Why is it men like to put pressure on pornstars do anal, interracial or sleep with guys who do gay porn?
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I mean a woman gets into porn as a career option and wants autonomy on who she sleeps with. Why is it men feel the need to pressure pornstars to do these things. For example, just look at August Ames. She objected to sleeping with a guy who also does gay porn on the side for fair of not wanting to contract an STD from him and it caused massive uproar among her fans to pressure her into doing it. Needless to say this did not work the way people had hoped and she ended up killing herself via hanging. Now, why is it fans of female pornstars (mostly men) feel the need to control who the performers sleep with?
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rebelsunshineXper 6
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As a bisexual male, I accept that a significant percentage of women prefer not to date bisexual guys, and instead only date guys who are straight. Every so often I meet a girl who is surprised when I mention I've been with guys before, as I always do on one of our first several dates to ensure we're compatible, and many thank me for being forthright early on, including women who immediately lose all romantic interest.
I used to take this very personally and feel hurt by it. Then I realized it works to everyone's ultimate advantage to allow each individual autonomy to set their personal boundaries. I learned to accept myself, and to accept their preferences, regardless of whether those preferences made logical sense or not.
I learned that most women made better friends than they did romantic partners, and viewing them as potential friends made more sense than viewing them as lovers, especially lovers over whom I felt entitled! My sexual desires grouped with those of most women in nearly every circumstance, although my brain processed human beauty in a heterosexual way.
I feel ashamed Ms. Ames was not accorded the same respect for her preferences and boundaries that I once tried to accord to everyone with whom I interacted. She was entitled to her beliefs, right or wrong, rational and fact-based or not. She also had the absolute right to refuse sex with anyone and discriminate however she liked in that regard. Bullying and harassing her (in the name of tolerance, no less) because she was uncomfortable having sex with a bisexual male porn star was a tone-deaf, low-EQ response on behalf of the LGBTQ+ crowd that lacked empathy.
That said, Ms. Ames' ultimately took her own life, not anyone else, and her mental state at the time almost surely obviates her of moral responsibility. It is highly unlikely she fully understood the tragic and permanent consequences of her deadly act at the time she took it.
The LGBTQ+ activists bear some moral responsibility for their lack of empathy as they made no attempt to understand Ms. Aimes' point of view, or figure out why she thought the way she did regarding bisexual men. They merely judged her.
Yet, their judgements and thoughts on the matter did not drive Ms. Aimes insane or force her hand in her suicide. She did that to herself. She had free will, and therefore the ability to choose her own thoughts, but she did not assert control over them.
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Anonymous
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If a girl decides to be a porn star, she is a whore who gets paid more for agreeing to filming of her whore work. If you are a whore, people will come along asking for anal sex, piss or shit in your mouth, want tow watch you fuck a dog, and other variants of sexual behavior. Nobody forces you to do anything that you want to do; you make that decision for yourself based on how much you need the money vs. how offensive the request is.
In this porn star/whore's situation, homosexuals and other freaks pressured her. So fucking what? No one forced her to kill herself and most of us don't want people killing themselves.
Yes, it's tragic, but "men" did not force her to do anything.
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kittycat119Guru
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They didn't say she had to sleep with him. People where pissed she decided to be homophobic and basically say men who do gay por n have STDs which was insanely offensive of her
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kittycat119
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And no one made her kill herself. She choose that herself
ChetAtkins
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Well said. Everyone wants to play the victim these days. "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
kittycat119
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@ChetAtkins she had a right to say she didn't wanna do the scene. But the way she did it was insanely homophobic. And if people where bullying her inline then delete or stop looking at your Twitter. It's not fucking hard. People act like they rather get bullied and kill themselves then get rid of social media
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ChetAtkins
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I don't know anything about her, but I'm shocked her decision was made public. It's obvious that someone was out for revenge. She has the right to do whatever she wants, and that includes getting a job at Walmart.
kittycat119
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@ChetAtkins she made it public by going in Twitter and saying she won't do the scene with the guy cause he did gay porn and implied he would have an STD. So she made it public herself
ChetAtkins
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Ahh, now I get it. She must have suffered a big backlash from the Twitter people, so that's what made her do this. But I still don't like the premise that men are at fault. If her boss was a female, I doubt anything would be different. Money is money, and that's the profession SHE chose. There are female porn producers, and I bet they're tough as nails.
kittycat119
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@ChetAtkins that and no one made her read what rude things people where saying to her. She choose to read them and she choose to let it bother her
ChetAtkins
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I must be the only person on the planet that didn't hear about this. But I once heard a wise person say that NO ONE can offend you, unless you allow yourself to be offended. I know that that concept easier said, than done, but it does ring true. I wish I could harness that wisdom.
OlderAndWiser
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@ChetAtkins Sir, it is my impression that you ARE harnessing the wisdom that can be extracted from your experiences. With the passage of time, you will accrete great understanding, and then you will look at yourself in the mirror and say, "I wish I had been this wise when I was younger."
