Is Porn Really Ruining People? Let's Discuss

[mouthofswords]

Hi. This is my first myTake to GaG and thought I'd break the ice by sharing some thoughts on sexuality and the state of the social climate towards sex in general. It's not difficult to see the influence of porn in different aspects of life. Did you ever see a popular female video game character with small breasts or not "attractive" in some way? They're video games for christ sake ..so why the big, floppy unrealistic breasts all of a sudden?

Porn influence is everywhere (Television, Fashion, Music, Art), and the danger of that is desensitization. In other words, what was sexy, attractive and engaging becomes boring and uninteresting over time, This is the reason why porn is increasingly beyond realistic and rather unattractive: vomit, slapping, bondage, pissing, incest role playing, and on and on are replacing what you and I would consider 'normal' sex. People look for the next best thing because the thing that turned them on last summer is now boring and ineffective due to repeated continuous exposure.

Sex used to be a thing people looked forward to. Now sex is about competition - who is better? who has the biggest cock? Who has the tightest pussy? It's emphasized in almost every magazine to being "creative" or better in the bedroom, spicing things up with new hand movements and ways to drive your partner into a whimsical sex frenzy. Hell, now ass is apparently the new vagina! (thanks Cosmo magazine - thumbs up on that).

If you look at mainstream film and comedy, the facial, comeshot or anal joke is more prevalent today than ever before and is seemingly widely accepted as "normal" . The reason is these unrealistic and forced porn aspects in society directly come from the porn industry. And why wouldn't the porn industry be an influence on society? The billions of dollars that production companies bring in from their products which cater to a young market, thereby in turn make those viewers think that what they're seeing is how people react and interact with one another in the bedroom.

The porn industry brings in almost as much money as Hollywood itself and is practically untouchable. It is a powerhouse that will always be there. Unmoving and unflinching from it's current monetary position in the business world. Do you see porn ever going out of style? That would mean people as a whole would lose interest in sex all together, which will never happen. While sex itself is normal and healthy, porn takes what is normal and healthy and makes it into a monopolized sleaze fest by telling young men and women that what they're seeing is "normal".

Ladies, how many times have you been fucked by the plumber, or pizza delivery guy or any number of shoehorned opportunity positions which would seemingly be easy for a guy to exploit for easy sex? probably not very high on the to-do list I would imagine. Porn tells men that women are easy. just dangle your cock over an all-meat multi cheese pizza pie and BAM! Instant invitation for a two handed, enthusiastic wet blowjob! AND THAT of course leads to him and his buddies (who are just conveniently waiting in the pizza-mobile) for some double anal gangbang creampie action!

If you think that sounds fucking ridiculous and unrealistic, you're right.

What's not unrealistic is the fact that a 14 year old knows what a gangbang creampie orgy is. And this should unsettle you. Imagine being that age and exposed to seeing a woman being brutally penetrated, crying, make-up running, face swollen from tears and slaps, body blotched with pink finger indentations from rough hands all over her, and hair stringy, slicked back and caked with spit, piss and semen.... this is something that a young kid can readily access on the good ol' web, and ALL before they understand the concept of good amazing sex within the context of trust, respect, and the warmth of a healthy relationship. Not so sexy now is it?

In closing, the desensitization will do a number on millions of men due to being "brainwashed" and hardwired to only become sexually aroused WHEN watching porn and not from the comfort and warmth of a real woman. It's already happening - the rate of erectile dysfunction is out of control and most cases can be attributed to watching porn. This is clearly a male problem since most of the buyers and viewers of porn are male statistically speaking. This feeds into the food and drug administration, who are more than glad to throw a box of Cialis or Viagra your way if you're having problems (most male porn stars use these drugs to keep the illusion that they're actually turned on and NOT just doing a day to day "job").

Everyone is rubbing each others back as the smut monopoly becomes richer and richer and these large money conglomerates don't show much concern about the problems they're helping create. As porn becomes more like "fast food" and technology advances leaps and bounds into the hyper virtual environment - Society will be a strange phenomena within 30 years when people (most of which who do not look like porn stars) stop interacting with each other because of being hungrily tapped into a more-real-than-real interactive sex world they can't have in person.

Food for thought. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Cheers

[nirala_na]

Awesome take. Having been struggling with my fiancee's porn addiction (he's only 22.. ) for the last year (he was hiding it from me for over 3 years, lying for the entire time we've been together, he also does not want to tell me how early he started..), porn is outrageous to me and how socially accepted it is to be watching it. It ruins relationships, happiness, confidence. It is prostitution being filmed, that is all! Would most of those people have the guts to go to the brothel and ask to watch a prostitute masturbating or a guy and her having sex? Of course not. Porn is too easily accessible and free - that is the problem!

It's a quick release that is so damn addictive. Long term it brings nothing good. If only people could realise that..

The consequences of his porn addiction broke our relationship. It's never going to be the same. It hurt me so much as well in many ways.. It would be another great subject for MyTake - I might actually do it. It's such a broad subject that I consider writing a book or at least an e-book about it. The more resources, the better.

To sum it up - it's great to see a young man who actually understands how harmful porn is and is not a typical "lad" - keep it up and spread awareness and good word, thank you!

[sedrftvgyhujik]

You broke up with a guy just for watching porn (something nearly every guy and many girls do) or he broke up with you? Hope you didn't make him wait till marriage as well?

[nirala_na]

@sedrftvgyhujik What are you on about? BROKEN relationship does not mean we broke up. Stop talking garbage - you don't know the whole story. Lies hurt more than the actions themselves. Before you express your opinion next time and start being judgmental without knowing the whole picture, maybe use your brain and ask more insightful questions.

[nirala_na]

@sedrftvgyhujik "Hope you didn't make him wait till marriage as well?" What's with the intended 'insult'? How immature are you?

[mouthofswords]

Hey thanks! It was inspired from some of the things I've noticed in the past 5 - 6 years + both times through college. One of the dudes I studied with in my dorm dated a girl at school - they got a room one night and things got busy quickly, after about 30 minutes of foreplay when it was time to perform - he FLAT OUT couldn't get hard. She tried to get him up with her hands AND mouth and no dice. She told her friends at school that she blew him for 10 minutes and he was soft as a noodle. It was all around our social groups and parties and he was basically the butt-end of a joke for what seemed like the entire semester. We sat down with him and he confided with us (his 4 dorm mates) that he jerked off every day and had no problem AT ALL getting off to watching videos or pictures of girls. His doctor suggested that he was used to his own hand and not a mouth or vagina. He quit porn and within 3 months he was back to normal. Symptoms could have been testicle cancer but it was fucking porn.

[nirala_na]

Yeah, sounds familiar to me - but in this case it was me and my fiancee! It's so humiliating for a girl - it either feels as if the guy is not interested, not attracted, not excited and I'm not enough for him. It's horrible. For the first couple of years I have never been aware of the reason/cause, even after looking it up on the Internet, I trusted him so much so I didn't even think that he uses porn.. Then he got caught, lying to me for over 3 years ("I never watched porn in my life, it's disgusting"). Not all men get erectile dysfunction, but a big part of guys will, especially when they start going over the top with it - watching it too often, choosing the virtual filth over the real love making etc. There are many websites devoted to porn addictions, but I still think not enough people understand or even attempt to understand the problem. It should be definitely more stressed in the society, but then again porn is such a huge industry so someone would be losing money

[mouthofswords]

Exactly right on all points. That dude was just one example, but I've read countless articles and blogs with people having the same problems as those guys. The girl he was with actually spread that she thought he might be gay lol he was kinda crushed. THAT is how bad shit can get. Imagine being ABLE to have sex and have the desire for it but not working because you're wired to only get off to visual stimulation from porn. That is a nightmare unto itself.

[sedrftvgyhujik]

Seems strange to me to be able to get hard to porn but not sex? Sex is like porn but you and all of your scenes are much more involved with extra bits and the odd fuck up that didn't get edited out? Sure your less likely to use some of the positions in porn there meant for the camera and some are a lot harder to maintain than it has to be. Although getting use to your hands can be a problem for finishing if your to firm but you don't have to be and in 2016 there are tools to make it more real that can get round that if its an issue!

[mouthofswords]

@sedrftvgyhujik Man it's soo much easier to get the attention of a nice girl you like and then make love to her until she passes out in your arms - nothing more rewarding than that.

