Why are people allowed to post the same question over and over and over again? Why isn't this user being banned for spamming already?
We get it, you can't get laid and it's easier for the little brain-like sponge in your head to handle your failures by proclaiming that it's men in general that women don't find attractive instead of just you.
But here's some harsh truth for you: You are unattractive. I have no idea what you look like and I don't care, but you're clearly unattractive in every other possible sense of the world. Change that or deal with it.
Most women do not get immediate lust from the male body
Do you even know any women other than your mom?
Women are attracted to men, just not the sexually to the male body in and of itself
Omit "the" after just not
So your mom was attracted to your dad, okay.
Not sexually to his body as a standalone
*wasn't
Like I said, she wasn't sexually attracted to him through his body alone.
So she also liked him as a person. That's good.
How is that relevant?
Nothing being in this thread (or any of your threads of the same topic over and over again) is relevant. So who cares.
I guarantee you most women are not sexually attracted to the male body in and of itself. Yes, some women are, but they are in a minority. I even doubt you are part of that minority... otherwise you would immediately want to have sex with every random guy in public with a good body.
Funny how you keep referring to your mom as "most women". That's a strange nickname to have for your mom.
That was neither clever or funny
I agree. You should come up with a funnier and more clever nickname for your mom.
That was the type of reply I expected
Well, when you keep spamming the site with the same bullshit over and over again, don't expect to be taken serious. But you'll keep spamming no matter what.
You know it!
At least you're admitting you're a spammer.
Can't believe you even replied to that.
And you to that.
And you still replied hahahah. I always reply.
I always reply as well. :)
God, now I have to reply again...
I agree how does GAG let this Mark guy get away with this?
@douride2 His name is Mark? How do you know?
He has asked this question many times a few with his user name. Mark is only part of his user name. GAG would delete my comment if I used the whole name. the second half is Fish
@douride2 Ah, I think I've seen his account before. Thanks for the info!
It doesn't attract me physically as much as female body. And I am a straigh female who wouldn't have any sexual relation with a female. Female body is more beautiful. But I need a penis filling me and mental knowledge that he's strong, tall and broad-shouldered. However, my guy's short.
You sound far from straight to me
Dude, she's straight because she says she is straight. It's not up to you to define her personality for her.
*sexuality. Well I guess it's part of personality anyhow.
@Freiburger thank you. Well I have never wanted sex or intimacy or any relationship with a woman. I just appreciate facts of beauty.
Then you shouldn't say physically attracted, it's confusing, do you mean you simply think it's more aesthetically pleasing? and @Freiburger you aren't straight just because you say so, I have seen too many girls say they are straight when they masturbate to lesbian porn and kiss other girls.
Hmm yes that's what I meant, sorry. I get in sex mood seeing a naked woman, not a naked man, but I want a man when I get in mood, never a woman. Haha. Some of my female friends said the same. It may be Penis envy of Freud.
" I get in sex mood seeing a naked woman, not a naked man" Then you certainly aren't straight, you are more sexually aroused by the female body than the male body. That's like saying I only get in the mood for sex when I see a naked child not a naked adult and then claiming not to be a pedophile. And furthermore, I bet you need an emotional connection to a man before you are sexually attracted to him, thus not being sexually attracted to anything innately male.
Let's say this: when I see a naked woman I want to be a male and have sex with her, not have sex with her as a woman. I think Natalie Dormer is so hot but if she suggested me to have sex, I wouldn't actually get aroused. However, I'd desperately want to grow a penis and do her. I can have a one night stand with a guy, I just find it morally wrong. So, no, it's not only about emotional connection for me. I can't have sex with anyone who doesn't have a penis, can't have a relationship with them either, obviously. That is why I say I am straight.
You sound fucked up, you certainly aren't straight, you sound like you are mentally transsexual and are bisexual.
I mean... "However, I'd desperately want to grow a penis and do her." you can't possibly think you are straight, and you should seriously consider that you are transsexual
Hahaha. The thing is I have asked many of my friends, females, and they have said the same. Freud researched this issue and he just called this "penis envy", prevalent in women. So I guess more women actually have it than admitting they do. In addition, there are studies that say all women are bisexual to some degree. A man may actually get disgusted by the idea of having sex with another man, while for a woman it's not like "oh God kill me before I do it" disgusting, they just choose not to do it. Many girls try lesbian stuff just out of curiosity and then they discover they could never be with a woman neither sexually nor mentally. In my case, I have never wanted to even kiss a woman.
You label too easily. This thing is decades old and is prevalent among many straight women. Just read Freud's penis envy and statistics about female bisexuality.
Freud also thought all men had Oedipus complexes. I agree with the studies, I know them, done by dr chivers and dr reiger, all women are bisexual, you certainly are.
Does this mean no woman is allowed to say that she is straight? No. A bisexual woman is thus a woman who would actually have sex with another woman and even a relationship with her. I want neither and not just because of morals. I said I can't have sex where there's no penis, it just wouldn't satisfy me at all. And no, fingering and toys are never the same. I need a man in my life. That is why I am as straight as a female can be. What's about me wanting to become a man and have sex with Natalie Dormer, why wouldn't you just assume I am curious how it feels for a man and curious to actually dominate in sex? You are fast to conclude I am transsexual, which is not true at all. Be less easy with labeling, not everything that is white and has a dot of unusual black is black entirely. Plus, it is not unusual at all. With the same logic, I would call any guy who has sex with a woman but allows her to put a toy in his anus a gay. Would that be correct?
