Sexual Relationships 
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NEVER ACCEPT THE FRIEND ZONE
So you met this hot girl and made your moves and she decided to friendzone you.
You are thinking about and it and now wondering why. "Am I not good enough for her" You think that you will eventually become close friends with her and then finally get the chance to hook up with her? NOPE.
If you offered a romantic interest in her and she rejected then that means she is letting you know that she is not sexually attracted to you. By you accepting these terms of being friends and friends only you have created a dynamic in the relationship. You are prostituting your feelings and doing yourself a disservice. You are disrespecting yourself and your feelings. You are acting like a beta male.
If she friend zoned you.. the best thing you can do is throw your cards on the tables and make it clear that is what you want and nothing less. If she rejects you then you respectfully go no contact. You need to stick by what you do here. If you go back then you are just another fuckboy in her book. She might just come back after a while... (it's happened to me before). But again.. you need to stick to what you say and be a man about it. Don't go on a rampage and try and make her jealous and interested in you with subtle little moves. Girls easily notice these things. Just man up and walk away..disappear. The strongest negotiating position in a relationship is the ability to walk away and mean it.
You need to let her know and make it clear that you are not interested in just being friends. If you accept this invitation as friends she will lose even more attraction towards you and eventually resent you. She will not respect you because you are not respecting yourself.
By doing the above you are acting like a man that is worthy of value. You had the balls to approach this woman and throw all your cards on the table. She rejected you but you still had the balls which makes you more attractive than the timid guy who keeps to himself. Then after she rejected you walked away with pride and shrugged it off like nothing. You respected yourself and knew your value and clearly displayed that you have value to her by your actions.
I guarantee you that she will respect you for this and might just hit you up when you least expect it. She might just think wow this guy must have 10 others girls to go to if he just dropped me like that. Now you have switched the dynamic on her. See how that works?
It's not the end of the world guys. Why waste your time and constantly get your ego crushed by a girl who doesn't want you when there are so many other beautiful women out there? You can have so much more fun in a relationship when the women is attracted to you and all over you. Some of the most attractive people get friend zoned.. don't take it personal. Be a champ at taking rejection. Be willing to take the hits. We are all going to make it bros!
Don't be this guy.
What Girls & Guys Said
22 40Are you trying to red pill gag?
Friend zone is a state for beta males where women place you to be used to feed their ego without giving you any pussy. Run, don't walk, from the bitches.
If you like her and she doesn't be the person she needs... If something stems from there, make sure both of u feel that way... If not why run off a good friend. I know I need friends more now than lovers or so-called lovers... So if u need a lover first more than a friend, it's your call, but if u truly just need a hood person who is loyal and true, keep it that way if it is meant to be, then it's meant to be...
Good take.
The friend zone ain’t even bad my “girl friend” said I’m in her friend zone yet we have sex it’s not that bad plus most likely cuz dating you breakup and stuff goes bad then your not friends but if your friend zone that just gives a better chance of loving you longer... annnd everyone say there’s no getting outta the friend zone but that’s actually not true you just gotta give it time😂😂
What's the big deal? Some one don't want to have sex with me, buhu. Move on, there are plenty other out there. The more time you spend on the wrong one is time wasted to potentially find the right one.
it isn't that deep. she just isn't into u. ur not entitled to a relationship
Fuck this friendzone shit. I just got friendzoned by this girl. Bout to cut ties real quick. Funny thing is i said the same to her before about me knowing how i feel about her already.
It doesn't take a genius to understand what i said about the double standards. That is the choice we make instead of ruining a girl's reputation. What is the problem? You must be so blind if you don't see it on you don't understand because you're not a guy so there's not much point saying we are all the same now is there?
@cipher42 I can sense. Just in case you're gonna block me, I'm gonna say it here.
I mean I'm gonna continue the topic here weather you like it or not.
My issue with the way you write is that it's often simply not clear what you're referring to. So, let's clarify some things so we're actually on the same page: 1. What double standards are you talking about? 2. What is the choice you make, and how would the other choice ruin a girl's reputation? 3. Why do you think I'm saying we're all the same and what's your problem with that? The problem is that the way you write is immensely unclear, as you refer to things with "it" and "that" despite those things being so far back in the conversation that I have no idea what you're talking about and have to try to make guesses, guesses which might just be wrong and make it seem like I have even less clue what you're talking about.
Actually question 3 is about something not directed at me (I think?) but the first two still apply. And I still want to know specifically what your issue is with the views I've stated.
