, people confront this issue and make MEN in general aware that women are not their for their taking. Drunk or sober. and it happens a lot at parties where drinking excessively is all to common. Women are not with out some need modifications. There are assholes, they will pray on girls, , it will always be an issue. Don't be stupid and loose control of yourself, even if you believe you should be able too.. it's just reality..

  • I don't get why it's considered victim blaming to suggest safety precautions. I'm not blaming the victim, I want them to not be a victim.

  • @Iron_Man

    • I don't know i think you should handle this

  • Im tired of hearing about it full stop. The entire Western world is obsessed with uit, well the feminist dominated nations are anyway. It is not the beginning and be all and end all of everything

  • Ok. Sounds weird. I don't know about that stuff.

    • I admire the USA many ways, but this is very weird. Why couldn't drunk people have sex? That unequality sounfs even more weird. I hope they will get it right.

  • This is why I will never drink.

  • some wommen are stupid if they wanna have fun and get drunk be with other wommen ir stat at home simple you can have fun other ways or not accept a drink

  • Is what an attempted raper would say