"but allows her to put a toy in his anus a gay. Would that be correct?" Both men and women have assholes so that point makes no sense. If being aroused by a body does not indicate sexual attraction, are people who are more aroused by a kids body than an adult body not pedophiles?
Quit it alex13, this guy gets a kick out of telling girls they're not straight. It's his life goal.
I believe a man's initial instinct is to fuck, not be fucked. Allowing something in your anus is being fucked. If he wants to be fucked and he is still straight, why am I transsexual if I want to fuck? A child has no other features other than. Eing small and it actually has no sexual features at all, not fully developed penis, neither boobs or anything, that is why it's pedophilia and not universally understandable why some like children. However, a woman's body is aesthetically much more pleasing than man's. What's the problem?
She gets far more sexually aroused by the female body than the male body, how is she straight? @pierrot
That's irreverent asker, Gay men are only aroused by the male body, even though it's apparently far less aesthetically pleasing than the female body so... We are comparing being aroused by someones body determining sexual attraction to the same thing. If a person is a pedophile (which is by definition sexual attraction to kids) for being aroused by a child's body, then a women is sexually attracted to a women for being aroused by the female body.
You just don't get the point like the girl who commented said. Many women are like this and they are happily leading straight lives. I enjoy being a woman and having a man. I lack nothing and don't lust for anything else. That is what determines sexuality, not the fact that you are curious how the opposite gender has sex and not even experimenting. (Which I have never had desire for). Bye.
@pierrot11 thanks :)
She sounds straight to me.
@pierrot11 thanks again! not that I am against LGBT people, I just feel straight.
If she sounds straight to you do people who are more aroused by children's bodies than adult bodies also not sound like pedophiles to you.
Is a person bi to a degress though if they aren't 100% straight though? You said it about women yourself. It's interesting that women are attracted to men more so because of emotions, because "straight" women do find other women sexually attractive, but instead of prefer the prettier sex they prefer men. Even though nothing is stopping them from going that route based on visuals. Like there is a big barrier for straight men with gay sex because men are not sexually attractive and like you said the thought is gross because men aren't visually pleasing. whereas for straight women, women are pleasing enough to where they wouldn't be grossed out touching a woman sexually, but just for arbitrary reasons choose men. You can't have sex with anyone without a penis? Can't a woman use a strap on that mimmics a dick? And so the man allure of male body is his tool, and not his other male body parts?
You get in the mood for sex with a woman's body probably because of how women's bodies are sexualized and symbolize sex in our culture and many cultures. "In addition, there are studies that say all women are bisexual to some degree. " The thing is, if you ask this and see this throughout GAG, many women seem tired of people feeling they are all bisexual to a degree and that all or most women turned on by lesbian porn or what you are saying. The women I know would be grossed out by kissing a woman, seeing lesbian porn, and can see a woman's beautfy and admire, but just in a pure admiration sense. And have not interest in trying stuff with a woman and for same reason straight guys don't with guys and it's because it would be gross and because they don't find other women's bodies sexually attractive. That sounds straight. And they find men more attractive and sexier than women. I find it interesting that you don't just find women more beautiful, because well women were made to be
women were made to be prettier in the sense of face and body. But you said far more aesthetically pleasing. You wouldn't find straight men saying that about the male body. And while gay men can admire women's beauty and may see women as "prettier", gay men find male bodies more attractive, which should be obvious considering that's what gay men are attracted to. You'd think the sex one is attracted to would see such bodies as more attractive and sexy visually as that's what draws them to said body, the body parts and aesthetics of such body parts which should be more atttractive to them of the opposite sex compared to same sex if they are straight and same sex body more attractive if they are lesbian or gay. I wondered if women have penis envy in regard to heterosexual sex in the case of how men can dominate or fuck them with their dicks and the things women have to deal with having a pussy that men don't have to with their dicks
@brennanhuff I never watch lesbian porn, I would never even come up with the idea to google it. When I said all women are bi to some degree I meant they are at least able to tolerate, for example, when I ask women if they would have sex with a woman for a million dollars, most say they would. Guys mostly reject this offer. Guy to guy sex would make most straight guys deeply traumatized, that is why most commit suicide or develop other pathologies if they are molested. I wouldn't have sex with a woman. I could, however, have sex with her for a million dollars and wouldn't be grossed out. I think most women wouldn't feel grossed out simply because a female body is more beautiful and nothing is actually entering you. (Okay I wouldn't really have sex for money, just saying). Also, no, toys and fingers and dildos and other stuff aren't emotionally satisfying me, I specifically want it to be a penis.