@cipher42 1. The double standards such as again what I said "We do prioritize ourself. That's why we cut ties instead of getting hurt for someone. But "all that tells me is that he doesn't actually value me for who I am, but rather was only spending time with me for the hope of getting with me." Is always what's in your mind. If that was vice versa, she's an independent woman." Just have to point that out for you to open your eyes. 2. No we don't do that but instead we cut ties unlike some girls who can whine and ruin our reputations. It's even hard for men do friendzone women without getting called a douche bag after they involve other people to their problems. 3. Because you easily point out that's what men do like were being selfish or something. Maybe in your case if you do cut ties but not us. So that's my point saying we're not the same. We have our very own reason and society don't treat us like how they treat women. Now is all clear?
Or should I say question 3 is something based on women in general.
1. Not allowing people to prioritize themselves isn't a double standard unless it's applied unequally, which I'm not doing. In fact, I'm not even not allowing that. As I've explained several times already, I'm not morally opposed to friendzoned people cutting off relationships (for the right reasons anyways), I simply find that people who do so to me are people who I could give less of a shit about. If a woman did the same thing to me after I rejected her, I would dismiss her just the same. 2. No you don't do WHAT? Remain friends with the woman? How do they ruin your reputation if you remain friends with them? I have never heard someone call a guy a douche for rejecting a girl, and I would disagree with anyone who did. 3. For the billionth time, my views apply equally regardless of gender. And if anything, girls who "friendzone" people have a worse reputation than guys who do. In fact, the vast majority of discussion of the friendzone (and the origin thereof) is guys complaining about girls doing it. Do you have some kind of persecution complex or something?
@cipher42 1. Not talking about yourself but society in general. You may see it as "acceptable" but that doesn't really change the average. I'm talking about average. 2. I'm not talking about women being friends with men can ruin men's reputation but how they would react if a man friendzone them. If that is what you think that's just stupid because that's not what I think. "I have never heard someone call a guy a douche for rejecting a girl" Yeah that's based on your experience but in reality, there's always that person who would do that. Good for you you're against that but I'm not talking about you being that. Just have to point that out for you to open your eyes. 3. For the billionth time, Again I'm just pointing out you're talking about guys while saying that's not the only reason as I even elaborated it while giving you factors such as not support and can't whine so they do it because they don't wanna get hurt for someone. I don;t have any kind of persecution complex but how about you? You fear men's decision?
1. Soooo why are you talking to me about it? And more importantly, why are you presenting it as if these opinions are my own? Plus, I don't actually think that's true, I think you're just seeing it that way due to some kind of bias. Unless you have actual evidence/specific examples? 2. How often have you personally seen it happen? More importantly, do you have specific examples you can actually cite me as sources? Again, this very phenomenon was named in a context of girls friendzoning guys, and I'll bet you that 9/10 memes if not more (one of the places where I see the friendzone referenced the most) on the subject are about girls friendzoning guys. 3. I talked about guys initially due to the factors I already explained, now my statements are essentially gender neutral except where it's necessary for them not to be. "giving you factors such as not support and can't whine so they do it because they don't wanna get hurt for someone" Again, your wording is awful. "not support" and "can't whine" aren't factors, not ones that I can make any sense of anyways. And "they" is ambiguous here. I assume you mean guys who walk away from the friendzone?
@cipher42 How many question is that supposed to be?
1. You just shared something. Why can't I? Because it's called freedom of speech just in case the topic will turn into a one sided topic. Just have to address something just in case there gonna be someone out there who's gonna start generalizing because you're talking about men.
2. Quite a lot and my experience too. A girl who holds grudge because she's friendzoned talking about it to her friends. You aren't exactly aware of this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect
3. So yeah my wordings are awful but truth is awful. Nobodies fault if your allergic to it. And yeah I'm talking about guys who walk away from the friendzone. Same with girls who whines about the friendzone.
1. My point is that when you present these arguments to me, it appears that you are arguing AGAINST me, which indicates that you think I'm opposed to the points your making. This is yet another of the reasons I find your comments hard to understand. Freedom of speech is nice and well, but the goal of speech is communication, and you seem to be rather bad at achieving that goal. 2. A lot of people hold a grudge when friendzoned. That doesn't mean society at large justifies that grudge more for women than for men. Again, based on the context "friendzone" is most often used in, it's the opposite. 3. A truth no one can understand is hardly a truth. If I tell you something true in a language you don't speak, or in a misleading way, that does absolutely no good, and it's entirely my fault when you don't understand. Guys whine about the friendzone far, far more than girls do. Only your need to be a victim says otherwise.
