1.) It makes you cunning and carnal.

It slowly corrupts you and turn you less humane. people like this talk about sex and dirty stuff all the time. Most of their conversation topics revolve around carnal pleasures. They are full of innuendos and have mostly such things in their minds. They hung around with like minded people and share their saucy experiences, their bf's penises, their gf's bj skills etc. They became judgmental. They look at people like meat and scan them as they enter a room. If you hang around such people they'll turn you like themselves.
2.) It makes you desensitized and makes your heart colder.

Your romantic, innocent, poetic, aloof self exists only one time. It will never come back. And it is meant for your one, lifetime partner. As long you exercise your egotistical will and get heartbroken, you become cynical, your heart cold and less acceptable of love, and you see the other gender with resentment and mistrust. Even as a mere sex object after a point. Thus the phenomenon today of male and female players.
3.) It is egotistical, irresponsible and unthoughtful of others.

An unborn child being aborted, your parents shocked and saddened, your teachers and mentors dissapointed. The other person being used for your selfish goals. All these people affected because its all about me, me ,me. It has the pretence and excuse of love, but it ain't true love. Cause true love is humble, it surrenders its will, and it never hurts others.
4.) It doesn't blend well with spiritual practices. (Nor does masturbation)

Well don't take my word for it. Try it on your own. And i dont speak new age demonic pseudospirituality bs, but real spiritual practice like contemplative prayer.
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40 56So i understand that these are your beliefs and that's perfectly okay, however i feel like you are judging people by telling us that we who don't do as you, are somehow "cunning, carnal and selfish", which is the total opposite of what Christianity preaches. I'm Orthodox Christian and I go to church, pray and fast sometimes, but I don't push my beliefs on others and i don't like others trying to tell me who I am either. I believe in sex before marriage bc that just works for me, if it's different for you then that's okay, but keep in mind that religion is an individual and private thing, and that's the way it should stay.
But if someone is Christian then she shouldn't have sex before marriage since the bible is very clear on it being a sin.
@TyroneTerminator2229 as i said religion is an individual thing, few if any do exactly and everything the bible says. I practice my religion my way, and you can practice yours your own way.
you can't tailor christianity to your needs though. Christ was clear with the woman with the illegal men. "Go and dont sin anymore". Just because you believe it "works for you", it doesn't mean it really works for your soul as well. so you mean you can have illegal relationships and daily pray an frequently confess and commune in the church? so you have illegal relationships and your priest gave you the blessing to participate in the sacraments? cause life without the secraments is no life for me... .
You are still not a priest and therefore you have no right to say what is right or wrong, your job is to live the life you believe is right. Many things are said in the bible and everyone blindly ignores lots of points and quotes, it's impossible to follow everything, bc we are different and understand things differently. Being a Christian above all else is believing and trying to be a better person, I just don't agree with your points on what makes a better person, Christian or not.
Christ never spokewith harshness. but about us lukewarm christians that cherry pick stuff and dont give it our all He said He will puke us out of His mouth. thats how much aversion He has over lukewarminess... .
Then that is still between me and Christ, not between me, you and Christ.
I'm not Christians so I don't believe in the bible or it's teachings but I understand the bible well. And all I'm saying is that fornication is a biblical sin in both old and new testament. People can do whatever they want, sure, it's their life but I don't believe in the whole "don't judge" philosophy. If a vegan starts killing and eating cows and chickens and they still call themselves vegan I can still look at them and judge them as not really being vegan or the very least a bad vegan and they aren't being consistent with the vegan lifestyle.
Amen! Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
That was for @Cloudy25 for saying that it is between her and God.
@asheslee hahah thanks 😘
I hope you catch an STD.
@sweetlivy, that is horrible! If you wish this kind of thing on your neighbor, you are certainly not modeling the behavior of Christ. Remembed, Christ stopped the stoning from occurring. Why then, do you feel as though you can hurl stones at someone?
@sweetlivy lol and why so want me to catch an STD
@asheslee I was kidding, but her answer just really made me upset. A Christian supporting fornication is wrong. I don't judge her for what she personally likes or believes, but I just don't like it when people openly support sin.
Do* not so
@sweetlivy sorry not sorry but I'm not here to please you, I just expressed my opinion and I have a right to do that. so i don't really get why you even bothered commenting at all.
@sweetlivy, you put it out there with no apologies. If Insah something hurtful and walk away, it doesn't make it right for me to come back and say, "I was only kidding but I did that because you made me mad." I am always surprised by how hateful people can be on here and it is sad that those who are taking a Christian stance are the ones spewing hate.
Your comment just made me upset, I wasn't intending to comment but I just don't like it when people support sin. I'll pray for you.
