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Rape is real, it happens. Women, men, anyone can be a victim. Have you been a victim? Have you sexually assaulted someone yourself?
Sorry for the novel. This is my first MyTake, I figured this was a good subject to write on after finding out someone was raped inside of my old school.
A girl was raped a week ago. A girl was raped 6 days ago. 3 days ago. Yesterday. Does anyone care?
A guy was raped a week ago. 6 days ago. 3 days ago. Yesterday. Does anyone care?
Setting the scene
The specific scenario in my mind, at the moment. It includes a school. The school I graduated from only a year ago. And a stairwell. The one in the back of the school, it's more narrow than the others, less frequented use. This scenario involves a girl and a guy, they're both 14. Both high school freshman. We don't know why. Maybe she flirted with him in class earlier, and that's why she was his target. Maybe he was high on drugs. Quite possibly both.
The last bell rings for classes. School lets out. Perhaps she stays later to talk to a teacher, maybe study some. The guy hangs out on the stair case, waiting. Maybe he was waiting for her. Perhaps he just didn't want to go home because he's beat by his mother or father when he walks in the door, because he went to school rather than run the family drug business. Either way he feels out of control. He might've tried touching someone who didn't want to be touched the week before. The month before. Liked the way the power felt when he was the assaulter, instead of the assaulted. The control felt so good, having control over something in his life, even if it was this one very wrong thing. This time, he decided, he would go all the way. He would rape the next female he sees, just because he can.
What I know
Some of the above is simply speculation. The only details I know for sure about the rape at my school was that it was after hours, in the far stairwell, and two 14 year old freshman. One guy, one girl. The girl fought him off for 25 minutes before being overpowered. It was all caught on cameras, several out of the 50+. There was no one monitoring them, like they should've been. And that when I found out today, I tried asking the people I knew at the school who still went there. When I asked who it was, one guy said, "Oh just some freshman." Another said, "It's Lincoln, what'd you expect". They don't care.
The guy is facing a life sentence in prison. There's no rehab for him, no mention of therapy in prison, no form of support. He's 14 years old. My younger brother is 15 years old.
I have been molested, nearly raped and killed by someone I know. I wanted nothing more than for him to be locked up for the rest of his life or for him to die. I'm still working on forgiving him, forgiving myself so I can move on. I am by no means rationalizing his actions, but he's 14. Life in prison? Will he ever get the chance to live, or to repent? He's 14 years old.
She's 14. Scarred for the rest of her life, traumatized. She will never forget that, ever in her life. It will probably be stuck on rerun in her mind for weeks, months, years. Trust me I know, because I've been there. Imagine your parents watching you be raped. Or being a parent and watching your child being raped. After it happened. On a computer monitor. Or do her parents even care? Is she even switching schools? Does anyone care?
The system
The system is flawed. They are teens yes, barely teens. The girl needs a strong support system, not much is mentioned of her in the articles or in what I can find. The guy needs help, not a life sentence. He had 2 charges and a felony before this, and he's 14 years old. What kind of broken home is he growing up in? What drugs is he using? You can be sure there is more to it than a horny 14 year old. I agree wholeheartedly, he needs several years away. I'm sure some prison time would do him good. Rehab, therapy, counseling. He should be locked away for a long time, but they are making it forever.
What age were you when you first fell in love? When you made your first mistake? Do you think the guy should have a life sentence, or should he do some time, along with rehab, parole, therapies, counseling, and other things in order to rehabilitate and ensure he is safe among society?
Does anyone care? Or are we a cold and callous society?
This happened in a school. To young kids, freshman. What were you worried about when you were a freshman, when you were 14? Because even 5 years ago, I was terrified. On freshman Fridays, the first Friday of the year, we got the shit beat out of us if we looked like freshman. Dumped in garbage cans. I've seen it happen, year after year while I went to school there. There were shooting threats. Riots. Beatdowns. Drug trades. Had police search us in the middle of classes.This is the first rape in the school. Last month someone had 7 bones broken after being attacked by a brick by someone who graduated from there, on her way to school. She was beat a block from where I live. I can't even tell you how many students have died since I started there.