[sedrftvgyhujik]

Of coarse Casanova In fact I think I may be even more lazy and just back flip my way around to go find her because it's just so much easyer than walking! For the rest of us not lucky enough to have a constantly horny girlfriend or boyfriend on tap if your a girl or swing the other way we need a plan B.

[bbch25]

Can I ask, and this isn't me questioning you just curious, how did it take so long to realise? Like, when did he watch all this porn, especially after you're engaged and (assuming) living together by that point?

[nirala_na]

@bbch25 He got over caught over 2 years in. Before I didn't realise as I trusted him so much and even when I was checking his stuff, I've never noticed anything suspicious looking. Even after he got caught, he was so convincing he'll never do it again that after some time I let it go, meanwhile I should've done what I did after the last relapse - install monitoring on the devices plus the router itself. Before I was counting on his honesty, but the last time I trusted my intuition and installed something he wasn't aware of. He never admitted anything and was lying to me all the time until I showed him the proof. I've got some regrets that I didn't install the software to monitor everything earlier - but hey ho, I can't go back in the past. Every day is a school day.

[bbch25]

True, I think it shows you're a good person to want to give trust a chance and work on tings again. You were right in what you did. I was just curious as to when he gets the time! Like, my partner never watches it, and I find it easy to believe because he's at work all day, and then I'm home whenever he's here (I do my things while he's at work), so I trust he's telling the truth because WHEN could he really do it. It's crazy though how people can lie like that. I mean at least own up to it once caught out. Hopefully things are better?

[nirala_na]

@bbch25 Thanks! It wasn't easy, the last time I was quite literally about to move out, even packed most of my stuff. I just couldn't take it that he even wasn't feeling that sorry for what he did (I was expecting he would..) and how he lied to me, I outsmarted him and he was angry with that. We had a very bad argument, ended up with him throwing my engagement ring down the toilet because I told him I'm leaving him etc. It was seriously so bad. But eventually, after a week or so, we worked it out. It was a very rough time and he knows next time he lies to me about anything with porn, he's got 12 hours to tell me. If he doesn't, I'm leaving without a word. So far it's been quite good actually, thanks for asking! We've had a couple of arguments every so often, but nothing major including him watching filth. He's been without porn for over a month now. That's good that whenever your partner is at home, you are too. It definitely makes it so much less likely he's up to something.

[nirala_na]

The worrying part is that about a few months ago, I've seen things on his phone that he most likely looked up when at his work or outside the house.. I'm not saying your guys does it, because most likely not so you've got nothing to worry about. :) As long as there's no signs (e. g. erectile dysfunction, his poor self-esteem and lower than usual sex drive etx.), he doesn't lie. I also work from home most of the time, apart from 1 day when I'm going to the office. On top of that, I meet with my friend for a few hours once every couple of months. Imagine, that my guy managed to watch porn as soon as I'm out of the door (1 day a week from 7am till 4pm! c'mon..), we've also had a block for porn since October, but he looks up the pictures on Google, nudity on video sharing services - how sneaky is that? The most hurtful thing in this whole mess is that I never say no to sex - I'm the one with higher sexual drive but he most of the time rejects me.

[nirala_na]

There's so much more to it, but most importantly I'm happy it's better now and hopefully it will stay that way. :)

[bbch25]

I can't believe you got a downvote for this. And I can understand how hard it is and how much it can suck to not get the apology you wanted. My partner was not being entirely honest about his conversations with his ex (who he's friends with) and this wasn't the first time, so it resulted in my almost leaving and big discussions and I was mostly surprised that he tried to be annoyed at me or say how it's not a big deal or this or that, like no just be quiet and apologise! How hard is that. It's horrible he practically puts the role of the victim as himself because you found out instead of saying "god I know I'm sorry I have a problem" or something. I really hope he has stopped, perhaps seeing a counsellor or something would help him. And that's one of the worst isn't it, when you have a high sex drive, you're always interested in doing things and pleasing and they can't be there for you, because of this. I wish you the best and hope he is improving his ways.

[nirala_na]

@bbch25 Yeah, I can relate to that - it's so annoying and disrespectful when your significant one doesn't seem to have any empathy and just perceives things as "unimportant", not even taking into consideration it is important to his partner! Sometimes it's also the case when the lie hurts more than the action itself, e. g. I personally wouldn't be that hurt, mad and disappointed if he came to me and told about the porn usage, instead of lying. Sure, I would be still quite upset, but a lot less. Perhaps you would feel a bit better about the conversation with his ex if he didn't lie to you. Maybe it's worth reminding him in case it happens next time, that he just makes it look more dodgy by lying? And that there's no need to hide anything as you'll understand him whatever it is and the lie will always come out.

[nirala_na]

@bbch25 Exactly! It sucks wanting to please him, but he "isn't in the mood" - just because he couldn't wait an hour or 2 (or maybe even less, who knows) for me to come home, so he wasted his "mood" on someone else. :/ Also you'd (and most people would) think that if a guy gets enough love, both physical and spiritual, he'll never watch porn. Nothing more wrong! I think the reason why is because my fiancee was addicted to the filth years before he met me, I know he was (his dad caught him many times and I don't think he ever stopped watching it since he started in his teenage years), but he still didn't admit it to me - although anything he says in this subject now I most likely won't believe because he's lied to me too many times. Thanks and I also wish you all the best for you and your partner, I hope things with his honesty will improve and both of you will be very happy with each other! x

[Anonymous]

Porn ruins relationships. It also ruins a guy libido and can give young men ED. It happened to me. It ruined my last relationship and I hurt her badly. I didn't realize how much I had hurt her until it was too late.

[AgentOfChaos]

In my opinion, Interracial pornography is the most dangerous and misleading porn out there, and it seems to be increasingly prominent. It usually comes with the side caveat of the girls in these scenes cuckolding & humiliating White men by ridiculing them for ever believing their inferior White dicks could ever satisfy them— which is even more disturbing. Interracial porn has already created a troubling real world effect because I've talked online with young teenage girls who are virgins, who have been convinced by pornography that White men are totally inadequate & incapable lovers. So they've reached the conclusion that their first time should be with a black guy since they are physically superior to White guys in bed, thus ensuring a better experience. I've literally encountered young girls using the internet to find single black boys they have no current romantic connection, or familiarity in any way, just because there aren't any in their hometowns or communities. They've said they aren't really even physically attracted to them, but porn has brainwash them into believing they are the better lovers. IR porn is so absurd to a sexually experienced adult by comparison— a scenario where all black men have ridiculously large penises that, in reality, women actually consider unattractive because they're so mutated & disproportionate to the rest of their bodies. Where the white girls must always say throughout the scene that the black penis is superior (despite closer inspection revealing how uncomfortable these girls actually are in the scene with vaginal dryness and their faces grimacing in pain). Where the black men are all thugs basically raping these women with the women allegedly enjoying it. Where they force their inferior White boyfriends/husbands to watch them get pummeled by black men— all the while the White girl is ridiculing & humiliating their White men for not having a gigantic penis, and for being foolish enough to believe he could ever sexually satisfy a woman. The scenario is so preposterous to the experienced adults, but to the impressionable young teen out there it is downright unhealthy and misleading. Yet it seems to be increasing in prominence in pornography, which is very troubling in my opinion since it now appears to actually be influencing young people & virgins. IR is degrading to all parties involved— the black men are rapist thugs; the white girls shallow, cruel sluts; the white men naive, inferior lovers.

[nalaa]

I agree with almost everything

". Do you see porn ever going out of style?" well no, but I think it's a little misleading. It might not go out of style, but the issue is not porn itself it's that it's so easily acessible. It used to be, if you wanted to buy ponr you had to go to a magazine store. Pick up a magazine, go to the counter, watch cashier silently judge you and possibly ask you for id. Then pay for it. These days you have to do none of that and it def can regulated to be less accessible, hence changing the appitetie people have for it

[sedrftvgyhujik]

Why are so many girls against porn as a whole? It's the visual and auditory aspect you don't get when your single. Sure its not perfect and a lot of it is rough but it's a lot better than your future partner being entirely clue less and trying to stick in your ear or something or later realising there gay and a lot of it is targeted at men because women are watching so much less.