I think you'd be surprised with men with the $ answer. I wouldn't but I have a feeling a lot of straight guys would blow a dude if they were paid 1 million dollars. You see the gross shit people used to do on that game show. I can't remember the name, people would have to have bugs crawl on them, eat nasty bugs and the grande prize would be like $20,000. Most people are probably prostitutes to some extent. Do you find men's bodies sexier looking than women though? I wouldn't find a man's body more attractive, and would always find female body the sexy one. And you said you're not grossed about because women are more beautiful. Interesting, because I know plenty of straight women who would be and though they find women beautiful, it's men who are more attractive to them. And even with women being beautiful, I'd still think that shouldn't matter or should be gross to 100% straight women. You can have the best looking guy in the world, most handsome, fit man and women would see as
women would see as drop dead gorgeous, and despite such handsomeness, his looks would be irrelevant and would though of doing something sexual would said guy would still be gross to me and other straight men, because dudes are not sexually attractive and only attracred to female face and body parts. Like I'm even grossed out by actual women, but one's who I've seen who have manly faces, not trying to look manly, but women, who unfortunately for them have a jawline or more rough features where they don't just look unattractive but a masculine like face. There are some women who can have that and it's like my dick goes in reverse ha, it tries to go inverted and hide in my body from the atrocious sight
@brennanhuff I agree. I really think it's about aesthetic side and penetration. Sex is penetrating and receiving penetration. Women are aesthetically more beautiful, also, they do not gross me out since she will never be able to penetrate me and still remain a woman. (Oh God I swear if a woman could have a penis and do me I would really be grossed out by even jawlines and everything you said). I don't even perceive lesbian sex as sex (no offense). For me it's all about penis, so when I get horny I don't want boobs or vaginas, I want a penis. However, I may be curious of actually having a penis and dominating, that is why I may be getting aroused by female bodies.
Why does a woman not being able to penetrate you prevent you from being grossed out? She can penetrate you with her fingers though. So the thought of eating out a woman or sucking her tits doesn't gross you out? You said women are more beautiful, so it's just the penis. I'd think you'd find male body parts more attractive visually, toned chest, shoulders, arms, which is why you would be drawn to touch said male body sexually over women's breasts. I'd think you'd find male body parts more visually pleasing if you're sexually attracted to men. So a man's body is just a fuck tool to you? Just the penis. As a straight man, women's tits are attractive and definitely look better than a man's chest, no matter how toned his chest may be. I'd think if you're striaght you'd feel that way about male body parts vs women's body parts. And aesthetics play a role in sexual attractivness too. For example, a woman with a shapely heart like shaped ass is realy sexy and sexyually attractive.
it's the aesthetics of that, which makes the woman's ass so sexy and turned on and visually drawn compared to a woman with a flabby ass or flat ass, thus the difference in aesthetics does relate to sexual attractiveness of such body parts in comparison between women.
Does it bother you or you envious of men you have sex with then of their penis? Them being able to dominate you? I've wondered about that if women were envious of like how men like don't have to deal with things women do with their vaginas. The worst thing for men is ED which is not fun for men. But the pain and labor or childbirth, periods and cramps. Like a ton of maintenance and things it seems women have to deal with by having a vagina that guys kind of have a privilege having dicks. Like a male virgin doesn't have to deal with pain his firt time having sex but women with the hymen as virgins. And how big dicks whether girth or length can hurt some women, like guy's don't have to deal with as much. There isn't generally a female equivalent for the vagina as big dick in the dominance sense it seems. Tightness usually feels better for the guy where big can feel good for women while others hurt or be uncomfortable. I wondered if women were envious of this aspect.
Though you can still dominate a man via intercourse with your pussy. Positions like the amazon or reverse missionary sets it more up where a woman can "fuck" a man with her pussy so some power there.
@brennanhuff I could touch boobs but no I would never eat her vagina. That IS gross for me. I think I mentioned (not sure) that a penis and broad shoulders and height is what I like in a male body. Well, in purely physical way, that's it. But I like guys more because of other qualities - bravery, protective, etc. That may not be connected to physical sides at all. So, yes a guy is a fuck tool unless I love him (lol though I have only been with my fiance). Isn't it the same for guys? A woman is a fuck tool just because she has a hole unless you are also emotionally attracted to him. I don't mean I would let any man have sex with me just because all I look for in sex is penis. I need to like the man overall but what I mean is that penis is what makes me wanna sleep with men rather than women. Nah, nothing but penis counts as penetration for me. Male-female intercourse is the intimacy and submission-domination I look for in sex. Female penetration is a joke for me.
You're attracted to men because of dominance, so the male body isn't that hot. It's too bad women who answer like you, aren't attracted to the male body because of it's attractivness and it's not mainly strength and dominance of male body you're attracted to. Women can dominate men via intercourse too though. It sounds like you're attracted to what the man can bring to sex that women can't, which doesn't say much about aesthetics and attractivness or sex appeal of male body. "Isn't it the same for guys? A woman is a fuck tool just because she has a hole" Well in the way we desire to fuck women, they are but not like it sounds men are to you. The man's appeal is very penis based which is performance based and what you want from sex and to feel and a man can bring. It doesn't say much about how sexy his body looks or that appeal when you keep pointing that out and women being more attractive. If the male body is less attractive but despite that you want sex because of the penis
despite the male body aesthetic inferiority, then it's what the male body does that's more attractive and what turns you on, which is unfortunate because men like women who find their bodies sexy and it would be nice for women to find male body sexier looking than female body and "hotter". Women aren't fuck tools in this way, because I and other straight men. We actually find female body, the body of the sex we're attracted to more attractive, and it's not all about her vagina. We love tits, ass, the look, a lot to the reason of wanting sex and being drawn and why we have no interest in men and why men aren't attractive sexually because they lack those visually pleasing parts and men's parts not so sexy. It's not simply women have a fuck hole but sensual, sexy curve and body parts to look at and touch and stimulating visually. But you made it clear how not so with men's. So women's boobs look nicer and sexier than a man's chest? I'd never find a man's chest nicer than boobs
@brennanhuff yeah... maybe it's just me. Put there are many women who stay in a relationship with unattractive men just because they perform well in bed. For example, Charlotte in Sex and the City was disgusted by Harry. He was fat, short, hairy everywhere but head, so on... it happened so that they had sex and ever since then she was head over heels with him. He also appeared to have many good qualities as a person and a man.
as a straight men I wouldn't see it that way. It's probably why men see men are more "Straight" and the litmus test of heterosexuality based on the male perspective, because women's bodies are everything to men. Men's bodies are a fuck tool to women like you, an object of function and that's the appeal, not because its sexier looking than women's. Men are just a preference because you aren't grossed out by women's bodies. Does it suck being attracted to the sex with the less appealing body or stimulating looking body? Straight men have all these beautiful women and sexy bodies to be turned on by, and get hot for easily. While women don't get that visual appeal or body parts or men don't have the pleasing parts or goods for women right?