@cipher42 But does it actually mean I'm against you? If you posted your freedom of speech then why can't I? If that's how you feel, that's no bodies fault and yeah a lot of people holds grudge on friendzone. I can also point out girls do that too while you and the OP are pointing out that guys do it. And lastly. I can also say that people who cut ties in friendzone are victimizing you. Sure guys whine about girls under your circumstances but the reality is society don't give guys much support. It's the other way for me that girls whine.
And I love how you confidently say "Guys whine about the friendzone far, far more than girls do." Without nothing to back up your claim.
It doesn't mean you're actually against me, it just means you're bad at communicating. And jesus are you reallt gonna invoke free speech? Am I really gonna need to explain how dumb that is? If the best justification you can come up with for what yoy say is that it's not illegal to say, you must be saying some dumbass shit indeed. Any google search for friendzone memes, honestly even just a search of this site will show you that the majority of people who complain about being in the friendzone are men.
@cipher42 Bad at communicating huh? You know that's nobodies fault you can't understand a thing started throwing attacks like that. Sure you can explain how dumb it is. You started it after all. Those meme's aren't even taken seriously. It just means they do it because it's funny if men gets friend zoned but if it's a women, it's the end of the world. That shows no one takes men seriously. Also you can see many stories like dramas about their crushes form women and I can already see people in comments giving her pats on the backs. All one sided. That women are wonderful effect is a phenomenon. And do you guarantee that people who posted those memes are all guys? You don't know them behind the screens so stop jumping to conclusions.
@cipher42 Yeah women don't whine alright but they post something emotional instead like virtue signaling meant to be taken seriously.
Also, those people making those memes are less likely to be the one's who are the victims. They just wanna be funny because a lot of people don't take guys seriously.
If you wanna dodge friendzone
> message sloot that U wanna bang her
> gratz.
Well I don't talk to women, so I can avoid the friendzone very easily. Like seriously, why be friends with a girl that you really like? That's like an average guy being good friends with a female bikini model or a female fitness model all because that average guy is not her type,... but they still remain good friends regardless if he wants her but doesn't have a chance with her. That makes no sense.
I can stay friends with a woman who turned me down romantically and be ok, but that doesn't mean every guy shares my sentiments. Men aren't entitled to anything from women I get that, but women aren't entitled to anything from men either. So if a man decides he doesn't want to stay friends with a woman who rejected him then that's just it. She's not entitled to his friendship. I get that some guys will pretend to be friends in the hopes of romance which is manipulative on the guys part. I'm talking about guys who make themselves and their intentions clear from the start though.
but rejected and decided to cut her off that's not manipulative or entitled because he made himself clear and he accepted her answer
Some can handle the friend zone and some can't.
I say, "I'm sorry you feel that way. Your loss, fuck off, have a nice life", walk off and never, ever speak to her again. She isn't worthy. Friends my ass !
Good man. Words of wisdom here. What unit were you with devil dog?
Why must you lash out with "fuck off" to women who reject you? And take owner, why do you consider it words of wisdom to say "fuck off" to someone who rejects you. I agree with much of your take, though by no means all of it, but why on earth is it a good idea to tell someone to "fuck off" for rejecting you?
@Bluemax Because it lets them know I'm not a wimpy assed little beta faggot. Also, it takes the control away from them. You may not like it, works for me.
Marine OCS at Quantico until I got dinged because of my knees. I wanted to fly the F-4 Phantom and the F/A-18 Hornet. Next life.
Jesus Christ. Seriously? Just because a woman doesn't find you attractive romanticall or sexually means you're gonna tell her to "fuck off"? Honestly I'd never want to be with a guy who only valued me as a romantic or sexual interest rather than actually giving a shit about me as a person.
@cipher42 Works for me. I'll be damned if I. m settling for second place from anyone. I don't have to. Only little beta faggot Momma's boys take this.
Not settling.
Sucks man. I was 2nd LAR 0352
Yeah okay. So you're an overmasculine idiot, got it.
@cipher42 Whatever. I'm not changing.
Good. Just make sure to be as obvious about your overmasculinity in real life as you are here, saves us girls the trouble of having to find it out the hard way.
@cipher42 I'm with cipher on this. Don't waste a woman's time. XD
Marine Air Wing at Cherry Point MCAS
@wolfcat87 Get used to cats bitch, you'll need them.
VMFA 331.
@Marinepilot , I've never had to be a cat lady. I've been single a total of two years since pre-k. XD Get used to the fact that billions of far better men than you men agree with me.
@wolfcat87 Like you'd really know.
I agree. For real!
This is great advice. If you dig someone, ask them out. If they say no, move on and find someone else. You've already got friends. This applies to both genders.
you control the free will of others.
I like being in the friend zone when there are benefits involved;)