[nalaa]

@sedrftvgyhujik It's that porn defines what people see as normal. What is seen as the normal kind of sex and it's not normality that appeal to women. If you look at standard all vanilla porn it will usually go as follows. She goes down on him, maybe he goes down on her but not necessarily, He plays with her chest and then they have in various positions. And there's very little in between. And that is what men do at home, because that's all they know, that's how they think sex works. But it's not and that kind of mechanic routine not that pleasurable to many women. I mean I'm sure it's alright but not that great, not really satisfying. I'm not sure how to put in words really so let me use someone elses words

[nalaa]

"Many women are reporting, complaining actually, that men raised on watching porn have lost sexual skills with women," Wolf says. "They don't do that touch, they don't take their time, they don't do the things that arouse the autonomic nervous system in women."" So that's one aspect of it. The other is that it makes unnatural acts the norm. Basically everything that isn't vaginal sex is not "natural", it doesn't serve reproduction. A more old fashioned term is deviant. Porn makes acts that inherently deviant the norm and a lot of them are also not necessarily pleasurable to most women, yet we are expect to do them. If a girl doesn't give oral I'm sure most would break up with her. And a lot even if she doesn't do deep throat or anal. Do you realize how insane that is? Men will break up with a woman because she isn't enjoying chocking on your dick.

[sedrftvgyhujik]

Maybe they could go down on girls for longer in porn or make some of it more realistic? If there not paying you enough attention guide them! If there anything like me they want to please you a lot! I don't know what its like giving a bj but at least giving each other oral or fingering and hand jobs help avoid unwanted pregnancy's and condoms are still only 98% effective because of the risk they may slip of! Also Iv heard a number of older women 50s on hear say they love giving oral so it's not just the porn generation. Though on the positive for you some guys can't get off from oral so wouldn't want it and i think guys know most girls don't like to deep throat and that they need to give back.

[nalaa]

@sedrftvgyhujik Ya come on the pregnancy thing is an excuse And I'm not saying some don't like giving oral or doign anal or whatever, I'm saying porn made it expected of all women, even those that don't enjoy it. I understand that you have to talk to your partner. But you know my rowing coach always he prefers a total beginner over someone who think they know what they're doing, because the beginner has never made a bad stroke in their life, they're easier to teach, no bad habits to correct. It's the same here. A lot of guys are not willing change what they massively, it's what they're used and comfortable with "Maybe they could go down on girls for longer in porn or make some of it more realistic?" Not, not at all what I'm trying to get at. Just pure period of time he goes down on her in porn is not the issue. it's the way they have sex altogether

[sedrftvgyhujik]

Pregnancy is still a risk your reducing with oral and it's better than "swallowing makes you look younger why? because it contains stem cells?" Also true obviously :p But what would you rather guys idea of sex be like purely penetration and foreplay? What about going down on you I bet most girls wouldn't exactly be happy if I didn't want to go down on them!

[nalaa]

@sedrftvgyhujik I think that most women enjoy receiving oral but they wouldn't expect it from their partners, the same way men do. But yes, women totally are also influenced by porn, which portrays this the standard But what would you rather guys idea of sex be like purely penetration and foreplay? Well it'd be better than what we have right now. I think you're phrasing is underlining the attitude that is the problem. Purley penetration and foreplay. Well first of well penetration shouldn't be the way it's seen in porn. Just in and out for a few min. And neither is foreplay, if there even is foreplay in most porn it's normally the guys kissing her breasts and not much else. And I'm that's nice and all but inadequate on it's own

[sedrftvgyhujik]

I know penetration isn't just in and out for a few min though for some it only lasts a few min but we angle we go slow as well as fast shallow as well as deep, we grind and hold you squese each others butts. Sure where not all experts but most of us listen and try to learn what you like. But there is still a lot more a couple can do in the bedroom oral , hand jobs and fingering , blind folds , ice play , we can also use our hands during penetration. We don't expect BJs but it adds variety and sensuality and oral and hand jobs/fingering can be easyer when one or both of you are worn out. Also guys wanted BJs well before internet porn so I don't think porn is to blame!

[SquirttBlossom]

I think its like everything else we indulge in. Im moderation it is good. to much can be bad. Desensitization will cause you to look for more hard core stuff.. that i think is proven. SO self control is huge. It can be irritating when with a partner who has a obsessive tendency to porn. They expect this odd way of sexual contact. that is ridiculous mind you. then you are just annoyed.
Subs and Doms, i think are born not created. Our personalities are there from the time we are born to the time we die. Its just if you decide to bring that personality to the bed room or not would be the issue. And not that big of one. Being able to be who you are and fulfill a fantasy should be enjoyed.
But yes. to much porn causes problems with E. D. and lack of sex drive and can even cause people to not find others sexually attractive any longer. And would rather masturbate then have sex.

[mouthofswords]

You summed it up perfectly. Thanks for your thoughts!

[diegoD]

what is E D?

[Sara413]

I have no issue with a bit of softcover porn here and there to help a person out while they're masturbating. But I do have a huge issue with violent porn like what you described, and it seems there is so much out there that people are always chasing something more and more intense and there is no fucking way that doesn't influence their lives and that scares me.

[mouthofswords]

Exactly, that is the thing that most people who enjoy porn don't understand - you can't enjoy the same type of thing over and over again, especially if there is no sense of taste, smell or feeling - why would anyone want to rob them selves of those important keys of pleasure? Those are the very elements that make sex in general logically appealing. Looking at the same pictures or videos forces you to up the anti and shock your reward system into being "turned on" again because the old stuff just doesn't cut it. You're forced into looking for something else to get off on. Good points!

[2tall2handle]

I can't stand the hardcore violent porn. The chocking, hard spanking, gagging, etc, is a huge turn off for me, and I feel is demeaning to the stars that are forced to do it for money, and women in general.

[YourFutureEx]

Can't deny.

[HorrorFan]

What a pile.

First off, most of the big breasted females in video games come from Japanese games. They certainly do not care about your western sensibilities. Beyond that, you have things like Lara Croft's coding error in the 90's to a pretty fit, athletic body of today's versions. Most women have pretty normal bodies in any games I've played or you have the ability to adjust their dimensions.

The vast majority of the porn being produced is still just two people fucking like normal. Sure, there are more extreme sub genres and whatnot, but they are dwarfed by the normal stuff. Not all of us want to watch weird stuff even if we've been watching porn for 20 years.

What the media throws at us has very little to do with actual reality. You seem to be very confused. Porn is fantasy. Everyone capable of rational thought fully understands this.

I highly doubt the porn industry brings in as much as you think it does in this day and age. Do you even know people that actually spend money on porn? I would have to assume the vast majority of porn consumers pirate their porn on torrents and tube sites for free.

Again, porn is a FANTASY. Porn is not telling men that women are easy. That is asinine. If anything, most men full well know that women aren't that easy and thus, they stick to their porn. Porn has no expectations. You don't have to be good looking or have a high paying job to watch porn.

A 14 year old knowing what a gangbang orgy is has NOTHING to do with porn and has everything to do with poor parenting combined with easy access to the internet. They can look up people getting murdered, too. It's almost as if having a massive, ever-increasing database of videos, articles and pictures would inevitably lead to people being able to see things they probably shouldn't.

The vast majority of men would prefer the real deal to porn. Some guys just don't have what it takes to attract women. Men are going to masturbate regardless of the existence of porn as a visual aid. Removing porn accomplishes nothing. Men have sexual desires and needs and not all men are going to be capable of getting women, so substitutions are needed.

This is the reality we live in now. The internet in general while doing a million positive things for society, still has the nasty side effect of causing us all to lose some of our social skills and with each generation living more and more "online" we all forget how to interact with people, so porn will always remain a functional business.

[HorrorFan]

This is like saying vibrators should be banned because men can't live up to the expectations of just how well those toys can stimulate a clit. Who cares. People want to cum. Let them do so however they want.

[BubbleBoy69]

It's actually been shown that this

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[mouthofswords]

@BubbleBoy69 that is hilarious that you point this out. They market that thing as a "personal massager" and 45-50+ Models on the shopping network demonstrate it's usage on their necks, backs and pretty much everywhere with the exception of the obvious places lol! Too funny

[BubbleBoy69]

You'll enjoy this sketch from adult swim then.

https://youtu.be/FjZRWNg8k_M

[mouthofswords]

@BubbleBoy69 Too funny man haha! Thanks

[Phenix457]

You made a couple good points! Porn IS in fact a multi-billion dollar industry though. It actually is worth more than all major sports professional sports in the United States combined. Time is money, like how do tv-shows make money? Advertisements. Advertisements are a massive leg in funding the porn industry.

