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I'm not writing this to insult the asker or shame her in any way. This is also not meant as an attack.
The asker in question wrote this. And when girls say things like "I dated a lot of bad guys and I had enough, now I want a good guy" I can only take it as insult.
A lot of us "nice guys" (as an aside, this term is toxic as hell; The implication nowadays is that a "nice guy" is just a dude befriending you for sex) have to wait a long, long time before women our age finally sober up.
Basically, while you're out partying with "Jamal" and having a good time, we are holding a steady job and being mostly alone, because we aren't "bad" or "cool" enough. Meaning we actually cared, we actually wanted to be romantic and good to you, but of course, that wasn't exciting enough.
And then, after years or months of you having your fun and your fill with the bad boys we get the older, weary you as second helpings. We were the 10th choice (after you get exasperated with bad boys), or the 20th... the whatever we are the last in line, because we are stable, nice, loving and caring. Something it takes you years of dating to figure out you really wanted.
And MOST of us nice guys waited so long for a mate of any kind we succumb and simply accept this, that we will always be the thousandth fiddle to whatever fun wild flings you had, that we never got to experience because of the nature of our lives versus yours, and you reap the rewards of a stable lover and a life of fun and wild times.
While we get what? A tired burnt out lady seeking stability? As I said I'm not here to insult you, or shame you, or any of these things. I'm here to point out the injustice of this, and hope women see it.
I'm not one of the nice guys that call you slut or a "cum dumpster" because you had plenty of sex with the bad boys. No. Some of the guys here writing takes about "Nice Guys" are telling you a truth you need to hear but they are going about it the wrong way. Insulting you will not get you to listen to them. I'll try to explain it to you without the insults and vitriol.
What you need to understand is that these nice guys you passed over, who in many cases are no longer acting like nice guys anymore, are human beings just like anyone else. For years they have tried to get your attention and be the kind of guy they thought you wanted, and had to sit back and watch while you passed them by and turned your own attention to guys that they felt did not deserve you. They had to sit at home alone and make love to their socks while you went off and had wild sexual adventures with jerks and assholes.
Over time this made them bitter and this made them look at you differently. You were no longer this sweet girl that they wanted to treat as their princess, you were just another chick who wanted nothing to do with them and instead gave attention and her body to the same two or three top dogs that all the other girls were trying to get with.
Then, after all of those lonely years, they hear you saying:
"Well, that ride was fun, but now it's over so I'm willing to grace you with my presence now".
How are these guys supposed to react? "Well I'm glad you had fun and don't worry about all those years I've been sitting here by myself waiting for you"? It doesn't work like that. Just as you are no longer the girl who rejected them for all those years, they are no longer that nice guy that you passed over. The fact that they are now either bitter lonely guys who want nothing to do with you, or they have actually improved themselves and make a life of their own to just not wanting to settle with a girl that has been all used up by the bad boys.Your rejection of them is a big part of the reason they are like this now.
There's no going back now. You can't "unfuck" all those guys who ended up treating you wrong, you can't "reverse" all the emotional baggage you took for all those years, and they can't get back all those lonely nights they spent pining over the person they thought you were. It's a sad ending but that's the reality for girls who do this and for guys who were worth having. Eventually you'll most likely find a guy who will swallow his pride and pretend he's OK with your past and probably end up letting you walk all over him in the hopes that his acquiescence will get you to stick around....but will you even really want that guy?
Talking for myself, I've seen many questions and myTakes of girls explaining why they no longer want the bad boy and why there are no good guys left, but spend barely a paragraph on why a nice guy should be interested in them.
While you were partying or crying over being stood up, nice guys were writing you poems, trying asking girls on dates that may never happen or ended up badly, going to church (religious guys), volunteering to charity, visiting and helping seniors, working hard and advancing their careers and probably finding a nice girl that does the same along the way. Much like how you realized that bad boys aren't worth the effort, nice guys learn that women like yourself are best to be avoided as well.
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33 64Mr Anonymous, you described the experiences of my teenage and 20-something years and how I came to hold the view of women that I do today.
During my teens and 20s I had everything that women were supposed to want, but I could almost not get a date because I was not a scumbag.
Then, after they turned 30, women began to come sniffing around me like bitches on heat.
They still do, even at my somewhat advanced age.
Just last week three women hit on me and two of them asked me for my mobile telephone number.
When women approach me, what I see and hear is a woman who would not have given me the time of day when she was 20.
My view is that they can go back to the bad boys who made their crotches tingle when they were 20.
By now Harley MacBadBoy, Chad Thundercock and Ivor Necktattoo would have morphed into Mini Me versions of their alcoholic (or stoner) singlet-wearing fathers in the trailer park.
