Why I think the expression "an easy girl" is stupid

[Anonymous]

So men and women both are sexual beings. both like and enjoy sex to an comparable extend.

Why is it then if a girl acts on her desire to have sex, we call her easy? men do it all the time so why is it a bad thing if a girl does it ?

the expression "she´s an easy girl" assumes, that everybody could have sex with her easily, which is of course not true at all. she´s just more likely to have sex with a guy she likes than other girls. that doesn´t mean, she´s not choosing her sexual patners or would even be open for sex with anybody who asks her to have sex.

it also implies, that women don´t want sex by default but with that exceptional "easy" girl, it´s possible to force her to have sex with you ?! that can´t be right. if a person wants sex with you, it is of course not hard for you to have sex with that person "for you". that doesn´t mean that everybody would have it that easy to get sex from the same girl.

you don´t want to have sex as often or think having at least 100 dates or even married before having sex? that´s cool but not everybody thinks like you. your opinion is as valid as their opinion is, that doesn´t make the other person less valuable. it´s just another point of view.

point and case: women who like to be promisquous are not "easy". they are in control and they choose their partners just like anybody else does. they are not like puppets everybody can have sex with.

that´s why i think the term "easy girl" is stupid.

[Bandit74]

I agree

there's no such thing as a girl who is indiscriminately easy. One could even argue that "easy" girls have higher standards. Sure they may not require the guy to put in much effort to get into bed with her but they aren't sleeping with average dudes. They are often having sex with guys who are above average in terms of sex appeal, guys who are arguably somewhat out of their league. I strongly believe girls have higher standards on aexual attraction for casual sex than they do for long-term relationships. For casual sex, guys often trade down, girls trade up.

Its funny tho, guys will often lose interest in girls for being easy for them. Theyll think "she was easy for me that must mean she was easy to get for all her previous partners" and conversely "if she's making me wait (hard to get) that must mean she made all her previous partners wait). In both cases its dumb to assume how she was for you is an accurate indication of how easy she was for other guys.

I think its rare to meet a girl who is 100% consistent on either end of the spectrum. Its rare to meet a girl who is easy to get for every guy she sleeps with but its also rare to meet a girl who is always hard to get for every guy she sleeps with. Its impossible to meet a girl who is easy for every guy she meets, even prostitutes have some criteria. So, A girl might be easy for get for one guy, hard to get for the next guy, and then impossible to get for another. Maybe guy 1 gets sex on the first date, guy 2 has to date her for a month, and then guy 3 gets a firm permanent rejection.

Let use a model as an example, many might see them as unoversially hard to get, but once again it varies depending on the guy/situation. She's impossible to get for the most average joes, but if you're a photographer all it takes to see her naked body is to write her a check. You want to see her topless, in lingerie or naked, all the photographer has to do is pay her. Maybe for a hot celebrity at the club shell have sex on the first date, so she's easy for that guy. However when she wants to settle down with the average looking business man, maybe he has to take her out to fancy restraunts and bond with her for maybe a month before her gets anything, so hard to get for that guy.

Mirander Kerr claimed to have made Orlando Bloom wait 6 months before she even kissed him. However, despite what she might claim, I kinda doubt she was that hard to get with all of her previous partners. 😂

[Bandit74]

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[myTake Owner]

dude that opinion has more text than my freakingtake xD i personally don´t have any less interest in a girl, if she´s "easy" for me to have sex with. i mean that doesn´t mean that every guy gets in her pants that easily. besides: what´s so wrong about having fun as long as you´re safe. stds are a thing but most of the easy to catch ones are easy to treat and the fatal ones are very unlikely to catch even without protection.

[Bandit74]

Lol you're right it is longer 😅

[KawaiiPie67]

Guys who sleep with girls really fast R just as easy. It's a stupid expression, so I agree with U.

[lonerider]

I think women are the ones who created the term "an easy girl" to elevate their self value by diminishing someone else's. Men dont care

[ClassicRocker]

If you want to eliminate such things from our vocabulary women need to, on the whole, become even more "easy".
The day it becomes as easy for me and every other man to go to any bar and get laid almost guaranteed will be the day the so-called "double-standard" of sexual expression disappears.
It is not, in fact, currently a double standard as long as it continues to be more difficult for men to get laid than women.