[HorrorFan]

@Phenix457 I'm not really arguing it isn't. But I've heard countless statements about how porn is dying because of piracy and I don't actually know anyone in real life or online friends or whatever that spend even a dime on porn. I mean I never have. Sure, TV shows make money through advertisements, but it's also a widely accepted form of entertainment without any social stigmas attached. Porn is not like that. Obviously it's consumed in large quantities because most men and some women enjoy looking at attractive people having sex when they want to masturbate, but people by and large do not want to be attached in any way publicly to the purchase or usage of porn. Most cable channels won't even swear much for fear of losing advertising money. I have to imagine whatever ad money porn gets just isn't in the same ballpark.

[madhatters4]

i agree that porn creates issues in people's sexual capability, views on relationships and views on what is normal in sex. for many porn skews what people assume are the norms and that can certainly create problems

however i don't blame the industry. in a country and world dominated by capitalism it only makes sense that they mass produce whatever sells the most. sure it would be great if they'd take steps to help address issues and they have to an extent; however, other issues require intervention from local, state and federal government and of course individuals can be responsible and informed consumers

the cigarette industry didn't choose to put warning labels on their products
the alcohol industry didn't choose the age restrictions on alcohol purchasing
the illicit drug industry doesn't decide that they won't sell certain products to certain people

... most of us hate the idea of government regulation but if we really have issues with porn it is up to government and the consumers who vote into office the government officials to step up and address things that need to be addressed

[Phenix457]

Good point about capitalism and taking blame away from the industry. Either way, government should start looking at regulations and restrictions on porn.

[madhatters4]

@Phenix457 i would not be opposed to more regulation and restrictions enforced by the government in the porn industry. i think the amount of harm it can create to the general public and those involved in the industry (as it often preys on those who are insecure or from low socioeconomic situations) could be viewed as a public safety/health issue

[Phenix457]

I've never heard of that, but viewing it as a public health issue gives the government legal ground to act. Well, on top of all of the cases of "distributing pornographic material to minors" because they don't do a good enough job at making sure under 18's can't get in because that's a lot of their business.

[erandal]

I think porn has both good and bad sides. I love to watch a nice bit of girl on girl occasionally when I masturbate if my SO is away for work but that is the thing, it is occasional and usually only once a week at most.

I can see how people can get addicted to it and then after a while they become desensitised to it so they need something a bit more hardcore to get turned on and so begins the downward spiral. They start off watching a girl masturbate but a few months later can only get satisfied seeing some granny get butt fucked with a foot long rubber dildo or some other over the top sexual act.

By the end of that spiral they could find themselves in bed with the most amazing member of the opposite sex but because they have become so addicted to porn and only get turned on by some seriously kinky weird stuff they are completely unable to perform in a normal situation.

Does that make sense?

[mouthofswords]

Thanks for the granny visual. I really needed that lol But serious, that is exactly it, it's the escalation part that gets people in a pattern of looking for something more intense because the normal shit they do doesn't do anything for them. Good points!

[somebodysaycheese]

Thier have been a lot of people in fraternities or on teames who have gang raped members because they saw in in porn specifically gay porn.
I saw a few studiea that say more younger men are getting erectile dysfunction and shooting blanks , they also have much lower testosterone than men who consume very little or no porn and they say its because of porn. I dont remember the name of the study but yea. it also rewires the brain as well.
Its a huge problem among males.

[mouthofswords]

You're totally right. Porn caters to a person's reward system. The mind craves attention and affection and if people can't find it with another person then they turn to themselves and porn. By cheating the reward system, it becomes lazy and you (as you mentioned) become lazy to want the real thing because you know you can get off by yourself. This also creates neural pathways or routes and short cuts in the brain to becoming accustomed to these "quick fixes". Life is stressful - school, jobs, relationships and friends and everything between complicate life that much more. So it's easy for one to want an easy way out of stress and unfortunately, porn is the answer for many - they just don't realize the side effects. Great points! Thanks

[furqan112]

Porn makes women a sex object for guys...

[bvictor]

I read this and can't help but wonder are you not getting laid enough? Seriously though, while I agree over indulging in porn or anything for that matter is unhealthy. I don't think the porn industry is damaging. Some of that shit is strange and bizarre but there are some fantasies that regular couple role play in the bed room. How is that any different from the plummer or pizza man role play. It's an innocent fantasy. But yes in some cases with incest and rape porn they can take it to far. But if people indulge in that then my question is what is wrong with those people who are watching it? I can't say that porn turns people into rapist but rather has given an outlet for sickos to rub one out to their fantasy.

[mouthofswords]

Role playing is absolutely fine dude. But what happens when you get tired of toggling through 4 or 5 different roles that both you and your girl aren't into anymore? Do you search for something else that stimulates both you and her? You would have to, correct? When you've sampled everything and none of that interests you anymore, what do you do then? This is desensitization. It forces you into something other than what you're used to being stimulated by. Realistically, having a chick dress up every other night as a nun or a maid would be boring for most people - which is why a lot are doing shit that is on the extreme level: BDSM, rape play, anal, fisting, orgies, gangbangs - because 'vanilla' sex is boring to them. Thank porn for that. PS I'm in my second round of college man, at a big school with lots of women lol no need to worry about me ;) cheers

[bvictor]

Naw some of that existed long before porn. Like I said porn is nothing more than an outlet to fulfill fantasies inside your head that you wouldn't otherwise be able to in the real world. At most the only thing I can blame porn for is the social dating problem we have in today's society. Because sex is readily available on the internet it doesn't make sense for some guys to go out there and find real women. So it creates these socially awkward people today. But as far as the sex getting boring in the bedroom you can't blame that on porn. That is on the person themselves.

[10dsw]

Nope not at all.

As a matter of fact I would argue that pornography has made certain traditions more acceptable, such as BDSM which is now enjoyed by many couples around the world. Even foot fetishism... a long time ago such a fetish was considered an abomination. Nowadays foot fetishists can enjoy healthy relationships with non-fetishists possibly due to acceptance for alternative sex.

Online dating is what's ruining people... if you want my opinion. Guys are considered disposable to girls who use online dating apps. And now you have a field of bitter males who have stopped caring about the feelings of girls, etc. Then girls push back losing respect for guys and the cycle continues...

[Loadedgamer]

I beat my meat everyday, and to be honest porn isn't harming someone!

You: "Porn stop harming people"

Porn: * fap fap fap!

See porn isn't harming people!

People are harming themselves!

[nirala_na]

You're single - let's talk after a year of the same routine after you finally have a girlfriend

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na what does being single have to deal with porn being harmful to people! I'm single because I want to focus on my priorities and goals! Nothing to do with porn!

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na In all honesty, when he says "porn is on tv, ads, and movies" I laughed because a person that believes in the illuminati said this on YouTube! And he even said Porn is evil! Porn is simply just their to showcase sexual performances by these adult actors! Not their fault if a nitwit buys the DVDs! Unlike them I look up free porn!

[nirala_na]

Have you ever heard of something called erectile dysfunction? If not, google "porn induced erectile dysfunction". This is what I meant that you'll understand once you have a girlfriend when whatever she does to you, you won't get hard. Or it will die in the middle of the intercourse as your brain will be rewired to be stimulated only by physical images on the computer/tv screen, not the real deal with a real person. Porn is not to showcase sexual performances of the wh*res, it's there to fap for people watching it and those "actors/actresses" (haha! too good a word for them..) are there to make money. Do you know where they should be "showcasing sexual performances"? In their bedroom, with their loved one! Sex and nudity should be something special for one person only, not the entire world. Why? Because it's the most you can get intimate physically with your beloved one. Having sex with many people or showcasing the body for thousands just spoils it

[nirala_na]

I do agree that porn is on TV, adverts and practically everywhere. Definition of porn is: "sexually explicit videos, photographs, writings, or the like, produced to elicit sexual arousal (often used attributively)", so surely a half naked sl*t in the advert is not there to make you laugh, but to stimulate you. Just think about it for a second.