A girl was raped a week ago. A guy was raped a week ago. Yesterday, the day before that, and the day before that. Does anyone care about them? I mentioned one case. There are hundreds, thousands. There is a rape every 6.5 minutes in America, the free country. These victims are living in shackles of fear. Doesn't sound so great and free, does it?
What Girls & Guys Said
25 72I mostly agree with this- male rape victims are a thing & should not be treated like a joke.
I just see some problems within society that make some of your points invalid, as sad as it is.
Society is really messed up.
I don't think he should get life in prison, but ultimately it doesn't affect me and I don't care.
People care, the problem with the situation is we have people on the left using rape as a political tool. One minute it's outrage and marches and every absurd idea such as looking at a woman is somehow "rape". Then of course when it it necessary to bring in thousands of people from an actual rape culture and thy , not surprisingly commit thousands of rapes, these people fall silent as a stone. So, obviously the people who are the loudest about rape , care the least. With any luck , these "social justice" types will be marginalized and ridiculed into historical obscurity and genuine and serious people can address these kind of issues.
Thanks for sharing with us. Yes both Females and Males can get raped.
Very well written MyTake.
Thank you
You're Welcome :)
Yes, Rape is the worst thing that can happen to a teen. It does affect mental health brutally. I agree with every part of your take. But whom should we blame? The 15 year old boy? Was it really his fault that he grew up that way? Or the parents who never slapped him for wrong things?
Nobody actually cares except for the family of victim and criminal. People tend to forget unless it goes very extreme. At last they'll blame society for it. The same society they live in. But nobody is contributing towards its change
He's 14. Even younger. And I highly doubt it's his fault, yet he will pay. I disagree with a life sentence - who does that to a kid? Why are we not looking at his parents? Are they druggies? Does the kid need rehab or is he actually dangerous, more so than they let on? The're trying him as an adult.
In answer to who we should blame, I think there are multiple parties that should accept blame, the parents, the boy, perhaps even the hall monitors that were not watching the cameras when they should've been. I don't know the full details, because none of the students cared enough to remember them.
@MsMusic as you've mentioned in your take, teens now days aren't really teens. So why not to treat them like adults? I agree this isn't his fault and he needs rehab. Imprisoning for lifetime is worst decision.
I don't think I said they're older than they are, but that they are barely teens. As in, they're a year into teenagedom. Probably just going through puberty. I don't know the details, but it's being described as horrific and vicious. Either way, life imprisonment is the worst for someone that age. Who taught him the sexual assault and rape are okay?
how is it not his fault he's the one who decided to do it he's a kid yeah his upbringing has a massive effect so its not entirely his fault but he is still to blame ultimately he chose to do it without care or consideration of the girl
@troychapman I've never said it wasn't his fault. But his parents should also be looked at.
@MsMusic We learn many things on our own especially bad ones. Nobody taught him rape was OK but rape is all about dominance. When he first time harassed her, what he felt was power and abuse of power is in human nature itself , history is proof
Msmusic i agree
I agree, we do learn many things on our own. Power and abuse of power is handed down, generation by generation. Perhaps because of the misuse of power. Perhaps by the parents, perhaps by someone else close to the guy. There is more to it than the eye can see.
I do support making a society focused more on counseling those who are victims and those who are perpetrators. Life sentences with no chance of appeal make little sense to me, why not just do an execution then? We shouldn't have jails we should have rehab facilities. And life sentences are bs.
As for what you are teaching people? Teach them not to be self-centered and then teach them all the immediate consequences of their actions. Don't teach them that things are wrong because it is wrong teach them it is wrong because of all of these things it causes even in the moment of doing what ever it is that they are doing.
We should have jails WITH rehab centers. We just toss people away without a second thought. A life sentence for a 14 year old. It's just wrong. He should do time, yes. Not a life. Looking at the Michigan laws, he should be convicted of a 3rd degree rape charge, receive up to 15 years (I say full 15), and be placed on the sex offenders list.
Most Care Not everyone it seem some blame the victims for some reason.
When I was 13 I was abducted, tortured and raped. Yet most people don't even think that a guy can be raped.
I agree that male rape cases are definitely getting kess attention
Being hurt yourself doesn't give you an excuse to hurt someone else though. 14 is a kid, but they're not babies.
Oh look, another post about rape. *Yaaawwwnnn*
Ooh you just made my point. Go screw yourself.