[KawaiiPie67]

Why do U blame women? Men R the ones not being more picky about who they fuck.

[myTake Owner]

my argument would be: you can go to a bar and have sex now. it´s just just that if you expect that every perfect 10 will want to have sex with a male 5, you sure will be disappointed xD if you want sex now, men as well as women have to lower their standards to get it. men have ab bigger problem with that, cause they are so visual.

[myTake Owner]

@KawaiiPie67 we in fact are picky. just that we don´t care for character, since we´re only going to have sex anyway.

[ClassicRocker]

Since you already went the road of an objective, number-based attractiveness scale I'll explain it to you the same way. If I'm a guy that's a 7 I cannot expect to, on any occasion I please, pick up a woman that is a 9. The reverse is not true for women. A woman that is a 7 can take home a 9 for the night. To summarize rather crudely: Women date up for noncommittal sex, and down for relationships. Men date down for noncommittal sex, and up for relationships. This is why the disparity exists, when that is no longer the case for a majority of men & women you will find that the disparity between the judgement of the sexual expression based on gender will also no longer be the case.

[myTake Owner]

so even if you were correct about this ( i don´t agree but i don´t have the means to prove you wrong) it´s still not a womens fault that she would not like to have sex with a guy who´s clearly more pretty than them. women are less visual. but not all of them are like that and you don´t help anybody if you call those girls "easy" or "sluts".

[ClassicRocker]

No it isn't helpful to call them "sluts" or "easy". I'm just telling you that yes, it is stupid, but not for the reasons you've laid out in the take.

[myTake Owner]

well that´s my opinion :) feel free to make your own take. maybe yours is better.

[ClassicRocker]

I'm just pointing out that when a woman is going out just looking for a lay she's looking for a 9 or a 10, whereas men are just looking for something to put their dicks in and generally have lower standards in such a case.

[myTake Owner]

so basically you´re saying: as a guy it´s harder, therefore it´s legit to call girls "slut" or "easy" as expression of our jealousy? i mean yeah maybe it´s harder for guys but that´s not a legit reason to call girls this.

[ClassicRocker]

No it isn't, but that's the reason men are called "studs". According to my own argument and this is the point I'm trying to make the fact that it's easier for women to get laid means they should see no increase in status from society as a result of sleeping around, but no detriment either. As far as things go in the current status quo, men should be congratulated for getting laid and it should be a neutral experience for women. This is why it's stupid to call them "easy" or "sluts" because it doesn't fit with the logic.

[ClassicRocker]

It's the same reason many people think "lucky dog" when a 16 yr. old male student has sex with an attractive female teacher, but at the same time think "ew creep" when a male teacher has an affair with a 16 yr. old female student.

And the reason you can find articles like this: coed. com/.../www.google.com/webhpurceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=sexiest%20male%20sex%20offenders

Notice how the results just redirect you to the original "sexiest female creeps" results?

[myTake Owner]

yeah fair enough. it´s just a whole other logic though it doesn´t really fit in with my take. it´s a whole other approach.

[ClassicRocker]

Well no it doesn't fit with your take because you were trying to pander to an already existing narrative, while I was just telling the truth and nothing but...

[myTake Owner]

*your opinion not truth. don´t confuse those two.

[ClassicRocker]

You think it's untrue that it's easier for women to find a purely sexual partner of equal or greater attractiveness than it is for men?

[myTake Owner]

no i just don´t agree with deriving the discussed terminology from that factoid.

[ClassicRocker]

The logic isn't that convoluted: 1. It's harder for men to do than women 2. People respect more difficult achievements more than easier ones

[myTake Owner]

so how is it a womans fault, that it´s easier for women to have sex?

[ClassicRocker]

It's not their fault. They shouldn't be disparaged for having sex, but they don't get any trophies either. I'm the market were flooded with tons of "easy" women just like there are tons of "easy" guys the problem would solve itself.

[myTake Owner]

your approach is: women have it easy but they shouldn´t be punished for having it easy. my approach is: just because they want to have sex, doesn´t mean they´ll fuck anybody.

[Jose_R]

So your saying that if women won't holding out for high status men for sex and were less picky for non-commitment sex like men then the idea of "easy" girl would go away because getting sex would be easy for everyone.

[myTake Owner]

@Jose_R no i actually don´t care for status xD but i agree fwith the rest.