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na what nope you're just interpreting your own definintion of pornography! Plus you don't get errectile disfunction by watching porn all the time? You get it from overdosing on viagra or penis pills! Masterbation is actually healthy! People who say it's not? Are religious fucks!

[nirala_na]

Dictionary does not lie. That definition is definitely not ambiguous, so no, it's not my own interpretation. You're talking to a person who watched and felt it in my own partner, so don't talk garbage to me. Porn is addictive, leads to erectile dysfunction in some (not everyone, but majority). Your opinion is based on what? My opinion is based on experience and a year of research on medical studies and forums. If you don't even bother to google "porn induced erectile dysfunction", you're just another ignorant person who thinks he's the wisest, but he's not - dude, knowledge is power - hope you'll realise it one day. Enjoy being stuck in your little world, being unaware of 3/4 of shit going around. Masturbation might be healthy sometimes but not using porn. SINCE WHEN masturbation equals watching porn?

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na it's a myth, and Pornography stands for Material of sexual activity! That does not necessarily mean if you see a model half naked that's considered to be porn! It means fully naked!

[nirala_na]

You should've added: "In my opinion pornography stands for..". Start using google dude. It does not hurt.

[nirala_na]

Your'e cutting information in half. Porn is meant to be turning people on. Some people get aroused by seeing half naked body. It's provocative and does get people aroused - hence it's classed as porn.

[nirala_na]

Haha what is a myth? My own experience, medical researches or the dictionary? I bet you believe in unicorns as well.

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na I'm a fucking atheist That only see realistic viewpoints! You have a different viewpoint that's relaistic, but subjective! Therefore it is true some men get turned on by all these model half naked ads, but it doesn't mean it's ruining their life! Ads do that for a subliminal messaging stunt, because it's an easy way to make money! What are your experiences with porn? Were you a pornstar or just a model? What do you mean by experiences that you know the whole business of porn!

[nirala_na]

Why are you bringing religion into that? When did I ever mention something religion-related? Your point is invalid. Yes, I do agree with the adverts stuff now. I have a fiancee who experienced everything I said above hence you said that my opinion is subjective. Cool, let's make what I said objective: so what about another thousands or millions of men who experienced the same? It's not uncommon, trust me. As I said, using Google does not hurt. I think you're too scared to look up what can happen to you if you use porn excessively.

[nirala_na]

And no, I'm never going to be a pornstar because I don't want to be - I got self-respect and keep myself to my partner only - it makes it so much rewarding. I'm earning money with my brain, not my body. Everybody can fuck, not everyone can do a job that requires some skills and knowledge.

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na i don't use google I use the fucking dictionary!

[nirala_na]

Unless you use a medical dictionary, then you'll miss the whole point I was making about erectile dysfunction induced by porn! by the way, uncle Google is good. Start using it!

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na you're just making declarative statements without adding any statistics! Objective means factual!

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na which sites do you go on google to look up this information

[mouthofswords]

@nirala_na lol ma girl is making me proud over here. (high five)

[Loadedgamer]

Your girl is just saying declarative statements, but the only fact she used was from a website that said you can errectile dysfunction by simply masterbating too much or not masterbating at all! Porn won't cause errectile dysfunction It's their to make money off of stupid fuckwits! Then she said a million guys have experience porn and they find it common that it ruins their lives! That is just a declarative statement, and most of the people that think porn ruins their lives are religious dimwits! She's being biased against porn, but she's not saying that the people are harming themselves not the porn itself!

[mouthofswords]

I don't mean to be rude man but it sounds like you don't do a hell of a lot of reading. Sorry just my opinion, don't hate. Listen to her when she suggested google. Education is key bro. cheers

[nirala_na]

Damn right, @mouthofswords, thank you! Good to know there're intelligent guys with brain out there. *high five* @Loadedgamer - Yourbrainonporn. com, medicaldaily. com, psychology. com and I also encourage to check out nofap. com/forum - that's just a small amount of websites that I've looked at that have sufficient information for an ignorant lad like you, not being able to distinguish between MATURBATION and PORN - I mean, really? Masturbation might be healthy every so often, but watching porn AND masturbating very often isn't. How dare you to say I'm basing my opinion on some websites only? HELLO, I HAVE THE CLOSEST PERSON TO ME who suffered all those symptoms caused by using porn, before you reply to me next time, read thoroughly all my messages. I'm biased? By what, medical researches (once again, knowledge is power), millions of men and my experience with my partner? You've got a homework to do, man or disappoint your future partner when she can get you up or you cum too early

[nirala_na]

*psychologytoday. com

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na I bet if you put this on YouTube, and even try to be biased towards my opinion! Which you weren't even reasonable with! You would get tons of hate views, and most of those sites just add subjective feelings and make them seem like valid statements Let me guess you were in those Teens Against porn sites when you were done!

[nirala_na]

You're all wrong again - nothing new there. Teens against porn - what's that? First time I've heard of it. Oh, just Googled it - it's a Youtube channel - so no, I've never been "in it". Actually, when I was a teen (before I met my partner), I used to be watching tons of porn. Why? Because I wasn't aware how it affects me. I didn't know - I was lacking research and any interest in looking it up. The only person who is unreasonable now is you - you're just in denial. If youtube and the dictionary is the only source for your knowledge, you are really limited and not well educated. You're lacking a lot of scientific, psychological and biological knowledge - your choice if you choose to catch up with it or you just "let it be" and then worry once something bad happens to you. Haha, you call medical research a "subjective feeling"? No offence, but do you know even what "subjective" means? I get the impression you don't.

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na it means personal feelings or opinions! This means you have personal feelings over porn? No facts at all! The only reasearch you did was looking up declarative statements that just state A millions of people should watch out fo porn because it can infect you in bad way? If that's what you consider a fact lol? Then you need to do more reasearch?

[nirala_na]

Example: "In a 2013 survey from adult site PornHub, millions of men were watching porn per hour. And according to The Kinsey Institute, 9 percent of surveyed men were unable to stop. Excessive pornography is associated with lower self-esteem, poorer relationship quality, and lower sexual satisfaction. The American Psychological Association even cited a study from Brigham Young University and the University of Missouri that found men's use of porn was associated with lower sexual quality for both men and their partners." And it's only Pornhub stats from 3 years ago. Bet it's increased now! I can find medical researches where they directly mention ED if you can't Google it yourself!

[nirala_na]

www. google. com type in "porn induced erectile dysfunction" that's a no-brainer, right?

[nirala_na]

https:// yourbrainonporn. com/ cambridge-university-brain-scans-find-porn-addiction (delete the spaces) You really want to argue with Cambridge university research among many other ones? Really? Are you more educated than them? More capable of doing your own research on thousands of people? You're just another guy brain-washed by mainstream media and lack of education.

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na okay I am addicted porn, but I still have friends that are girls I hangout with! We talk about movies, video games, and stuff! However you're simply saying that I lack education! just because I disagree with you from the first start! Because you said I'm single and I don't know anything yet! However porn doesn't ruin people, it's the people themselves! You look like the type that goes to social gathering, but instead of having a conversation you nitpick all the negative things that they say!

[nirala_na]

No, the only reason I said you're not educated is because you don't believe proper, science researches, you deny to look for them in the first place, hence your standpoint is subjective only. I don't mean to offend you in any way, but I can't stand ignorant people trying to prove their way which is based purely on their thoughts, behaviours and nothing or nobody from outside their environment. Sure, you can have your opinion all you want, but you can't argue with facts = science. Just acknowledge the fact that porn harms some people. That's the whole point. You never know if you're going to be that person or not, but with porn addiction you have higher chance.

[nirala_na]

Me nitpicking at social gatherings? Wrong again! I'm actually described as the most positive person in most places I go to. And I'm an honest person with a bright, cheerful outlook. There are only a few subjects I'm serious about and one of them is porn's effects on men nowadays.

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na lol that is not a seriou subject! Right now their has been the Food to country scam! Where African soldiers stole food from the children about to recieve rice? The Susan G Komen scam where she kept most of the compensation by paying herself more money, instead of using it to pay for cancer treatment? Porn is just a personal subject nothing serious in the matter?