In a perfect world: You get mugged and get the shit beat out of you requiring a lengthy rehabilitation. We say: "Oh look, another post about some dick getting what he deserves. *Yaaawwwnnn*"
Cry me a fucking river both of you. "We live in a society that should teach men not to rape women". What kind of sexist propaganda bullshit are you dumb females spreading. All this does is make men look down upon you even more. Stop dressing so provocatively, stop picking shitty men to hang around, stop putting yourselves in dangerous circumstances and stop being so fucking naïve. This whole post is such a long winded guilt-tripping rant. If you want men to take this shit seriously, and give a damn. How about including our statistics in the equation. Now both of you, kiss.
Oh and stop dating and breeding with Muslims, if you don't like being treated like property.
You're a disgusting excuse for a human being
Replace "Muslims" with "blacks" or "Mexicans" or "Japs" or whatever and it becomes obvious that you, my not-friend, are a racist
@gregtaylor Oh no there's someone on GAG who isn't politically correct! Islam basically says it's okay to treat women like objective property. Please do enter into an argument about that so I can school your ass old man.
You need to take a close look at your Holy Bible; it, too, "says it's okay to treat women like objective property". Just for starters: Ephesians 5:22-24: "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing." And this is in the New Testament. If we bring the Old Testament into it, it gets much worse. Here is a website landoverbaptist. net/showthread. php? p=731358 to a site run by Landover Baptist (add www. to address, I need more Xper to add link). They are much more honest than you; they actually admit that the Bible DOES NOT teach gender “equality,” or the idea that women should be equal to men. Or maybe it's not a matter of honesty, maybe it's just ignorance on your part? Bring on the schoolin', boy.
@gregtaylor Please take your bible and shove it where the sun doesn't shine lol.
A very intelligent response (not). You are the one who brought religion into this by talking about Muslims
@gregtaylor I pointed out Muslims in general, I didn't mention Christianity or the Bible. Both of you clowns are the ones living in fucking denial lmao. Islam literally teaches men that women are their property. If a woman takes issue with that, she is right to avoid men who follow that retarded religious doctrine. On top of that, most men in general who aren't massive beta cucks like @gregtaylor over here who are trying very hard to score points with the younger women on GAG. Already know everything I am saying. It's only the most stupid of women or those who secretly wish to be victims in order to get more attention, who actively seek out dangerous men and end up getting raped. I'm quite done with this conversation. The Asker is a sexist misandrist cunt and I reserve my empathy for women who include male victims in discussions of rape and rape statistics instead of blindly pointing the finger at us. Not 18 year old little shits who like the sound of their own voice. Bye.
Goodbye and good riddance. But I will still tear apart your last post, but at another time. Going to bed now.
I care but I just don't have time to waste watching the news these days so it I didn't see that it had happened.
Here we go... more 'rape culture'. Sure.
For the guys saying dumb shit over here i guy can be raped when he is drunk. but if a guy said that he got raped people will laugh at him and not take him serious that is why you dont hear anything from them
Exactly. If both parties are not capable of making sober decisions, then sex should not occur. Guys are raped, just like women are.
A guy does not have to be drunk. There are many other ways to rape a guy. If his attacker is stronger. If he is manipulated/black-mailed (the law defines this as rape, even if some people do not). And there seems to be an unfortunate belief that a man cannot be raped because he simply won't get hard if he's being raped. This belief ignores the fact that most men/boys who are raped (over 90% by most statistics) are raped by other men and are penetrated by their attacker. No hard on required to be a victim in these cases.
Men can be raped. Woman can be raped. It can happen when drunk, sober, high, asleep. I have seen or heard of every instance of that. There is more than one way to rape. It's horrible
How was the guy rape? It sounds in insensitive but I’m one of those guys that think guys wouldn’t complain.
This right here is why men don't complain that they're raped when they are. You can't blame your body for reacting to arousal but that doesn't mean you wanted it still. It's the same with girls. While being raped her nipples could get hard or some other form of arousal can happen but that never means that she wanted it.
That guy they put away was obviously a career criminal, that’s why he got life. That charge he got was the last of many. Why would a girl be messing with someone like that? But still haven’t answered my question... I didn’t read your make believe story. Just was curious about how was the guys was raped was it by another man? Or male students? I think that would be traumatizing for a guy.
