Will the End of Privacy Mean the End of Shaming?

[Belgie]

A friend has a juicy bit of gossip for you. You know Janey, that girl you both saw last week? She's had a threesome with Brad and Frank. Oooh, you think. Janey is a slut, and into 3 somes? Noice.

But is it?

We're all familiar with the double standard for sexual proclivity between men and women. If a girl likes sex and enjoys it, she's called a slut. If a guy does it, he's a stud. But the truth is, most women *do* enjoy sex. So why do people insist on calling a woman who enjoys sex *and* *gets* *what* *she* *wants*, a slut? There's something primitive about trying to morally chastise the female gender for enjoying sex. But it's still a very popular passtime.

So what? you might think. I'm not a slut, so it doesn't affect me.

Well, that attitude might come back to bite you on the ass. Whether you know it or not, or accept it or not, the age of privacy as we've known it is coming to an end. Anonymity is coming to an end. And it won't just be in the Soviet style of cameras and listening devices in our homes. Hell, we already have those. Whether it's your XBox or Alexa, or the microphone on your cellphone, we're already being listened to all the time. And your web cam's and cell phones possibly outnumber the CCTV's in your neighborhood. But not by much. And now it's legal for internet companies to sell your search data for money.

How long is it going to be, before your shameful google searches, looking for that porn to scratch that itch you don't like to talk about, winds up on a desk somewhere in a folder? Sure, that kink you have may not be illegal. It may even be relatively common. But is it something you'd want your neighbor to know about you? Or your childrens teachers at the PTA meeting?

Along with recognising that our expectations of privacy are out of date, we're going to have to realise that shaming others for their kinks or how they choose to enjoy sex, is also out of date.

And unlike the slut-shaming, men don't get a free pass on this one.

Sexologists like Kinsey have known for years that we are all more perverted than we like to think. The idea that society is "normal" and we are somehow exceptionally kinky, is a myth. Take any 10 users on GAG and you'll probably find 10 kinky fetishes that run the gamut of "normal" to "weird". But the guy who likes cheerleading lesbians is no different from the guy who likes being peed on, or the kid who watches Japanese videos where men in white suits pretend to be invisible and women pretend not to see him.

The day is coming when all that invasion of privacy is going to be used. Against us. The people. And the only way that particular armament can be defused, is if we all as a people, realise that we're all kinky fuckers and there's nothing shameful in that.

Of course, that day is not today. So right now, my depravity is going to stay between me, my pet goat, my ISP, Google, and my neighbor whose fetish is apparently staring at me creepily through his bedroom window.... Not that I judge him or anything. The pervert!

[RationalMale]

Another post bewailing the "double standard."
Captain Obvious here. Guess what. You know why men aren't shamed for having casual sex? BECAUSE WOMEN LIKE MEN WHO ARE VAGINALLY APPROVED BY OTHER WOMEN. Literally. It's why there are roughly 3 women alive who want male virgins.

See, two different groups have their own standards for each other is just that--different groups with different standards. I dated a girl in college, who's ex was the sort of guy who had a new hookup every week. Literally. And she knew that before she dated him.

Girls like her, who are fine dating promiscuous men, in no way means I or any man needs to be fine dating promiscuous women. Hence why even in this current year, there are still men who bring on divorces and breakups and shaming and refusing to date girls because they were sluts who had threesomes or dated black guys, etc.

Shocking, I know. Lay on your rage now.
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[Belgie]

Wow, you got like 5 lines in and decided you knew what the take was about.

[RationalMale]

Problem is, the second part was too ridiculous to really address. That's like telling a girl who had a threesome to just be proud of it and it'll be fine. It won't. It's still shameful.

[Belgie]

You made it all the way to 8 lines. You want a cookie?

[COCOCHANEL]

uh oh

[katiesmuff]

Very good MyTake Belgie and like it or not so very true.

[ThisDudeHere]

I think it will go the other way around - the end of privacy will not only not end shaming, it will intensify it as everyone will try to shame everyone else first, or even out-shame everyone so that their own kinks are downplayed.

[oddwaffle]

Big brother... Oh boy.

Unless they are going to outlaw it, I will donate to fund the noise data strategies.