"If I say..." typo
@sweetlivy sure, I don't like a lot of things either but whatever. Oh I'll pray for u too ☺️
@sweetlivy, and still no apology. Speaking about your intention isn't the same as admitting your approach was incorrect and your comment was completely out of line. If you want to know why Christianity is shrinking understand that the arguing, bickering and judging going on inside of the body is largely responsible. No, thank you. You can keep your Holy huddle. I would rather meet people where they are with love and compassion.
@asheslee I appreciate you being fair an not judging. You remind me of the amazing people i meet at church. Also regarding the other comment I'm also not "supporting fornication", I just said that that is what works for me and I respect anyone's decision on how they want to live their life bc it's not for me to judge. Just wanted to put that out there. Thanks again :)
@Cloudy25, You are welcome. Thank you for the compliment. I seriously get upset when people are intentionally rude to others. It just strikes a nerve with me.
@asheslee yeah but you're handling it great! I wish I had that kind of patience haha unfortunately i can get a little bitchy when someone is offending to me, but I try my best not to be.
Okay, maybe I should apologize then. I'm really sorry that I made that silly comment. I'm really young and I tend to say things I don't mean. That doesn't mean you two are any better than be because you were both rude back, so.
*me; typo.
@sweetlivy, I was not rude at all, not do I think I am Any better than anyone. I am just another bozo on the bus, but I will always speak out when I feel that someone is being intentionally hateful.
@asheslee Did I not say I was kidding though? I don't want anyone to catch a sexually transmitted disease, I only said that out of anger but I also didn't actually mean it, therefore I was just kidding. You may proceed along with your day now.
Plus I even apologized so you really can't say anything.
@sweetlivy I actually didn't do anything to you at all, I just didn't agree with you. Hun, people will never say things you'll like all the time and that does not equal rude. I simply, did not let you shame me, nothing more. I appreciate your apology though, so let's just end this subject.
Yeah Im not feeling this. I understand im a sinner but id rather sin and be free than be a saint and having no fun. A saint ain't nothing but a sinner who fell down and got up.
If that's your attitude, just don't have sex, period. Don't pollute other people's lives by talking to them, either. Personally, I won't waste my time discussing the time of day with someone who thinks they know everything about a subject when, in fact, they know almost nothing about it.
So taking what was generally considered good advice throughout the world for centuries, and only treated with this level of hostility since Kinsey's fraud in the 1940s and onward, makes her a "polluter"? You are a deluded hater.
@Answerdude dont want advice noone forces you to take it. i dont pollute lives. except if by pollute you mean i awake your conscience and that annoys you. you prefer numbness.
There's nothing in me you can awaken that hasn't already been awakened. As for spiritual practices, I suppose you just turn a blind eye towards Kama Sutra and Tantra. Don't presume to know what I prefer, either.
@ObscuredBeyond If by "good advice" you mean the notion of stoning people or burning them to death at the stake for having different beliefs, you're right in assuming I don't have a friendly attitude towards that. I'm well aware that people have all sorts of attitudes and life-styles and comfortable with that, too, provided they don't decide that theirs is the only one that should be permitted and seek to force it upon others.
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This is exactly what I said on my comment yet recieved a bunch of down votes for speaking the truth lol.
@ProjectBaby1K Same here! If anyone challenges you, tell them to provide proof/citation that you are wrong. Don't let them get away with simply saying "you're wrong". That's an opinion, not fact/citation.
Oh boy!!! Here it comes
This is very likely one of many cases where correlation does not mean causation. If there harder to please maybe like variety or excitement or only attractive guys that wouldn't stick around. Then they're both likely to end up with more partners and less likely to want to stick around with their partner after geting together with them. It's not the act of sleeping around a lot that does it but rather. Something else about them tends to cause both of these.
I don't really care about how others chose to express their sexuality but premarital sex is not for me.
I can relate to some of these points.
To each their own... I personally don't buy a car until I drive it! Sorry.
people aren't cars. would you like your daughter or sister to be someone's testable car?
Whats the difference? Somehow they are not being tested under the umbrella of marriage? If there is no sexual chemistry it will just weigh on them and then it's over... all of that for nothing.. now you have a divorce when you could of just found out in the beginning. Again , to each their own.
if they divorce them just for that, then its better that they divorce in the first place.
You are right... if they don't have sexual chemistry they just don't have to have sex for the next 50 years because that isn't important.
No dear. Sex you have to be compatible. Nothing worse marrying a guy with a 2 inch micropenis or a 7 inch minuteman. Or a girl who lies in bed doing absolutely nothing.
@Angelzplay85 maybe you should never marry if thats marriage for you.