[nirala_na]

Why mentioning something not related to this take? Comments are to express your opinions and exchange knowledge about a subject the take is about. If ruining your future sexual life and letting down your partner to be is not a serious subject for you, then just wait a few years and perhaps then you'll come to your senses thinking: "I remember that long conversation on GaG with that girl.. I'm getting a softie when trying to have sex with my girlfriend because of my porn usage.." and so on. Then because she can't please you, and you'll go back to porn, like in a vicious circle. Until then, do as you please but don't spread the bullshit that "porn doesn't harm" because it's purely based on your rewired brain that is craving to see nude wh*res and getting there with your own hand. Science says otherwise. I suppose it's true that unless you experience something, you won't fully understand it!

[Loadedgamer]

@nirala_na umm yeah you play that heroism act pretty good! Sometimes being a hero and trying to save people in your own subjective world will not get you anywhere?

[nirala_na]

Uh oh, I can see lack of arguments from your side! Sometimes being a hero and trying to save people in my objective, science and experience-based world will not get me anywhere because people are too ignorant, brainwashed and not ready to face the truth. Well, truthfully, it does get me somewhere - I'm proud of myself for being who I am and fighting for what I stand for.

[Phenix457]

@Loadedgamer do you have any form of education or logic at all?

[diegoD]

@nirala_na wholly fuck the exchange between you 2 is long as hell. ya I wish certain porn acts and age was more restricted to 21 years old, porn perverts you. but at the same time those things are exciting and push the limit, so its very controversial. I did not know about hte erectile disfunction part.

[Fathoms77]

I would like to add just one small thing from the video game perspective:

Having covered that industry for a good 15 years and being a gamer myself, the stereotypical "brainless big boobs" female character is essentially dead. If it isn't dead, it's dying. Lara Croft's makeover was dramatic, for example, and just about every major female character I've seen in the last few years has been plenty realistic. They're fit and healthy, of course (couldn't be doing what they're doing if they weren't) but they're still correctly proportioned.

Evie in Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Madison in Heavy Rain, Ciri in The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, Chloe in Life is Strange, etc, etc, etc. Look them up. Most Western developers are keen on making very realistic and identifiable female characters in their games these days, even if some of the Japanese devs are still stuck on the stereotypes (Bayonetta, Dead or Alive, etc). They're even starting to catch up to the times, however.

Just wanted to make this clarification because the strides that medium has taken in the realm of female portrayal in the past 6 or 7 years shouldn't be ignored.

[mouthofswords]

You are right. There are characters in games that are well crafted, both in personality and physicality like Lightning Faron of FF13 and the new Lara Croft polymodel you mentioned. It's clear that developer's are taking note, but there is still a rather unhealthy image portrayal, especially with female characters/AI within extremely popular video games i. e Blizzard's Overwatch (their overly sexual suggestiveness in Starcraft and Warcraft are notable also), or Juliet from Lollipop Chainsaw to rep the sexy cheerleader trope. I used video games to make the point that while porn is on the rise, it's influence (even from the 90's to now) has touched generally all forms of media in that it suggests a woman should look, sound and move suggestively in a certain way. Another example, outside of the indie market, big comic book companies are blatantly saying all women are big breasted, long legged amazons with sexual appetites that put even real men to shame. Great point on video games though!

[Fathoms77]

Yes, but we're also forgetting that MEN have been portrayed with the similar overtly sexual and unrealistic stereotype since the beginning of gaming. It's interesting that we gloss over the top-heavy women in games when every single video game hero for about 20 years was always this impossibly muscular, lantern-jawed, Type-A personality womanizer. ;)

[mouthofswords]

Yep, I guess large shoulders and pectorals can sell video games too, good point!

[I_am_me2]

I can't say that porn ruins people... it's the greed and lust that ruins people. I think porn is pretty horrible, but I came out all right. I started watching BDSM and obscure fetish porn when I was 14. For me, it was a way to cope with being raped. I would imagine that I was that girl, and that it was alright. Somehow it was a good thing. It never solved my problems, and only added more, but I can't say that it ruined me. I turned out straight (which is a shock to myself), and I'm in a great relationship. I will say that it was VERY, VERY hard to quit. I still relapse every now and then.

[mouthofswords]

Sorry to hear about your past trauma, no one should go through that kind or any other kind of abuse. It sounds like you got the right kind of people in your corner. Good job and thanks for your input!

[Phenix457]

Keep up the good fight man!

[MikenotIke2]

I think there's a healthy amount of porn someone can watch and an unhealthy amount. Personally I think porn only ruins those who don't know how to handle all of the subtle hints that come with porn, like huge tits, big cock, lasting for like 5 hours, etc. All of my friends and girlfriends who watch porn regularly say they enjoy it and don't think it's harmful for them.

[Sara413]

Amount and type in think both matter. I have no issue with a guy watching softcover porn now and again as a visual aid when masturbating. But if he's staying up late instead of coming to bed with me in order to watch some barely legal Asian crying and choking on a dick while being roughly penetrated by another man, I have a big fucking problem with that.

[Phenix457]

I actually agree entirely with you, but it's very easily abusable system especially because many people lack self-control and/or are introduced into porn young enough where they can't determine what a "healthy" amount of porn is.

[Nicolás25]

Really good my take could you check out my my take on a similar topic www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30997-how-to-quit-sex-porn-addiction

[redridinggirlTR]

the only problem with the porn nowadays is it is easily reachable... and all types of it.
when we were growing up, rape, deep throat, pissing, scat, bdsm type of movies were unreachable mostly, so youngsters watched porn that are mostly vanilla and normal and normalized that sex.
but the youngsters of today (even some 13 year older boys and girls) can reach any porn site they want through internet... and most of those sites have extreme sex actions. they are not a normal part of a normal sex. but youngsters can watch it and normalize them. this might be a big problem for boys and girls who expect that it is normal sex... boys can ask for it... and girls can feel obliged to do it for it is all around the internet so it is normal right?
that is kinda off consent though it seems it is.
i would like those extreme sex styles and perform them knowing they are not normal vanilla sex but with internet and porn industry now, the youngsters can not make that decision.

[Sabretooth]

it wasn't unforeseen.

[redridinggirlTR]

@Sabretooth what do u mean

[Sara413]

This really ties in well with the question I posted the other day about if it's even considered normal anymore to be "vanilla". Interesting discussions in there.

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2087961-is-it-weird-to-not-be-into-any-weird-sexual-shit

[Sabretooth]

Timothy 3:1-13 brings out thins would only continue to get worse.

[diegoD]

you might be right, I think and you might think the wilder, and more extreme side of porn should be seen only by people over 21. and maybe even practiced but like once in a while, not often

[JoyGirl]

Yes, it is ruining people!

[NewEnglandDude]

I love porn. As a single college guy who doesn't have much time or will to date, it allows me to fantasize about having sex and it gets me off (obviously). There's so many things you can look up for what you're into. There's people who are addicted to it, but I do it as a weekly thing that relaxes me and satisfies my need. No girlfriend, no problem lol

[RedVulcan]

Welp. You could be right and you could be wrong.

Thing is, I can see when the actors are acting and that's a pretty huge turnoff. I know the difference between an image or sex doll and a woman. Sadly at my age I know plenty of guys who don't and whose shallow and immature minds may very well be rotting from overexposure.

I guess the biggest issue I have with this mytake is how the people that need to see it probably won't ever see it.

[doctorwho1987]

yes porn ruins lifes. my ex would watch it and want me to to do what he watched I say no he push me to do nasty things. porn makes me sick

[Sara413]

That's awful. Glad to see he's an EX now. Good for you for leaving!!

[Browneye57]

Not bad. Very intuitive. Bravo! [clap]

[Unit1]

Yawn. Porn isn't for the weak. It only ruins people, who are letting themselves be ruined.
We also have some so called fetishes.
Long as it's in moderation, everything is OK.

[TheButterfly]

I agree for the most part. I never watch porn as.. horrible as you described, but it is pretty detrimental for someone so young to watch it. I, myself, have a pee fetish, but I only watch videos of people enjoying sexual activites. I dont see anything wrong with porn, even rough porn, if everyone is visably enjoying it. It makes me sick when I run across one where the girl is crying or very upset. That's not sex, it's torture.