Most of current data collection is based on large amounts of data and certain patterns in human. The noise strategy is simple, it introduce new patterns into your own patterns.

For example, you like burgers so you check out burgers. The noise will throw in something else like cat food and bonsai into your search history and randomly open those sites when you sleep or inactive.

It makes data toxic because the noise will confuse the results. You would come up as a bonsai loving cat browsing the internet to the computer. It takes genuine human to review and try to reduce the noise - which will be very costly.

[Brukiwi]

Every country needs privacy lobby group that fights the way the NRA do in America

[Barrabus_the_Free]

You mean by selling out the people they claim to represent, and cutting deals with those that are pro-tyrant in order to save antique bibles or something?

[CoolSky01]

lets be realistic, women can whistle at men and get sex at the same moment, thats why they are called sluts for doing it, cause its on super easy mode they dont have to work for it, in fact they dont even have to talk just take your shirt off and sit infront of some dudes.

[John_Doesnt]

I thought gossip was only for young people.

[sp33d]

Whether you know it or not, or accept it or not, the age of privacy as we've known it is coming to an end. Anonymity is coming to an end. And it won't just be in the Soviet style of cameras and listening devices in our homes. Hell, we already have those.

You may wish to back that up by a reputable source. What you describe is illegal for any ISP in the EU, at least. Wouldn't be surprised if also in the USA and other developed nations. Phone calls are not recorded unless it's explicitly stated OR it is court ordered surveillance. This is not a Hollywood movie.

[sp33d]

Also, if you apply a bit of common sense, you would realize that businesses would instead opt for ISPs that guarantee privacy. The bill (I assume that's what this is about) you are talking about only gives the right to, but does not oblige. The paradox is this: the data mining companies would actually buy information which is partially produced by their activity. It's pretty much common knowledge that corporate networks will dwarf the "consumer networks" [i. e you and I browsing the web]. There isn't anything significant to profit from. I've read the articles, they say they can track your routine and get it down to the T - wrong. They will get a lot of conflicting and redundant information. [You can think about that for a bit if you want to]. So, even if this bill does pass, what kind of profit do you expect the "evil ISPs" make? As I said, most of them already provide a privacy guarantee.

[JustCallMeLeon]

Alright! Im already famous!

[Deathraider]

Actually, quite the reverse.

[StainedClass]

I will shame till I die.

[CorruptedDocument]

Orwellian sex is best sex

[Anonymous]

''We're all familiar with the double standard for sexual proclivity between men and women. ...''

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[Anonymous]

I don't like feet

[Anonymous]

Colleges have a huge shaming culture

[Anonymous]

Is there anyway I can get my hands on a list of all those slutty girls who like threesomes? I tried Googling it, but came up empty.

[Anonymous]

First of all men are shamed for sexual promiscuity. Ever hear the term fuckboy? It's one of 4 words young women overuse. Calling someone a slut is socially unacceptable but in the pursuit of equality women like to have double standards and call us fuckboys whilest complaining about being labeled things.

How about we don't accept being spied on. How about our rights be more important than companys making money off us and the government being able to monitor us in case we want to commit a crime or act unseemly.

How about retarded rednecks realize that their persident fucked us good by allowing Internet service providers to sell your personal information and require them to give said information to the government upon request without a warrant or judicial oversight.
Sure the government is a little smaller but now their in your closet, your bedroom, your back pocket and the woodpile.
Now the government is much larger in your life.
I get you may see this new world order of surveillance as an inevitable result of our technology. But in the end we decide collectively what we will allow.
And this new generation of 'whatever' attitude seems too self absorbed to realize what is going on and don't care.
Time to read 1984 people. It is a warning. Of what IS happening. Young people can still read right? Like more than a few paragraphs at a time? 😒

As in 1984 sexuality and depravity will be shunned. Not accepted. Your efficiency as a worker will become your only asset and anything that may be viewed as a possible detraction from that will be made illegal. Corporate profits are at stake. Just like Henry Ford supporting proabition so his workers are slightly more efficient.

"Number 633267895433778 you are touching yourself inappropriately. Report for disciplinary measures to your building's HR officer. You have been fined 1000 credits."