It was a 14 year old guy raping a 14 year old girl. And it's a real story, really happened at the school I graduated from. Would you like the news briefing? Guys get raped too. I didn't want people to feel like I was being a feminist and focusing only on the female version, so that's why I mentioned guys.
' I'm sure some prison time would do him good.' -> Time in prison does nobody any good. If anything it'll make him a harder psycho than he already is. It doesn't rehabilitate or help. But some people do need to be kept away from society, so it can be a necessary evil.
Sounds like you're in a bad school / neighbourhood. Hope you can move to a more stable area / community when / if you get the opportunity.
To answer. Do people care? Yes and no.
A lot of people care but can do nothing about it. Caring and being helpless is the recipe for depression or just feeling shit overall. So many people just block the empathy out, and go on with life.
So yes they do care in principle, but they cannot afford to care.
Should he go to jail, he's only 14? Yes. I think he should be segregated from the rest of society, he isn't fit to live in it if he is going to harm others. Do I think prison is good or will help him? Absolutely not.
I honestly think a proper institution where his mental health is kept in check and he is simply put away until he is rehabilitated would be a better option, unfortunately, I don't think that's an available option. And prison certainly isn't that place.
Let's be honest, nobody cares for any male issues. Today's society is more busy finding what's left of "male white supremacists" and destroy it rather than worrying about severe male issues.
This question and post is gender basis. Women and girls do just as much rape of boys and women.
Both genders need to respect each other and self-space.
Fake news. 93.7% of perpetrators of male rape are men. Women are 3% of all rapists.
Two of the pictures are gender biased, but I meant for them to be directed towards general population, both male and female. If you actually read MyTake, I stated that both men and women can be victims, and never said that any one gender was more capable of rape than the other. However, @UsernameMadness, is correct. Males do take the cake when it comes to rapists. I am not saying that men are the only ones who rape, but I agree with the statement htat they are the majority. They can be victims as much as any female can though.
@MsMusic "but I meant for them to be directed towards general population, both male and female" Bullshit you did. If you had cared enough you would have taken the time to find a gender neutral picture to use. Instead you didn't give a fuck about us which is why none of us give a fuck about you.
Interesting. Yet I mentioned both male and females in my take. You'll also notice I don't have any pictures towards females, yet I do have one directed towards how males rapes are less observed. I really don't care what you think of me. I posted this take for me and the others who agree with me.
"I posted this take for me and the others who agree with me." Wow you even said it yourself, and that easily. You posted this for your own selfish narcissistic ego and for fellow people in the echo chamber, and don't care what anyone else thinks. What a disgrace.
@Cursewords So much anger, just like I used to have. Makes me wonder if you were abused, sexually or otherwise.
Actually no. Men perpetuate the crime of sexual assault overwhelmingly. They do it to boys and girls alike - we just don’t have a great idea of how many boys because they don’t speak up
A girl can go to the police to find and punish the offender but guy can't. He would not admit that he was raped to avoid shame of being fucked in the ass if he raped by a guy. And if it was a girl, they would not take it seriously. He's in the winning, is not he? Anyway, she will be judged not for rape, but for hooliganism. Go feminism! Right?
All that stuff about teaching men not to rape a socializing them out of it is mindbogglingly insulting and utterly retarded.
Well men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of sexual assault. To both men and women. So yeah that’s kinda the point
@JustAnotherGirlie Firstly, I don't accept that, it's debatable. Second, it wouldn't matter anyway because it's the base premise of "teaching not to rape" that I'm calling retarded. So your assertion doesn't have anything to do with mine.
I mean they are very related. But I’d like to know why you think socializing men not to rape is retarded? I think there’s a lot to be said here so I’m asking
@JustAnotherGirlie Because they don't need to be, no one thinks rape is good. Teaching not to rape doesn't serve preventing rape, it only serves to promote destructive collectivist mindsets by having men take personal responsibility for the crimes of others. To teach me not to rape is to presume my guilty mind from the outset. So not only is it ineffective and pointless, it's insulting. Would you subject yourself to this?