Your example about getting head (even though from a show)... if you aren't attracted to the guy and you accept head, wouldn't you accept it from a girl as well? Then you obviously aren't straight.
yeah but those aren't gender specific traits. The body parts are gender specific. There's more gender specific body parts than the penis and for you and other women it's how it performs and what you want. Meanwhile a man's chest is less attractive or not more attractive than women's boobs, a woman's ass is more attractive to you and other women. Only can the male body be so ugly that a straight woman can find that true but be "straight" and like men more. You don't find straight men feeling that way with such body parts, you don't find gay men feeling that way about male body or parts. Some gay men might find women more beautiful, but I'm pretty sure gay men find men's pecs sexier or sexy and not so for women's boobs and lesbians finding women's bodies more beautiful and sexier than male body. All this makes sense. You staight women are sure interesting. It all falls in line with orientation except for "straight women".
Yeah she is not sexually attracted to gender specific traits, another reason she is not heterosexual.
Look, asker, I am so sick of you. I am absolutely gender specific attracted to a penis and no other genitalia or boob can make me want sex with it. Got it? Mind your own business. Bye!
Ok, I know the asker is annoying you. But answer this if you want. You said gender specific traits and you keep brining up the penis you like and not interested in the vagina and keep saying how women's bodies are more attractive, which is interesting from straight women considering, straight men don't feel that way about men's bodies and gay men may find women beautiful, but they find men's bodies hotter or sexier than female body. You never answered. Is a man's chest which is different than a woman's and thus gender specific, is that more attractive by a fit man, than a woman''s tits? What about butt and other body parts? Straight women may find women prettier but they find men's bodies parts more attractive and sexier which is why they want to touch said male parts and not women's. Actually even though women are pretty, I don't see why that's a reason women would not be grossed out. Like I said gay men find or can find women beautiful but can be grossed out watching.
watching or doing something sexual with a woman and it's because of said aesthetics of her body. They don't like boobs or vagina and also seeing sex of women's bodies is unappealing to gay men. And there are actualy 100% straight women who have no interest in lesbian porn or are repulsed by lesbian porn, which actually sounds straight considering men are grossed out by gay porn. If someone is not 100% straight, they may not be bi, but I don't know if they are straight as an arrow. I call it straight-ish. So as a result do you believe only men can be straight then?
@brennanhuff yeah, kind of. I think most women who are repulsed by the thought of even touching a woman are exaggerating because of moral and cultural reasons. I don't mean everyone secretly wants to try it with a woman, no, even I don't want it as long as I'm a female (I'm just curious of being a male), but in extreme circumstances everyone COULD do it without vomiting.
If you aren't 100% straight you are bi by definition. She is more aroused by the female body so she is FAR from being 100% straight.
I doubt that, I think there are many people who would find it gross seeing same sex naked and stuff sexually regardless of social reasons, but just because said body is not sexually attractive which makes sense to me. Well it seems the more striaght someone is the more extreme the situation would have to be for someone to try something same sex. I believe there are plenty of 100% straight women though who don't find sexual enjoyment in the female body such as lesbian porn being gross and stuff because female body is not sexually attractive to them. Just because the female body is or can be beautifl doesn't mean a person can look at it in a sexual sense and not be grossed out like lesbian porn. Like I said plenty of gay men will admit and say female body is beautitful, but yet plenty of gay men will find lesbian porn gross. Thanks for replying. Unfortunatley you replying sets up the situation for others to reply to you and bother you. Sorry the result of my replies has caused that.
just ignore him. Sorry you had to deal with that as a result of answering me and his responses showing up as a result. thanks for sharing your views. I might not understand your point, but I like to understand why people see things or feel the way they do when it doesn't make sense to me. It still doesn't really, but appreciate you explaining instead of leaving it like that.
We aren't talking about aesthetic appreciation (thinking a body looks good or beautiful), we are talking about sexual arousal, which she experiences to the female body. She is not straight.
Dude, even if I was a lesbian, you are absolutely pathetic
Pathetic for telling you the truth, that you aren't straight? And I didn't say you where lesbian, you are bisexual.
I am not bisexual. The maximum thing I can be is bi-curious or being-a-guy-curious. You are pathetic because you obviously have nothing else to do in life at your 25-29 other than proving a point to some girl you do not know and will never know. You don't miss a chance to respond here even though whyyyy the hell would you care? Whole GaG community already got your point Oh-kaaaay? God some people just have toooo much free time, yes you are absolutely pathetic and the only thing this whole conversation proves is that youuu are pathetic who has nothing else to do and no interests and work to get busy with. At least I respond because it is about me and I want to clarify but you just have nothing else in life to do. You are pathetic. You are pathetic. You are pathetic. Even if I turned out a transsexual pansexual lesbian or whatever at leeeeeast that is an identity and I am not a loser like you demonstrate yourself here to be. Mind your own business! oh sorry, you have no business!