[mouthofswords]

Yeah the torture shit is disturbing. Any guy who gets hard seeing a girl crying and being slapped around (even if it is just role playing) has issues. The peeing stuff I don't get no offense - you do what makes you wet and happy baby. But seriously, I gag when my girl has a strong beer piss, that shit stays in the bathroom for like an hour lol

[TheButterfly]

Just a fetish, people who dont have it I dont expect for them to find it to be a turn on

[Phenix457]

"If everyone is visably enjoying it". But do you really think that the girls that "visably enjoy" being gangbanged by 8 guys really, genuinely enjoy that? There are exceptions, but the porn industry is one of the biggest consumers of illicit drugs just to cope with what they have to do. Often times, porn stars have been victims of childhood abuse and sometimes need psychological help, you know? Do you need a personal testimony? https://w ww. dailystormer. com/former-pornstar-writes-open-letter-to-porn-viewers/ The first myth she addresses to the reader is that the girls enjoy making porn videos (I'm sure some do, but in her 4 years and 20 films she didn't meet one). You can be dying on the inside while "visably enjoying" it, they're actors that's what they're paid to do.

[TheButterfly]

@Phenix457 whoaaa I was just stating my opinion. I'm sure there are some that do enjoy, I was just saying that those who watch porn where the girl is visably in distress and upset, that it is sick

[singlebee]

No! It didn't run me... It taught me actually... Lol

[singlebee]

*Ruin And by the way slapping, bondage, pissing, incest all these are categories I don't watch Lol... So it didn't give me any unrealistic expectations except for maybe anal...

[YellowCactus]

Damn, this take is long as a bible. Fu-ck reading it...

[COCOCHANEL]

i do think the violent, hardcore stuff is affecting people's standards.

then again i started watching hardcore bdsm porn at 13 and i turned out ok. i have absolutely no interest in being subjected to what the doms dish out probably because i was born to be a dom.

[DiegoO]

WTF... The same thing I said above.

[COCOCHANEL]

what?

[DiegoO]

Nothing : D

[John_Doesnt]

I couldn't stop thinking about porn while reading your take. Porn!!!

[mouthofswords]

Haha now you're just showing off! :P

[ayylamo]

Porn can only ruin you if you let it.

[Lance1965]

Porn ruins relationships but it affects younger people moreso than older ones. It is all about moderation but people become addicted to it.

[DiegoO]

The porn industry it self doesn't have no moral but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be regulated. Porn is porn but there are definitely genres of porn's that are way to sick for anyone with a healthy mental health.

[Nothanks700]

You really can't regulate it as long as it's consenting adults, freedom of speech and all. Even if it's sick, people have a right to do what they wish and broadcast it to other adults all they want

[DiegoO]

@Nothanks700 sadly freedom of speech is been mistaken with licentiousness.. Those incest videos should be illegal as like all of those videos that show the fantasy of minors having something with adults ( 18+ girls playing the role of underage), among others.

[DiegoO]

I forgot to mention that those porn videos I mentioned don't cause a behavior, they are like a fuel for the behavior of any one with sexual deviation or with antisocial tendency's, and those videos can deeply influence a minor and develop in a minor antisocial behavior & sexual deviation.

[Sara413]

@Nothanks700 I think rape videos should be banned. Even staged ones. I don't give a fuck what fetishes people are into and wanna watch, have at it, but every participant should be and appear enthusiastic about it.

[Phenix457]

@Nothanks700 there actually is a legal argument against the porn industry. In fact, people would be somewhat justified even to start lawsuits against it under certain cases.

[Nothanks700]

@Phenix457 yes, if someone is forced or otherwise pressured to do it, then there would be legal presedence. But consenting people can do what they wish. I don't like it either, but we can't pick and choose what is deemed worthy of freedom of speech or the right goes away.

[Phenix457]

@Nothanks700 uh why is prostitution illegal? Because the government can exercise legal restrictions on freedom of speech in special cases.

[ThatBritishLad]

People look at the past like it was full of innocence and junk. I don't see why, people were still just as obsessed with sticking their thingies in other people's thingies back then.

[Ladyslipper]

I've seen some VERY disturbing porn such as rape, skullf*cking, anal fisting.. I could usually always tell the girl was in pain and suffering but she did it for the money it's heartbreaking that men want to do this to this to girls

[mouthofswords]

Quite a few porn stars were molested or raped (numbers are high outside the porn world so it's no surprise many turn to porn careers) and still look like they like what they do. The only way someone could smile after having shit like that done to them is a paycheck. Great points!

[sedrftvgyhujik]

The things you mentioned are all definitely some of the darkest things on there! And there not the only ones and yes some people women as well as men watch thous things. It's not all that sort of thing though. I think most of us want to be teased witch you don't get with any of the things you mentioned it just seems sort of medical if your not teased! Not complexly denied but they want to be teased. You just have to filter for the kind you like! I often hear girls complaining about the girl not being give enough attention well theirs genres like Cunnilingus witch are all about girls being given oral you just have to know the search words filter past the things that make you uncomfortable , book mark the things you like and except that the world isn't a perfect place.

[diegoD]

what is skullf*king. its controversial.

[YellowCactus]

LMAO, what's skullfu. cking? I have never heard of this term...

[Ladyslipper]

@YellowCactus basically its when the guy fucks the shit out of the girls throat while she's gagging choking and suffocating

[YellowCactus]

@Ladyslipper WHAT ? That sounds gross as fu-ck and can harm the girl!!

[Ladyslipper]

@YellowCactus Yeah its pretty sad

[CHRIS11796]

It lowers a guy's self-esteem and keeps them from actually talking to women you become visually stimulated by a picture or video on a screen it definitely has a negative impact however if there are guy's out there who don't care about meeting women in real life then hell continue doing what makes you happy.

[Wulfila]

Yeah, pornography is screwing up society pretty badly. I got into it early on, and I can see how it messes with people.

For me personally, even though I (regretfully) look at pornography frequently, I have never been able to stomach the violent, group, urine / scat / vomit, or incest stuff. Just seeing the advertisements on adult sites makes me cringe (especially for the women involved), and I felt sick after the few times that I actually clicked on them.

Homemade video is usually what I watch, because while I still know in the back of my mind how it was uploaded (out of spite / revenge, the couple has exhibitionist tendencies, the husband / wife was a douche and submitted without telling), it's less fake than the "professional" content (if one could even call it that). I seem especially drawn to videos where the people talk to each other (as in actual talking, not reciting pre-written smutty dialogue).

Even though the homemade stuff is more genuine and real than actor pornography, I hate that I watch it, because it takes the place of a real woman in my life. I've found that when I'm actually interacting with a girl (even just as a friend), my desire for pornography disappears, because the connection is what I'm looking for more than anything. However, given my sparsely populated region and women's general lack of interest in me, pornography is pretty much all that I have to vent sexual frustration with. I don't want to, but I become irritable if I don't release at least a couple of times per week, and I've no sweetheart to turn to.

We've reached the point where many people don't actually even know what real sex even is, and our culture is suffering because of it. Porn has reached epidemic levels of addiction, and I'm ashamed to say that it's gotten ahold of me also.

[DaddyRollingStone]

I stopped watching porn and masturbating for a week and my sex drive was amazing.

[Nicolás25]

Of you want to keep your streak going check out my take www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30997-how-to-quit-sex-porn-addiction

[Decentguy]

porn is stupid and ruins everything.

[YourName123]

If you dont like it, change the channel

[lumberman9]

It's not ruining people

[Alex88F]

i've been away from porn for like a month now. i returned home and watched it, but i did nothing (IE cumming). as i found it out - you sense life differently. you interact differently, it flows differently. and you're less stressed and more confident

that's my experience

[mouthofswords]

Good job man, take your manhood back and don't be ashamed of having an iron erection just from seeing a fully clothed beautiful woman 30 feet away across the street lol! That is your body and brain returning to normal! I have to pretend I'm tying my shoe at least 6 or 7 times a day, especially at the mall or school :P

[Alex88F]

*brofist* stay hard and proud my friend, stay hard and proud

[emperor90]

Yes it is it is so fake

[Popo21]

I think it's ruining people big time

[Zzzzzz111]

You're totally right , i promise you will find many opposers

[Noxifer626]

You're rightfully pissed off at big corporations for the wrong reason.

[APRU5]

Personally porn its self is unattractive because the hardcire shit is discusting. the regular intercourse while it would agriavte me that any one is watching porn, would be better they watch that than some hardcore stuff you mentioned.

[plinkett]

Yes, it is ruining people, ruining marriages, ruining our future. It should be banned.