Enjoy your 'exciting' bad boys. You deserve each other.
LOL, THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING!! Love you brother. Everything you wrote is absofuckinglutely true. These women who got banged by thugs, bad boys, low life scum now want to get married with the high achieving successful guy. Such women are disgrace to society but guess what, The nice guy they want to settle for now is way more intelligent and no longer a nice guy and he is pretty good now in smelling sluts and rejecting them soon. Now these hoes become feminists, and teach the younger women in her teens to fuck as many guys as they can because they want all women to suffer the pain they went through. These women are emotionally fucked up, and any guy that they get involved with, they are going to make that guy's life a living fucking hell. Bloody sluts hoes, i won't even touch these sluts with my cock even if they pay me 10 million dollars. Used piece of garbage now want to land the nice guy who they rejected 5 billion cocks ago.
"By now Harley MacBadBoy, Chad Thundercock and Ivor Necktattoo would have morphed into Mini Me versions of their alcoholic (or stoner) singlet-wearing fathers in the trailer park. Enjoy your 'exciting' bad boys. You deserve each other." Nicely put.
TLDR - but my guess is you're confusing 'nice' with 'kind' or 'good.
You don't have to be a beta-chump to be a kind person, but no high-dominance alpha guy is gonna put up with so much bullshit. He just doesn't have the time or inclination, and he really doesn't have to cuz the girls are always throwing themselves at him, wanting to have sex with him hoping she can land him to be hers, which is also highly unlikely.
I don't think there is injustice going on here. There are girls AND boys who want to party it up while they are young, and then settle down when they get older. There's no conspiracy against "nice guys" like yourself who didn't do well on the hookup market. Just keep looking for the "nice girl" of your dreams and don't worry about everyone else.
Too many bitter "nice guys" on this site. Color me surprised.
Bahaha yeah it's funny how when bad guys change and want a good girl, it's not looked down upon. Fucking shitheads 😂
There is no injustice, noone is entitled to nothing, except if he is handicap and needs health care etc.
Many have judgedvme and are still doing it cause I'm not a bad girl but after reading this I feel much better and maybe even proud of myself.. lol
Feel proud
This just shows that you are normal but in the wrong company where respecting yourself is shamed. Don't change, you'll regret it
Funny seeing all the triggered self-proclaimed "nice guys" because half of the time you aren't as nice as you say you are. I remember talking to this "nice guy" when I was younger that went on a rant after he told me that he liked me, but I didn't feel the same. He started calling me a whore and a slut when I had never had a boyfriend or had sex before. I like a guy that will treat me well and is romantic, and just because someone has tattoos or dresses a certain way doesn't make them a douchebag or just because someone looks "nice" doesn't mean that they actually are. In my experience, these "nice guys" that complain on the internet aren't liked by women because they are ugly, whiny, and entitled.
But on the flip side it is also true that an awful lot of genuinely nice guys d get rejected while women go off with the bad men.
Preaaaach!!!
Hell yes!
That doesn't change the fact that even the genuine nice guys get turned down for bad men. Women just have bad taste in men and then complain when they get treated badly.
@HandsomeGuy500 is that you speaking from experience? Maybe you called her a whore or an idiot too many times and that’s why you get rejected
@dantheman1990 Not at all, white knight.
You're only 19 years of age. You'll understand once you hit your mid 20s. Give it time and you'll be hating your 19 year old self for saying such crap.
@Tw1nm3t3or You're 24 just wait until you get older, you'll be in denial but miserable with your poor choice in a woman.
@azzntittiz and who the hell said i was going to choose a snot?
@Tw1nm3t3or You will choose a woman you think is quality and she will disappoint you greatly, then you'll end up crying over a stripper who is better at everything she couldn't do, and I don't mean just sex.
@azzntittiz I don't think I was clear so I'll make it easier for you this time:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way
@azzntittiz and proof being your piss poor attitude before you go there. :)
@Tw1nm3t3or I don't give a shit about fags going the anal way.
@azzntittiz :) I guess you'll figure it out the hard way.
@Tw1nm3t3or What an idiot you are, do you plan to shoot up the place or what? what I gotta be worried about son? : )
@azzntittiz how about you stop talking like a retarded 12 year old?
and act your age?
nothing more pathetic that a 30 year old woman who acts and talks like a child.
@Tw1nm3t3or calm your man tits 😂
@Richareens no you shut the fuck up actually. Let the grown ups talk.
17-19 year old women who think they know how dating works. You don't even have the slightest clue yet of how bad its going to get.