Bicurious is a semantically useless colloquial word, it is definition bisexual anyway. If you are straight then people who are sexually aroused by kids' bodies are not pedophiles. And you respond just as much as me.
I said: I respond because it is about me! You respond because you don't have any more interesting thing in life to do, obviously. Never pursuing a relationship with a woman anyways just because it is not fulfilling, marrying my male fiance and having kids, I suppose this is a major update for you because obviously my life is one of the top concerns of your reality.
Just know that you are not straight at all.
Oh you know if I would ever consider that idea I would begin considering the first time you responded to me. The total exhausting pathetic quantity of your responses does not change my way of thinking at all and just know that you really have to go out and do something or sit home and do something more productive than this. But I guess exhausting me is what you wanted since you behave like such an energy vampire. Congratulations, you may now sleep peacefully.
Are people who are sexually aroused by kids' bodies pedophiles?
Will be praying for you.
No form of god exists... probably...
A women who isn't aroused by good looking men might just be asexual, but it's not the case for most.
Let's be honest, most of us don't invest nearly as much as we can improving our look. But when you do, it's easier to get a girl's attantion.
Get her attention sure, but it doesn't sexually arouse her.
The female body is more attractive to both sexes because of the way it is built. Soft, curvy etc. Also many women have bisexual tendencies and are much more fluid with their sexuality
That would mean women are closer to being lesbian than straight.
Well you can't call them lesbians if they aren't 100% attracted to women alone
I didn't say they where lesbian, I said they are closer to being lesbian than straight. As in they are bisexual, but more sexually attracted to girls than guys.
Oh yeah then that's true
In tribal societies constructed in a different way to ours. Men are practically all gay, women have little sexual market value. Thus showing the fludity of the human mind regardless of sex.
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!I didn't vote the first option because I never actually wanted to be intimate with a girl yet alone have a relationship with her. NO. But yes I do get much more aroused by a female body. I am straight, I am not a bi. Never wanted a girl in any sense. In movies female body gets more of my attention than male. In reality I don't check anyone out.
Then people who are more aroused by children's bodies than adult bodies are not pedophiles. You are not straight at all! far from it! And I bet you need emotional connection to be sexually attracted to a man too, thus not being sexually attracted to male specific traits.
No. I can't get aroused by a woman at all. Males all the way for me!
Whaat is ur e mail?
Dan56992@gmail. com
Did u get my email?
Why would I give you my email?
But are you aroused by the male body? Most women who are not aroused by the female body are not aroused by the male body either.
Yes, men turn me on. 😂
Without forming an emotional connection to him? a random guy.
False, i have yet to be sure if women can nowadays really be attracted to the average male form, but i have no doubt that heterosexual women lust after males who have toned muscles and abs.
Yes, they are aroused by mele bodies, but only those that are muscular, preferably with the six packs, but the key is lean muscles, or muscles and low body fat, they can´t get enought of that, sadly i don´t have that kind of body, must be good looking like a male model and have you great lean muscular physique be drooled over by beautful women.
Not always. Some women are into muscular men, some aren't, some women like fat guys and some women like really thin guys. It's just preference and not everyone is the same, just like with men.
What are you going on about? Lots of women are driven mad by the male body.
They aren't actually sexually aroused by it though
Huh? I call straight up bullshit, at the very least, many women are secually aroused by the male body, what is your evidence they dont?
indiana.edu/.../Chivers_Seto_Blanchard_2007.pdf This research shows women where not aroused by a naked man, but where aroused by a naked women (In a videos). They where aroused by both gay and lesbian porn.
After glancing over it quickly while working my shift at my job, I noticed it says nothing about women not being attracted to men, just that heterosexual women as well as homosexual seem to have a sexual reaction to other women, as well as men. Read the part labelled "female nonspecifity."
Legit, this study shows nothing about female attraction, ignoring it's findings entirely now, the premise is fucked as women have physical responses easier than men, they can even have a response of arousal from being raped for crying out loud. All it proves is that women have sexual responses to people they aren't actually attracted to.
I never said women are not attracted to men, I said they are more attracted to women. You didn't read the whole study, she calls women ostensibly straight, and in the conclusionary paragraph "The results of the present study add to a growing body of research on the greater flexibility of women’s sexuality with regard to sexual identity, same-sex attraction, and same-sex behavior (Bailey et al., 2000; Diamond, 2005; Kinsey et al., 1948, 1953; Laumann et al., 1994; Savin-Williams & Diamond, 2000)." They certainly are saying women are not straight. Look up the study done by Dr Reiger (university of essex), you can't view online for free but you can read of it's findings. He flat out says "women are either bisexual or lesbian but never straight". Dr Chivers collaborated with him on this, so she shares these views. Also, if being aroused by someones body is not indicative of sexual attraction, are people who are aroused by kids' bodies not pedophiles?
First: "this research shows women where not aroused by a naked man, but where aroused by a naked woman" your exact words, I even included the mistakes. You did say women are not attracted to men. The study you linked went off of genital response, the women (and men) were giving a numerical value for how attracted they were, then they checked the genitals for a response. This makes sense since as I said, women can have genital signs of arousal during rape.
They weren't aroused by a naked men without a sexual act, they where aroused by a women without a sexual act, both the video of the man and the women where meant to be non sexual even though it included nudity. They where aroused by a man masturbating and gay porn. I never said they weren't attracted to men.