ChetAtkins
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@OlderAndWiser I truly believe in reincarnation. I'm not religious, but I know that energy can't be created or destroyed in this world. All you can do it transform it from one form to another. But the sucky part, is that you don't get to bring back any wisdom of your past life. You have to start from scratch! Doesn't seem fair. lol It's hard to fathom that we could come back, but there's been some clues.. I read a story once, where a guy fell and hit his head on the toilet! Now he could play the piano. So if that's true.. which phenomena is harder to believe? *He knew how the play the piano in a past life *Hitting your head on the toilet makes you a pianist?
GnarCuteExplorer
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because of the amateur porn videos and pornhub and such, You have to be pretty strict and have people do whats in demand
Lmao bullying people for not doing anal, what a world we live in.
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JohnjohnnyXper 4
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Poor girl, she probably was not against gay people! But gay sex is said to be more (Not my words) and she did not want to risk getting std!
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Mexicoman101Guru
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I don’t know to be honest. Maybe its just like you want them to be involved in scenes you can better relate to. What happened to August Ames was a tragedy though. She was entitled to her opinion and preferences.
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Bandit74Master
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It sounded more like it was SJWs who bullied her, not the typically straight male porn viewer.
Male porn viewers might want female pornstars to do certain sex acts like anal, bondage etc.. but I can't imagine them being too concerned with who the female pornstar works with or if she doesn't want to work with bisexual men.
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Anpu23Guru
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The idea that male actors have any say at all in a porn is wrong. Male actors are treated the worst, are payed very poorly and have absolutely no say. Who you are speaking about are the companies and directors and they are ruthless.
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headoncrashXper 1
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you don't go in porn just to be nude. you know what you are getting into. No one pressures you to do anything. If you feel pressure you leave and get another job.
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AcidT0yYoda
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"Men" had fuck all to do with it. It was the LGBTQXYZETC++%$#/ community (or whatever the current acronym is) who went after her because they were outraged that she didn't want to risk an STI.
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kittycat119
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Having sex with the dude wouldn't have risked an STD. They where mad she implied he had one just because be did gay porn as well
AcidT0y
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Doesn't really matter what they were mad about. Harassing her til she killed herself was probably a bit much...
kittycat119
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Yes it was. But they didn't force her to keep going in social media and reading what they said. Ultimately she choose to keep checking what people said and ultimately she choose to kill herself
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AcidT0y
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Kind of victim blamey but sure, if you like.
kittycat119
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I don't consider someone a victim when they can easily leave what is bothering them. A victim is someone who's forced to be in the bad environment. She choose to be in it. Thats not a victim any more when she choose to keep allowing it
AcidT0y
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She was literally a victim of harassment, regardless of whether you consider her to be one.
kittycat119
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No she really wasn't. Harassment is when you literally get harassed and can't escape it. She kept putting herself there for that. That's like if someone bullies me here and I kill myself I'm not a victim. I choose to allow it and choose to kill myself
AcidT0y
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Look. Social media is a huge part of the kind of work she did. These fuckwits flooded her social media with abuse. As a pornstar she would have had a tough time finding another job so just ditching her social media was never a realistic option for her. A horde of SJWs getting together and fucking with her relentlessly is absolutely harassment. She couldn't reasonably avoid it and there was too many of them for her to block. Your argument is borderline sociopathic.
kittycat119
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Social media is not a huge part of being a porn star. As many porn stars and celebrities don't have them. So yes she could have easily deleted it. I never once said they had any right to insult and bully her. All I said was she could have easily avoided it by stop looking and going to her social media. It's not hard. As someone who has been told many times on my Facebook to kill myself by people yeah I learned just get rid of it. It's way better to be without then to see those comments
AcidT0y
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It's become clear at this point that you don't understand how the porn industry works or what harassment is. Which is totally fine but I'm not gonna argue with you about something you don't even understand.
kittycat119
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Considering you don't need social media to be a porn star yes I do. And harassment can only last on social media of the one being harrashed let's it. Which she kept doing
AcidT0y
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You need it to be actually successful at it. That's how you gain a following and you need a following to get higher paying jobs because your only value is the size of the audience you bring in. Yes there are porn stars with no social media. No they don't have a large following. This is how it works and that is why she couldn't just delete her twitter and why it is definitely harassment. You either understand that or you dont and I couldn't give a shit which it is 😂
kittycat119
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Lmao there are a ton of porn stars without social media who are popular
name_is_ericGuru
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The people harassing her were, in fact, the LGBT "community".
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abc--123Master
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I've never felt the need to contact a porn star let alone demand they do certain videos
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JamesRandiDebatesGuru
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Its not pressure. Its what they are hired to do.
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Anonymous
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Wait, you're trying to pin this on men? LMAO! That is so fucking ignorant.
There is a word for women who try to blame everything on men... you're called a 'feminist'.
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Anonymous
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It says right there that it was "LGBTQ+" activists, not men. Don't be disingenuous.
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Anonymous
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This is only part of the story. Go read the full thing to understand what really happened and hot it went down.
No one pressured her, nor forced her to do anything.
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