[furqan112]

Wow😱😱

[femininheart]

As i disscuted with my religious community , porn is harmfull to the soul.
Why? Because of the imagery shown there. It's harmfull. it staines the heart... the body needs thees kaid of ,, supplies'' but the soul captures images that's what harms the mind... the body

[Romeo70]

It raises the expectations of guys and sometimes girls especially when talking about the felines it's all about the guys girth and length along with stamina

[Damsel-in-distress]

I was raised in a moderately religious household. I always had a romanticized view of sex in my head. I thought it was a deeply passionate, vulnerable and intimate moment that married couples share together. It is the ultimate physical manifestation of love. So I tried not to view any pornographic material. But after I turned 18 I got really curious. I didn't know what a penis looked like, how it was inserted into a vagina, what different sex positions looked like ( cowgirl, doggy, missionary). I'm more of a visual learner lol so I wanted to see some demonstrations. I went to pornhub ( heard it was a safe site) and was bombarded with different genres. I was feeling a bit overwhelmed, took a deep breath and finally clicked on a video!!! There was nothing remotely romantic about it lol. The girl had enormous boobs and the guy had a huge erect penis. The girl bent over backward and the guy pulled down her pants, put his penis into her vagina and started thrusting his pelvis. I wasn't turned on by that at all. I was mortified. The loud moaning sounded fake and annoying. By that time my curiosity worn off. I don't regret watching it because I learned some moves. I might rewatch it before my wedding. night to prepare myself lol.

[sedrftvgyhujik]

Maybe try female friendly or sensual?

[Damsel-in-distress]

@sedrftvgyhujik I don't enjoy watching porn. I prefer reading erotic romance novels.

[sedrftvgyhujik]

You could try erotic audio books? I listen to erotic audio books as well as porn I much prefer them to reading erotic books as id rather actually hear a sensual voice than have to make one up.

[mikebailey55]

I completely agree with everything you said and I feel like sex is becoming such an important thing in our society that to be "cool" you need to have done it so you can talk about it. I still feel like though people should wait until they really feel that the person they are going to do it with is someone who is really special and not just a one night thing.

[Loadedgamer]

Your at a high school age, you don't even know what society is at all? Society doesn't teaches us that sex is cool? Society means a club or organization that teaches the influence among dangers of the community! You're simply saying that all people in society think sex is cool! When relgion is a club, and condemns you from thinking sex is cool! Plus if you wait before marriage, lol chances are you're going to cum fast! Because you need sexual experience, in order to know what you're doing is correct? However society doesn't teaches us that sex is cool! It's the people that you're influenced by such as freinds or family which is like 10% of society is saying that sex is cool!

[Loadedgamer]

Plus if 10% of society says "sex is cool"; that's just a personal opinion! And you need to be reasonable when they say that. Instead of sounding like that everyone in society such as people who are in: schools, churches, workplace, and home?

[Anonymous]

I love porn. The men I've been with get so turned on when they see how I'm "like them". I hear about ex girlfriends catching them masterbating and yell. Im not sure if it will ruin society no more than us girls have to compete with super models or Barbie. Both are usually not average woman size. Yet sought after, same as a large penis in porn.

[Anonymous]

I watched porn as an escape. Look up porn addiction. I'm a 19 year old male who doesn't get morning erections... random erections... my penis only works to porn. I'm not trying to promote anything i have no reason to lie. I wish someone had told me it's bad to watch excessively.

[Nicolás25]

Check my take out its about this
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a30997-how-to-quit-sex-porn-addiction

[Anonymous]

Porn is just a fantasy. There is nothing new in sex or porn because we as humans have thought and done all these things since day one. If porn was ban today, people will still be masturbating, giving blow jobs, having gangbangs, anal sex, etc... Everything starts in the mind, that is why its called a fantasy.

[Anonymous]

Porn is bad. It will affect you negatively in one way or another. People will argue that it's bad only if you get addicted to it. Well, good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

In a sense yes. I'm a guy... so I see how it is affecting women - all the women I have been with think or expect men to have 10 inch penises and they think that is normal.

[Sara413]

Calling bullshit on that... I don't know ANYTHING women who think a 10 inch dong is normal (or even desirable).

[Opinion Owner]

@Sara413 A lot of women i have talked to have unrealistic expectations. Again... not all, but a lot I have talked to. -They have told me that they are disapppinted by 10 minutes of sex (vaginal intercouse) and expect it to last 45 minutes to an hour -They have told me that a man who is below 8 inches is too small. Of course a man who is 5-6 is normal and that is average.

[Sara413]

Well that is all kinds of fucked up. Combination of inadequate sex ed plus easily accessible porn = unhealthy misconceptions all around..

[Anonymous]

"What's not unrealistic is the fact that a 14 year old knows what a gangbang creampie orgy is. And this should unsettle you. Imagine being that age and exposed to seeing a woman being brutally penetrated, crying, make-up running, face swollen from tears and slaps, body blotched with pink finger indentations from rough hands all over her, and hair stringy, slicked back and caked with spit, piss and semen... this is something that a young kid can readily access on the good ol' web, and ALL before they understand the concept of good amazing sex within the context of trust, respect, and the warmth of a healthy relationship. Not so sexy now is it?"

EWW PEOPLE WATCH THAT?

[Anonymous]

The vast majority of women due to uncontrollable hypergamy are chasing top 20% of males (80/20) rule. This leave 80% of men to fight over 20% of remaining women. The result of this is we have an imbalance on the men side for available mates with many men in 80% only getting attention from women when they are post wall (over 30) after they've failed locking down an alpha.

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However, men have sexual needs and are horny in their teens and 20's with their libido going down into their 30's and beyond where they start thinking more clearly and less with their dicks. Now, what is a young man suppose to do when he is not able to experience sex in their teen's and 20's because women don't want him and he is horny.

Well the answer is simple, he turns to porn to satisfy his sexual needs. He get to see and vicariously live out the sex he would have liked with a girl he loved but never got because he was deem NOT GOOD ENOUGH by women.

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Masturbating to porn is like a drug addiction and when you get accustom to jacking off to a certain type of female body for so many years it's kind of hard to not feel disappointing when you look at normal girls and see their bodies are very much under whelming and big contrast from female pornstars. Also many men over time need even more perverted sex acts to get off.

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In addition, men use porn to fight off feeling alone. Being considered NOT GOOD ENOUGH and looked at like trash for so many years by the opposite gender can cause one to feel like shit. Many men use porn as an escape from reality and release.

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The root cause here isn't porn but uncontrolled hypergamy on the woman's side and the discarding of men. Women are actual screwing themselves for the long haul because when these men they finally decide to give a chance, they are going to find a lot of them are 1) Suck at sex because they never were given a chance to practice to get good at sex 2) Find their partner does not want to have sex with them often because they don't look like pornstars their use to or because their GF/Wife are not willing to perform sex acts that the nasty pornstars do 3) erectile dysfunction.

[Phenix457]

You list a lot of the functions of porn, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not mentally healthy for the porn actors/actresses or the people that watch it. And don't blame women? XD I'm sure if 5 girls were lined up you'd pick the hottest one. Maybe guys should step up their game and compete instead of giving up. You know, in a dog eat dog world, people that don't compete die out

[Phenix457]

Also, I'm not sure if you're for or against porn (or if you used google translate for that matter) because you're very choppy and unclear with your statements. You talk about how porn distorts the view of real females and makes them seem underwhelming compared to the porn stars (which I assume is a bad thing) but then you talk about how men use porn to fight feeling alone (which is a good thing I guess?). It's just unclear if you're for/against porn but you seem very clearly against women (no surprise, really, that you're not their first pick).

[Afrochick]

YO THAT COMIC LOL

[Anonymous]

Your whole point on gaming is completely out of whack. Sure there are some female characters with big boobs, there are women in real life with big boobs. But for example, Jinx, from League of Legends is completely flat chested, pale white, and has red eyes. That is far from the stereotypical big breasted girls you seem to be proposing.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like life is ruining porn. If it makes someone happy why stop them? Sounds like the people in that persons life are the things that need to go and not the porn if they are only miserable around those people.

Sorry but I keep in my life what brings me happiness and kick to the curb what doesn't. Porn brings me happiness so it stays. People who try to make me stop are what bring me misery and so I kick those people to the curb.