@Tw1nm3t3or Lmao alright
Talk about grown ups and being triggered in a millisecond boy bye
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Very well said. Its very disappointing to see this happening to genuine good men who do not deserve such. I find it quite funny how girls who haven't even hit their 20s yet are laughing at the bitterness that they create. If we as honest hard working men have to go through YEARS of pain and bitterness, why should we deal with settling with the surprising changed woman who after countless dicks sucked and fucked THINK they deserve a chance at a stable life?
Its completely insulting as you said and absolutely disgusting to think they are entitled to such a life after destroying ours.
We don't deserve to take care of the 30 year old scraps. We work our asses off and them some on our careers and lives, but no way in hell should it be shared with those who make it hard for us to start.
I'm not saying all women are bad there are few good honest ones out there but its THOSE women that deserve to be given a chance. Not those who put us through years of frustration, sadness and bitterness.
I LOVE YOU MAN
Its the best post I saw on this website.
These women end up in rehab or commit suicide.
I want to give this post 100000 likes,
Funny, not once during your diatribe did I think, "Wow! What a nice guy!"
Bad boys lol. Most of the fannies girls think are bad boys are just wankers who swagger like they're something and talk out of the side of their mouths. They're posers who piss their pants as soon as you get in their face. The real bad boys don't act like that. They're usually nice to talk to and easy going until you cross them then you find out what a real bad boy is.
good girls are bad girls that haven't been caught.
Everytime you ask something different in a relationship, bad boys do have that something.
The way it always has been... us good nice guys end up having to be patient and wait for the ladies to get the wild oates out of their system wanting the bad guys and then as they mature and get older finally after all that time realize they want the nice guy go figure. Why not just have him from the start, what's the deal?
To be precise--woman date the most exciting guys they can and try to get them to commit.
A few succeed. The rest eventually decide to try to get security and financial support by marrying a beta.
Simple example: a classmate in college, cute girl, fell head over heels for an "exciting guy" who banged her for a bit then dumped her and went back to picking up girls at bars, etc. She later married a older balding chubbt guy and got fat herself.
Another classmate with daddy issues left home and moved in with a black guy. They eventually married. 2 years now? I dont recall exactly.
And a friend of mine was an exciting guy. Bold, bodybuilder, etc. His parents helped him dodge jail for drugs and he married a cute adopted Asian girl. Now he's in jail for beating her up, and she's a young divorcee showing her tits off on facebook.
Yes yes yes. All kinds of yes to this!
there's plenty of girls who dont slut around in their young days. Why dont you guys get with them?
I think there is way too much guys complaining about having to get sloppy seconds, but if you had spent the same effort into getting with decent girls instead of sluts, you would have one by now
I think you are right to an extent. The average looking chic sitting in front row looking like a nerd with small Boobs and no make up. She prolly had a crush on you but you ignored her because you wanted that hot sexy birch with monstrous Boobs and bulky ass
@Hungry_Shark exactly man. I think i have been guilty of this myself. Going for the hottest looking chicks, who were maybe not as interested, and ignoring sweet girls who may have been interested. Wish i could tell the old me that i could have something good going on for myself if i just observed a bit more
The Plain Janes where I went to school treated me like chalk dust. And the only hotties that weren't taken or hos, were mental cases that hated me for no reason. I know at least one of them went to jail. Don't know about the others. If I ignored a gal at college, she never noticed. Rejecting a gal only made her vindictive, and she'd make sure all the other girls mistook me for Hitler or something.
@ObscuredBeyond well im sorry to hear that. Maybe the average girls at your school were pretty snobby as well. Pretty much every girl at the second school i went to was like that. But when i got to know a few of them closer they seemed alright. And i knew some nice girls from other schools. The point is , they aren't easy to find, not at all, but its worth searching.
Why should the choose you?
Right now, you sound whiney!!
He's whiny* because of you shits who can't even spell.
The question I always ask those public vaginas is this: What makes you think you deserve a good guy?
Then they get triggered and press the dislike button.
And the same question can be asked to guys. What makes you think you deserve a good girl?
Be simple with women;
She ignores you then wants to date --> Tell her to fuck off
She acts like a bitch --> Tell her to fuck off
She says you're *** - bad connotation --> Tell her to fuck off
She acts normally and as a respectful woman --> Date her
good take mate
my advice to all men is just avoid sluts and hoes.
@azzntittiz wow rude much and iam just 22 yo old lady
you old lady*
@azzntittiz Are you a slut?
@burpzzzzz Yes, but I'm not old and ugly.
Just use em for what they're worth and dump them to grow old alone
Yeah who wants a used up girl. Anyway when guys get to like 30 they usually date 21 year olds anyway, not girls their own age.