Psychology studies show women are subconciously aroused by animals. So are we 3rd in choice after women and dogs? Psychology is worthless. Women porn focuses more on the man and his looks so obviously they are into it. Psychologists have hidden agendas and their studies only measure a possible effect of a society and its mores and customs has on one of its inhabitants. The nature of tribes show us how fluid sexuality is in humanity where some tribes have men whom are all 'homosexual' and the women have no sexual market value. Sexuality is a construct with a commodified agenda. Western states are just pimps.
Their sexual arousal to monkeys having sex was shown to be zerosome, literally the lowest measureable level, lesbian porn aroused them like 200 fold.
What exactly do you mean, sexuality is a construct?
Yeah, the study I saw was dogs: they were. And if you look at the people likely to be into beastiality via choice rather than because of lack of access to sex it is women. Though, again psychology is a waste of time. Sample size etc. All it measures, inaccurately, is the net result of individual responses to a predetermined construct. What I mean by sexuality as construct is clearly visible in changing attitudes to attractiveness through education, history, class and upbringing. In western cultures homosexuality is like 5%. In ancient greece much higher. In tribes: some 100% which clearly shows constructiveness. If you were to sample sexual arousal in feral humans, 100% of them would be aroused by animals over humans. Monogamy is a construct introduced to solve societal problems of -hyperharemgamy.
Did you mean hypergamy? I don't see how sexual orientation affects that. You are describing affect to effect, just pissible reasons why people are certain orientations.
You are not clear in what you mean. No not hypergamy. Before monogamy was invented polygamy had been common but it effected rage. Thus: hypergamy in harem form. Hyperharemgamy. I do not think you understood the point about the affect constructs have on people. The point I made about feral children is quite obvious. Plus my own experience is enough to debunk this study. If you were to bring people up in sexually segregated societies where all media, institutions and religions pushed people into homosexuality. The vast majority of them would be homosexuals. The result of a sample of such a hypothetical construct of people would give completely different results. Simple.
See you are still just describing possible reasons why women have become bisexual, they still are bisexual though. And did you make that word up yourself? Yeah I know monogamy was made so the beta male gets a partner, as if a large portion of men didn't get a partner they will get violent and pretty much tear society apart.
I'm turned on by cocks personally. Good looking cocks, that is.
Are you turned on more by big dick or six packs?
Women do nothing for me, It's impossible for me to feel aroused by another woman. I'm as straight as a ruler I guess.
That's same for me...
I mean it's impossible for me feel aroused by man? Straight as a ruler good example 😉
Op is talking about physical responses to stimuli rather than attraction, which seems silly to me since vaginal arousal happens during rape too. He linked a study to me that he seems to base his whole argument on.
I m not talking about physical mate... when i look man don't feel anything that way.. but women uh lala
I was responding to the shrewdrose, but yeah, the study showed men typically only have a physical response to the gender they're attracted to, women in general seemed to have a physical response of some degree to both whether they were attracted to them or not. He takes from this that women are attracted to women and not men, what a dunce.
Again, the study wasn't about attraction, but rather physical responses, so they were monitoring the people's genitals and measuring what kind of reactions they had.
Interesting. 🤔
You didn't read the whole study, she calls women ostensibly straight, and in the conclusionary paragraph "The results of the present study add to a growing body of research on the greater flexibility of women’s sexuality with regard to sexual identity, same-sex attraction, and same-sex behavior (Bailey et al., 2000; Diamond, 2005; Kinsey et al., 1948, 1953; Laumann et al., 1994; Savin-Williams & Diamond, 2000)." They certainly are saying women are not straight. Look up the study done by Dr Reiger (university of essex), you can't view online for free but you can read of it's findings. He flat out says "women are either bisexual or lesbian but never straight". Dr Chivers collaborated with him on this, so she shares these views. Also, if being aroused by someones body is not indicative of sexual attraction, are people who are aroused by kids' bodies not pedophiles?
You just haven't met the right woman yet ;)
Well I can't speak for studies, I can only speak for myself and I can assure you categorically I have no attraction to women, my only lesbian experience was with a friend when I was younger, we made out and I leaned more towards repulsed than aroused.
But your vagina probably had an involuntary reaction to the kiss, so you're bi, obviously. *sarcasm*
How old where you when you made out with this girl? And why would you want to make out with another girl in the first place if you are straight?
It was a teenage dare game called "Spin the bottle" one of the boys dared us, I was about 14.
They are. The face is what they're most attracted to ( if we are wearing clothes)
I'm very attracted to the male body hehehe (*^ω^*) *flashback*
I disagree... girls are aroused by the male body
I once asked about this and they said they do check out our butts, bulges, legs calves and even our voices
They check it out, but it doesn't actually sexually arouse them.
Why would they check it out if they're not aroused by it? Most girls masturbate vocally... meaning they can masturbate from just hearing a male voice moaning I've asked about this you should check my profile and see for yourself
Ok, ill look
It was just one girl who said that though
I chat on different apps not just this one lol
It's not true.
Not this again
So a guys body alone makes you want to sleep with him?
Who told you that bullshit. Women get turned on by mens' bodies. Likewise, there are some women who will fuck a guy solely on how he looks. Horndogs are EVERYWHERE!
Where? I've never met one who has said that.
@Anon-ymous1, so? I've met a few.
Male body is ugly. I don’t blame women for being lesbians.
The male body when in shape is more aesthetically pleasing.