I think you don’t get how this would play out in real life. They would not separate boys and girls and tell the boys “don’t rape girls.” Teaching people about sexual assault is educating them how many people are affected, what consent means and the importance of speaking up. It would even include slut shaming or victim shaming. Education is not a presumption of guilt but a preventative measure for both genders
@JustAnotherGirlie "They would not separate boys and girls" They don't need to be separate to receive different messages. "Teaching people about sexual assault" We already have sex ed in primary and secondary school. Which also pads the *latent* disapproval of sexual assault in our society. Do you accept that you can go too far with this "education"? Interestingly a wrench is thrown in the works when women complain about men not taking initiative, not being confident, asking if she's okay with this and that all the time, etc. "Education is not a presumption of guilt" When it's framed as though raping is something males do almost by default, it coming *really* fkn close. "slut shaming or victim shaming" Just a couple of a few terms in here that are heavily loaded; people interpret different things but use the same words to name those things. I would be incredibly careful about feminist indoctrination with such education.
Well part of my problem with this argument is your belief that the point is that men are inherently violent or aggressive. That’s not true and any feminist worth their weight will tell you that. Masculinity is a largely socialized concept so it would stand to reason that all the negatives or bad attributes that come with gender roles can be combated with education. Don’t spin this into a “men are all evil” tirade because that’s not the case. Rape culture is a FEW men who get away with repetitive harassment and assault while the majority of men do nothing or victim shame. Men are not born with negative thoughts of women or sexuality - it’s taught. And you can unteach. That’s the entire point
@JustAnotherGirlie "men are inherently violent or aggressive" I mean, it's kind of baked into "socializing men not to rape." As if it needed to be said, as if rape is a default setting they need to be conditioned out of -- even if you then they're taught into it and you're just teaching them out of it... no, none of that. It's actively harmful to inject that belief. "any feminist worth their weight" Either delineate from the bad ones or accept that you're lumped together. If there are good ones that share the same label then there's no way to tell them apart except for the expression of their ideas and if that's how you're going to go about it then the label is pointless if not confusing. I use a working definition for the time being -- until feminism elects a pope to lay out distinctions. Anyone who believes in the core feminist theories such as patriarchy theory and rape culture are the "real" one's.
@JustAnotherGirlie "Masculinity is a largely socialized concept" It's rooted in a biological component and then socialisation occurs in conjunction with that, but even the socialisation part isn't so easily manipulated. Our social constructs are in a sense as natural and organic as our biology. Like biology, it's malleable, but you can't just control society with it. "it would stand to reason that all the negatives or bad attributes that come with gender roles can be combated with education" I know you think that but no. A very common mistake among social constructivists is that because it appears to be built by people it must be able to be controlled and rebuilt to purpose -- basically it's social constructivism with authoritarian leanings. This is social engineering and not only is it not as effective as you would like but we have to ask at what point it becomes unethical to even try it.
@JustAnotherGirlie "Rape culture" It's not even that. Those few men (totally not hating on men though, right?) are *not* accepted by society, we don't live in a rape culture and the notion that we do is a joke. "while the majority of men do nothing or victim shame." (though we're still not shitting on men apparently) Victim shaming is not really a thing, certainly not a part of our culture -- still a joke. "it’s taught. And you can unteach. That’s the entire point" It's not even taught... That's *my* point. So you're 'unteaching' them out of a healthy worldview more often than not. What I can't say for sure would happen but what I expect to happen -- and please tell me if this is something you would opt for -- is that all of this re-education would be couched within theories and concepts approved of by the feminist magisterium.
What do you mean it hasn’t been taught? You’re denying decades of media influence + cultural history. Even within the context of this country, women had no agency. If you read writing from the 17th century, they make it EXPLICITLY clear what role women were to play in society. You can read multiple people (start with Eldridge Cleaver if you want some nuance) talk about the power of raping women in their own life story. It IS taught, sexism is subconsciously taught even today. You won’t find men in politics saying women have no place outside the kitchen (well maybe in Alabama or something) but the feelings of male superiority still exist today. And it’s foolish to believe (an uninformed opinion mind you) that it doesn’t carry over into sexual attitudes towards women. Nothing about the current worldview towards women is healthy or productive. So yes, men (and women btw) are complicit in perpetuating misogyny.