Ohh... OK! If you say so...
oooh my! I always knew I had a devil in me...
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If a person wants to have sex without being married, that's fine. It's not for you to decide
No, but it *is* for the One Who made her and me and you to decide. And that decision has already been made. And we are in no place to act like it has no value.
Like I think I went carnal before though. Just didn't unleash yet but when I did it wasn't my deepest fantasies.
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As someone who is waiting for the right girl i disagree completely with your take. Romance and sex are great together but not nessisarily tied, i highly doubt ill become desentensized if my relationship fails with my first sex partner and it somehow no longer is pleasurable on the next. I imagine romance and sex will always be special to me when sharing it with my partner no matter which number she is.
imagination differs from reality. humans are built with a certain love mojo tank. when you use it here and there you waste it.
I mean i only have sex with people i care about so if that makes me a bad person, or egotistical then so be it. i dont do it for a number its just something that happens.
What if I never want to get married? All the sex I want and it still keeps me fucking awesome. Checkmate.
it depends on what you want out of life. you are not born for mediocity but for perfection.
You know marriage is the number one killer of dreams ambition and accomplishments right?
foul dreams and foul accomplishments usually. whats really of value in life? money? producing the next desirable product? fame? none of these things brings true peace in the human heart or salvation to your fellow human. and plus what marriage? not a godly marriage of two godly people for sure. i've seen examples like that and they live paradise on earth. my husband's parents were like that.
Religion is stupid. And no, I didn't say money fame or the next product. You made an assumption.
Your husbands parents had premarital sex too
no they didn't. unlike me they were fortunate enough to be raised as orthodox christians and lived accordingly. they lived a life of prayer and humility, and whoever sees them says they are the most loving couple ever. their faces radiate with light whenever they enter a room. its another thing to descriibe it and another to experience it.
"What if I never want to get married? All the sex I want and it still keeps me fucking awesome. Checkmate." then bang sluts
Sure but this might be more person dependant... as in if someone embodies those negatives you outlined pre marriage --> why would that change after marriage... they would most likely be the same because now you're having sex after marriage. But marriage won't change that behaviour --> it's your choice of man that will determine the type of sexual relationship you will experience
exactly what i'm saying. its not the action on its own. its the spirituality of a person behind it. but it boils down to the fact that a very spiritual person wouldn't live an ungodly lifestyle in the first place. glad you get it... .
This is your opinion, everyone has a different one.
I personally can't imagine being with someone and not knowing if our sex life is gonna work out well? He could be the most affectionate guy ever, but if the sex would suck, then the relationship itself too.
then you need a broader imagination. there is more to life than just that. its a flame that it seems hasn't touched your heart yet... .
Sex is equally important just like communication and love.
in the right context yes
We are all unique and individual, therefore our views, opinions, religious beliefs and culture will all vary greatly.
"Live And Let Live"
The human creature is the same worldwide though. There are other priorities in spirituality but this is still a component.
So bottom line is you are saying that ALL OF US should adopt your beliefs then. Well I'm sorry to disappoint you for it's far too late for me, you see I had sex long before I even thought about or considered marriage.
thats great. but dear there are young kids out there confused by the media and porn. you are mature enough to not be careless. these kids though work with mimicry of their peers and media.
Just let me tell you this Madam, and that is any of our future children will be brought up and taught with guidance from my husband and I to follow their own ideals and beliefs. The End.
ok sounds good. not need to get worked up. sorry if i were intruding. i bet you have great values to share with your kids. just saying that we live in an era with too many stimuli and too many opportunities for regretable actions... .
Apparently the piece of paper called the marriage contract has the power to banish wicked beings. It must be those ink with awesome powers.
For real man, for real.
totally misunderstood notion. there is nothing magical about it, its the spiritual level of the person that can't blend foul life and spirituality in the first place. it just doesn't work.
As I said, magical paper power of demonic banishment. Marriage paper. Supreme spirit power to banish wicked beings.
you dont get it. its not about your genitals nor any magic legal papers. its about being a person that could wait for your wife and a person living for spirit, than for carnal pleasures on this earth. if you are on the second category it means you haven't been touched by a higher value yet.
It's a piece of paper. Can't do much unless you have some thing to juice it up. It's magical because of higher value beings? Like spirit kings? Lord of the elemental planes? Dragon god? Conqueror of Last Heaven? Or high value as like very expensive wine?
It was just like u read my mind💋
I could see myself typing all that. Great take.
All love.
But... But... What if someone be like...
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how is that any different? oh yeah i forgot to not feed the troll hehe
How is it sexual intercourse though? Explain.
you know how. please dont be provoking and try to instill improper images in people's heads. dont tempt cause life tempts you back... .
And how am I provoking?