Maybe if I had you’re gay
I aesthetically pleasing, not sexually attractive or arousing. Showing it isn't because the female body looks better, it's just the warped sexuality that women have, otherwise gay men would be aroused by the female body too.
So you are attracted to the male body eh Mark?
Thinking something looks good is far from being sexually aroused by it.
@douride2 you’ve told me you’re bi sexual
All girls are bi
I’m aware of that
@ASker I have never told you I am.
Opps that was meant for @Swolebuser
@douride2 you’ve told me in messages
Yeah she has to be bosexual
*bisexual
She told me in messages on a different account
How do you know it's her if it was from a different account?
I was on a different account you
O you where on a different account ok. Hahaha douride even you admit you are bisexual.
She’s a huge lesb
There is a saying that all woman have bisexual stuff inside them.
I’m convinced that women don’t even like sex. I’ve seen way too many women be offended by sexual jokes and sexual pictures. If you show a man a sexual pic or tell him a sexual joke, he’ll be fine. If you do that to women, they get offended like little pussies
A sad myth men believe. Women love dick and if you refuse it from them in relationships by controlling the supply and demand effect of sexual arousal they become even more desperate for sex than men.
Downvote? Obviously not one who has tried consciously experimenting with the ability of supply and demand to effect sexual arousal in a relationship.
They are
A guys body as a standalone does not make a girl want to sleep with a guy (at least for most girls).
Caz lots of men won't lick a clit.
F****** Hell. Not this load of old f****** b******* again.
Well it has been shown in tests that women are more aroused by the female body. Also lesbian porn is by far the most popular genre of porn to women.
BS Complete and utter f****** BS.
indiana.edu/.../Chivers_Seto_Blanchard_2007.pdf well her is the scientific peer reviewed study that shows women are more aroused by the female body and lesbian porn. And just go looking at the viewing habits of women on pornhub, the statistics show women most prefer lesbian porn.
For Christ's sake porn is just f****** acting. smh
I am not talking about he women in the porn, I am talking about the women watching the porn. You changing your tune now? it shows women are more aroused by other women, you think women who are aroused by lesbian porn are straight?
Still can't get a women eh?
Still think women are straight?
How do you get away with posting the same question over & over?
They made them into one question
"They made them into one question" Okay, so now you have this one question and people can reply to it. There's absolutely no need to post this ever again. Glad we agree.
Yet you ask again.
Similiar questions are not the same question.
Then why did GaG lump yours together, you goddamn spammer?
Degree of similiarity. And apparently you admit to being bisexual too.
Sorry thought you where douride2, she admitted to being bisexual
Are you as confused about your sexuality as you are about where your commenting. LMAO hahaha
Haha
It was under you comment and I quickly corrected it. So you are bisexual huh? Well I knew you where but... you admit it now?
I never admitted anything to you. Your the guy who seems to be quite confused.
He's clearly a closeted gay. I don't even have a single doubt about that. lol
This swole guy does nothing but insult other people on GaG. Just scroll through his opinions. All he does is bash other users. Why he hasn't been banned yet, I don't know. So yeah, I wouldn't believe a single word coming from that guy.
Eah even women who say they are straight are aroused by leabian porn.
Start posting with your user name or quit this nonsense.
Yet you have no proof other wise?
I have no proof otherwise of what? You are being vague.
Again? Maybe the women you encounter, they are attracted to male bodies, but your personality turns them off to whatever body you may have.
So a guys body alone makes you want to sleep with him?
If they have the body of channing tatum, um hell yeah. Maybe you're just ugly bruh.
Channing Tatum generally doesn't have a good body most of the time, he just got in shape for magic mike. Are you aroused by the female body at all?
Really? He has a better body than most men even on his bad days. Attractive body is attractive, and a turn on
Yeah most men have pathetic bodies, and channings body is not impressive to me most of the time, sometimes he will get in shape for a certain role buts then lose the muscle again. You are probably just attracts to his face. And as I asked... Are you aroused by the female body at all?
No his abs is pretty impressive. And those biceps. And let's not forget Jon Hamm's ehem ham.
Are you aroused by the female body at all?
Aroused, in the way that whatever is done to her, I can feel it to. Are you going to call me a lesbian too?
So you are aroused by lesbian porn then?
Yes because I'm looking at the girl having the orgasm as me
Then you are putting yourself in the place a of a women who is getting an orgasm by another women, you have a fluid sexuality and are unable to be considered heterosexual. I have literally studied this at a tertiary level. Why women who masturbate to lesbian porn ARE NOT STRAIGHT! ↗ read that and tell me how you are straight
Is this for college project purposes? First of all, it wasn't specified in your question to argue on women's sexuality? You're just saying that you believe men's bodies are so damn ugly no one can be attracted to it. And when I opined that you're wrong, you dismissed it because all you wanna do is call women lesbian or bisexual?
And I read your rambles. Men do get turned on watching someone suck dick, regardless of who it is. Otherwise, why would there be so many rape cases in prisons? Are you saying all these men are gay? why would there be so many cases of men with their penis stuck in places like pies or watermelon? How do you explain glory holes? Are all guys gay too or bisexual? Hm? I'll wait.
"Men do get turned on watching someone suck dick, regardless of who it is." indiana.edu/.../Chivers_Seto_Blanchard_2007.pdf not according to this scientific peer reviewed study, men only get aroused if a women sucks it. No guy gets off to gay porn and claims to be straight. Rape in prison most of the time is gang punishment, slow puncture and the sort, not for pleasure. If you think you are straight when you are aroused by lesbian porn, then you have to say people who are aroused by child porn aren't pedophiles.
So I've read the paper, and it's very interesting. Did you read it? Properly, I mean. 1. The research proves that the sexual responses man and women have differ when watching porn. Women respond to the sexual activity that is shown, while men generally respond to the gender of the actors. Hence, just because a woman gets aroused watching lesbian porn, does not mean she is a lesbian; she is responding to the intense exercise that is going on. 2. Straight men do get turned on by watching male porn, more so on male to male interaction (pg 1115, 1117, 1118). Just that the degree of intensity is less than of a female, but it still occurs.
3. The paper explicitly said in pg 1119, that a women cannot be defined bisexual simply due to her sexual genital response, because that is taking light of women sexuality. Whether a woman is straight or lesbian or bi is more related to the romantic attachment one has for her partner. 4. Heterosexual women have been recorded to have less response for nude male, compared to homosexual women (pg 1117). So, just because a woman is not responding to a naked man, does not mean she is gay. So, yes, this paper did mention guys also get genital responses watching guys. I get that you're a freshman doing your first gender study class. Otherwise, why would you be so uneducated about the intricacies of human sexuality?
She (chivers) calls women ostensibly straight. And men show such little arousal to men it doesn't even count, like they wouldn't even be noticeably aroused in real life (if you asked them if they where aroused they would so no, and they would believe it), they certainly aren't aroused enough to get hard or masturbate to it (while women are noticeably aroused and masturbate to other women). Have you seen the difference in the graph? It's about 50 fold between men being aroused by men, and women getting aroused by women. And the graph also does show that women are more aroused by other women than they are by men. Even the control of what I remember to be snow falling gets an arousal reading so... can you really say the men are aroused? Read up on Riegers study, he says women are bisexual and men are straight, and Chivers of this study collaborates with him on it, so she must share that view.
Give me the paper. I'll read it. I rather trust an actually well-researched paper over your flawed logic that only applies when you're defending your own opinion. "If you asked them if they were aroused, they would say no and they believe it." How would this logic not apply like "if you ask a straight girl if she is lesbian, she would say no and she believes it"? If you're insisting that this girl is not straight even when she believed it to be, then surely men who got a genital response (response is response, big or small) watching guys in porn were aroused, even when they believed they didn't. It's in the graph data (pg 1115).
But you know you are aroused by lesbian porn. The other girl I am saying isn't straight admits know she is more aroused by naked women than by naked men. The arousal level men experienced to a man masturbating is the same arousal level women experienced to snow failing, so are we aroused by everything or are the bottom levels of the graph not enough to be considered arousal. You can't read Gerulf Reigers study online for free, but you can read of it's findings, just type his name and something to do with sexuality in google. He flat out says "women are either bisexual or lesbian, but never straight".
"Then you are putting yourself in the place of a woman who is getting an orgasm by another women, you have a fluid sexuality and are unable to be considered heterosexuality" - in reference to me just watching lesbian porn
I don't see what you are trying to get at with your last reply (not kidding).
You are insane if you think you are straight when you are aroused by lesbian porn.
Still? Do you really have a tertiary education? You claimed that you've met a lot of girls like me who claim to be straight but do not fit your profile. Instead of thinking there's a pattern of women behaviour that maybe you don't understand yet, you took the easy road and just say all of us girls are wrong because we're insane. I think you'll fit right as a doctor in any mental institute in the 1700s.
What? The scientists from the study agree women are bisexual. Dual PHD dr Reiger flat out says "women are either bisexual or lesbian but never straight".
The best article I can find to engage in this conversation is the one in BBC, titled 'no woman totally straight'. Based on my understanding, 1. They concluded that no woman is totally straight, but found that 28% of the women participants of the study are predominantly attracted to their gender of preference. So 28% equates to 0% women? 2. Rieger actually explained to Yahoo “[F]or a lot of women, what’s going on in their mind is disconnected from what’s going on in their lower body. If you tell me you’re straight, I won’t discredit that—I’m sure you are.” even in the BBC article, he stated that women are not truly straight BUT their sexuality is more complex than male sexuality.
3. On the evolutionary angle, Rieger’s new study reviews literature that suggests that “[w]omen may have evolved to be sexually responsive in sexual context-dependent situations [rather than gender-dependent situations] in order to avoid genital injury.” In other words, because many species engage in forced heterosexual copulation, women’s genitals could be responsive to a wider variety of stimuli as a form of self-preservation. Hence why women may not be as attracted to male bodies as much a female. Because it hurts when you're being penetrated. Would you be attracted to step on a cactus more than a lily pad?
4. The American Psychological Association (APA) defines sexual orientation as “an ENDURING pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes.” and cannot be simply defined from some occasional genital tingling.
www.thedailybeast.com/um-yes-straight-women-are-real
If you have it, please send me the report on Dr rieger's study. I'd like to read it comprehensively.
So still not straight. Most closer to being lesbian than straight and 28% as simply bisexual. Reiger later said that he won't doubt they are straight if they claim to be as the pc brigade was angry at is intial of "women are either bisexual or lesbian but never straight", they even sent messages to his university in protest. Think of it girl, a random guy sends you pic of himself naked and you will say "eww", but lesbian sex "yumm better masturbate" and you think you are straight? Hahahahaha
*at his initial comments
You can't view Reigers online for free but you can read of it's findings. He flat out says "women are either bisexual or lesbian but never straight".
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That works for awhile. But no money no girl.
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